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Merry Christmas.
Please excuse my being short,
  - TR

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Public Access Records Office <PARO@...>
Date: Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Needs of the Forensic Sciences:> Taser's ref removed from death certificates court order Fwd: Political Corruption Of Science Complaint: Court Orders Mention of Taser be removed from coroner report / Homeland Stupidity; Police to use taser with camer
To: Toxic Reverend <toxicreverend@...>


You mistakenly sent the email to the Public Access office -- which does nothing with it.  And I can't forward this kind of information; it must be submitted by you directly.  Suggest you send it to the Staff Officer of our current study titled: Identifying the Needs of the Forensic Sciences Community, Pin# STLP-Q-06-03-A.  Her name is Anne-Marie Mazza: AMazza@...
 
Public Access Records Office (PARO)
The National Academies
 
Email: PARO@...
 
 
 


From: Toxic Reverend [mailto:toxicreverend@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:02 AM
To: Public Access Records Office
Cc: Wende Gozan Ammesty Taser; Dalia Hashad Amnesty Taser; Dr Constantine Gatsonis Co-Chair FSCM Brown University; Margaret A Berger Brooklyn Law School FSCM; Dr M Bonner Denton FSCM University of Arizona; Best of my Knowledge Forensic Science; Best of my Knowledge Forensic Science; Science and Technology Committee Office; Dr Karen Kafadar FSCM Indiana University Bloomington Department of Statistics; Geoffrey Mearns FSCM Cleveland State University; Randall S Murch FSCM Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University; Channing R Robertson FSCM Stanford University; Robert C Shaler FSCM 911 DNA coroner Pennsylvania State University; Jay A Siegel PhD FSCM Forensic and Investigative Science; Sargur N Srihari FSCM State University New York Buffalo; Peter Marone FSCM Dir Tech Virginia Dept Forensic Science; Sonoma Greens; Justice is Homeless
Subject: Needs of the Forensic Sciences:> Taser's ref removed from death certificates court order Fwd: Political Corruption Of Science Complaint: Court Orders Mention of Taser be removed from coroner report / Homeland Stupidity; Police to use taser with camer

To:
The Committee Identifying the
Needs of the Forensic Sciences Community

For the National Academies of Sciences
http://www8.nationalacademies.org/cp/projectview.aspx?key=48741
Cc:
Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org/

From:
Tom Krohmer
Environmental Technologist
aka
The Toxic Reverend
www.myspace.com/toxicreverend

A judge had ordered a coroner to remove all reference of
taser and or electrical shock from both the death
certificates and medical examiner reports

   This string of e-mails gives the background.

This is all I have time for right now.  But I have been
on this for months as the string of e-mails show - TR

FYI:

Google search terms;

"forensic pathology taser"
Example from above search:

USA: Amnesty International Questions Taser Safety As Death Toll ...
Dec 16, 2008 ... (New York) - Industry claims that taser
stun guns are safe and ... that were independently reviewed
by a forensic pathologist -- found that ...
www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGUSA20081216001
- 41k -


Next Google search terms:

"taser removed death certificate" -
The search seems to bring up just the one case in
Ohio.  Regardless, I suspect that coroners
are probably under some "political influence",
besides this case of a judge ordering it.


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/157143-Medical-examiner-told-to-remove-references-to-Taser-as-contributing-to-the-deaths-of-three-local-men
_______________

....
Taser Inc. Gets Coroner's Report Censored.
 "Taser International believed from ... Ten Percent, 5 May, 2008 — RickB
http://tenpercent.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/taser-inc-gets-coroners-report-censored/- 57k
Note:>
In response to widespread allegations of abuse of its products, Taser International
Excerpt:

A Summit County Common Pleas judge ordered the county medical examiner

to delete any reference that Tasers contributed to the deaths of three Ohio men.

All three men were in an 'agitated' state and 'on drugs' when police officers shot

them with Tasers, and the judge ordered their deaths be ruled 'accidental' also

that any reference to "homicide or "electrical pulse stimulation" should be deleted

from death certificates and autopsy reports."



