what I want to know is if all those autistic monkeys floating around the lab
down there at the UW will be eligible for the behavioral therapy at the UW's
EEU "Project Data" now?

:) Tami G



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You mentioned that David Kirby gives the parents side of the story --
and the obvious omission, which is documented throughout in the
footnotes, is the "other side's" version, because they obviously did
not want to cooperate with the publication of the book.

I don't think the CDC could possibly do a better job of appearing like
they have something to hide, and whatever faith is lost in the national
vaccine program should be attributed to the CDC's apparent lack of
openness and veracity, and not to those who question them.  Even if
there are zero risks associated with Thimerosal, their handling of the
issue is still a huge problem in my opinion.

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obvious. He has a career to think about!!!

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Hello,

        I am in the process of reading this book and have been following the evidence since 2000.  I do have one question - why David Kirby did not state his opinion on this matter?  He gives the parent's story, but does not state if he believes there is evidence of harm.

Carol Chakwin

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Lenny, thanks so much for doing this. A dialogue on this issue is what I
had hoped for

Let's hope the "other side" chimes in. I am still waiting to debate
someone point by point

David Kirby

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Hello,

        I am in the process of reading this book and have been following the evidence since 2000.  I do have one question - why David Kirby did not state his opinion on this matter?  He gives the parent's story, but does not state if he believes there is evidence of harm.

Carol Chakwin

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Hi Carol

 

As a reporter, I have been trained from the get go not to let my opinion affect the story, nor even to mention what my opinion is. I report, readers decide. If I were a scientist or doctor, rather than a journalist, that would be different. Of course I have my own opinions, but expressing them would have been, believe it or not, inappropriate! Weird, I know.

 

Thanks

 

dk

 

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Hello,

        I am in the process of reading this book and have been following the evidence since 2000.  I do have one question - why David Kirby did not state his opinion on this matter?  He gives the parent's story, but does not state if he believes there is evidence of harm.

Carol Chakwin

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Hello Fellow EOHarmers,

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Nancy says:
> A journalist's duty is to report a story objectively and fairly,
without bias. The evidence may lead readers to a conclusion, but it is
not necessarily the writer's duty to make the case as an attorney would.

This is nothing specific to David Kirby. Journalism is a discipline
that is more a literary form than a science.  Journalists are story
tellers, afterall.  One effective way of telling stories is to use the
"fair and objective" style.  This doesn't mean that the journalist is
actually being fair and objective, only that he/she needs to give the
appearance of being so. The best way of pulling off the appearance is
to do a good job of collecting and reporting the information.
-Lenny

PLEASE keep me posted on this excellent work!

Thank you

David Kirby

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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:23 PM
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Subject: [EOHarm] California DDS Caseload

After reading Rick Rollens latest report on the autism caseload for the
California Department of Developmental Services, I did some looking
into it of my own.

I downloaded all of the Client Characteristcs Quarterly reports, and
transferred the autism caseload information into a spreadsheet.

One interesting look at the data is the trend for the increase in
caseloads, which is shown in the attached graphic.  Going back to
September '02, the overall trend is that the rate of increase in
caseload is on the decline.

I'm working on a couple of different looks at this data, but one thing
I am finding is that it appears the average age is rising.  The
percentage as a whole of the 3-5 and 6-9 age groups is on a steady
decline, whereas the 10-14, 14-17 and 18-21 age groups are on a steady
incline.

I think it would be expected that as the cases of autism in the
thimerosal-vaccinated kids run through the system, there should be a
"bubble" of caseloads representing the birth years of around 1991-2001.

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This is from Lyn Redwood of SafeMinds (EOH pps. 1-3, et al.)  Note
that this is not for publicaton until tommorow. -LS

Embargoed Until: 			   Contact:  Phil Elwood, 202-628-7772
April 21, 2005 			 pelwood@...

