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#5743 From: SIUHIN@...
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 3:03 am
Subject: Updates on Boycott Assi Friday Picket
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Updates on Boycott Assi Friday Picket
August 31, 2004

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Hi everyone, 

Because of the Labor Day weekend, the Boycott Assi picket for September has been moved to Friday, September 10, 2004, 6 – 7:30 pm at Assi Supermarket (3525 W 8th St).

For questions or more information, please call Cindy:  213.738.9050.

Cindy Cho
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3465 W 8th St
Los Angeles, CA  90005
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#5744 From: "Ed Pearl" <EPearl@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 1:12 pm
Subject: Fw: Re: Masa Opens Today!
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Ed,
Thanks for asking!

Our address is 1800 West Sunset (corner of Lemoyne and Sunset across the
street from Par Paint). Telephone is 213.989.1558.

Please stop by and say hello!

Best,
Rhonda


On 8/31/04 3:49 PM, "Ed Pearl" <EPearl@...> wrote:

What's the address (and Phone #)?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "r2r2dogs3" <janesays11@...>
> To: <EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:24 PM
> Subject: [EchoElysianNCForum] Re: Masa Opens Today!
>
>
> Hi Suzanne and thanks to Andrew & Helen for the support!
>
> We opened our doors on Saturday but didn't really publicize it as we
wanted
> to have a few days to start small and work out any operational kinks we
may
> have...
>
> Right now, the bakery is open at 7am for coffees, pastries, breads, etc.
Our
> lunch menu on the cafe side starts at 11:30 am until 5pm.  This coming
week
> (not sure which day but will let you know) we will start serving a full
> breakfast
> menu as well, beginning at 7am.
>
> In the coming weeks we will be expanding the menu to include dinner
entrees
> and will then stay open until 10pm.  Our hours will ultimately be
everyday,
> 7am to Midnight for you night owls who like to eat late.  We will be
posting
> the
> hours on the window and here on the group site to let everyone know as the
> menu and hours expand.
>
> Thanks so much to everyone who has come by and said hello and especially
> those of you (Matthew! Jesus!)  who have come in both days we have been
> open!   We are thrilled to have such wonderful support from the community
> and are looking forward to meeting all our neighbors in person.
>
> Best,
> Rhonda & Rob
>
> -- In EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com, markybarsh@a... wrote>
> what are the hours--are they opened for breakfast????? let me know  thanks
>>
>> suzanne
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#5745 From: "cliffdweller213" <jclyatt@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 4:03 pm
Subject: Untaped Echo Park patential
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I'm just forwarding this from another site that doesn't get the
attention that this one does. I don't agree or disagree, but I think
it interesting.

-john


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From: "paul_is_on_the_metro"
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:54 pm
Subject: Untaped Echo Park patential
Hey I'm an infrequent poster that lives in Echo Park off of Scott,
and I would like to talk about what I think is untapped Echo Park
potential.

I believe that we are blessed to live in a part of the city that has
managed to hold off the ill effects of car culture to some extent and
maintain its walk ability. I would like to hear from people how we
could maximize this boon for us and make Echo Park a shining example
of what out city should follow in making LA into a more
pedestrian/community friendly environment.

One thing I think we should push for is change in zoning allowing
more mixed-use development to occur, which would improve the walk
ability of our district. We should also improve the quality of our
sidewalks, and widen or install them were need.

Now I know some people are scared by the thought of allowing mixed
use building or high-density in general, because they believe it will
degrade their quality of life. I say this to those people. We all
talk about how great NYC is and other places like San Francisco is
and how they have this sense of community. One reason these places
are so great is that they have this type of zoning I would like to
see adopted in Echo Park. Now I'm not pushing for huge skyscraper
type mixed use buildings, but the building of appropriate sized mixed-
use building that would fit and add even more character to our
community.

I believe we should build this type of structures with housing or
office space on top and retail on the bottom. This type of building
would allow more people the option to experience a more urban type of
living and the benefits that it brings with it. These benefits are
access to store closer to their homes that sit up against the
sidewalk, which in itself promotes a more pedestrian environment and
reduces traffic.

I could see it now, Echo Park residents walking to the local
Starbucks or independent cafe for their morning mochas that might be
owned by the person living in the housing about this cafe. Dinning at
night outside on the patio that sits along the sidewalk watching the
pedestrian traffic that has been generated by these new developments.

Well there is my ideal vision. Tell me your thoughts, and lets start
a discussion on the subject.

