hello all ,  hope to learn and trade info  and tricks....have a great day
....thanks for allowing me to join

Hello Distillers,
Last week I was in Melbourne Australia and found a beautiful shop full of EU
imported goods.

Included was some pallets of large glassware ex an explosive factory in
Victoria.

I am guessing the glassware was used on an industrial scale for column
distilling. Possibly made before stainless was commonplace.

The glassware was made by quickfit, which is still in operation. Some of these
parts are up to 500mm diameter and there is what I would describe as still heads
too. Other parts would be 75 to 100 mm diameter x 600 long if you were looking
to build a more practical small scale column still. Many other bits too
including glass stop cocks.

These parts were not cheap, but probably half the cost of getting them made.
Please contact "The Ugly Duckling" on +61 (0)3 9427 0123 at 194 Burnley St
Richmond VIC 3021.
regards
Hari.

I saw your post and thought Id mention something I learned years back.  I used
to work in a hydroponic store ( no I did not partake nor was I lazy lol)   but
we used to order a lot from scientific supply companies for essential oil
extraction equipment.

on one occasion a man came in wanting to sell a whole lot of used glassware,
this stuff is versatile and cleans up easy as its pyrex etc.

The point I think that would be most useful here is that most mining companies
have this equipment in spades as they use it for assaying the ore.  mostly the
use of reagents and acids to determine the content of the precious metals

we bought the entire lot for under $1000 canadian I believe and it was a HUGE
lot of distillation equipment specific gravity hydromitors of every shape and
size and more glassware than we could ever sell.   so keep an eye out for mining
company auctions and going tits up  you could score huge :)

cheers

:)

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "harisaki2004" <ledaswan@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Distillers,
> Last week I was in Melbourne Australia and found a beautiful shop full of EU
imported goods.
>
> Included was some pallets of large glassware ex an explosive factory in
Victoria.
>
> I am guessing the glassware was used on an industrial scale for column
distilling. Possibly made before stainless was commonplace.
>
> The glassware was made by quickfit, which is still in operation. Some of these
parts are up to 500mm diameter and there is what I would describe as still heads
too. Other parts would be 75 to 100 mm diameter x 600 long if you were looking
to build a more practical small scale column still. Many other bits too
including glass stop cocks.
>
> These parts were not cheap, but probably half the cost of getting them made.
> Please contact "The Ugly Duckling" on +61 (0)3 9427 0123 at 194 Burnley St
Richmond VIC 3021.
> regards
> Hari.
>

Im a brand new member but long time lurker of the site :)  I have some questions
for my own information and would love to discuss opinions with others :)

I was wondering if anyone has opinions on using a spent helium balloon tank as a
Still?

I happened across one and it caught my eye its about a 20lb tank BBQ size with a
small opening at the top about 5/8" copper pipe size.   I think it would work
awesome as the boiling flask, but I have been unable to come up with any
information as to how the tans are built and of what. the exterior is red the
type sold for parties to fill balloons, the inside is polished metal.  I dont
know if its coated with some chemical or if it will rust.

its my thoughts that even small amounts of rust will not effect anything
distilled as it would come out in the wash as it were lol.

Id love to hear what people think about this

Cheers :)

New technology to boost flavours?

http://tinyurl.com/7xgar2x

wal

For many years I have run an open wood fire under a pot still to produce brandy.
I would like to make this more efficient.

Web searches show many cognac stills housed within a rectanglar box built from
bricks. These were once wood fired, now with a gas burner that is more
controllable.
Does anyone have a design available of a fire box and brickwork to make a more
efficient design than my present rudimentary system?
regards
Hari.

Hi there to all stillers.  Whats everyone using as their neutral wash at
present.  Many neutral washes to choose from.  Just wanted to get the concensus
on what everyone thinks is the best Neutral Wash out there.
Regards
Patch

Alcotec 24 when available.

Slainte, Riku

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll" <peter.coleman20@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi there to all stillers.  Whats everyone using as their neutral wash at
present.  Many neutral washes to choose from.  Just wanted to get the concensus
on what everyone thinks is the best Neutral Wash out there.
> Regards
> Patch
>

Apparently the cream liqueur market is a bit sour.

http://www.bols.com/en-uk/products/bols-natural-yoghurt-liqueur/

wal

I was attempting to go to the Wiki database using the link the guy posted, which
I copied & pasted to my browse which took me to a site that says I must Activate
Web Access. Which has a block for me to enter the email address I used when I
registered, which I did & clicked enter & it just keeps coming back to the same
page.
Down below that it lists some more of my email addresses and it says:

Note: the following email addresses are also listed in your Yahoo! account but
are not subscribed to this group. To make additional subscriptions to the group
new_distillers with one of the following addresses, do not use the form on this
page. Instead, send a separate subscription request email from one of these
addresses to: new_distillers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Now, below that it lists the email address I used to register with this group.
So, I followed the instructions & separate subscription request email from my
PRIMARY email address to the address listed. I still haven't heard anything.