Five sheriff's deputies had been indicted on charges related to the death of one

of the men, who also had a history of mental illness. The judge further ordered

that man's death be ruled as "undetermined" and to "delete any references to

homicide and the death possibly being caused by asphyxia, beatings or other

factors."


The court hearing centered around the "very narrow issue" of whether or not

the use of the Taser Model X26 could contributed in any way to the cause of death.


A Taser International spokesman issued the following statement after the court

ruling: "Taser International believed from the beginning that these determinations

of cause of death must be supported by facts, medical research and scientific

evidence," spokesman Steve Tuttle said in a prepared statement Friday.



End of excerpt.

____________________________________---

Reference material:

Title of article from "Journal Sentinel"

Justice for Sale - 
By DAVID DOEGE, of the Journal Sentinel staff, Last Updated: Feb. 17, 2002
Poll says money, courts a troubling mix ... court,
and 26% of judges agree, according to the survey,
conducted for Justice at Stake, a national
non-partisan organization concerned with judicial
issues. ...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/feb02/21148.asp?source=tmj4


.......

Report titled:

Skeletons in the Courthouse:
Hazards to the Public Remain Secret.
April 2002 Coalition for Consumer Rights

PDF format report posted at
No More Red Collar Crime
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/redcollarcrime/courtsecrets.pdf


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Toxic Reverend <toxicreverend@...>
Date: Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Subject: Taser's Fwd: Political Corruption Of Science Complaint: Court Orders Mention of Taser be removed from coroner report / Homeland Stupidity; Police to use taser with camera
To: Toxic Reverend <toxicreverend@...>


As yet, no response on this topic ....
But good reference material in the fwd - TR

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Environmental Technologist <toxicreverend@...>
Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Subject: Political Corruption Of Science Complaint: Court Orders Mention of Taser be removed from coroner report / Homeland Stupidity; Police to use taser with camera
To: Michael Halpern Integrity Union Concerned Scientists <mhalpern@...>
Cc: Amnesty International USA <aimember@...>, Aiusa Law and Disorder Taser Recording <usa@...>, Law and Disorder Thoughts <brickforest@...>, Project Censored <censored@...>, Wrongful Death Tasers <mln@...>, California Clean Money Campaign <Info@...>, Campaign Money Trail Tracking <training@...>, KRON 4 News Tip <lundin@...>, KRON 4 News <4listens@...>, Amnesty International Washington Mid Atlantic DC office <aiusama@...>, Mesha Monge-Irizarry <Iolmisha@...>


To:
The The Union Of Concerned Scientists
Integrity In Science Program
Abuses Of Science
http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/abuses_of_science/

Cc:

Amnesty International,Wrongful Taser Deaths
http://www.amnestyusa.org/Domestic_Human_Rights/TASER_Abuse/page.do?id=1021202&n1=3&n2=850&n3=220
Cc:
Mrs. Mesha Monge-Irizarry
IDRISS STELLEY FOUNDATION
A police accountability Foundation San Francisco Bay area
created by mother from wrongful death law suit $ of police homicide of son

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo9ewi/idrissstelleyfoundation/

In response to widespread allegations of abuse
of its products,
Taser International got a court ruling forbidding coroners from mentioning taser's
as a cause of death.
Reference:
Judge orders all references to 'Taser' stricken from medical examiner's reports
Diane Sweet, The Story news
Published: Sunday May 4, 2008
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Judge_orders_all_references_to_Taser_0504.html
(reference also in the second linked in story).

A local San Francisco Bay area community is now using a
taser with a camera mounted on it..