Paul

#5746 From: noelgr@...
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Untaped Echo Park patential
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Just a suggestion to Paul and any others out there that are interested in how Echo Park is handling it's development - and have ideas they'd like to propose.  Go to the Echo Park Planning and Land Use Meetings!  There is one tonight at 7PM, Logan Street Elementary Auditorium!  These meetings are open to anyone in the community.   Suzi Rogers

#5747 From: markybarsh@...
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Masa Opens Today!
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I ate there yesterday --- it was really good.

suzanne

#5748 From: "pbspeedo" <pbspeedo@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 7:47 pm
Subject: RE: Untaped Echo Park patential
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" We all
talk about how great NYC is and other places like San Francisco..."
 
Oh no we don't!
-----Original Message-----
From: cliffdweller213 [mailto:jclyatt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:04 AM
To: EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [EchoElysianNCForum] Untaped Echo Park patential

I'm just forwarding this from another site that doesn't get the
attention that this one does. I don't agree or disagree, but I think
it interesting.

-john


*******************************

From: "paul_is_on_the_metro"
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:54 pm
Subject: Untaped Echo Park patential
Hey I'm an infrequent poster that lives in Echo Park off of Scott,
and I would like to talk about what I think is untapped Echo Park
potential.

I believe that we are blessed to live in a part of the city that has
managed to hold off the ill effects of car culture to some extent and
maintain its walk ability. I would like to hear from people how we
could maximize this boon for us and make Echo Park a shining example
of what out city should follow in making LA into a more
pedestrian/community friendly environment.

One thing I think we should push for is change in zoning allowing
more mixed-use development to occur, which would improve the walk
ability of our district. We should also improve the quality of our
sidewalks, and widen or install them were need.

Now I know some people are scared by the thought of allowing mixed
use building or high-density in general, because they believe it will
degrade their quality of life. I say this to those people. We all
talk about how great NYC is and other places like San Francisco is
and how they have this sense of community. One reason these places
are so great is that they have this type of zoning I would like to
see adopted in Echo Park. Now I'm not pushing for huge skyscraper
type mixed use buildings, but the building of appropriate sized mixed-
use building that would fit and add even more character to our
community.

I believe we should build this type of structures with housing or
office space on top and retail on the bottom. This type of building
would allow more people the option to experience a more urban type of
living and the benefits that it brings with it. These benefits are
access to store closer to their homes that sit up against the
sidewalk, which in itself promotes a more pedestrian environment and
reduces traffic.

I could see it now, Echo Park residents walking to the local
Starbucks or independent cafe for their morning mochas that might be
owned by the person living in the housing about this cafe. Dinning at
night outside on the patio that sits along the sidewalk watching the
pedestrian traffic that has been generated by these new developments.

Well there is my ideal vision. Tell me your thoughts, and lets start
a discussion on the subject.

Paul



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#5749 From: "pbspeedo" <pbspeedo@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 7:48 pm
Subject: RE: Untaped Echo Park patential
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I'm curious why someone would choose to live here and then want to change it entirely.
-----Original Message-----
From: cliffdweller213 [mailto:jclyatt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:04 AM
To: EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [EchoElysianNCForum] Untaped Echo Park patential

I'm just forwarding this from another site that doesn't get the
attention that this one does. I don't agree or disagree, but I think
it interesting.

-john


*******************************

From: "paul_is_on_the_metro"
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:54 pm
Subject: Untaped Echo Park patential
Hey I'm an infrequent poster that lives in Echo Park off of Scott,
and I would like to talk about what I think is untapped Echo Park
potential.

I believe that we are blessed to live in a part of the city that has
managed to hold off the ill effects of car culture to some extent and
maintain its walk ability. I would like to hear from people how we
could maximize this boon for us and make Echo Park a shining example
of what out city should follow in making LA into a more
pedestrian/community friendly environment.

One thing I think we should push for is change in zoning allowing
more mixed-use development to occur, which would improve the walk
ability of our district. We should also improve the quality of our
sidewalks, and widen or install them were need.

Now I know some people are scared by the thought of allowing mixed
use building or high-density in general, because they believe it will
degrade their quality of life. I say this to those people. We all
talk about how great NYC is and other places like San Francisco is
and how they have this sense of community. One reason these places
are so great is that they have this type of zoning I would like to
see adopted in Echo Park. Now I'm not pushing for huge skyscraper
type mixed use buildings, but the building of appropriate sized mixed-
use building that would fit and add even more character to our
community.

I believe we should build this type of structures with housing or
office space on top and retail on the bottom. This type of building
would allow more people the option to experience a more urban type of
living and the benefits that it brings with it. These benefits are
access to store closer to their homes that sit up against the
sidewalk, which in itself promotes a more pedestrian environment and
reduces traffic.

I could see it now, Echo Park residents walking to the local
Starbucks or independent cafe for their morning mochas that might be
owned by the person living in the housing about this cafe. Dinning at
night outside on the patio that sits along the sidewalk watching the
pedestrian traffic that has been generated by these new developments.

Well there is my ideal vision. Tell me your thoughts, and lets start
a discussion on the subject.