NEW STUDY SHOWS VACCINE MERCURY RESULTS IN MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH
MERCURY BEING TRAPPED IN THE BRAIN

SafeMinds Recommends Additional Research Funding into the Neurological
Impact of the Mercury-Based Preservative Thimerosal

Washington, DC—A study funded by the National Institutes of Health
(NIH) and conducted by University of Washington researcher Thomas M.
Burbacher, PhD concludes that the mercury-based vaccine preservative
thimerosal is more hazardous than medical professionals previously
believed.  SafeMinds, Sensible Action For Ending Mercury Induced
Neurological Disorders, urges further research into the health risks
created by the presence of thimerosal in vaccines administered to
children and pregnant women.

Some health officials have suggested that the mercury in thimerosal is
less toxic than other forms of mercury such as methylmercury, the
highly toxic environmental form of mercury.  This groundbreaking
study, however titled "Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in
Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing
Thimerosal," is the first of its kind to show that thimerosal's
mercury may actually be more harmful than methylmercury.  The reason
is the type of mercury in thimerosal – ethylmercury – quickly crosses
the blood-brain barrier where it converts to a form that is unable to
leave the brain. Dr. Burbacher's study shows that twice as much
mercury remains trapped in the brain from doses of ethylmercury in
thimerosal compared to equal doses of methylmercury.

"These new findings undermine the position of vaccine makers, who have
long denied harm from exposing a generation of children to excessive
levels of mercury as a needless additive in vaccines," said Sallie
Bernard, co-founder of Safe Minds.  "This study is yet another step in
the complete reversal of scientific assumptions about the effects of
thimerosal."

The Institute of Medicine issued a report in 2004 that stated that
there was no causal link between thimerosal and neurological disorders
like autism.  Inorganic mercury, which is what thimerosal leaves
behind in the brain, contributes to microgliosis, a recently reported
finding in the brains of those with autism. In light of these new
findings Safe Minds recommends a complete reevaluation of this issue
by the Institute of Medicine.

"This study contradicts the assumption that mercury from thimerosal
[ethylmercury] is safer than environmental mercury [methylmercury]
from eating fish and emissions from coal-fired power plants," said
Mark Blaxill, a board member of Safe Minds and an expert cited in the
Burbacher study.  "This study should compel government agencies to
retract their flawed and premature conclusions regarding thimerosal
and stick to the facts."


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Heavy price to pay for the spin on vaccinations

Margaret Cook


THE furore over the MMR vaccine and its putative association with
autism, which "trampled a ... destructive path through the fields of
childhood vaccination policy" (British Medical Journal, 27th March,
2004) is likely to be swamped into insignificance by a burgeoning new
vaccine row.

The evidence linking autism to the toxic heavy metal, mercury, is
strong and growing. Thiomersal, a compound containing almost 50%
mercury, has been used for 66 years as a preservative in vaccines.
Since then, serious, incurable, behavioural disorders such as autism
and hyperactivity-attention-deficit-disorder (HADD), rare or non-
existent prior to 1939, have been increasing exponentially. A
parallel increase does not of itself indicate cause, but there are
many factors that increasingly support that conclusion.

As long ago as 1999, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) found
that accumulated mercury in infants under 6 months, mainly from
vaccines, exceeded safety limits set by the Environmental Protection
Agency. Researchers then reported a statistically significant,
epidemiological association between thiomersal-containing vaccines
and childhood neuro-developmental disorders - a biologically
plausible link. Alarm bells rang around the world. Medicine
regulators in America and Europe promptly recommended the phasing out
of thiomersal in vaccines for infants and toddlers, "in the shortest
possible time frame".

Some 14 months later, in August 2000, an announcement in the UK that
all new vaccines would be thiomersal-free was clearly window-
dressing. In fact, the mercury-containing DTP triple vaccine
(diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis) continued to be used, simply to use
up existing stocks. This was the first vaccine infants received, in 3
doses at monthly intervals, the first at 2 months of age. It was
phased out eventually in mid 2004, and as usual the introduction of a
replacement vaccine was turbulent.

