I'm beginning to think that LaFargue has missed the point of the Dao De Jing. He repeatedly writes that the Laoists chose yin qualities (softness...) and...
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Thomas
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Dec 3, 2000 3:55 am
In a chapter called 'Integration of Buddhism," Robinet gives a detailed explanation of how Tang dynasty (700 A.D.) Taoists came to understand the Dao De Jing...
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Thomas
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Dec 3, 2000 9:35 am
Buddhist logic is of an entirely new type: Indo-European (C. Hansen). It resembles Western logic in that it makes theories about the material, physical world....
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Thomas
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Dec 4, 2000 5:23 pm
I would suggest this personal view: 1) That ALL of Taoism is religious, from the shamans to Laozi, Zhuangzi, the Celestial Masters and on. I understand...
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Thomas
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Dec 4, 2000 6:19 pm
Just wanted to mention that I had cross-posted my attempt to understand Tang dynasty -Buddhist inspired- religious Daoist Daodejing metaphysics, and got a...
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Bradford
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Dec 4, 2000 11:01 pm
Hi all- Does anyone know where I might find a legible, typo-free edition of Zhuanzi? Either Chinese only or bilingual, and preferably with the Outer chapters....
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Thomas
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Dec 4, 2000 11:24 pm
Try: http://www.cnd.org/BIG5/Classics/Philosophers/Zhuang_Zi/ Probably not error-free, but it's the only one I've found. Thomas...
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bradford
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Dec 5, 2000 1:21 am
... Thanks, Thomas, I might use this in a pinch, but I'm looking for a couple of copies of a physical book, maybe one that's had enough editions that the typos...
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shirotsuru@...
Dec 5, 2000 5:39 am
In a message dated 12/04/2000 5:26:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... Try writing to China Books & Periodicals, Inc. 2929 24th Street San Francisco, CA 94110 ...
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shirotsuru@...
Dec 5, 2000 5:47 am
forgot to mention the URL www.chinabooks.com...
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Thomas
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Dec 6, 2000 9:22 pm
There is an interesting analysis of Chad Hansen's views by Julia Hardy, in Kohn & LaFargue's "Lao-tzu and the Tao-te-ching." (p. 179) "Chad Hansen expresses...
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Thomas
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Dec 7, 2000 6:07 am
DAO/WAY, as a guiding discourse: Laozi is reacting against prescriptive discourses of other schools of thought of his time: specifically the Confucians: to...
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Bradford
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Dec 7, 2000 7:42 am
Dear Thomas, I've been enjoying your one man thread immensely & have been wanting to come up to speed by reading all posts from "interpretng dao" onward, in...
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Thomas
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Dec 7, 2000 5:39 pm
To Chad Hansen, Laozi is an anarchist! He writes on p. 229 of A Daoist Theory of Chinese Thought: "What is the point then? What are we to do, Laozi? What...
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Thomas
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Dec 7, 2000 6:53 pm
Just wanted to correct my point about LaFargue. He does indeed see the nameless "unconceptualized state of mind" and the "evaluative naming" like: "soft (good)...
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Thomas
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Dec 7, 2000 8:07 pm
... De : "Bradford " <bradford@...> ... 9.1 Back from the *road* (Rutt) In returning, one follow the appropriate *Dao* (Lynn) 10.2 Stepping along...
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Ken Lee
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Dec 7, 2000 10:04 pm
Hello again, Thomas. You say: T ... Once the rabbit is caught, the snare is forgotten. Spending time 'perfecting the snare', ie. perfecting the (verbal)...
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Bradford
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Dec 7, 2000 11:28 pm
Hi Thomas- I guess I'm from an older school that believes that when a translation is finished the resultant text ought to make sense. As useful as context...
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George Henry
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Dec 7, 2000 11:50 pm
... not as elequent i'll borrow from another.. Chung-Ch'ang T'ung.... trans. Burton Watson Speaking My Mind The Great Way -- simple as it is, few spy out it's...
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Thomas
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Dec 8, 2000 7:57 am
I was wrong about saying in a recent post that M. LaFargue did not consider the question of the named dao of softness and yielding, and the nameless dao beyond...
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Douglas Henderson
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Dec 8, 2000 12:18 pm
A quick thought, partially in response to the below and partially something I've been wondering as I research the texts and the intellectual culture of the...
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Thomas
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Dec 8, 2000 3:42 pm
... De : "Douglas Henderson" <kueikutzu@...> ... Well the idea of grouping Laozi and Zhuangzi under the name "Daoist", as Graham explains on p. 171...
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Thomas
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Dec 8, 2000 4:28 pm
Tian has been misunderstood in the West! In "Thinking from the Han," (p.235) Hall & Ames have compared definitions of Tian in Chinese-English and...
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George Henry
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Dec 8, 2000 11:46 pm
... it seems to me that michael is describing the thought of an existing school while chad is describing 'ways'. what they are discusssing seems to me to be...
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Thomas
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Dec 9, 2000 8:25 am
LaFargue: "Being is born of nothing" (DDJ 40:2) "The Tao produced the One, One produced Two, Two produced Three, Three produced the thousands of things."...
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mo4@...
Dec 9, 2000 9:28 pm
"The Great Way of all beings" just appeared on the shelf at my local Barnes & Noble bookstore. I spent about half an hour with it and really look forward to...
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peter li'ir key
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Dec 10, 2000 9:21 am
... What is(are) the antecedent(s) of each use of "it" in DDC 4 in Chad Hansen's translation? peter li'ir key key@......
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Thomas
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Dec 10, 2000 9:52 am
... De : "peter li'ir key" <key@...> ... 4. Using Guidance http://www.hku.hk/philodep/courses/EWEthics/ttc.htm#4 "Guidance pours out but in using...
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OldHKU
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Dec 10, 2000 10:50 am
... Peter, You have me--I find that chapter quite puzzling and profound so I'm not sure how I will eventually decide to translate it. What I have now is:...
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Thomas
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Dec 10, 2000 11:26 am
So breaking out of norms, language, is perhaps impossible. It makes me think of the Zen koans, like: "What is the sound of a one hand clap?" A radical attempt...
