Dale and others,

This is only part of the problem. I can remember the Thursday night meetings we
had at the Bryant Community Center off Lake St in Minneapolis in the mid 1980's.
We would get 40 guys out to the meetings every time. Not everyone flew, not even
myself as this was before I built the Firestar. The interest was there and we
had camaraderie. It was all very good.

People can still go to meetings. It doesn't cost that much to go and learn from
others.

Over the years, attendance at the meetings has declined. I expected at least 10
people to show up at our Christmas Party yesterday. It was Laurie and I, Hugh
and Peggy. That was it! I was very disappointed and am now thinking about
disbanding MUA because of the lack of interest.

If people don't have the interest in light aviation, then either we need to find
new people, or stop beating our heads into the wall to get them out to meetings
and fly-in's.

I may disband MUA and start a new club for Light Sport flyers. We would have
regular fly-in's at airports only. Another thing I may try is talking to Kevin
Rebman, President of EAA Chapter 237 in Blaine, and see if I can start a Light
Sport branch of his club. They get a lot of pilots attending their meetings and
I don't quite know why. A great many of them don't fly at all. It must be the
love for large aircraft.

Ralph Burlingame
MUA President



--- In EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com, dale seitzer <dalemseitzer@...> wrote:
>
> Corky, What exactly are you saying?   The problem is not enough
interest?   I expect you hav more insight to offer.  What has happened in the
last 20 years in ultralight aviation?
> The good:  EGT guages, rotax (reliable) engines, gear reduction boxes,
composite props,  better planes, better materials, more ballitsic parachutes,
more training.
>
> The bad in the last 20 years:  Fewer places to fly because pilots were
irresponsible, rotax engines (yes both good and bad), the cost of flying has
exploded, equipment costs, hangar costs, training costs, plane expenses,
insurance costs, fuel and oil costs and more,  fewer instructors, 
>
> In the beginning ultralights were viewed as simple, easy, accessable for the
everyman.  Not so today--thats why the decline.
>
> Dale
>
> --- On Sun, 12/13/09, skypirate001@... <skypirate001@...> wrote:
>
> From: skypirate001@... <skypirate001@...>
> Subject: Re: [EAAUL66] Re: December 09 meeting
> To: EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:19 PM
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> Iam not a member but have been around the UL sport since 89 ..?? Well
> flying since 89 .. I've seen clubs go with the rules and then just the flyin
> stuff.. You can get hung up with he rules stuff,, Some just get fed up with
that
> .. It's like "show me the beef" meaning where's or when does the FUN start
> ..??Getting new blood into the sport is tuff.. ya need a two place and people
to
> train .. My idea on that is to train but no endorsements ..?? that's for
> the UL end of it .. Get'em trained and then go out and have fun .. If ya want
to
> go on to the GA stuff well there ya go ..Go for it in a different way ..
> but lots of rules .. The Bauer farm sounded GREAT...!!  to bad it had to
> end .. Kind of like our airpark ..  Lots of fun ..!!To bad you couldn't do
> something with the Cherry Grove bunch ..Up here it's to far for you guys.. But
I
> sure haven't seen much if any interest down there ..?? You are all welcome to
> come up and visit are bunch of flyin' maniacs ..?? That's my two cents worth
> ..HAPPY~NEW YEAR and  MERRY~CHRISTMAS too..
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Scott Blixt
>   To: Mike Schweim
>   Cc: Linda Tauber ; Jim
>   Benson ; Mark Scheurer ; Del
>   Voegele ; Don Nechville ; Dave Hermel ; Tim Bjork ;
>   Larry
>   olson ; Ray Seifert ; les
>   ; Tom Logan ; Mark Bauer ; Linus ;
>   John Klein ;
>   Marty Pegelow ; Richard
>   Pahl ; Bob Powell ; Paul Schultz ; Barrie
>   Wutschke ; Gary Ries ; Dave Crow ; Paul
>   Vandersyde ; Craig Skunberg ; EAAUL66@yahoogroups .com ; Mike Schweim
>   Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 4:52
>   PM
>   Subject: [EAAUL66] Re: December 09
>   meeting
>
>  
>
>   First off, my apoligies. I had posted to the yahoo group list a couple of
>   weeks ago that I would be late to the meeting because I was working until
2PM.
>   I had also asked everyone to make an attempt to make the meeting since it
>   would be our last one.
>
> I had expected a large group to be there today.
>
>
> But when I arrived at 2:50 PM, I found an empty meeting room and no
>   one from the club present
>
> I was originally kidding about this being the
>   last meeting. I had hoped my intentional typo would spur some attendance.
WIth
>   folks wondering what I had meant.
>
> Well, now, that seems kinda moot.
>   The thing is, our club has been sliding down hill the past couple of years.
I
>   suppose I could blame Sport Pilot like others have done. I really dont think
>   thats it though. I put alot of the blame on myself. As club president, Ive
>   tried to make things interesting. Tried putting some type of program or
bring
>   in a speaker. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didnt.
>
> The club has
>   always been informal. Mark Bauer started it up that way. And it worked for
>   many years. We all had such different view points on what we flew, and how
we
>   flew. I always thought thats what made us a good club. The hangar flying was
>   always good.
>
> Maby when we parted ways with Bauer is when it started? I
>   think we may have lost some folks when we started meeting at the airport. It
>   just wasnt the same as meeting out at the farm.
>
> We have always been
>   pretty spread out as membership goes. I think the guys from Albert Lea and
>   Sleepy Eye and New Ulm came the farthest. I think thats great and I thank
you
>   for coming all these years.
>
> And I know that none of us can make every
>   meeting. Work, play, & family all come first.
>
> Im sorry I couldnt
>   do a better job of making the meetings interesting enough to make you all
want
>   to be there every month. I have all of the same things that pull me in
>   different directions also.
>
> The club is, what it is. One person cant do
>   it alone. It takes a village. Sorry, stole that from a book. I know Ive
asked
>   all of you to contribute in anyway possible. Only a few took me up on that
>   one.
>
> I hate to end it. Ive made way too many friends with you all. I
>   look forward to seeing each and every one of you each month at our meetings.
>   And Ive been doing so since Mar 1993 when the club started
>
> So, I guess
>   it all boils down to the final question, now what?
>
> Im open to
>   suggestions
>
> The way it looks right now, its not looking too good for
>   our club to continue on it the way that it has
>
> Let me know guys. You
>   all have my Email address.
>
> And please, pass the word around to those
>   that are not on the email list
>
> Merry Christmas & Happy new
>   year
>
> Scott Blixt
> A Minnesota MadMan
> sblixt@means. net
>

