The more I compare them, the more I think that Watson's and Graham's translations outrank Mair's. The worst thing Mair does is delete the beautiful passage on...
Thomas
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Aug 1, 2001 6:15 pm
904
agreed. moreover, I think Watson's still "reads better" than Graham's. Graham is superior for textual analysis and knowledge of classical Chinese. Watson is...
KEYILIANG@...
Aug 2, 2001 4:26 pm
905
"Only the man of far reaching vision knows how to make them into one. So he has no use [for categories], but relegates all to the CONSTANT. The CONSTANT is the...
Thomas
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Aug 3, 2001 4:37 pm
906
To add something more favorable about Mair's translation, this is Chris Jochim's view in Ames' "Wandering at Ease in the Zhuangzi:" "In addition to being the...
Thomas
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Aug 4, 2001 9:18 am
907
Another saying on being ordinary (YONG) is: "Therefore, the sage endeavors to get rid of bewildering flamboyance. For this reason he does not use things...
Thomas
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Aug 4, 2001 10:33 am
908
"Penumbra said to Shadow, “A little while ago you were walking and now you’re standing still; a little while ago you were sitting and now you’re standing...
Thomas
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Aug 5, 2001 11:06 am
909
A pure delight: the humor of this meeting of Confucius and Laozi (Lao Tan) in chapter 13 of the Zhuangzi (there are 7 such Laozi/Confucius meetings in the...
Thomas
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Aug 5, 2001 2:15 pm
910
Of course he would not have called himself a Taoist which is a Han dynasty term for the Lao-Zhuang school, but what was the Tao to Zhuangzi? Here are the main...
Thomas
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Aug 6, 2001 8:05 am
911
"Once Chuang Chou dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn’t know he was...
Thomas
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Aug 6, 2001 8:00 pm
912
SOTAR at http://www.geocities.com/taoline The Tao Restoration Society has launched its challenge: The first international journal of Taoism delivered on-line...
SOTAR
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Aug 10, 2001 1:25 am
913
... I read that you consider Sotar to be a movement of philosophical Taoism. What is your opinion about the Taoist religion, founded around 200 CE, and that...
Thomas C
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Aug 10, 2001 8:16 am
914
This would be my view: Taoism as a religion was only founded around 150 CE. Lao-Chuang or philosophical Taoism had really existed for a least 500 years before ...
Thomas
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Aug 13, 2001 2:19 pm
915
News on Taoism at http://www.geocities.com/taoline Contact us at sotar@.... Thanks...
SOTAR
sotar@...
Aug 15, 2001 11:03 am
916
In approving some recent members, I note that there is also an interest in Jainism for some. Is there a particular link between Jainism and Daoism, or is it...
Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Aug 15, 2001 1:19 pm
917
Taoism experts and dabblers: As a "scientistically inclined" comparativist of civilizations, one might think that I would have little use for the Tao ...
Randy Groves
bebopguitar@...
Aug 16, 2001 6:37 pm
918
Could you explain what you mean by "rationlistically"? Do you mean utility, or do you mean analyzing by means of reason? Regards Douglas "When you speak with...
Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Aug 16, 2001 7:01 pm
919
An energetic man gets stuck into the task until its done. A lazy man says to himself there's gotta be an easier way to do this., then finds one Rgds Ken(...
ken potts
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Aug 17, 2001 2:34 am
920
Nice question, Surely the "best" place to look would be the _Zhuangzi_. Hui Shi / Huizi would fit somewhere in here, anyone else care to comment? The problem...
KEYILIANG@...
Aug 17, 2001 12:53 pm
921
FYI: Interesting study that deals with certain aspects of esoteric Daoism: _Guiguzi: On the Cosmological Axes of Chinese Persuasion._ Coyle, Daniel, PhD....
KEYILIANG@...
Aug 18, 2001 1:18 am
922
... My sense is that that is correct. However, I'm not pushing this approach as an interpretation of traditional Daoism, but sort of a "reconstruction". And I...
Randy Groves
bebopguitar@...
Aug 19, 2001 12:09 am
923
... De : "Randy Groves" <bebopguitar@...> ... Very interesting view! I tried replying to you a few days ago but my post bounced back and was...
Thomas
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Aug 19, 2001 8:56 am
924
... De : "Randy Groves" bebopguitar@... There ... The core value in Taoism is wu-wei, non-acting, i.e. non-assertive action (Hall & Ames' translation of...
Thomas
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Aug 20, 2001 7:55 am
925
Thomas: thanks for directing me to the Hansen (good for my other Com Civ purposes as well as the present question) and the Mohists. I've read some of that (Mo ...
Randy Groves
bebopguitar@...
Aug 21, 2001 12:05 am
926
"The secret of caring for life" is Watson's translation of the title of chapter 3 of the Zhuangzi (Chuang-tzu); Mair translates: "Essentials for nurturing...
Thomas
tc266@...
Aug 25, 2001 4:48 pm
927
"If you do good, stay away from fame. If you do evil, stay away from punishments. Follow the middle; go by what is constant, and you can stay in one piece,...
Thomas
tc266@...
Aug 26, 2001 10:56 am
928
... "If you do good, stay away from fame. If you do evil, stay away from punishments. Follow the middle; go by what is constant, and you can stay in one...
Thomas
tc266@...
Aug 26, 2001 1:46 pm
929
"Cook Ting was cutting up an ox for Lord Wen-hui. At every touch of his hand, every heave of his shoulder, every move of his feet, every thrust of his knee- ...
Thomas
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Aug 28, 2001 7:04 pm
930
Thomas: this is my all time favorite passage in Chinese religion and philosophy. I teach it in my classes if it is anywhere near appropriate. One connection I...
Randy Groves
bebopguitar@...
Aug 30, 2001 12:51 am
931
“A good cook changes his knife once a year-because he cuts. A mediocre cook changes his knife once a month-because he hacks. I’ve had this knife of mine...
Thomas
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Aug 31, 2001 8:31 am
932
"When His Honor Decorated Chariot saw the Right Instructor he was startled and said, 'Who is that man? Why is he so odd? Is it due to nature or to man?' ...
