Harold Roth (in his article "Early Daoist Mystical Praxis," in "Religious and Philosophical aspects of Laozi" edited by Csikszentimihalyi and Invanhoe) agrees...
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Thomas
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Jan 1, 2001 2:46 pm
Harold Roth, in Religious and Philosophical aspects of the Laozi, p.68 analyzes the meditation passage in chapter 6 in the Zhuangzi. It's got irony in it since...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 1, 2001 4:46 pm
While Roth is a fine scholar, and his "Inward Training" is excellent, he can be fuzzy at times. When he says Lafargue's "work is not without its problems"...
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Thomas
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Jan 1, 2001 10:07 pm
... De : "Douglas Henderson" <kueikutzu@...> À : <Daoist_Text_Symposium@egroups.com> Envoyé : lundi 1 janvier 2001 17:46 Objet :...
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Thomas
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Jan 2, 2001 2:38 pm
I got the review of LaFargue's translation at the university library and typed highlights of it on a new web page: ...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 2, 2001 3:52 pm
... and ... of ... makes no ... main ... philosophy in the ... Intersting, Chao-Yun Hsu is cited as a major influence, but I remember reading a rather scathing...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 2, 2001 4:15 pm
... and ... of ... makes no ... main ... philosophy in the ... Intersting, Chao-Yun Hsu is cited as a major influence, but I remember reading a rather scathing...
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George Henry
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Jan 2, 2001 6:57 pm
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Douglas Henderson wrote: <snip> ... in what period of time? see pages 2, 3 disputers of the tao....
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Thomas
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Jan 3, 2001 4:21 pm
I ran a Njstar search on SHI (a "knight/scribe" according to Henricks) in the DDJ, it comes up in: Chapter 15: The excellent SHI of ancient times penetrated...
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Jan 3, 2001 4:50 pm
Interesting, Thomas. Why shi4? (What 'sparked' your interest?) I glanced through my text, and I do not think shi4 in used in the WB ddj15 - probably just...
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Jan 3, 2001 4:52 pm
Thomas- I seldom use my NJStar WP. How does one do a search? -MLL ... Henricks) in ... officer, ... frequent in ... (dao), but is ... counsel...
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Thomas
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Jan 3, 2001 5:10 pm
... De : <mo4@...> ... LaFargues' view that the Laoists were Shi. ... Henricks mentions in his MWD translation that Shi in chapter 15 is in most ...
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Thomas
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Jan 3, 2001 5:13 pm
... De : <mo4@...> ... You set the input mode to pinyin at the bottom left of the screen, type the character in pinyin, select the right ideogram...
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mo4@...
Jan 3, 2001 9:04 pm
Did a quick scan of my ZZ file - 78 occurrences of shi4. Maybe HE'S the one to ask......
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Chad Hansen
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Jan 3, 2001 11:51 pm
I agree with Douglas. Roth is a fine scholar and a very nice man. He agrees with Lafarge in identifying Daoism broadly with the cluster of practices that we...
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Thomas
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Jan 4, 2001 7:25 am
Very interesting! Mark Csikszentmihalyi, in the same collection of articles that includes Harold Roth's pro-mysticism one, has an understanding closer to Chad...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 4, 2001 2:45 pm
... articles ... closer ... Laozi is ... classic. ... wrote a ... library. ... Aspects of ... LaFargue's. ... In message 156 in this forum I quote the...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 4, 2001 3:05 pm
BTW first, Roth was also quite cordial in answering questions about his work by email. What, though, are the purposes of quietism/self-cultivation in the DDJ ...
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Thomas
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Jan 4, 2001 7:35 pm
I have carefully and faithfully (because some expressions she uses are rather aggressive) translated, and added the core of Isabelle Robinet's review:...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 4, 2001 9:24 pm
Voltaire's "when you speak with me, define your terms," seems appropriate here. Can the DDJ be philosophical (and what does that mean) or...
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Jeff Rasmussen
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Jan 4, 2001 9:32 pm
Hello all, I thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Jeff Rasmussen. I'm a lapsed professor of psychology. I've enjoyed lurking on the list, and the...
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Thomas
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Jan 4, 2001 9:43 pm
Beautiful work! I wonder how you get those small ".gif's" of Chinese characters on your literal translation page. Thomas...
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Thomas
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Jan 4, 2001 9:53 pm
... THE toughest question! Here's a sentence (that I didn't include in my abridged version) by Robinet: "Let's note that the appeal to that "intimate presence"...
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Bradford
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Jan 5, 2001 4:14 am
Hi all Just a progress report. I have been Able to locate the Guo Qingfan full text and (lengthy) running commentary on all 33 Zhuangzi chapters. This is in...
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Jeff Rasmussen
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Jan 5, 2001 11:15 am
Thomas, Thanks! It was a while ago since I did them, but if I recall correctly, I got them from the NinjaStar wordprocessor. JR...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 5, 2001 7:13 pm
Found the following on the web http://www.skidmore.edu/~ndenzey/re103/password-only/re103schwartz.htm titled: The Thought of the Tao-te-ching by Benjamin...
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Thomas
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Jan 6, 2001 2:10 pm
Harold Roth makes comparisons of meditation practices in Dao De Jing chapter 10 and the "Inward Training" chapter 16 of the Gunazi, two text from about the...
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George Henry
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Jan 6, 2001 11:52 pm
... it seems to me that this is is peculiar to lao-ism as a sect or a school. in my period of just sitting one just "sat" and at first counted breaths. one was...
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Douglas Henderson
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Jan 7, 2001 2:03 am
I recently finished Mark Edward Lewis's "Writing and Authority in Early China (1999, SUNY Press, ISBN 0-7914-4114-8, paberback). I found it a brilliant work,...
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Thomas
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Jan 7, 2001 11:37 am
I'm thinking about the possible double nature of the Dao De Jing, mystical and philosophical. If I take DDJ 1: A way that can be named is not a constant way. I...