the turkish boat builder from my city responded me kindy and offered a generous help. he will tell me the addresses of stores where i can find necessary things...
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cihaz@...
Aug 1, 2001 8:48 am
i can not read the measures on the free plans' "sail options" page. transom, bow seat bulkhead measures are especially unreadable. and also what is the 4"...
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ozkal ozsoy
ozkal@...
Aug 1, 2001 9:18 am
i guess the problem of short standard plywood is lived by shawn too. he seems to add a small additional part in front of the side hull panel. i think i have to...
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Mike Saunders
no1likhim@...
Aug 1, 2001 10:15 am
Seems that picture is not accesible. I got the following message. Forbidden You do not have permission to get URL ...
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Mike Saunders
no1likhim@...
Aug 1, 2001 10:25 am
I think you are looking for the dimension of the height of the seat at that position? The seat is 14.5" at that posistion. It is located in the same forward...
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ARBarnhart@...
Aug 1, 2001 10:55 am
I did go ahead and run the seam horizontal. As noted in another post, this will give me a good spot for reefing, though it turns out to be a pretty major...
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ozkal ozsoy
ozkal@...
Aug 1, 2001 12:04 pm
the picture is the one in our group's picture album at yahoogroups. first one in the directory named "shannon's d4". our plywood dimensions are standard 220cm...
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ozkal ozsoy
ozkal@...
Aug 1, 2001 12:35 pm
i can not read the dimensions signed by red circles in the attached file. ... ==
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Chuck Leinweber
chuck@...
Aug 1, 2001 1:15 pm
Ozkal: I see two possible options: 1) make a joint to extend the panel length. My personal preference is the Payson tape joint. 2) reduce the size of the boat...
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ozkal ozsoy
ozkal@...
Aug 1, 2001 1:51 pm
the dimensions that i couldn't read are signed in red circles in the following file. http://boat.endtas.com/SAILOPT.PCX
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Lew Clayman
lew_clayman@...
Aug 1, 2001 4:06 pm
... Could be brittle, easily holed. Could be mofugly, too... -L ===== "Yo no soy marinero / Soy capitan" - Traditional Mexican Lyric (La Bamba) ===== ...
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Lew Clayman
lew_clayman@...
Aug 1, 2001 4:11 pm
... What's vizkween? -L ===== "Yo no soy marinero / Soy capitan" - Traditional Mexican Lyric (La Bamba) ===== ...
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shawnpayment@...
Aug 1, 2001 4:12 pm
Say hello to "Butt Blocks"... You can easily "build" panels any length you need. This is not normally req'd in a boat as small as a d-4 but no reason why it...
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Lew Clayman
lew_clayman@...
Aug 1, 2001 4:22 pm
... Some background: Standard ply sheets in US and (so I hear) UK are 4' x 8' ~= 122cm x 244cm so you'll understand that the designer probably thought that 7'2...
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shawnpayment@...
Aug 1, 2001 4:23 pm
Actually, I think you're looking at a piece of string and the shadow behind it... I used a single piece of ply for my sides... And If I was going to piece...
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Lew Clayman
lew_clayman@...
Aug 1, 2001 5:01 pm
... If you do this, reduce the cm by 8%. Reducing feet-inches-fractions by percentages... don't go there! It can't possibly be worth the trouble! -L ===== ...
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Lew Clayman
lew_clayman@...
Aug 1, 2001 5:01 pm
... If the drawings are to scale, you can measure directly. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. On the transom, I think the height of the transom above...
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shawnpayment@...
Aug 1, 2001 7:21 pm
I think Lew hit most of the measurements right on the mark... but aside from the fwd bulkhead measurements, most of the items you've identified are purely...
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Lew Clayman
lew_clayman@...
Aug 1, 2001 10:08 pm
... And even if the structural measurements are off by 1/4" (~6mm) because I read 3/8 instead of 5/8, I suspect that the boat will still work out ok. Might...
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Mike Saunders
no1likhim@...
Aug 2, 2001 1:03 am
I concur.......... Mike ... ===== Vaya Con Dios Amigos........... Dinghy Cruising - The Premier Group for Small Boaters ...
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Chuck Leinweber
chuck@...
Aug 2, 2001 1:59 am
Lew! You're no fun. What better way to become familiar with our wonderful system of measurement? Chuck...
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ARBarnhart@...
Aug 2, 2001 2:46 am
A dissenting voice... If you reduce the length, that is the only thing I would reduce. I absolutely wouldn't reduce the width and the height of the sides as ...
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Mike Saunders
no1likhim@...
Aug 2, 2001 2:57 am
... Here is where you have freedom to do what you desire. I made this part of my D4 as you are speaking. It ended up at a 6" width. You can modify this to ...
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Mike Saunders
no1likhim@...
Aug 2, 2001 2:58 am
... Ozkal......should you decide to scarf.....make the scarf or butt joint where it lines up with the mid seat position. It will be much stronger at that...
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Mike Saunders
no1likhim@...
Aug 2, 2001 3:01 am
... Oskal.......here is the linkhttp://www.bateau.com/tutorials/splices.htm This will enable you to get a strong joint. Mike ===== Vaya Con Dios...
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Chuck Leinweber
chuck@...
Aug 2, 2001 4:33 am
Andy: You're probably right. Reducing the length only would probably be better. Still, if one were thinking about making a joint, it might make sense to ...
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ozkal ozsoy
ozkal@...
Aug 2, 2001 5:45 am
that's a good idea to place the joint at the oarlock. thanks. By the way turkish boat builder friend has invited me to a weekend work of cutting, epoxying etc....
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ARBarnhart@...
Aug 2, 2001 12:08 pm
Good point. I did say "If I were going to reduce the length", meaning if he were not going to do a joint, I would think just reducing length is the best...
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ozkal ozsoy
ozkal@...
Aug 2, 2001 12:27 pm
where is the best place to put the joint? under the center seat or the point where the oars are connected to the hull. there is already one support in both of...
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Larry Adelberg
ladelberg@...
Aug 2, 2001 1:04 pm
Ozkal, We are all really happy to help you and the questions you are asking are good ones and I encourage you to continue to pose them. While we all have ...
