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Subject: [SCA-Ramshaven] Demo this Saturday and Sunday - Kidspark



The Canton of Bryniau Tywynnog has a demo this Saturday and Sunday, as
part of the Kidspark Festival
http://www.kidspark.ca/

Dates: Saturday August 18th and Sunday August 19th
Times: 11:00 AM to 5:00 PM both days, set up at 10:30 sharp
Cost: Free
Refreshments provided, BYO lunch

Activites:
Fighting
Fencing
Kids Costume try-on and photo opportunity
Medieval Games
Arts and Sciences Display and demonstrations
( Or any other activities you might like to organize )

The demo is being held in Victoria park, at the end of Water Street, at
Courtland
Here's a map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=129+Water+St+S,+Kitchener,+ON,+\
Canada&sll=43.447817,-80.496118&sspn=0.00532,0.009913&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16&iwloc=add\
r&om=1
If you take Water Street until it branches at the bottom, take the Left
barnch, and then turn immediately Left into the small utility building
parking lot, we can unload there, and will be in the field just to the
south, beside the large flower garden. This is a great location with
lots of flat grassy space, many large trees and good visibility.
Bathrooms are just across the road, and we will have a small tent for
changeroom space.

The city has offered to supply us with tables and chairs if we would
like - so please let me know if you need some.
If people can bring simple costumes that are easy for kids to try on,
and get their pictures taken, please let us know.

Please reply to this message if you are interested in coming out so we
can get an idea on numbers.

In service,
-Edward the Red




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#392

From: Bob Roberts <maskkasm@...>
Date: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:53 am
Subject: Paging Archibald

maskkasm@...

Hey Archibald, it's Chris. Are you planning to attand
the Sept. 15th event in Sarnia? I hope so. I would
like to do some cut and thrust monkey love with you.
It would be great to fence with you again.
Chris


      
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#393

From: argh@...
Date: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:21 am
Subject: re: Paging Archibald

govianus

Actually I was intending on being at the event in Yarker, its much closer for
the both of us and fencing is at the core
of that event being one of the "Border Spat" series.

Sarnia is a bit far of a stroll seeing as school is starting that week and I
likely have pages numbered in the thousands
for the next week to read.

I look forward to the monkey love, but it will be easier to find me closer to
home....

=)

Aaron Miedema
Lente autem non celer sum.

#394

From: "Ross Weaver" <ross.weaver@...>
Date: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:16 pm
Subject: Day of Piracy

wilhelmvonpo...

Cristabell and I are considering going to day of piracy this Saturday
and was wondering if there would be anyone else there to fence with?

~Herr Wilhelm

#395

From: Anna B <abaginski@...>
Date: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:29 pm
Subject: Re: Day of Piracy

rusalkagalbr...

Sorry not me.  Much as I hate to miss it, it being one of my fave events and
all, I'll be busy moving :(

   regretfully,
   Rusalka

Ross Weaver <ross.weaver@...> wrote:
           Cristabell and I are considering going to day of piracy this Saturday
and was wondering if there would be anyone else there to fence with?

~Herr Wilhelm





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#396

From: "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:06 pm
Subject: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

johnny_vague

Hi All,

Given the dedicated list for EAOD, it is my intention to play my
Provost prize at this event however, given the lack of other provosts,
I wanted to know if any of the other hopefuls were planning on
attending and playing their prize. Otherwise I will look a little
silly.

On a related note, I'm going to need some crash space for me and
probably Lucia and Lydia.

--j

#397

From: "Garry Campbell" <gareth.rapier@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

killian0ne

Has there been any word form the Preceptor as to how we will be working the
Prize fights.
I also requested the ability to fight mine at Season but was told there was no
set prize
formate as of yet and had to wait due to a waiting list of potential Provosts...

And am still waiting on responces to corispondence sent before pennsic.

