This is an interesting time in the study of early Chinese texts and of Daoist texts in particular. Dr. Henricks has published a translation of the Guodian...
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Thomas
trs236@...
Oct 26, 2000 11:43 am
Hi, Glad to be here at the inauguration party. I've just ordered the Guodian TTC by Robert Henricks from Amazon.co.uk, so I'll be there for the Guodian...
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kueikutzu@...
Oct 26, 2000 1:38 pm
As a courtesy to others on the list, when you join, a brief note of introduction may help, saying in brief who we are, our background, and why we are intested...
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mo4@...
Oct 26, 2000 6:12 pm
Drat! Just wrote an eloquent "glad to be here" post, and then turned on my NJStar Chinese IME... All gone. RDCV [Reader's Digest Condensed Version]: 1. KKT,...
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Ken Lee
doctornine@...
Oct 26, 2000 8:24 pm
Thank you, Doug, for the effort of maintaining a forum for this exploration. It has long surprised me that the West should be content to simply lump all East...
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Ken Lee
doctornine@...
Oct 26, 2000 8:51 pm
To echo you Doug... I am an amateur. My interest in East Asian culture is a product of obtaining two degrees in anthropology, with a varied subject matter,...
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peter li'ir key
key@...
Oct 26, 2000 10:53 pm
"You must fast!" said Confucius. "I will tell you what that means. Do you think it is easy to do anything while you have a mind? If you you do, Bright...
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kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 12:39 am
... individual ... in ... of ... It may take some time to go back through them but I seem to recollect something about this in my recent reading LaFargue Kohn?...
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kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 12:44 am
... This is one of the issues that the Guodian texts have raised, the whole issue of lineages and how the texts were composed. We have seen this earlier with...
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kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 1:00 am
These are just a few off the top of my head, please feel free to add. 1. Henricks translation of the Guodian texts Thomas I know has ordered his copy, so I...
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kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 1:09 am
This work has much meat and little gristle, even the parts that I am not so interested in (religious taoism). I picked up the paperback at Amazon for about 16...
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kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 1:14 am
This may be of interest to some here. Page 170 "Chuang-tzu is traditionally classes as the second great Taoist, after Lao-tzu, the supposed contemporary of ...
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mo4@...
Oct 27, 2000 12:53 pm
... ......>Sorry for being too playful. Since your post mentioned Greek, I thought you would catch the " kai ta loipa (and the others)" allusion......
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Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 1:11 pm
While Reading the first volume of W A Rickett's Guanzi (Princeton University Press, 1985) on page 218 I came across the following "Be diligent! Be diligent! ...
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Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Oct 27, 2000 5:09 pm
I just received notification from Amazon that my paperback edition of Before Confucius : Studies in the Creation of the Chinese Classics (Suny Series in...
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peter li'ir key
key@...
Oct 27, 2000 6:28 pm
... 1) A book belong to the Judeo-christian canons, Ecclesiastes seems rather out of place compared the other books of the canons. It tends to be full of...
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peter li'ir key
key@...
Oct 28, 2000 7:15 am
I've been reading Thoreau, and after making my other post I was thinking about translations. And came up with the following gedanken experiment. Setup: - The...
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Thomas
trs236@...
Oct 28, 2000 9:06 pm
... De : <kueikutzu@...> ... OK, let's see. Ellen Chen: "Heaven and earth are not humane (ren), They treat the ten thousand things as straw dogs. The...
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Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Oct 29, 2000 1:44 am
Some texts/works for possible future discussions Religious and Philosophical Aspect of the Laozi: M. Csikszentmihalyi and Ivanhoe, eds Thinking from the Han:...
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Thomas
trs236@...
Oct 29, 2000 6:01 am
... De : "Douglas Henderson" <kueikutzu@...> ... -I'm planning to read it- ... -Have read it: excellent, comparison of Western and Chinese...
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Thomas
trs236@...
Oct 29, 2000 6:48 am
About this Taoist/Daoist question: how to spell it? I see that in all recent books by scholars (like Chad Hansen) "Daoist - Daoism - Dao" are almost always...
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peter li'ir key
key@...
Oct 29, 2000 9:54 am
... "it does not matter what you call me. it is what i answer to that matters." "the tao that can be spoken is not the true tao." It is neither the pinyin nor...
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Wulf Dieterich
wulf.dieterich@...
Oct 29, 2000 9:57 am
Thomas---in Germany it is spelled/spoken Tao (Rüdenberg Stange for example). In China there are different pronunciations. The official pronunciation is the ...
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Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Oct 29, 2000 3:02 pm
... example). In ... is the ... dao4 . ... female ... countries finish ... one which ... dialect. this ... all recent ... almost ... it's now ... pronounced...
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Thomas
trs236@...
Oct 29, 2000 3:49 pm
... De : "Douglas Henderson" <kueikutzu@...> ... Yes. That 3d spelling "Common Alphabetic" was invented by prof. Bruce Brooks and I've never seen...
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peter li'ir key
key@...
Oct 29, 2000 9:03 pm
... I don't know much about pinyin's origin, but I thought pinyin was for Mandarin, not the Beijing dialect. Mandarin and the Beijing dialect are very similar,...
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Douglas Henderson
kueikutzu@...
Oct 29, 2000 9:32 pm
... Excellent points. In the soc.culture.entertainment.hongkong or asian.films ngs a while back there was a discussion about what is the "chinese" language,...
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Wulf Dieterich
wulf.dieterich@...
Oct 29, 2000 11:24 pm
One can read in Assimil "Learning Chinese" - german translation of the french edition: beijing dialect is the official language for china. beijing dialect is...
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Wulf Dieterich
wulf.dieterich@...
Oct 30, 2000 12:11 am
From: Encyclopædia Britannica Online: http://members.eb.com/ To cite this page: "Chinese languages" Encyclopædia Britannica Online. ...
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peter li'ir key
key@...
Oct 30, 2000 1:54 am
... Actually the Beijing dialect is a sub-dialect of Mandarin. Though they are often seem conflated. Though in this case the difference in dialect is close to...