So I look at the Messages, I get cross eyed, because I AM a fairly new
distiller, and I am trying to learn stuff, but since I don't know how to word
the questions properly, for instance I am trying to find some definitions of
terms I keep coming across, such as rack, stack, stall. And would like to know
that if my mash stops fermenting too early is there a method used to restart it?
(If that is the right question?)
That's why I wanted to access the Database, thought I might search around there
a bit, and not have to clog up the messages with simple questions that should be
answered somewhere.

If you look at the bottom of this site you will see a web site <
homedistiller.org> . Click on it ,
you should get many of your questions answered there. You will also find
reference to other sites and good books on the subject .     Good luck.

Ion

Hi Guys, I am in the UK where there is not a great market for this type of
product at the moment, where could I buy a 2" (or 54mm) extension for my "water
purification" still?
I would like to get an extra two feet or so with a tri-clamp ferrule at each
end, I don't mind Stainless Steel or Copper, but I don't know where to look.
Any suggestions would be welcome.

Hi,
Try a winemaking supplier or stainless fabricator.  Hari.

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "made_it_myself" <doctorlawrencebrown@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys, I am in the UK where there is not a great market for this type of
product at the moment, where could I buy a 2" (or 54mm) extension for my "water
purification" still?
> I would like to get an extra two feet or so with a tri-clamp ferrule at each
end, I don't mind Stainless Steel or Copper, but I don't know where to look.
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
>

Google "54mm copper pipe" and you'll find lots of UK suppliers. I can recommend
www.bes.co.uk, but they only sell 3m lengths.

I bought stainless steel tri-clamp ferrules and clamps from a US website and
paid silly postage, but at the time I couldn't find a reasonable UK alternative.

I silver-soldered the stainless steel ferrules to the copper pipe with a
high-temperature (high silver) solder.  It's more or less like brazing, you can
do it with MAPP gas. Be sure to use a flux suitable for stainless steel.

Tri-clamp gaskets only last a few runs in my experience.  I bought a sheet of
nitrile rubber, I think 1.5mm thick, and cut my own now.

Good luck!

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "made_it_myself" <doctorlawrencebrown@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys, I am in the UK where there is not a great market for this type of
product at the moment, where could I buy a 2" (or 54mm) extension for my "water
purification" still?
> I would like to get an extra two feet or so with a tri-clamp ferrule at each
end, I don't mind Stainless Steel or Copper, but I don't know where to look.
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
>

Hi,
You could make your own by forming an "Easy Flange" at each end of a length of
54mm copper pipe and then source the clamps.

Or you could look at a StillDragon product here:-
http://www.stilldragon.com/triclamp-pipe.html

If you wish to take the latter route, you'll have to contact Fester and he'll
sell/supply/ship direct from China.

Shout if you need more links ;o)

HTH.



--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "made_it_myself" <doctorlawrencebrown@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys, I am in the UK where there is not a great market for this type of
product at the moment, where could I buy a 2" (or 54mm) extension for my "water
purification" still?
> I would like to get an extra two feet or so with a tri-clamp ferrule at each
end, I don't mind Stainless Steel or Copper, but I don't know where to look.
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
>

I don't have a problem getting the pipe, a local scrap yard gets it all the
time, my problem is with the ferrules.
I don't have the tools anymore to make them myself or to join the SS ones to my
column. Thats why I wanted to buy one.
I agree, the postage from the USA is silly expensive unless you can get it into
a flat rate box.

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "PhilipWilson" <pgw@...> wrote:
>
> Google "54mm copper pipe" and you'll find lots of UK suppliers. I can
recommend www.bes.co.uk, but they only sell 3m lengths.
>
> I bought stainless steel tri-clamp ferrules and clamps from a US website and
paid silly postage, but at the time I couldn't find a reasonable UK alternative.
>
> I silver-soldered the stainless steel ferrules to the copper pipe with a
high-temperature (high silver) solder.  It's more or less like brazing, you can
do it with MAPP gas. Be sure to use a flux suitable for stainless steel.
>
> Tri-clamp gaskets only last a few runs in my experience.  I bought a sheet of
nitrile rubber, I think 1.5mm thick, and cut my own now.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "made_it_myself" <doctorlawrencebrown@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys, I am in the UK where there is not a great market for this type of
product at the moment, where could I buy a 2" (or 54mm) extension for my "water
purification" still?
> > I would like to get an extra two feet or so with a tri-clamp ferrule at each
end, I don't mind Stainless Steel or Copper, but I don't know where to look.
> > Any suggestions would be welcome.
> >
>