I just caught a news story on KRON 4 TV news and Googled
the subject. But the KRON 4 news said that no deaths have been
shown to have been caused by taser's.  Of course they made no
mention of a court ruling forbidding coroners from mentioning taser's
as a cause of death (reference is the second linked in story). 
Lists are being compiled of other wrongful deaths by tasers that
have been "covered up".
2 Examples:

1:
From "Law and Disorder
http://lawanddisorder.org/2008/06/
Nearly 400 people in the United States have been killed in Taser-related
deaths in the past 7 years.
Medical examiners are afraid to rule Tasers as the primary or
contributory cause of death out of fear of retribution. In meetings
with coroners, Taser International has actually threatened to sue
if stun guns are cited on death certificates.

2:

Amnesty International Documents

http://www.amnestyusa.org/Domestic_Human_Rights/TASER_Abuse/page.do?id=1021202&n1=3&n2=850&n3=220

United Nations Documents



End of excerpt:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please note this article, as well;

Title
Sudden Deaths in Police Custody May Be Biological, Study Says
ABA Journal Sep 2, 2008, By Martha Neil
Quote; "Just why they died remains a mystery..."

http://www.abajournal.com/news/sudden_deaths_in_police_custody_may_be_biological_study_says/
A few interesting comments are posted at the article,
attempting to expose the possible / probable propaganda.

Additional (the real problem exposed ? )>

Roid a Cops - Police shootings, Brutality & Steroid Abuse - WaccoBB - Aug 28"
Big Guns: When Cops Use Steroids Steroid Abuse Can Contribute to Police brutality
and influence the use of "Deadly Force"...

By the The Toxic Reverend We as tax payers put out a lot of cash to train a policeman ...
http://waccobb.net/forums/showthread.php?p=63773
- 87k


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Taser International to offer camera add-on - Homeland Stupidity
In response to widespread allegations of abuse of its products
by police officers, Taser International announced that it would
offer a camera which attaches ...
Homeland Stupidity, By Michael Hampton
Posted: November 9, 2005 1:00 pm

www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/11/09/taser-international-to-offer-camera-add-on/

--
Excerpt:

In response to widespread allegations of abuse of its products

by police officers, Taser International announced that it would

offer a camera which attaches to its Taser electroshock guns.



The cameras, which will sell for $400, attach to the butt of the

guns, and provide a small black-and-white or infrared video image

which can be downloaded through a built-in USB port. The camera

provides one hour of recording time and is expected to be available

by March 2006.



Now, to help better examine how Tasers are used, manufacturer

Taser International Inc. has developed a Taser Cam, which company

executives hope will illuminate why Tasers are needed — and add

another layer of accountability for any officer who would abuse

the weapon.


End of excerpt.


______________________________________________

If that makes you "feel better", check this :>

Taser Inc. Gets Coroner's Report Censored.
 "Taser International believed from ... Ten Percent, 5 May, 2008 — RickB
http://tenpercent.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/taser-inc-gets-coroners-report-censored/- 57k
Note:>
In response to widespread allegations of abuse of its products, Taser International
Excerpt:

A Summit County Common Pleas judge ordered the county medical examiner

to delete any reference that Tasers contributed to the deaths of three Ohio men.

All three men were in an 'agitated' state and 'on drugs' when police officers shot

them with Tasers, and the judge ordered their deaths be ruled 'accidental' also

that any reference to "homicide or "electrical pulse stimulation" should be deleted

from death certificates and autopsy reports."



Five sheriff's deputies had been indicted on charges related to the death of one

of the men, who also had a history of mental illness. The judge further ordered

that man's death be ruled as "undetermined" and to "delete any references to

homicide and the death possibly being caused by asphyxia, beatings or other

factors."


The court hearing centered around the "very narrow issue" of whether or not

the use of the Taser Model X26 could contributed in any way to the cause of death.


A Taser International spokesman issued the following statement after the court

ruling: "Taser International believed from the beginning that these determinations

of cause of death must be supported by facts, medical research and scientific

evidence," spokesman Steve Tuttle said in a prepared statement Friday.



End of excerpt.