THL Gareth

--- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Given the dedicated list for EAOD, it is my intention to play my
> Provost prize at this event however, given the lack of other provosts,
> I wanted to know if any of the other hopefuls were planning on
> attending and playing their prize. Otherwise I will look a little
> silly.
>
> On a related note, I'm going to need some crash space for me and
> probably Lucia and Lydia.
>
> --j
>

#398

From: "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

johnny_vague

I've not hear anything nor have I spoken with Wilhelm as I've not been
out to practice.

--j

On 8/22/07, Garry Campbell <gareth.rapier@...> wrote:
> Has there been any word form the Preceptor as to how we will be working the
Prize fights.
> I also requested the ability to fight mine at Season but was told there was no
set prize
> formate as of yet and had to wait due to a waiting list of potential
Provosts...
>
> And am still waiting on responces to corispondence sent before pennsic.
>
> THL Gareth
>
> --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Given the dedicated list for EAOD, it is my intention to play my
> > Provost prize at this event however, given the lack of other provosts,
> > I wanted to know if any of the other hopefuls were planning on
> > attending and playing their prize. Otherwise I will look a little
> > silly.
> >
> > On a related note, I'm going to need some crash space for me and
> > probably Lucia and Lydia.
> >
> > --j
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

#399

From: "Kelly Wyatt" <kgarlow@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:14 pm
Subject: Pennsic stories?

snowy_owl30

For those of us forced to live vicariously...

Would it be possible to request a couple of tales of the fencing at Pennsic?
How did it go?

Cainder
sidelined till October...

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
MKA - Kelly Wyatt      kgarlow@...
SCA -Bantiarna Cainder ingen hui Chatharnaig
Seeblatt Herald, Kingdom of Ealdormere
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Justus, Fortis, Patiens - Per chevron argent and sable, two sprigs of witch
hazel and a snowy owl counterchanged.

#400

From: "Garry Campbell" <gareth.rapier@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

killian0ne

smile... all good maybe he will have answers soon!
How are you finding practice? I ahve not been to practice in the last month as I
am packing to
move and well have had little time.

Gareth

#401

From: "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

johnny_vague

I'm not finding it at all. I mean I'm sure it's where I've left it,
but I haven't been looking for it.

--j

On 8/22/07, Garry Campbell <gareth.rapier@...> wrote:
> smile... all good maybe he will have answers soon!
> How are you finding practice? I ahve not been to practice in the last month as
I am packing to
> move and well have had little time.
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

#402

From: Anna B <abaginski@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

rusalkagalbr...

Fabulous!  So we'll all show up to SotW sorely out of shape and needing to
calibrate :)

   Regardless, I'm very much looking forward to again crossing blades with you
Giovanni.  Just make sure to save me a dance or two after you and Gareth have
finished slicing each other into bits for your Provost Prize.

   On that - and more personal note - I had originally hoped to fight my Free
Schollar, and had even begun discussing my research project with THL Albrecht,
however, seeing as I have not gone anywhere *near* a practice in the past month
there's not even the slimmest possiblity of it happening.  Perhaps at one of the
winter events?  But we shall see!

   In packing tape and markers,
   Rusalka

John Enzinas <jenzinas@...> wrote:
           I'm not finding it at all. I mean I'm sure it's where I've left it,
but I haven't been looking for it.

--j

On 8/22/07, Garry Campbell <gareth.rapier@...> wrote:
> smile... all good maybe he will have answers soon!
> How are you finding practice? I ahve not been to practice in the last month as
I am packing to
> move and well have had little time.
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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#403

From: "Nicholas J. Corkigian" <doctormobius@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: Pennsic stories?

nikolaidomingo

Alas, no tales from me.  The two days that I was planning to go fencing,
they were both rained out.  It wasn't until afterwards that I found out that
those battles had been rescheduled for the following days.

-Nikolai


   For those of us forced to live vicariously...
>
> Would it be possible to request a couple of tales of the fencing at
> Pennsic?
> How did it go?
>
> Cainder
> sidelined till October...
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>


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#404

From: "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

johnny_vague

On 8/22/07, Anna B <abaginski@...> wrote:
>   Regardless, I'm very much looking forward to again crossing blades with you
Giovanni.
> Just make sure to save me a dance or two after you and Gareth have finished
slicing each
> other into bits for your Provost Prize.