The health authorities had stood up to a man and brazenly declared
the old mercury injections safe. No evidence proves the link between
autism and thiomersal, they said. They even claimed the new injection
was free of thiomersal for other reasons (it would interfere with the
polio component of the new jab). They unwisely urged parents and GPs
to continue to use the old vaccine even when the new one was only a
month or two away, on the grounds that children would otherwise be at
risk from the three diseases. An outbreak of whooping cough or
diphtheria in the UK? When did anyone last see a case?

Meanwhile, although a House of Commons Health Committee recommended
in 1997 an urgent gathering of information and monitoring of autism,
the Department of Health has done nothing so far. But health
authorities have painted themselves into a corner with
misinformation, because if the link between mercury and autism is
proved beyond all doubt - which the accumulating evidence suggests it
will be - the capacity for litigation, certainly in the US, would
possibly be sufficiently seismic to destroy the pharmaceutical
industry as we know it.

Mercury has been known to be poisonous for decades, but like many
toxins, it can be tolerated by adults in minuscule doses. But the
same is emphatically not true of infants. 25 per cent of American
children have excessive heavy metal exposure early in life, even
prenatally from the mother's dental amalgam fillings and
environmental pollution, as well as from vaccines.

The infant blood-brain barrier is not fully developed until about 6
months old. The developing brain is particularly susceptible to tiny
amounts of toxic metals, which disrupt chemical messages and alter
essential transmitters such as serotonin. Mercury used as an
antiseptic in teething powder in the 1940s caused a condition known
as "pink disease" with skin inflammation and behavioural problems
similar to autism. The metal was removed from teething powder and
pink disease disappeared from the medical textbooks. How appalling
that the metal continued to be used for vaccines, at the most
vulnerable time of life.

Autism in the UK increased tenfold among children between 1984 and
1994. In the US, the increase over the last two decades is about
sixty-fold. One child in 166 is autistic, the third most common
childhood complaint.

The current most plausible theories, in which there is a consensus of
several groups of researchers from Scandinavia and the US, is that
the cause is multifactorial. The first factor is a genetic
predisposition, for only some children appear to be at risk from
heavy metals. They lack a protein called metallothionein which
detoxifies and protects against heavy metals. In these children, the
toxicity of the mercury on brain, gut and immune system is unopposed;
and it is proposed the MMR can then act as a trigger to precipitate
autism. MMR does not contain mercury, but it does consist of live
viruses, which a damaged immune system cannot handle.

Thiomersal is no longer present in infants' vaccines in the UK. But
parents and politician-watchers do not forget past spin, and are all
too aware of outsize conflicts of interest in the establishment. The
new infant pentavalent vaccine contains other toxins, aluminium and
formaldehyde, with long-term effects unknown.

The thinking public is mystified at the urgency with which they are
pressed to accept vaccination, when the diseases these medicines are
designed to defy are virtually banished from the world. In the days
when vaccines were designed to protect against rampant and
potentially fatal disease like smallpox and polio, they were indeed
an unqualified good. Now, it is difficult for even professionals to
be sure.

If I were a new parent today, I would be reluctant to accept the
present received wisdom on vaccination.

• Margaret Cook is a retired consultant.



This article:

   http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=418472005

Margaret Cook:

   http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=221

Hello,

        I am in the process of reading this book and have been following the evidence since 2000.  I do have one question - why David Kirby did not state his opinion on this matter?  He gives the parent's story, but does not state if he believes there is evidence of harm.

Carol Chakwin

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After reading Rick Rollens latest report on the autism caseload for the
California Department of Developmental Services, I did some looking
into it of my own.

I downloaded all of the Client Characteristcs Quarterly reports, and
transferred the autism caseload information into a spreadsheet.

One interesting look at the data is the trend for the increase in
caseloads, which is shown in the attached graphic.  Going back to
September '02, the overall trend is that the rate of increase in
caseload is on the decline.

I'm working on a couple of different looks at this data, but one thing
I am finding is that it appears the average age is rising.  The
percentage as a whole of the 3-5 and 6-9 age groups is on a steady
decline, whereas the 10-14, 14-17 and 18-21 age groups are on a steady
incline.

I think it would be expected that as the cases of autism in the
thimerosal-vaccinated kids run through the system, there should be a
"bubble" of caseloads representing the birth years of around 1991-2001.