First off, my apoligies. I had posted to the yahoo group list a couple of weeks
ago that I would be late to the meeting because I was working until 2PM.  I had
also asked everyone to make an attempt to make the meeting since it would be our
last one.

I had expected a large group to be there today.

But when I arrived at 2:50 PM, I found an empty meeting room and no one from the
club present

I was originally kidding about this being the last meeting. I had hoped my
intentional typo would spur some attendance. WIth folks wondering what I had
meant.

Well, now, that seems kinda moot. The thing is, our club has been sliding down
hill the past couple of years. I suppose I could blame Sport Pilot like others
have done. I really dont think thats it though. I put alot of the blame on
myself. As club president, Ive tried to make things interesting. Tried putting
some type of program or bring in a speaker. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it
didnt.

The club has always been informal. Mark Bauer started it up that way. And it
worked for many years.  We all had such different view points on what we flew,
and how we flew. I always thought thats what made us a good club. The hangar
flying was always good.

Maby when we parted ways with Bauer is when it started?  I think we may have
lost some folks when we started meeting at the airport. It just wasnt the same
as meeting out at the farm.

We have always been pretty spread out as membership goes. I think the guys from
Albert Lea and Sleepy Eye and New Ulm came the farthest. I think thats great and
I thank you for coming all these years.

And I know that none of us can make every meeting. Work, play, & family all come
first.