But of course!
I wouldn't miss it for the world.

#405

From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

thltoymaker

From Gerrard: Our meeting is tonight I shall inquire as to whom might have crash
space!

Speaking of which ... would anyone have available crash space close to "
Coronation Of Trumbrand and Kayla " ?
http://www.skraelingalthing.com/site/coronation.html

Site
Rideaux Acres Campground
1014 Cunningham Rd, Kingston

I and one other wee one shall need crash space for Friday night / Saturday night
/ Leaving Sunday morning.



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: John Enzinas
   To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:06 AM
   Subject: [E_Rapier] EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf


   Hi All,

   Given the dedicated list for EAOD, it is my intention to play my
   Provost prize at this event however, given the lack of other provosts,
   I wanted to know if any of the other hopefuls were planning on
   attending and playing their prize. Otherwise I will look a little
   silly.

   On a related note, I'm going to need some crash space for me and
   probably Lucia and Lydia.

   --j





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#406

From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:38 pm
Subject: Cod piece Or !!

thltoymaker

From Gerrard: Anyone have a pattern for a decent " Cod Piece " that they could
send me ?

         If so plese send to    thltoymaker@...

   Snail Mail
Gerry Dowswell
320 Bright St.
Sarnia Ont.
N7T 4G2

I need it A.S.A.P.   Thanks !!

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#407

From: "Kelly Wyatt" <kgarlow@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:55 pm
Subject: RE: Cod piece Or !!

snowy_owl30

It's my understanding that there are patterns in Janet Arnold's book...you
might ask at your group meeting if you don't have her book.

I'm not sure if I have it or not...still unpacking the books. If I do, I'll
email you what I find.

Cainder

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
MKA - Kelly Wyatt      kgarlow@...
SCA -Bantiarna Cainder ingen hui Chatharnaig
Seeblatt Herald, Kingdom of Ealdormere
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Justus, Fortis, Patiens - Per chevron argent and sable, two sprigs of witch
hazel and a snowy owl counterchanged.





>From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@...>
>Reply-To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
>To: <E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:38:37 -0400
>
>From Gerrard: Anyone have a pattern for a decent " Cod Piece " that they
>could send me ?
>
>         If so plese send to    thltoymaker@...
>
>   Snail Mail
>Gerry Dowswell
>320 Bright St.
>Sarnia Ont.
>N7T 4G2
>
>I need it A.S.A.P.   Thanks !!
>
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>

#408

From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:43 am
Subject: Re: Cod piece Or !!

thltoymaker

Thanks  !

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Kelly Wyatt
   To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:55 PM
   Subject: RE: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!

   It's my understanding that there are patterns in Janet Arnold's book...you
   might ask at your group meeting if you don't have her book.

   I'm not sure if I have it or not...still unpacking the books. If I do, I'll
   email you what I find.

   Cainder

   @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
   MKA - Kelly Wyatt kgarlow@...
   SCA -Bantiarna Cainder ingen hui Chatharnaig
   Seeblatt Herald, Kingdom of Ealdormere
   @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
   Justus, Fortis, Patiens - Per chevron argent and sable, two sprigs of witch
   hazel and a snowy owl counterchanged.

   >From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@...>
   >Reply-To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
   >To: <E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com>
   >Subject: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!
   >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:38:37 -0400
   >
   >From Gerrard: Anyone have a pattern for a decent " Cod Piece " that they
   >could send me ?
   >
   > If so plese send to thltoymaker@...
   >
   > Snail Mail
   >Gerry Dowswell
   >320 Bright St.
   >Sarnia Ont.
   >N7T 4G2
   >
   >I need it A.S.A.P. Thanks !!
   >
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   >

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#409

From: "Eve Harris & David Stamper" <evedave1@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:54 am
Subject: RE: Cod piece Or !!

asa1066

There is one small diagram for a cod piece in Janet Arnold as part of the
pages on the 1562 Doublet and paned Trunk Hose (pgs 54-66). The diagram of
the construction is tiny but might be useful. The illustration on pg 55
might actually be more useful. Asa used this example to construct the cod
piece I currently wear with my fencing garb.