Have used vodka star and is very clean I only got 400ml heads and 500ml tails
from a 25l wash, with a 74% of total alcohol as middles. If you're willing to
have a slight taste you could get more than this out of the vodka star with less
heads and tails. I reckon 80% good stuff from the total alcohol is possible with
very little after taste. Am going to push it further next time. Got the PDA1
with column extension take off at 600ml per hour.
Dave E
--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, frank prah <frankjprah@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can you tell me more about the MUM and JEM recipe?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank
>
>
> "Always laugh when you can.  It is cheap medicine."Lord Byron
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tgfoitwoods <zymurgybob@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Patch,
> >
> > I don't do lots of sugar washes, but the MUM wash works so well that I
> > have no desire to change it. The JEM wash sounds like it should be even
> > better, but I haven't felt the need to try it.
> >
> > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller *Making Fine
Spirits*<http://www.kelleybarts.com/zymurgy-bob-books/making-fine-spirits/>
> >
> >
> > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll" <peter.coleman20@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there to all stillers. Whats everyone using as their neutral wash at
> > present. Many neutral washes to choose from. Just wanted to get the
> > concensus on what everyone thinks is the best Neutral Wash out there.
> > > Regards
> > > Patch
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

HI Frank
Thanks for that.  Sorry but I do not like using turbos.  Vodka Star £2.88 
Allinsons Bread Yeast 64P per 125 grams works realy well.  Found a realy good
neutral recipe.
10kgs sugar
1 kg Malted Barley
2 Tspns Epsom Salts
125 grams bread yeast
50 ltrs water.
SG approx 1080
FG approx 0.990
Fermented out steadily in 7 days (realy impressed)
Still to run though.  Will keep you all posted.
Regards
Patch


--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "David Eastham" <planetgong0@...> wrote:
>
>
> Have used vodka star and is very clean I only got 400ml heads and 500ml tails
from a 25l wash, with a 74% of total alcohol as middles. If you're willing to
have a slight taste you could get more than this out of the vodka star with less
heads and tails. I reckon 80% good stuff from the total alcohol is possible with
very little after taste. Am going to push it further next time. Got the PDA1
with column extension take off at 600ml per hour.
> Dave E
> --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, frank prah <frankjprah@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can you tell me more about the MUM and JEM recipe?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > "Always laugh when you can.  It is cheap medicine."Lord Byron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tgfoitwoods <zymurgybob@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Patch,
> > >
> > > I don't do lots of sugar washes, but the MUM wash works so well that I
> > > have no desire to change it. The JEM wash sounds like it should be even
> > > better, but I haven't felt the need to try it.
> > >
> > > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller *Making Fine
Spirits*<http://www.kelleybarts.com/zymurgy-bob-books/making-fine-spirits/>
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll" <peter.coleman20@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi there to all stillers. Whats everyone using as their neutral wash at
> > > present. Many neutral washes to choose from. Just wanted to get the
> > > concensus on what everyone thinks is the best Neutral Wash out there.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Patch
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Let us know the % of good stuff u get from this,its what matters
Cheers dave E

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll" <peter.coleman20@...>
wrote:
>
> HI Frank
> Thanks for that.  Sorry but I do not like using turbos.  Vodka Star £2.88 
Allinsons Bread Yeast 64P per 125 grams works realy well.  Found a realy good
neutral recipe.
> 10kgs sugar
> 1 kg Malted Barley
> 2 Tspns Epsom Salts
> 125 grams bread yeast
> 50 ltrs water.
> SG approx 1080
> FG approx 0.990
> Fermented out steadily in 7 days (realy impressed)
> Still to run though.  Will keep you all posted.
> Regards
> Patch
>
>
> --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "David Eastham" <planetgong0@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Have used vodka star and is very clean I only got 400ml heads and 500ml
tails from a 25l wash, with a 74% of total alcohol as middles. If you're willing
to have a slight taste you could get more than this out of the vodka star with
less heads and tails. I reckon 80% good stuff from the total alcohol is possible
with very little after taste. Am going to push it further next time. Got the
PDA1 with column extension take off at 600ml per hour.
> > Dave E
> > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, frank prah <frankjprah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can you tell me more about the MUM and JEM recipe?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > > "Always laugh when you can.  It is cheap medicine."Lord Byron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tgfoitwoods <zymurgybob@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Patch,
> > > >
> > > > I don't do lots of sugar washes, but the MUM wash works so well that I
> > > > have no desire to change it. The JEM wash sounds like it should be even
> > > > better, but I haven't felt the need to try it.
> > > >
> > > > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller *Making Fine
Spirits*<http://www.kelleybarts.com/zymurgy-bob-books/making-fine-spirits/>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll" <peter.coleman20@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi there to all stillers. Whats everyone using as their neutral wash
at
> > > > present. Many neutral washes to choose from. Just wanted to get the
> > > > concensus on what everyone thinks is the best Neutral Wash out there.
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Patch
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "canadianguy236" <hawklinemfg@...> wrote:
>
> Hi group
> I just received my PDA-1 and would like to get started. I have a question that
you guys my be able to help me with. Can I/should I use a off the shelf beer
making kit? I would just like to get my feet wet and do some experimenting for
the first couple of runs. It only costs a few bucks so I thought this might be a
good way to start. Any help would be great.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
Hi would you please send me some pics,of the in side.  Of your still head, I
would like to buy one but only if is different to the one I have.  Thank you
John