Im sorry I couldnt do a better job of making the meetings interesting enough to
make you all want to be there every month. I have all of the same things that
pull me in different directions also.


The club is, what it is. One person cant do it alone. It takes a village. Sorry,
stole that from a book. I know Ive asked all of you to contribute in anyway
possible. Only a few took me up on that one.

  I hate to end it. Ive made way too many friends with you all. I look forward to
seeing each and every one of you each month at our meetings.  And Ive been doing
so since Mar 1993 when the club started

So, I guess it all boils down to the final question, now what?


Im open to suggestions

The way it looks right now, its not looking too good for our club to continue on
it the way that it has


Let me know guys. You all have my Email address.


And please, pass the word around to those that are not on the email list


Merry Christmas & Happy new year


Scott Blixt
A Minnesota MadMan
sblixt@...

Hi all,
With winter here, some are thinking of winter flying.  If there is a Shopko near
you,
they have electic heated car seat covers on sale till Dec 23 for $13.49,
normally
$29.99.  It's powered by 12 volts, from a cigarette lighter.  2 temperature
levels.
Low is 16 watts, High is 40 watts.  Heating elements in the seat and backrest.
19"
wide, 43" long.  If it doesn't provide enough heat for flying while sitting on
it,
it's flexible enough to wrap around your chest, under your jacket, snowmobile
suit,
or coveralls.
I haven't tried it while flying yet, but I used it in my car.  It puts out
noticeable
heat on Low, Really warms up on High. Power cord is 4 ft. long.
Mike Schweim

Guys and Ladies,

Don't forget the Christmas Party tomorrow at Sarna's, 2pm.

Ralph

--- In MUA-EAAUL12@yahoogroups.com, "rstar447" <rstar447@...> wrote:
>
> Guys and ladies, I made reservations at Sarna's restaurant at 40th and
University for our Christmas party. It will be on Saturday December 12th at 2pm.
>
> Address:
>
> Sarna's Classic Grill
> 3939 University Ave.
> Columbia Heights
> 763-788-3939
>
> Everyone is invited. Bring your mistress, significant other, girlfriend, wife,
or all of them (if you can't afford any of these, just bring yourself).
>
> Ralph Burlingame
> MUA President

MN Lite Flyers News

President: Scott Blixt( sblixt@... ) (507)744-2613

Treasurer: Bob Powell ( ultralightbob@... )(952) 469-2789

Newsletter: Mike Schweim ( weedhopr@... )

Website: http://www.1rl.com/liteflyers

Yahoo group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EAAUL66

Club meets the second Sunday each month, 2pm at the Faribault Municipal Airport.

Membership is $10 per year, payable to “Lite Flyers” .

Send renewal to Bob Powell, 11774 205th St. W Lakeville, MN 55044

DECEMBER 2009

UPCOMING EVENTS:

Dec. 13 Lite Flyers meeting 2-4pm Faribault airport

November meeting:

We had 5 members in attendance. Del Voegel flew in with his FP404.

From the new EAA e-newsletter, Light Plane World: Good information for the
upcoming
winter

season!

Q. Over the winter I will not be flying for a couple of months. I have been told
that
every couple of weeks I

should start my two-cycle engine, warm it up, allow the oil to circulate over
the
bearings, and then shut it

down. Some people say I should also cover the intake and exhaust openings to
seal off
the engine.

A. This is a question that will bring different answers depending on whom you
ask. I
have learned from experience,

and it’s been confirmed by engine manufacturers, that this is really more
harmful
than helpful to your engine. The

problem is that when you heat up the engine and cool it down you are introducing
moisture into the engine. Also,

when you seal up the engine you are trapping in the moisture. Trapped moisture
in the
engine will lead to rust in

critical engine components, such as crankshaft ball bearings and connecting rod
roller bearings. Once rust is started

on these critical components failure is likely to follow.