Albrecht





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From: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of thltoymaker
Sent: August 22, 2007 9:44 PM
To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!



Thanks !

----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly Wyatt
To: E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!

It's my understanding that there are patterns in Janet Arnold's book...you
might ask at your group meeting if you don't have her book.

I'm not sure if I have it or not...still unpacking the books. If I do, I'll
email you what I find.

Cainder

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
MKA - Kelly Wyatt kgarlow@sympatico. <mailto:kgarlow%40sympatico.ca> ca
SCA -Bantiarna Cainder ingen hui Chatharnaig
Seeblatt Herald, Kingdom of Ealdormere
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Justus, Fortis, Patiens - Per chevron argent and sable, two sprigs of witch
hazel and a snowy owl counterchanged.

>From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@ <mailto:thltoymaker%40cogeco.ca>
cogeco.ca>
>Reply-To: E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
>To: <E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com>
>Subject: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:38:37 -0400
>
>From Gerrard: Anyone have a pattern for a decent " Cod Piece " that they
>could send me ?
>
> If so plese send to thltoymaker@ <mailto:thltoymaker%40cogeco.ca>
cogeco.ca
>
> Snail Mail
>Gerry Dowswell
>320 Bright St.
>Sarnia Ont.
>N7T 4G2
>
>I need it A.S.A.P. Thanks !!
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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#410

From: "Eve Harris & David Stamper" <evedave1@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:00 am
Subject: RE: Cod piece Or !!

asa1066

Sorry, that would pgs 54-55. Must be more careful before I post.



Albrecht





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From: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eve Harris & David Stamper
Sent: August 22, 2007 10:55 PM
To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!



There is one small diagram for a cod piece in Janet Arnold as part of the
pages on the 1562 Doublet and paned Trunk Hose (pgs 54-66). The diagram of
the construction is tiny but might be useful. The illustration on pg 55
might actually be more useful. Asa used this example to construct the cod
piece I currently wear with my fencing garb.

Albrecht

_____

From: E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
[mailto:E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com] On
Behalf
Of thltoymaker
Sent: August 22, 2007 9:44 PM
To: E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
Subject: Re: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!

Thanks !

----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly Wyatt
To: E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!

It's my understanding that there are patterns in Janet Arnold's book...you
might ask at your group meeting if you don't have her book.

I'm not sure if I have it or not...still unpacking the books. If I do, I'll
email you what I find.

Cainder

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
MKA - Kelly Wyatt kgarlow@sympatico. <mailto:kgarlow%40sympatico.ca> ca
SCA -Bantiarna Cainder ingen hui Chatharnaig
Seeblatt Herald, Kingdom of Ealdormere
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Justus, Fortis, Patiens - Per chevron argent and sable, two sprigs of witch
hazel and a snowy owl counterchanged.

>From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@ <mailto:thltoymaker%40cogeco.ca>
cogeco.ca>
>Reply-To: E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
>To: <E_Rapier@yahoogroup <mailto:E_Rapier%40yahoogroups.com> s.com>
>Subject: [E_Rapier] Cod piece Or !!
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:38:37 -0400
>
>From Gerrard: Anyone have a pattern for a decent " Cod Piece " that they
>could send me ?
>
> If so plese send to thltoymaker@ <mailto:thltoymaker%40cogeco.ca>
cogeco.ca
>
> Snail Mail
>Gerry Dowswell
>320 Bright St.
>Sarnia Ont.
>N7T 4G2
>
>I need it A.S.A.P. Thanks !!
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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#411

From: Griffin de Stokeport <griffin@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:13 am
Subject: Rigid Parry Question

griffindesto...