Hi Dave
Stripped the wash on Monday.  Watered down to 40% got 16 litres.
Ran it in my VM still last night. 16 litres x 40% / 96% = approx 6660
Fores 150mls approx 2%
Heads 1000mls approx 15%
Mid 4700mls approx 71%
Lost 810mls approx 12%
Total 6660mls
Hope this helps.
Regards Patch

--- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "David Eastham" <planetgong0@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Let us know the % of good stuff u get from this,its what matters
> Cheers dave E
>
> --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll" <peter.coleman20@>
wrote:
> >
> > HI Frank
> > Thanks for that.  Sorry but I do not like using turbos.  Vodka Star £2.88 
Allinsons Bread Yeast 64P per 125 grams works realy well.  Found a realy good
neutral recipe.
> > 10kgs sugar
> > 1 kg Malted Barley
> > 2 Tspns Epsom Salts
> > 125 grams bread yeast
> > 50 ltrs water.
> > SG approx 1080
> > FG approx 0.990
> > Fermented out steadily in 7 days (realy impressed)
> > Still to run though.  Will keep you all posted.
> > Regards
> > Patch
> >
> >
> > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "David Eastham" <planetgong0@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Have used vodka star and is very clean I only got 400ml heads and 500ml
tails from a 25l wash, with a 74% of total alcohol as middles. If you're willing
to have a slight taste you could get more than this out of the vodka star with
less heads and tails. I reckon 80% good stuff from the total alcohol is possible
with very little after taste. Am going to push it further next time. Got the
PDA1 with column extension take off at 600ml per hour.
> > > Dave E
> > > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, frank prah <frankjprah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell me more about the MUM and JEM recipe?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Always laugh when you can.  It is cheap medicine."Lord Byron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM, tgfoitwoods <zymurgybob@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Patch,
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't do lots of sugar washes, but the MUM wash works so well that I
> > > > > have no desire to change it. The JEM wash sounds like it should be
even
> > > > > better, but I haven't felt the need to try it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller *Making Fine
Spirits*<http://www.kelleybarts.com/zymurgy-bob-books/making-fine-spirits/>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "thepatchworkdoll"
<peter.coleman20@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi there to all stillers. Whats everyone using as their neutral wash
at
> > > > > present. Many neutral washes to choose from. Just wanted to get the
> > > > > concensus on what everyone thinks is the best Neutral Wash out there.
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Patch
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Found a stockpile of wine from a local winery that had turned a bit sour. It's
probably about 14% ABV.  Thought I would just shoot for 90 to 95% or as pure as
can get, cut and age in oak. Know there are Brandy distillations but are there
any other special procedures I should do such as adjusting PH or ? Thanks for
any feedback.

-----Original Message-----
From: Distillers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Distillers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of uncleted101
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:59 PM
To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Distillers] Distilling "Bad" Cabernet

 

Found a stockpile of wine from a local winery that had turned a bit sour. It's probably about 14% ABV. Thought I would just shoot for 90 to 95% or as pure as can get, cut and age in oak. Know there are Brandy distillations but are there any other special procedures I should do such as adjusting PH or ? Thanks for any feedback.

Came across a bottle of a 45%abv herbal liqueur from Ivano-Frankivsk in Western
Ukraine called "Carpathian Balsam". It listed the ingredients which was useful -

Green walnuts
Cinnamon
Vanilla
Guilder rose berries (Virburnum opulus)
Black chokeberries (Aronia melanocarpa)
Rowan berries
St. Johns wort
Sweet clover (Melilot) (Melilotus officialis)
Oregano
Black currant leaves
Morello cherry leaves
Poplar buds
Caramel coloring
Honey
Sugar

So it is basically a Walnut liqueur (Nocino) with additional herbs, some of
which have a medicinal quality. Sweet clover contains a blood thinner and St
Johns wort is used as an anti-depressive. Black chokeberry is originally from
U.S.A.

wal