Paul



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#5750 From: "Judith Beatrice" <echoparkcac@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: Workable Ideas to Help Unclog Our Roads
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Anyone who has lived in Echo Park for a while, and those of you who have attended meetings of the Echo Park Community Action Committee, know that the chance of connecting the Glendale Freeway to the Hollywood Freeway is a non-starter (of course, I can't predict what will happen 50 years from now).  The writer of that article, or the person he quoted, simply has not kept up to date.
 
As for a tunnel under Glendale Boulevard, this idea has been discussed in the past, most recently during the period 1996-99, when the Glendale Corridor Community Advisory Committee considered dozens of ideas that were proposed to change/improve traffic flow on the boulevard and also improve the boulevard.  Cost alone would prevent serious reconsideration, but you have to admit it is an intriguing idea.  Imagine traffic from the Freeway on/off ramps running underground to say, Montana Street, and leaving the surface streets to us to redevelop for local use.  As I say, this is not likely to even happen.
 
Judy Raskin
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:29 AM
Subject: [EchoElysianNCForum] 7 Ways in Search of a Will; Workable Ideas to Help Unclog Our Roads

I don't know if anyone saw this in last Sunday's LA Times Magazine.
I've pulled out the offending paragraph from the end of the article.

<snip>
Transportation analysts have suggested deep-bore tunnels or elevated
lanes that could be financed by charging tolls, but
environmentalists and homeowner groups opposing freeway expansion
programs argue that the answer isn't to build a way out of
congestion. Still, experts such as retired Caltrans Deputy District
Director Chuck O'Connell say that several key upgrades could go a
long way. For example, O'Connell proposes that the state extend the
Glendale Freeway in Echo Park to connect with the Hollywood Freeway.
Also, he suggests connecting the Antelope Valley Freeway from
Palmdale to the Glendale Freeway in La Canada Flintridge with a
tunnel that cuts under the Angeles National Forest. And extending
the Ronald Reagan Freeway from where it ends in Moorpark all the way
to the city of Ventura.

The entire article:

Port plan -- The ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach said Monday
that shippers will be charged higher fees to truck freight from the
ports during peak commute hours. The purpose is to ease traffic
congestion by encouraging shippers to haul cargo at night and on
weekends. That idea is among seven possible solutions to Southern
California traffic woes outlined in today's Los Angeles Times
Magazine. The magazine went to press before Monday's announcement
and thus does not say that the port plan was approved.

Transportation officials have tested an idea on an eight-mile
stretch of highway north of San Diego that they believe could
greatly ease Southern California's notorious gridlock. There's just
one flaw: Any politician who backs the idea could be labeled an
elitist and accused of discriminating against the poor.
On this section of Interstate 15, the carpool lanes have been
converted to High Occupancy/Toll, or HOT, lanes. Solo drivers can
pay a toll that varies from 50 cents to $4 to cruise the underused
carpool lanes, while carpoolers continue to use the lanes for free.
This promising and proven concept, however, probably will remain a
limited experiment in Southern California because critics have
labeled the HOT lanes "Lexus Lanes" and predicted that they would
create a two-tier class system for drivers. What politician wants to
take the lead and risk a reputation as the Marie Antoinette of the
freeways? While the timid wring their hands, Southern California
continues its long run as having the most congested freeway system
in the nation. Transportation experts and urban planners say
innovative ideas could help thaw the region's freeway permafrost,
but they lament the lack of will among officials who are reluctant
to pay a political price for progress.

The result is safe and time-tested solutions such as carpool lanes
and commuter buses that promise only marginal relief and are less
likely to rile homeowners groups and business leaders. In 2000, the
last year for which statistics were compiled, traffic in Southern
California was responsible for 1.45 million hours of delay to
motorists per day. That translated to $13.8 billion in lost
productivity annually, according to the Southern California Assn. of
Governments.

Is traffic simply the price of living in sunny Southern California,
just as inclement weather is the price of living in Seattle? Is the
problem simply too big to solve?

"Everybody is looking for the silver bullet answer," says former
Assemblyman Richard Katz, who chaired the Assembly Transportation
Committee for 10 years. "Since that doesn't exist, those smaller
incremental ideas don't get done."

Maybe it's time to ask: "Why not?"

What follows are seven small-scale traffic-busting ideas that think-
tank analysts, academics and transportation experts believe could
help solve the problem, but that remain on the drawing board because
of overly cautious transportation policymakers.
*
Squeeze the Herd
Require motorists who travel on heavily congested roads to pay a
toll that increases during peak commuting periods.
The idea, known as "congestion charging," has succeeded in other
parts of the country and in Europe. The tolls create an economic
incentive to shift car trips to off-peak hours, ride mass transit or
organize carpools. The HOT lanes concept operates under the same
philosophy because tolls increase as the lanes get more congested.
With the use of electronic transponders mounted on a vehicle's
windshield, tolls can be electronically paid from a bank account or
with a credit card, eliminating the need to stop traffic or staff
toll booths.