> C. Devices that predictably cause entangling of an opponent or their
> equipment, either by design
> or by repeated mishap, are not allowed.

In keeping with the Norman persona I have going (yes... a 12C Norman
that fences.. go figure) I'd like to make an axe-shaped rigid parry
device. I wouldn't make the axe head very sharply inclined - probably no
more than a 1/4 circle (at the very most) for the top and bottom curves
of the axe-head. Basically, it would exist to hook a blade briefly,
steer it out of harms way (and my squishy bits) and then let it go. I
could make it out of a thin rattan stick (coated in tape obviously) and
foam with duct tape for the head so as to not damage anyone's blade.

Opinions?  The MiT in me says that the axe-head isn't "entangling" the
blade but simply steering it and forcing the opponent to withdraw and
redirect their blade (of course leaving themselves open to attack...). I
see it this way as it doesn't actually lock or trap (ie: entangle) the
blade, just forces it out of the way with a bit more effect than a
simple stick. However, I realize this can quickly become a debate over
vocabulary. Thus, I ask all those who read this for their learned opinions.

My thanks,
Griffin of 'Thule

#412

From: "Eve Harris & David Stamper" <evedave1@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:41 pm
Subject: RE: Rigid Parry Question

asa1066

Hoskuld has used something like this for years and I don�t recall any
complaints about it. His axe handle is made from a piece of doweling.



Albrecht



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From: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Griffin de Stokeport
Sent: August 23, 2007 2:14 AM
To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [E_Rapier] Rigid Parry Question



> C. Devices that predictably cause entangling of an opponent or their
> equipment, either by design
> or by repeated mishap, are not allowed.

In keeping with the Norman persona I have going (yes... a 12C Norman
that fences.. go figure) I'd like to make an axe-shaped rigid parry
device. I wouldn't make the axe head very sharply inclined - probably no
more than a 1/4 circle (at the very most) for the top and bottom curves
of the axe-head. Basically, it would exist to hook a blade briefly,
steer it out of harms way (and my squishy bits) and then let it go. I
could make it out of a thin rattan stick (coated in tape obviously) and
foam with duct tape for the head so as to not damage anyone's blade.

Opinions? The MiT in me says that the axe-head isn't "entangling" the
blade but simply steering it and forcing the opponent to withdraw and
redirect their blade (of course leaving themselves open to attack...). I
see it this way as it doesn't actually lock or trap (ie: entangle) the
blade, just forces it out of the way with a bit more effect than a
simple stick. However, I realize this can quickly become a debate over
vocabulary. Thus, I ask all those who read this for their learned opinions.

My thanks,
Griffin of 'Thule





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#413

From: "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Rigid Parry Question

johnny_vague

I've always defined entangling  as capturing the blade (not the hilt)
in such a way that if the sword's holder lets go the blade does not
fall. I can't think of any way that you could do that with an axe
head. In addition there are lots of people who use sticks with hooks
or other types of cane heads and those are perfectly legal.

The only risk, IMO, is if you make it too realistic such that your
opponent could mistake it for a real axe. This would be against the
rules.

For those who have not seen it, Hoskuld's axe does not have this problem.

--j

On 8/23/07, Griffin de Stokeport <griffin@...> wrote:
> > C. Devices that predictably cause entangling of an opponent or their
> > equipment, either by design
> > or by repeated mishap, are not allowed.
>
> In keeping with the Norman persona I have going (yes... a 12C Norman
> that fences.. go figure) I'd like to make an axe-shaped rigid parry
> device. I wouldn't make the axe head very sharply inclined - probably no
> more than a 1/4 circle (at the very most) for the top and bottom curves
> of the axe-head. Basically, it would exist to hook a blade briefly,
> steer it out of harms way (and my squishy bits) and then let it go. I
> could make it out of a thin rattan stick (coated in tape obviously) and
> foam with duct tape for the head so as to not damage anyone's blade.
>
> Opinions?  The MiT in me says that the axe-head isn't "entangling" the
> blade but simply steering it and forcing the opponent to withdraw and
> redirect their blade (of course leaving themselves open to attack...). I
> see it this way as it doesn't actually lock or trap (ie: entangle) the
> blade, just forces it out of the way with a bit more effect than a
> simple stick. However, I realize this can quickly become a debate over
> vocabulary. Thus, I ask all those who read this for their learned opinions.
>
> My thanks,
> Griffin of 'Thule
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