- Scott





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Parents lobby against mercury

Pat Doyle,  Minneapolis Star Tribune
Last update: April 19, 2005 at 6:42 AM
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5355747.html

When Nancy Hokkanen was told a few years ago that her son had
autism, she sought answers. Using the Internet, she eventually
concluded the boy was a victim of mercury poisoning caused by a
preservative in his vaccinations.

She joined forces with a group of parents that advocates prohibiting
the mercury-based preservative thimerosal. They have been persistent
but not persuasive in bringing their cause to the Legislature.

[continued at link]

CRITICISM OF PREVIOUS ARTICLE:

He said, she said journalism

Posted by Craig Westover
TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2005
http://craigwestover.blogspot.com/2005/04/he-said-she-said-
journalism.html

Writing in the Star Tribune today, reporter Pat Doyle offers a bit
of "he said, she said" journalism that adds virtually nothing to the
debate over vaccine safety. The medical establishment trots out the
same denials, so there is really no need for any comment other than
this link.

However, this article says a lot about the way the mainstream media
thinks.

[continued at link]

Nancy Hokkanen
Minneapolis

Tonight the parents and advocates working on Minnesota's bill to limit
mercury in vaccines decided not to introduce it as an amendment on the
health omnibus bill. That was our last chance to pass the bill this
session.

We faced stiff opposition by the Department of Health, the Mayo
Clinic, pediatricians from AAP and others. We learned many tactics for
next year, such as the need to script questions for our sponsors in
advance of hearings.

Education on Thimerosal will continue. We will reframe the argument by
accumulating and presenting information to prove that like the lead
issue, Minnesota's children need testing and treatment for mercury. In
the coming months our group plans to issue a report to key state
agency heads.

Nancy Hokkanen
Minneapolis

Welcome "ddztmz",

It is sad to hear of family members turning their backs on their
frailest members so.  How does one break through such ignorance that
at times can seem so stubborn.

My neo-mengelism analogy seriously weakens when attempting to extend
it to the gestalt of naziism. I believe those responsible for
perpetuating the autism epidemic, the public health scientists and
their apologists, are not the hate-driven bully jack-booted fascists
of yesteryear. Lujene Clarke of NoMercury (EOH pps. 377, 397) once
commented to me that when she lobbies congresspeople about
anti-mercury legislation, she answer doubting questions about whether
she thinks there is some evil conspiracy at work by saying "no, its
nothing as fancy as a conspiracy, its just a few high level
bureaucrates trying to cover their butts." People have a hard time
believing in conspiracies, but everyone, especially politicians, can
relate to the concept of bureaucrats attempting to cover up their
mistakes. However the rationalization of sacrificing the (innocent)
few for the so-called greater good is quintessential fascist thinking
often seen sprouting from elitists of all political stripes, even
moderate scientists.

Your father seems quite threatened by autism.  Fear is what is behind
bigotry. I wonder what your father fears would happen by accepting his
injured grandson?  Find a gentle way to pose the question and the
answer should provide some helpful clues.

Lenny

Lenny

--- In EOHarm@yahoogroups.com, "ddztmz" <ddztmz@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I appreciated reading this. I suppose it is because I have had
> similar thoughts over the years. I am the mother of a 10 year old son
> with Autism and a 13 year old son with ADD/ADHD and possibly
> Asperger's(he has not been diagnosed as such, but I am making
> educated guesses based on his behavior). Both of these children were
> fully vaccinated,
> including booster shots. Now, I also have two younger children who
> have not received any vaccinations and so far they appear to be
> normal, but

-snip-

Hi Avril,
It is always great to hear of someone's child pulling out of autism.
I can see no greater candle power "beacon in a dark and dreary world"
than the parent who brings a child into the spotlight of health
against such odds. Gerry is lucky to have sucha great mom. I am just
one of many parents who's letting "this little light of mine shine."
Everyone has their own flashlite -- even those with only button
batteries with a little mercury can illuminate.