When London Mayor Ken Livingstone imposed congestion pricing last
year on motorists who entered the central section of the city,
critics predicted his political career would die along with his
traffic-easing idea. But the toll concept worked, cutting traffic
congestion by 30% and raising much-needed funds for public transit.
Livingstone was reelected in June and is considering expanding the
tolls to other sections of the English capital.
So far, no leading political figure in Southern California has
promoted the widespread use of congestion-charging tolls. Says
Robert Poole, a supporter of the concept and director of
transportation studies at the Reason Foundation, a public policy
research organization in Los Angeles: "These things almost never
succeed without a champion."
Volunteers?
*
Better Clock Management
Operate the terminals at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach 24
hours a day, allowing trucks to haul cargo after peak commuting
hours.

More than 12 million containers come in and out of the two ports
each year, generating about 35,000 truck trips per day. That number
is expected to more than triple in the next two decades. Most of the
terminals operate from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., dumping a stream of 18-
wheelers onto the region's freeways at the height of rush hour.
Several local lawmakers have advocated shifting the ports to a 24-
hour schedule, but they've been unable to persuade terminal
operators and retailers to go along. Truck drivers and longshoremen
support the concept because it could lead to more work and higher
salaries. "A lot of truck drivers would be willing to work at
night," says driver Carlos Ayala, preparing to haul a load from the
Port of Los Angeles to a warehouse in Perris. "I think it would be a
lot better because it would cut down on the time we spend on the
road and in the terminal."