#414

From: Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: Rigid Parry Question

kgormanshaw

At 02:13 AM 8/23/2007, you wrote:
>In keeping with the Norman persona I have going (yes... a 12C Norman
>that fences.. go figure)

Don't worry, we've had fencing Vikings in the area before :-)

>I'd like to make an axe-shaped rigid parry
>device. I wouldn't make the axe head very sharply inclined - probably no
>more than a 1/4 circle (at the very most) for the top and bottom curves
>of the axe-head.

It will be beautiful.  If it fits the period, extend the ax part over
the back side of the haft, so that you end up with 4 places to hook a
blade, though only the one under the head is large, the other three
will work as well.

Our ax head was made by cutting bits of foam and wrapping it tightly
with duct tape.  I'd recommend NOT wrapping it as tightly as you can
go, ours is so thoroughly compressed that it has no give, and you
wouldn't think it was foam without cutting it open.

I'd also stick with a hardwood dowel for a handle.  I've had no
complaints about damaging other people, and we've been using it for
years.  But the hardwood will stand up to rapiers and a rattan stick
will not, it will breakdown and turn into dust.  (And since I'm
allergic to that dust, I won't fence you with it if I know it's rattan.)

>Opinions?  The MiT in me says that the axe-head isn't "entangling" the

You should have no problems.

Eyrny

#415

From: "Catherine of Eoforwic" <catherineofeoforwic@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: Pennsic stories?

catherine_of...

Greetings!

While this isn't in final form quite yet (I'm planning on
a few tweaks for meter purposes, and possibly some additonal
verses), this gives some idea of the rescheduled woods battle:

Alamo Woods

Remember the Alamo,
Remember the East,
And recall the Wood's slaughter,
Where ravens now feast.

Remember the valiant,
The heroes who fell,
With sworn honour their watchword,
Of them stories tell.

Remember the five banners,
Control to be won,
For to guard and to hold them,
Our job to be done.

Remember the endless foe,
'Gainst poor counted few,
The dark woods that ran blood-red,
O'er allies of Blue.

Remember the battlelines,
We swore to cross,
Remember the cunning plans,
Despite which, we lost.

Remember now your lessons,
When racing to fight,
One blade 'gainst two case will fall,
Few Blue 'gainst Red's might.

Remember to guard behind,
'Gainst tricksters in red,
For quiet and subtle find,
One's comrades all dead.

Remember the King's strong words,
"Stories will be told!"
Of those who fought and died there,
The few, brave and bold.

Remember the Alamo!
Remember the East!

� August 2007 Catherine of Eoforwic
   (mka Robyn Patricia Bennett)

In Service,

Catherine


--- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Wyatt" <kgarlow@...> wrote:
For those of us forced to live vicariously...

Would it be possible to request a couple of tales of the fencing
at Pennsic? How did it go?

Cainder
sidelined till October...

#416

From: "John Enzinas" <jenzinas@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

johnny_vague

Hi all,

I don't know if you have seen the latest Tidings yet (ours arrived
today) but our Preaceptor has shared a list of prizes he has approved
for SotW and also mentions that no fair location or format has been
decided on for the three approved provosts (me, him and albretcht).

This would seem to indicate no provost prize at SotW and no indication
of when or how it will be taking place.

:(

That said, I'm still going to try my best to come down so y'all can
kick my butt.