Lenny


--- In EOHarm@yahoogroups.com, Avril <lorned@n...> wrote:
>
> At 07:01 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I published this six months ago in the SAR.  Since it pertains
directly to
> >the people and events of EOH, I reprise it here. There was little,
if any
> >response to it then, which surprized be given it harsher than usual
tone.
> >I wonder if that response would be different if it were to run today.
> >
> >Lenny
>   <snip>
>
> Hi Lenny,
>
> I've been a subscriber to your list for years and am very grateful
for your
> information and insight regarding these matters.  I remember when you
> published that article to the web.
>
> My son was born in '97 and regressed at 18 months of age.  At 3.5
years we
> found a DAN doctor and very soon after began the long road to
> recovery.  Now, at eight years of age my son passes for normal.  We are

> still GF/CF/SF and corn free and low phenols and sugar.  We use
enzymes and
> anti-inflammatories for the lympho-nodular hyperplasia found in his
> colon.  He is finally starting to get signals from  bowels to brain!
  It's
> been a rough five years, but the two years he was in an autistic
state were
> worse.
>
> If anything convinces me of the truth of Evidence of Harm and the
damage
> that thimerosol has done to our child, it is the fact that the DAN
protocol
> has worked!
>
> Thanks Lenny for being a beacon in a dark and dreary world,
>
> Avril Dannenbaum, mom to Gerry 2/19/97

I appreciated reading this. I suppose it is because I have had
similar thoughts over the years. I am the mother of a 10 year old son
with Autism and a 13 year old son with ADD/ADHD and possibly
Asperger's(he has not been diagnosed as such, but I am making
educated guesses based on his behavior). Both of these children were
fully vaccinated,
including booster shots. Now, I also have two younger children who
have not received any vaccinations and so far they appear to be
normal, but
of course only time will tell. Do you suppose this is just a
coincidence? I mean two kids who are fully vaccinated behaving
strangely and two kids who were never vaccinated behaving normally.
What are the odds do you suppose?

Anyhow the point I would like to make is this: there are people who
exist now, people who have existed in the recent past, as well as
people, I would guess, throughout millenia who have believed in some
sort of the survival of the fittest notion. They believe there is an
elite class and they believe in an expendable class of people. It is
not my intention to dishonor my father in what I am about to say. My
father grew up as one of the "Hitler Youth". They were brainwashed to
believe that they were part of a superior race of people. They were
brainwashed to hate certain other groups of people. My father is
elderly now and I am not going to say that he is a Nazi now because I
do not believe that his is, but old habits die hard. The thought has
occurred to me that if my less than perfect autistic son was alive
during that time, as mentioned in Lenny's article, he might have been
experimented on, even though he was not a Jew, nor Black, nor
homosexual, etc., but because of the way his brain functioned. It
brings tears to my eyes to think that at that period in history, at
that place in time, my son would have been treated worse than an
animal. Even now, my father doesn't ever mention my autistic son by
name. I suppose he considers it shameful that this child was produced
through his genes. I do not know. Never will. Too afraid to ask.

It seems to me that we have the same type of deal going on today, in
America. An elite class that believes that some are expendable. We
know who the elite are and we know who the expendable ones are, don't
we.

At 07:01 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I published this six months ago in the SAR.  Since it pertains directly to
>the people and events of EOH, I reprise it here. There was little, if any
>response to it then, which surprized be given it harsher than usual tone.
>I wonder if that response would be different if it were to run today.
>
>Lenny
   <snip>

Hi Lenny,

I've been a subscriber to your list for years and am very grateful for your
information and insight regarding these matters.  I remember when you
published that article to the web.

My son was born in '97 and regressed at 18 months of age.  At 3.5 years we
found a DAN doctor and very soon after began the long road to
recovery.  Now, at eight years of age my son passes for normal.  We are
still GF/CF/SF and corn free and low phenols and sugar.  We use enzymes and
anti-inflammatories for the lympho-nodular hyperplasia found in his
colon.  He is finally starting to get signals from  bowels to brain!  It's
been a rough five years, but the two years he was in an autistic state were
worse.