______________________________________________

Chinese hackers crack Homeland Security computers

Chinese hackers broke into Department of Homeland Security computers

and made off with "many megabytes" of data, and the contractor charged

with securing the department's networks attempted to cover up the breaches,

according to Congressional investigators who have asked the department's

inspector general to investigate the computer security breaches.

...
End of excerpt



...-- End Of Forwarded Message -----



Tom Krohmer
Environmental Technologist
http://toxicreverend.blogspot.com/
aka
The Toxic Reverend
http://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend
aka
Justice Is Homeless
http://www.myspace.com/justiceishomeless

Database lists illnesses with toxic chemicals
that can cause them is now linked in with a
review and comments at :>
http://people.tribe.net/toxicreverend

Homicide Charges For Corporations
(Rough draft posted with active reference links)
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/redcollarcrime

Peer Reviewed Medical Journal on Chronic
Illnesses, cancers and Stealth Infections
from Bio-weapons of the non-lethal variety
www.immed.org
Note:
The Gulf War Vets have posted
"Beyond Treason"
http://www.gulfwarvets.com

Toxic Revelations; Censored information on
biological weapons and the health care
industry The censored rough draft has
been reposted
http://www.puppstheories.com/ToxicRevelations/tr.html



--
...-- End Of Forwarded Message -----

Tom Krohmer
Environmental Technologist
http://toxicreverend.blogspot.com/
aka
The Toxic Reverend
http://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend
aka
Justice Is Homeless
http://www.myspace.com/justiceishomeless

Database lists illnesses with toxic chemicals
that can cause them is now linked in with a
review and comments at :>
http://people.tribe.net/toxicreverend

Homicide Charges For Corporations
(Rough draft posted with active reference links)
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/redcollarcrime

Peer Reviewed Medical Journal on Chronic
Illnesses, cancers and Stealth Infections
from Bio-weapons of the non-lethal variety
www.immed.org
Note:
The Gulf War Vets have posted
"Beyond Treason"
http://www.gulfwarvets.com

Toxic Revelations; Censored information on
biological weapons and the health care
industry The censored rough draft has
been reposted
http://www.puppstheories.com/ToxicRevelations/tr.html



--
...-- End Of Forwarded Message -----

Tom Krohmer
Environmental Technologist
http://toxicreverend.blogspot.com/
aka
The Toxic Reverend
http://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend
aka
Justice Is Homeless
http://www.myspace.com/justiceishomeless

Database lists illnesses with toxic chemicals
that can cause them is now linked in with a
review and comments at :>
http://people.tribe.net/toxicreverend

Homicide Charges For Corporations
(Rough draft posted with active reference links)
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/redcollarcrime

Peer Reviewed Medical Journal on Chronic
Illnesses, cancers and Stealth Infections
from Bio-weapons of the non-lethal variety
www.immed.org
Note:
The Gulf War Vets have posted
"Beyond Treason"
http://www.gulfwarvets.com

Toxic Revelations; Censored information on
biological weapons and the health care
industry The censored rough draft has
been reposted
http://www.puppstheories.com/ToxicRevelations/tr.html



--
...-- End Of Forwarded Message -----

Tom Krohmer
Environmental Technologist
http://toxicreverend.blogspot.com/
aka
The Toxic Reverend
http://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend
aka
Justice Is Homeless
http://www.myspace.com/justiceishomeless

Database lists illnesses with toxic chemicals
that can cause them is now linked in with a
review and comments at :>
http://people.tribe.net/toxicreverend

Homicide Charges For Corporations
(Rough draft posted with active reference links)
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/redcollarcrime

Peer Reviewed Medical Journal on Chronic
Illnesses, cancers and Stealth Infections
from Bio-weapons of the non-lethal variety
www.immed.org
Note:
The Gulf War Vets have posted
"Beyond Treason"
http://www.gulfwarvets.com

Toxic Revelations; Censored information on
biological weapons and the health care
industry The censored rough draft has
been reposted
http://www.puppstheories.com/ToxicRevelations/tr.html


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