If you are not going to operate the engine for an extended period, you should
fog the
engine with quality two-cycle

engine-fogging oil, typically sold in aerosol spray cans. Most engine
manufacturers
specify a procedure to follow. I

have found that it works best to remove the air filters, run the engine at a
fast
idle, spray the oil into each carburetor

for 10 seconds, and then shut down the engine. Remove the spark plugs and spray
the
fogging oil into each cylinder

for five seconds, ground the plugs and hand-prop the engine through several
times,
and then replace the plugs.

If I am using 100LL fuel, I am done. If I am using auto fuel, I will drain the
tank,
fuel lines, and carburetors. This

has worked for years without any issues. This way, I am assured that the
crankshaft
bearings, rings, and cylinders

are coated with oil through the winter months.

By Jim Leon, owner/operator of The Ultralight Place, an authorized FAA Part 145
repair station and independent

Rotax repair center.

HI Gang

Its been a great year. I was finally able to make the move to a 912 powered
trike. What a great machine! I couldnt be more pleased.

Im also thankful for the friendships that we have formed thru the club, and thru
our flying activities.

With that in mind, please make an effort to come to the Dec meeting. It will be
our last one.

Ill be an hour late as im working until 2PM that day. So I should bet there by
3pm.

Hope to see you all there.




Scott Blixt
A Minnesota MadMan
sblixt@...

Happy Turkey Day guys. I hope you all have a great day off with family and
friends






Scott Blixt
A Minnesota MadMan
sblixt@...

I need an RSVP to get an approximate count of the number of people who will be
attending the Christmas Party at Sarna's on Saturday December 12th at 2pm (see
below).

Please send an email to me at:

UL15@...
UL15(at)juno.com

Ralph Burlingame
MUA President

--- In MUA-EAAUL12@yahoogroups.com, "rstar447" <rstar447@...> wrote:
>
> Guys and ladies, I made reservations at Sarna's restaurant at 40th and
University for our Christmas party. It will be on Saturday December 12th at 2pm.
>
> Address:
>
> Sarna's Classic Grill
> 3939 University Ave.
> Columbia Heights
> 763-788-3939
>
> Everyone is invited. Bring your mistress, significant other, girlfriend, wife,
or all of them (if you can't afford any of these, just bring yourself).
>
> Ralph Burlingame
> MUA President
>

None of our members hangar there that I know of. So Im sorry to say, I have no
idea. I see they are in the process of building some new ones. You might have to
call the FBO to find out.  Let us know what you find out


Good Luck
'

On Nov 22, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Tim wrote:

> Is there any hanger space available at Faribault airport?
> If so, how much is monthly rent?
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
>
>







Scott Blixt
A Minnesota MadMan
sblixt@...

Is there any hanger space available at Faribault airport?
If so, how much is monthly rent?
Thanks,
Tim

Hi all,
I just uploaded a new Weedhopper flying video.  I got another 45 minutes of
flight
time Sunday afternoon, buzzing the local fields.  There is no sound yet, so for
now,
you'll have to just sing along as you watch :)
Mike Schweim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rxdo9qFius

Tim,

I bought a really nice 912 80hp Kolbra for 28K. You can get a 912 80hp aircraft
for 17K. Just have to look.

Ralph

--- In EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <nitehawk386@...> wrote:
>
> It has a Rotax 503.
>
> --- In EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com, "rstar447" <rstar447@> wrote:
> >
> > What kind of engine does it have?
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > --- In EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <nitehawk386@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What do you guys think of a new Challenger 2 with intercom, headsets, VHF
radio and electronic instrument display. It has 6 total hours on it.
> > > It's a long wing.
> > > Ready to fly, registered, for $20,000.
> > >
> > > Does this sound like a deal or not.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advice,
> > > Tim
> > >
> >
>

It has a Rotax 503.

--- In EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com, "rstar447" <rstar447@...> wrote:
>
> What kind of engine does it have?
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In EAAUL66@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <nitehawk386@> wrote:
> >
> > What do you guys think of a new Challenger 2 with intercom, headsets, VHF
radio and electronic instrument display. It has 6 total hours on it.
> > It's a long wing.
> > Ready to fly, registered, for $20,000.
> >
> > Does this sound like a deal or not.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice,
> > Tim
> >
>