If anything convinces me of the truth of Evidence of Harm and the damage
that thimerosol has done to our child, it is the fact that the DAN protocol
has worked!

Thanks Lenny for being a beacon in a dark and dreary world,

Avril Dannenbaum, mom to Gerry 2/19/97

Hello everyone,
This note comes from Safe Minds' Mark Blaxill, who also joins this list
today.  Welcome Mark.   Notice the names in the cc: list. of this post
Almost all are principles or are mentioned in EOH.  I intend to post some of
their exchanges here.  If you're trying to keep a "scorecard" of the
players, you can refresh your who's-who memory by consulting the index of
EOH.  I have asked, or will be asking all of these folks to join our list.


Lenny

-----Original Message-----
From: Blaxill Mark [mailto:Blaxill.Mark@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:41 AM
To: sbernard Lyn Redwood; Robert Krakow; Jim Moody; Laura Bono; RITA
SHREFFLER; bobbie manning; Lujene Clark; Rick Rollens; Liz Birt; Jeff Segal;
Clark, Lujene & Alan; Heidi Roger; Albert Enayati; beth clay; Peter Malvey;
Jamie Shor; Phil Elwood; Lenny Schafer
Subject: RE: Olmsted - Amish Story Part Two

here's the note I sent Dan

"the gloves come off. great piece. important research. well presented,
especially your openness to other insights. that's ethically important and
also scientific in the best sense of the word.

thanks for doing this!"


The Age of Autism: Julia
By DAN OLMSTED
LEOLA, Pa., April 19 (UPI) -- Part 2 of 2.

Three-year old Julia is
napping when I arrive at the spare, neat, cheerful house on Musser School
Road near the town of Leola in Lancaster County.

She is the reason I have driven through the budding countryside on this
perfect spring day, but I really do not need to meet her.

-snip-

I published this six months ago in the SAR.  Since it pertains directly to the people and events of EOH, I reprise it here. There was little, if any response to it then, which surprized be given it harsher than usual tone. I wonder if that response would be different if it were to run today.