But small retailers don't want to pay for the extra staff needed to
receive shipments at night, and terminal operators worry that
nighttime operation won't generate enough business to justify adding
a second shift of longshoremen, who earn higher wages after 5 p.m.
*
Organic Traffic Planning
Give regional transportation agencies more authority over local
projects.
Local traffic problems sometimes require regional solutions. But too
often transportation projects are built with only local roads or
transit passengers in mind, resulting in a fragmented system. The
city of Los Angeles' Automated Traffic Surveillance and Control
System, for example, is a sophisticated computerized network that
monitors road conditions with cameras and pavement sensors.
Engineers watch monitors in a control center and adjust signals to
improve traffic flow on city streets.
The system's biggest weakness is that it cannot communicate with the
two dozen or so traffic control systems operated by Los Angeles
County or other cities such as Long Beach, Burbank or Pasadena. A
motorist traveling through the city of Los Angeles along La Brea
Avenue could hit a series of green traffic lights thanks to the
control system. But when the driver reaches unincorporated L.A.
County near Baldwin Hills, a new traffic monitoring system not in
tune with the city system takes over.
A regional transportation agency could eliminate such conflicts.
Strides have been made toward sharing information, but local
managers are leery of giving up authority. Says Verej Janoyan, an
L.A. city transportation engineer: "All agencies like to maintain
their autonomy."
*
Get the Extended Warranty
To save money on freeway construction, require contractors to
provide a warranty for all major freeway work.
A warranty increases the initial cost of freeway construction but
saves money in the long run by shifting future maintenance work to
the private construction firm that built it.
The New Mexico transportation department was the first in the nation
to try the concept in 2001. The agency required a 20-year warranty
on a 118-mile freeway-widening project on U.S. Highway 550, a
primary trade and tourist route for northwestern New Mexico. State
officials predict the warranty will save New Mexico $89 million in
maintenance costs. Transportation officials in California are taking
a wait-and-see approach, saying they worry that the extra cost of a
warranty won't pay off with big savings in the end.
*
Pay for Not Parking
Offer commuters cash to give up their parking space at work.
A little-known state law requires business owners who lease spaces
and do not charge their employees for parking to offer the workers
cash in lieu of the space. The workers can pocket the cash and join
a carpool or use it to buy bus or light-rail passes. The cash payout
ranges from $35 to $165 per month. The intent of the law, AB 2109,
is to give workers a cash incentive to turn away from solo driving
on the freeways.
The law applies to companies with 50 or more employees. The state is
home to about 50,000 such companies, but most of those firms cannot
participate in the program because they own their own parking
spaces. The state assigned the Air Resources Board to monitor and
publicize the law, but then provided no funding to do so. Still, the
program reduced solo driving 17% and increased carpooling by 64%
among a focus group of eight businesses that implemented it. Urban
planners say the program could greatly reduce traffic in areas such
as downtown Los Angeles, where scores of large corporations lease
parking spaces for their employees.
As a result, the state's nonpartisan legislative analyst has
recommended dramatically expanding the law to all businesses and to
widely promote the cash-out program. As yet, no lawmaker has
introduced legislation to do that. Richard Katz, the former state
assemblyman who wrote the original 1992 law, says the program is a
victim of legislative complacency. "Everything in government today
is reactionary. If it's not the crisis du jour, no one is looking at
it."
*
Pick Your Spots
Complete crucial gaps in the freeway system and upgrade the region's
worst bottlenecks.
In the 1970s, construction of Southern California's freeway system
faltered because of an economic downturn, new environmental
protection laws and neighborhood activists. As a result, only about
61% of the freeway system envisioned by planners to serve the
population by 1985 was built.
That explains why some freeways literally end a few miles short of
connecting to another freeway, the prime example being the 6.2-mile
gap in the Long Beach Freeway between Alhambra and Pasadena. Closing
that gap could eliminate up to 6 million hours of traffic delays for
motorists throughout the region and reduce vehicle emissions by half
a ton annually. Freeway designers say about a half dozen more gaps
and bottlenecks are to blame for making the freeway system as
dysfunctional as a car with flat tires. 
Transportation analysts have suggested deep-bore tunnels or elevated
lanes that could be financed by charging tolls, but
environmentalists and homeowner groups opposing freeway expansion
programs argue that the answer isn't to build a way out of
congestion. Still, experts such as retired Caltrans Deputy District
Director Chuck O'Connell say that several key upgrades could go a
long way. For example, O'Connell proposes that the state extend the
Glendale Freeway in Echo Park to connect with the Hollywood Freeway.
Also, he suggests connecting the Antelope Valley Freeway from
Palmdale to the Glendale Freeway in La Canada Flintridge with a
tunnel that cuts under the Angeles National Forest. And extending
the Ronald Reagan Freeway from where it ends in Moorpark all the way
to the city of Ventura.
"It would provide a substantial reduction in the hours you
experience in congestion," O'Connell says.
When prioritizing such projects, policymakers balance the potential
traffic improvements for an entire region with the likely impact on
homeowners in the path of the new roads. Dan Beal, managing director
of public policy for the Automobile Club of Southern California,
says "the balance is tilted toward protecting the neighborhoods."
Some advocates of expanding the overburdened freeway system say
there would be more political support if public agencies got
feedback from motorists who would most benefit.
"One of the main problems in the discussion of transportation issues
today is that so much attention is given to the consequences of
building new projects, while so little attention is given to the
consequences of not building needed projects," says Mike Pratt, a
senior advisor to Friends of Southern California's Highways, a
coalition of groups that supports upgrading the freeway system.
Wouldn't politicians be more likely to get behind a freeway
expansion project if they could point to a group of frustrated
motorists whose lives would be greatly improved by an extra few
miles of pavement?
*
Protect the Cookie Jar
Prohibit lawmakers from raiding state gas tax revenues that are
dedicated to maintaining and improving the transportation system.
In March 2002, voters overwhelmingly supported a measure to protect
gasoline tax revenues by requiring a two-thirds vote of the
Legislature and an emergency proclamation from the governor before
the state can divert gas taxes from transportation spending.
During the first year the measure was in place, the Legislature
amassed the two-thirds majority and the governor declared the
emergency, allowing the state to siphon $856 million from the gas
tax fund. Over the last four years, the Legislature has taken a
total of $2.2 billion in transportation funding. The repeated
tapping of the fund to bail out the state budget has created a
backlog of $587 million in pavement maintenance work. California has
the fourth-highest gas taxes in the nation, but at the same time the
state ranks 48th when it comes to road conditions.
Transportation experts say the declining conditions of the state's
roads cost taxpayers billions of dollars in lost time, wasted
gasoline and expensive vehicle repairs. Lawmakers who dared propose
legislation to make it harder to divert the gas taxes say their
efforts have been thwarted by those who have benefited from the
raids on the transportation cookie jar.





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#5751 From: Judith Hansen <judith@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 10:24 pm
Subject: Untaped Echo Park potential
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Since when does having dreams for a place translate into wanting to change a
place "entirely?"

We all have our dreams...and some might be "no change" which is just as much a
"dream" because the definition of L.A. culture has always been CHANGE.
How we change is the question. And personally I like to read about people's
diverse visions. It's always been part of E.P., like a child care center or a
new library or cleaner streets or a vendor's area or mixed use bldgs or
sidewalk seating. Whatever.

I was born in E.P. in 1941 and this was a white, working class neighborhood
with a lot of Russians (hence the church), the end remains of a Jewish
community on Temple (Brooklyn Bagel), and "Amy's Temple" (now Four Square)
still attracting attention. And, E.P. Lake was lush with trees and bushes
around its edge. There were no street vendors or Asian markets or Starbucks at
a Lucys, etc. But we changed. And we will change again. And again.

I like dreams shared. Then those who agree can connect. But Suzi is right that
  there is a method for getting good ideas enacted using our Neighborhood
Council or Council people or whatever.