--j/g

#417

From: "Kelly Wyatt" <kgarlow@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:11 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Pennsic stories?

snowy_owl30

That was lovely!  I  erm...take it that we lost, eh?  *grin*

Cainder

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SCA -Bantiarna Cainder ingen hui Chatharnaig
Seeblatt Herald, Kingdom of Ealdormere
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>From: "Catherine of Eoforwic" <catherineofeoforwic@...>
>Reply-To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
>To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: Pennsic stories?
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:37:44 -0000
>
>Greetings!
>
>While this isn't in final form quite yet (I'm planning on
>a few tweaks for meter purposes, and possibly some additonal
>verses), this gives some idea of the rescheduled woods battle:
>
>Alamo Woods
>
>Remember the Alamo,
>Remember the East,
>And recall the Wood's slaughter,
>Where ravens now feast.
>
>Remember the valiant,
>The heroes who fell,
>With sworn honour their watchword,
>Of them stories tell.
>
>Remember the five banners,
>Control to be won,
>For to guard and to hold them,
>Our job to be done.
>
>Remember the endless foe,
>'Gainst poor counted few,
>The dark woods that ran blood-red,
>O'er allies of Blue.
>
>Remember the battlelines,
>We swore to cross,
>Remember the cunning plans,
>Despite which, we lost.
>
>Remember now your lessons,
>When racing to fight,
>One blade 'gainst two case will fall,
>Few Blue 'gainst Red's might.
>
>Remember to guard behind,
>'Gainst tricksters in red,
>For quiet and subtle find,
>One's comrades all dead.
>
>Remember the King's strong words,
>"Stories will be told!"
>Of those who fought and died there,
>The few, brave and bold.
>
>Remember the Alamo!
>Remember the East!
>
>� August 2007 Catherine of Eoforwic
>   (mka Robyn Patricia Bennett)
>
>In Service,
>
>Catherine
>
>
>--- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Wyatt" <kgarlow@...> wrote:
>For those of us forced to live vicariously...
>
>Would it be possible to request a couple of tales of the fencing
>at Pennsic? How did it go?
>
>Cainder
>sidelined till October...
>
>

#418

From: "Garry Campbell" <gareth.rapier@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: EAOD Prize at Season of the Wolf

killian0ne

Congrats on making the list...
Im sure seeing as Willy is on the list it will not be long
till he tells us how he wants to procced!

Gareth

#419

From: "thltoymaker" <thltoymaker@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Pennsic stories?

thltoymaker

" a few tweaks for meter purposes "     ... Wow you might want to use a larger
font  ..........   hard to imagine a poem a meter long ....

Just kidding !! ...  nicely done !

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Catherine of Eoforwic
   To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:37 PM
   Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: Pennsic stories?

   Greetings!

   While this isn't in final form quite yet (I'm planning on
   a few tweaks for meter purposes, and possibly some additonal
   verses), this gives some idea of the rescheduled woods battle:

   Alamo Woods

   Remember the Alamo,
   Remember the East,
   And recall the Wood's slaughter,
   Where ravens now feast.

   Remember the valiant,
   The heroes who fell,
   With sworn honour their watchword,
   Of them stories tell.

   Remember the five banners,
   Control to be won,
   For to guard and to hold them,
   Our job to be done.

   Remember the endless foe,
   'Gainst poor counted few,
   The dark woods that ran blood-red,
   O'er allies of Blue.

   Remember the battlelines,
   We swore to cross,
   Remember the cunning plans,
   Despite which, we lost.

   Remember now your lessons,
   When racing to fight,
   One blade 'gainst two case will fall,
   Few Blue 'gainst Red's might.

   Remember to guard behind,
   'Gainst tricksters in red,
   For quiet and subtle find,
   One's comrades all dead.

   Remember the King's strong words,
   "Stories will be told!"
   Of those who fought and died there,
   The few, brave and bold.

   Remember the Alamo!
   Remember the East!

   � August 2007 Catherine of Eoforwic
   (mka Robyn Patricia Bennett)

   In Service,

   Catherine

   --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Wyatt" <kgarlow@...> wrote:
   For those of us forced to live vicariously...

   Would it be possible to request a couple of tales of the fencing
   at Pennsic? How did it go?

   Cainder
   sidelined till October...

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