Lenny

The Rise and Fall of Neo-Mengelism

      Let us not forget the importance of inoculations for saving the lives of thousands from infectious diseases.  We cannot jeopardize the public's health by unduly questioning the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. All the medical studies we have done or analyzed have shown there is no connection between vaccines and autism.  Even a prestigious and independent scientific institution says vaccines are safe. Not only that, they warn the public that there should be no further research into the connections between the shots and the disability, as a waste of time and money.
      This summarizes the government's official position in this controversial matter before us. Specifically, this is the policy of Food and Drug Administration, The Centers for Disease and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health.  These agencies are made up and run by medical scientists.
      Senator Bill Frist has insisted numerous times in congress that despite all the government reassurances, the scientific studies, and the warnings of the potential lethal plagues caused by reductions of vaccination rates, there are still some who remain unconvinced vaccines are safe and are taking matters to court and to the public.  Frist and defenders of the status quo say that lawyers are manipulating parents of autistic children to not believe all this solid evidence and thus threaten the public's health (and the health and profitability of pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccines.)
      Frist argues that the parent lawsuits over vaccine damage from the preservative Thimerosal are "frivolous" seeking to unfairly exploit the "deep pockets" of the pharmaceutical industry. Because American civil juries have demonstrated that they cannot always be trusted to find the truth and award appropriate compensation, Frist asserts that special laws must be enacted to prohibit the filing of any vaccine related lawsuits to protect the public from such de facto domestic terrorism. Protection-seeking politicians trivialize the injured children as being frivolous.
      Some, and a growing number of parents with family autism see all this as a dark conspiracy by public health officials, pharmaceutical companies, and politicians to cover up their own negligence and duplicity for creating and sustaining a horrendous autism epidemic in the name of the public good.  At tremendous stake for the alleged conspirators is not only the defense of the nation's vaccination institutions and public health, but also for some, the profitability of "client" pharmaceutical companies with whom they work with closely.  Also at risk is their political power, their scientific and medical careers, and quite possibly their personal freedom -- as a result of their criminal actions being discovered.
      The magnitude of the motive for such a cover-up conspiracy is overwhelming. There is so much as stake here that it could be reasonably suspected that usually honest, well-meaning people in quiet times are now motivated by such duress to deny the truth of the harm they or their institutions have wreaked, and outright lie. 
      The opportunity for causing and defending such would-be crimes against humanity is one of perfection.  The latitude of power public health officials have over the public is as strong as it gets in a democracy.  In the name of public health, emergency and non-emergency measures can be enacted to enforce control over the behavior of citizens considered to be a medical threat. Vaccines can be and are mandated.  A citizen's willful or accidental violation of such measures can result in a range of sanctions, from loss of services of government agencies and refusal of government employment to quarantine (imprisonment). 
      The FDA, the CDC and the NIH are generally expected by congress to police themselves and the medications that are sold, mandated and distributed, especially the ones that they themselves distribute to the public, like vaccines. These agencies use peer-reviewed controlled research and testing as the scientific basis for their public health policy. But these same agencies have enormous influence over scientists and the science they produce by their selection of who get research grants and their potential to destroy careers of those who too strongly challenge official orthodoxy. Consequently, they have the power and the wherewithal to create any "scientific proof" as needed to defend policy.  Also, they are strongly influenced in many areas of science by the pharmaceutical industry that they are charged with regulating and who are politically well connected.
      But is profound motivation and perfect opportunity enough to make a case for criminal conspiracy? And what alleged crimes are the government committing, anyway?  The foremost official criminal act is the sacrificing of the health and quality of life of a few in the name of the public good, in the effort to defend the nations inoculation program at any cost. The government's wholesale denial of any and all scientific evidence of a vaccine-autism connection serves only to reinforce the belief by some parents of the government's willingness to pay any price for a cover up, including the sacrifice of the truth.
       The justification for sacrificing a few for the many appears to be sound if there are only a rare number of adverse reactions to the vaccines.  But it is not sound, nor morally justified when nothing is in place to keep a rare few numbers injured from growing to epidemic scale, as it has with autism.  The greater the autism epidemic grows, the more this rationalization becomes ridiculous and further exposed. To this day, in the face of growing evidence, the government still refuses to acknowledge any real growth in the autism population.
      The willingness to sacrifice few in the name of the greater good is not a new concept in medicine or politics.  History has shown that such philosophy applied to medicine can lead to wide scale medical atrocities.
      The notorious Josef Mengele, a high-ranking medical doctor in the Germany Nazi government used the same rationalizations to justify horrific and atrocious experiments on concentration camp victims, who were killed and maimed as a result. The greater good of the health of the Aryan nation that was gained from the knowledge gathered from such experiments was considered far more important than those who were sacrificed.  These were sacrificed men, women and children who were considered "frivolous" and therefore expendable.
      What parents and observers may be witnessing in public health policy is a virulent strain of neo-mengelism taking hold when it comes to autism and other epidemics of chronic disorders. When parents are publicly reminded over and over again of the importance of the national inoculation program, while at the same time the growing evidence of science  --  and what parents have witnessed before their own eyes to the contrary is denied -- and their children labeled frivolous, the explanation is seen as little more than propaganda to be rejected.  The growing fear is that autism is a willful medical atrocity done at the hands of self-preserving public health neo-mengelists. In addition to having enormous motive and perfect opportunity to commit such crimes, they have no alibi, no alternate explanation for the autism epidemic, let alone admit that there is one. 
      To stop the alleged autism atrocities, parents and friends would have to bring to their downfall the neo-mengelists behind it.  Parents are doing this, albeit slowly.  They are raising money for research to get at the truth and treatment the government refuses to do.  They are getting laws passed to get mercury removed from vaccines, which the government also refused to do.  Parents have no other choice than to depend on themselves to protect their children from becoming public health and pharmaceutical industry fodder in the name of the greater good and corporate profit. Parents have no other choice than to depend on themselves to find ways to bring healing to those children already injured. As always, it is down to parents to be the final advocates for their children.

-Lenny Schafer