Thank goodness we have new folks coming in who bring energy, commitment and new
ideas to the area. We can always say "no."

#5752 From: "Ed Pearl" <EPearl@...>
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Masa Opens Today!
EPearl@...
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I ate there today, when it was really open and good and friendly and reasonable.  Nice crowd too.
Ed
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I ate there yesterday --- it was really good.

suzanne


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#5753 From: mobla1@...
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 8:43 pm
Subject: Speaking of Par Paint
mobla1us
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Did you see it listed in a Home Magazine (LA Times) article on paint? Yes.
They have some really good paint colors there--ask about the very expensive
stuff. You can't get these colors anywhere else. Pay no attention to the colors
on
the color chips--they're misleading.

--Michael O'Brien

#5754 From: mobla1@...
Date: Wed Sep 1, 2004 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: Untaped Echo Park patential
mobla1us
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Surprise! You can already build mixed use anywhere in Echo Park zoned
commercial. As anywhere else in L.A. Why is it not built??--well, the lenders
freak
out over that strange animal. Also, developers do not comprehend--they either
specialize in residential or in commercial, and the combination makes the
synapses fry. Also, we have grossly more strip commercial zoning in L.A. than we
could ever use. Also, commercial propety "values" are so high that they make
mixed use hard to pencil out. We'd get more mixed use built if there was just
the
will........

--Michael O'Brien

#5755 From: "atbnjv" <atbnjv@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 9:34 am
Subject: Vons
atbnjv
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Has anyone been in the Vons lately?  I went once a couple years
ago and never returned, always shopping at Pioneer, but I went
today and it was much cleaner, with good produce and better
products all around.  Is this a new development?  Maybe they
decided to fix it up when they found out the Pioneer was closing.

#5756 From: mobla1@...
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 9:07 am
Subject: Today's LA Times
mobla1us
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Calendar section--front page article on Echo Park.

--Michael O'Brien

#5757 From: "carlins_momma" <carlins_mom@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Vons
carlins_momma
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I've been shopping there for several years and it's been good for
about the last 3 years.
--- In EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com, "atbnjv" <atbnjv@y...>
wrote:
> Has anyone been in the Vons lately?  I went once a couple years
> ago and never returned, always shopping at Pioneer, but I went
> today and it was much cleaner, with good produce and better
> products all around.  Is this a new development?  Maybe they
> decided to fix it up when they found out the Pioneer was closing.

#5758 From: "pbspeedo" <pbspeedo@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 4:47 pm
Subject: RE: Vons
pbspeedo65
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Oh brother! From your lips!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: atbnjv [mailto:atbnjv@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 2:34 AM
To: EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [EchoElysianNCForum] Vons

Has anyone been in the Vons lately?  I went once a couple years
ago and never returned, always shopping at Pioneer, but I went
today and it was much cleaner, with good produce and better
products all around.  Is this a new development?  Maybe they
decided to fix it up when they found out the Pioneer was closing.



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#5759 From: "Jeni" <jeni_323@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 11:28 pm
Subject: Echo Park Library's Branch email is back! ... echopk@...
jeni_323
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Hello Echo Park People!!

Just wanted to announce that we will resume checking the Echo Park
Library branch email daily and respond as soon as time allows
(usually 48 hours). If you have a book you would like us to purchase,
ideas for the library, collection, or programming, or any other needs
or requests, you can email us at  echopk@...

We are sorry response to this email has lapsed for so long, and hope
to be more diligent in maintaining it! thanks again

Jeni Zambrano
Echo Park Library

#5760 From: "Jeni" <jeni_323@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: Echo Park Library's Branch email is back! ... echopk@...
jeni_323
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sorry, I guess the message board does not allow email addresses to be
seen. Just know that it after the @ symbol it is lapl.org

You can also email us through our www at
http://www.lapl.org/branches/08.html

thanks again
Jeni

> Hello Echo Park People!!
>
> Just wanted to announce that we will resume checking the Echo Park
> Library branch email daily and respond as soon as time allows
> (usually 48 hours). If you have a book you would like us to
purchase,
> ideas for the library, collection, or programming, or any other
needs
> or requests, you can email us at  echopk@l...
>
> We are sorry response to this email has lapsed for so long, and
hope
> to be more diligent in maintaining it! thanks again
>
> Jeni Zambrano
> Echo Park Library

#5761 From: SIUHIN@...
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2004 9:03 pm
Subject: KPFK LSB ELECTION NEWS
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LSB ELECTION NEWS
Date: September 2, 2004
 

The Pacifica Foundation is conducting its 2004 General Membership Election this summer and fall, and the nomination period opens July 25. We encourage active members of our community to run for positions on the Local Station Board.

In November, members of each Pacifica Foundation Station will elect 9 listener-members to the Local Station Board, and 3 staff-members to the Local Station Board. Once elected, Local Station Board Members will choose among themselves the members of the Pacifica National Board.

Members of the Local Station Board are responsible for all aspects of the governance of the radio station, from programming to budgets. The Local Station Board reviews the job performance of the General Manager and Program Director of the Radio Stations, and participates in the Hiring Process when these positions come open. Most importantly, the Local Station Board has the mandate to actively reach out to underrepresented communities to help the station serve a diversity of all races, creeds, colors and nations, classes, genders and sexual orientations, and ages. The local station board is directed also to help build collaborative relations with organizations working for similar purposes.

Local Station Board Members elected in November of this year will serve for three years, from January 1, 2005 through December 31, 2007.

To run for a position on the Local Station Board, you must be a member in good standing of the Pacifica Foundation by August 31, 2004. You can become a member either by donating $25 or more to the Foundation, or by volunteering three hours of your time to the Foundation.

If you are interested in running for Local Station Board, you will be able to pick up a Nomination Packet from your local Pacifica Radio Station on July 25, 2004, and for two months thereafter. The Nomination Packet informs you of what you need to do in order to qualify for the ballot. Please call (818) 985-2711 Ext 362 to get your packet. The nomination period for this election closes on September 25, 2004.

We especially encourage people of color, women, sexual minorities, members of the Disabled community, working class people, and people of diverse ages and occupations to run for Local Station Board.


#5762 From: ECHOPARKUNIONGUY@...
Date: Fri Sep 3, 2004 12:33 pm
Subject: Fwd: Celebrate Labor Day - Stand Up For Workers' Rights
epunionguy
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Stand Up for Workers' Rights: Protect the Freedom to Form a Union

Labor Day is the day we honor all that unions and working families have helped to win during the last 100 years: Overtime pay, the 40-hour work week and the weekend; Medicare and Social Security, workplace safety laws, child labor laws, the minimum wage, civil rights and much more. 

But now, the laws that protect workers who choose to form a union are failing. And collective bargaining has become more and more difficult because fewer Americans are covered by union contracts. 

We can't stand on the sidelines while workers are denied union representation, a contract, good benefits, and employment protections.

New bi-partisan legislation has been introduced in Congress to restore workers' freedom to form unions by ensuring that when a majority of workers decide to form a union, they can—making union protections and benefits available to more working families.

Honor Labor Day in a meaningful way this year.  Send a fax or call your Congressional delegation asking them to support this legislation.

Send a letter to the following decision maker(s):
Your Congressperson
Your Senators

Below is the sample letter:

Subject: Support H.R. 3619 and S.1925

Dear [decision maker name automatically inserted here],

I am asking you to get involved in the fight to protect the human right of every worker to freely form or join a union without harassment or intimidation from their employer. Please sign on as a co-sponsor of the bipartisan Employee Free Choice Act recently introduced in Congress (H.R. 3619 and S. 1925) by Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), and Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.).

As a co-sponsor of this legislation, you can help elevate the visibility of this real human rights issue. Employers routinely harass, coerce, intimidate--and even fire--workers to keep them from exercising their freedom to form a union. According to Cornell University research conducted by Kate Bronfenbrenner, one-quarter of private sector employers illegally fire at least one worker during a union organizing campaign.

This is unacceptable. I strongly urge you to join the campaign to end this human rights crisis. The current system for protecting these workers' rights is broken. This law, when enacted, would fix the broken processes through which workers form unions--making union protections and benefits more widely available to more working families.

This is one of the issues I will use to weigh your commitment to working families. I look forward to hearing that you have signed on as a co-sponsor of this important legislation.

Sincerely,

Will Jmavropouolos

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What's At Stake:
On paper, America's workers have the right to form unions, but the laws protecting that right are so broken that employers routinely block workers from exercising their own free will to form and join unions.

Some 45 million U.S. workers would form a union today if they had the chance, according to an independent, nationally respected polling firm. But employers routinely harass, coerce, intimidate--and even fire--workers to keep them from exercising their freedom to form a union.

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#5763 From: Mikekogan88@...
Date: Fri Sep 3, 2004 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 973
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In a message dated 9/3/04 11:13:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com writes:

Subject: Fwd: Celebrate Labor Day - Stand Up For Workers' Rights






i ate dinner last night at the new Compadres--on sunset at portia--in the formerly Nicolas restaurant.  excellent food.  live music.  new owners seem nice.

#5764 From: noelgr@...
Date: Fri Sep 3, 2004 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 973
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Just a note to All,
I drove by the K-Mart on San Fernando/Fletcher today and they have big signs saying the store is closing on the front - might have some good prices?  Had heard for years that it might close so now guess it's happening.
Suzi Rogers

#5765 From: Tony Scudellari <Tscud1@...>
Date: Fri Sep 3, 2004 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 973
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Dear Suzi:

The signs have been up for about two weeks.  It’s pretty well cleaned out.

Tony

On 03/09/2004 16:26, "noelgr@..." <noelgr@...> wrote:

Just a note to All,
I drove by the K-Mart on San Fernando/Fletcher today and they have big signs saying the store is closing on the front - might have some good prices?  Had heard for years that it might close so now guess it's happening.
Suzi Rogers

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#5766 From: "pbspeedo" <pbspeedo@...>
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 1:54 am
Subject: (No subject)
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Does anyone know when MASA will be open officially for dinner? And is it
possible to bring a bottle of wine?

#5767 From: Tony Scudellari <Tscud1@...>
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 4:52 am
Subject: Reminder: Operation Artistic Freedom is Sunday!
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Dear Folks:

First, a big THANK YOU to everyone who has RSVP'd thus far for "Operation
Artistic Freedom!" As of Friday night, over 200 RSVPs have come from people
throughout Southern California who will be attending.  And, you still have
time to join the hippest, most eclectic fundraiser in Southern California.

Again, here are the details:

     Operation Artistic Freedom
     A fundraiser by the Arts community Supporting
     The Kerry/Edwards ticket
     Sunday, 05 September
     5pm to 10pm
     Home of Jain & Eliot Sekuler
     Please park at the church lot at 4900 Cleland Avenue
     At the base of Mt. Washington
     A free shuttle van service will take you to the residence.

To RSVP or get more information:

     phone: 323 225-0501
     email: OpArtisticFreedom@...
     On the web: https://volunteer.johnkerry.com/event/view/?id=12637

It also looks like we will have some press coverage for this event,
including a New York-based publication!

Also, a brief update on some program additions:

     Some of the visual art featured will include works by Diane Behrens,
Salvador Dali, Seymour Kaplan, Leo Limon, Frank Romero as well as Plein Air
artists from Northeast Los Angeles.  There will also be autographed
memorabilia from Whoopi Goldberg, Laurence Fishburne, Joss Whedon and an
autographed script from "The West Wing."

     Entertainers for the evening include: Comedian Taylor Negron, Acclaimed
Singer/songwriter Tom Freund, Darlings of the Silverlake music scene
Fascinoma & The Evangenitals, The musical satire of San Francisco's "The
Poetry Of Donald Rumsfeld" and Echo Park Poet Steve Abee.

     Added to the entertainment schedule will be a little bit of Gospel and
some hip hop, so this will be an uplifting, eclectic and fun filled evening.

     On the food front, we would like to thank Cobblermania Founder Shae
Seward for donating some blueberry and peach cobblers for the dessert
portion of the evening (thank you Shae!).

We look forward to seeing you Sunday...and spread the word!  We hope you can
join political activists and arts and entertainment luminaries for this fun
event during this Labor Day weekend!

Sincerely,

Tony Scudellari o/b/o
Host Committee
"Operation Artistic Freedom"

#5768 From: Andrew Garsten <andrew.garsten@...>
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 5:13 am
Subject: New place for a great cup of Jo - Welcome Chango Coffee, Tea and Ice Cream
agarsten
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After what has seemed like an eternity, the latest great addition to the
neighborhood - Chango Coffee, Tea and Ice Cream has opened at the corner
of Echo Park and Delta (in the Del Mar Apartment building across from
Magic Gas).

Went in with the family today for great lattes, and ice creams for the
kids.  Another place hopping with excitement and anticipation.

To begin with week day hours will be from 5:30am till 8pm, with 8am
openings on the weekends.


Go in, introduce yourself, and relish that delicious expresso drink, now
walking distance for the first time for many EP residents.

andrew

#5769 From: markybarsh@...
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 10:23 am
Subject: Re:
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Dinner may not be for another 3 weeks.

On   Sunday or Monday they will be open for breakfast.  The hours will be from 7am to 5pm until they are opened for breakfast.

suzanne

#5770 From: markybarsh@...
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 10:26 am
Subject: Masa
markybarsh@...
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I meant to say there hours will be from 7am to 5 pm until they open for dinner.

#5771 From: markybarsh@...
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 10:33 am
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Masa will not open for dinner for another 3 weeks or so.  Breakfast will start on Sunday or Monday.  The hours will be from 7am to 5pm until dinner starts.

suzanne

#5772 From: yque4@...
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2004 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Vons
yque4@...
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In a message dated 9/2/2004 2:36:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, atbnjv@... writes:

Maybe they
decided to fix it up when they found out the Pioneer was closing.



what you didnt see the welcome Pioneer shoppers sign inside???..looks like they also installed another food frezer, someone in management must have been reading the complaints, it's about time!
Thank you for your time,
Luiza

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