I just want to welcome all the new members that have joined this new study group. I hope we all can help each other with learning Dutch or English. I am sure...
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Lakota
lakota85usa@...
Aug 11, 2000 2:12 am
Welcome to everyone. I am one of the creators of this new group, so therefore, I will post the first message to get things started. I am wondering if anyone...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 12:19 pm
Hi, I just joined this group because I got a message from somebody which I took as an invitation. I'm a teacher in the Netherlands, working with adult...
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Andy Whittle
andy@...
Aug 11, 2000 1:00 pm
Dag Laila, I got the same invitation and I was hoping that it was going to be a simpler channel as my dutch is VERY simple. I am reading a self study book and...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 1:49 pm
Dag Andy, ... It's quite difficult learning a language by reading books alone. Mind you, I do have a British student in my class who has studied the same way...
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Lakota
lakota85usa@...
Aug 11, 2000 3:33 pm
Andy, You wrote: "I was hoping that it was going to be a simpler channel as my dutch is VERY simple" Please don't hesitate to ask any questions here in this...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 4:25 pm
Hi, I put two little zipped programs with the files at eGroups: http://www.egroups.nl/files/DUTCH-ENGLISH-STUDY-GROUP/Laila/ The first one consists of a simple...
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Urban Lindqvist
urban.lindqvist@...
Aug 11, 2000 5:35 pm
Hi, ik ben een beginneling, and I'm glad that this list is active. I've bought myself the "Learn Dutch Now" CD, and it seems quite good. I usually learn ...
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David Frank
dbfrank@...
Aug 11, 2000 5:59 pm
Urban, I have also wondered about the subtleties of v and w....especially when singing, "Ik heb mijn wagen vol geladen, vol met oude wijven" Met vriendelijke...
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Henry Pijffers
hpijffers@...
Aug 11, 2000 7:11 pm
Hi list, I've subscribed yesterday (or was it the day before that?), immediately after I received the notice on the other Dutch eGroup, but I haven't...
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Patricia Fewer
patfewer@...
Aug 11, 2000 7:39 pm
Hi everyone, My name is Pat and I am new to this list. I am originally from Newfoundland, Canada but have been living in The Netherlands now for 10 months. I...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:07 pm
Hi Urban, ... It's nice you've started! [...] ... He's right - but it's every day's practice and it's not as it should be. Kind of dialect. In Amsterdam for...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:12 pm
Hi David, ... As I wrote to Urban, you can put your teeth, tongue and lips in the same position for the 'w' as for the 'v'. It can be done otherwise too: - for...
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Henry Pijffers
hpijffers@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:14 pm
Hi Urban, You're right about the [v], it is sometimes pronounced as an [f], usually that happens when it's an initial v, like for example in _vrij_ (free). The...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:16 pm
Hi Pat, ... on ... English. ... I don't know where you live, of course. The place to attend relatively cheap lessons is at a ROC. That's a college for mostly ...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:22 pm
Hallo Henry, ... [f], ... in ... by ... Waar spreken ze de 'v' uit als 'm'? In Amsterdam spreken ze echt vaak een stemloze 'v', zeker initiaal. Groetjes, Laila...
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Henry Pijffers
hpijffers@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:29 pm
Hallo Laila, "emen" wordt gebruikt in 't oosten van 't land, waar ik woon. Zoals in "ku jij da nie em'n doen?" (kun jij dat niet even doen?). D'r wordt wel...
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Henry Pijffers
hpijffers@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:30 pm
Hi Laila, How do you pronounce the 'w' in Dutch, without the teeth??? Couldn't imagine how... I tried, but the only things coming out of my mouth are funny...
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dutchcapernsnl
dutchcapernsnl@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:46 pm
i am from glace bay nova scotia and been living in netherlands for three
years and having hard time with langusge as mostly i only talk my husband
all day...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:53 pm
Hallo Henry, ... doen?). ... Ja, maar dat 'emen' is toch echt geen AN (Algemeen Nederlands). Mensen uit het zuiden zullen vaak niet eens begrijpen wat 'emen' ...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:58 pm
Hallo Henry, ... doen?). ... Ja, maar dat 'emen' is toch echt geen AN (Algemeen Nederlands). Mensen uit het zuiden zullen vaak niet eens begrijpen wat 'emen' ...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:58 pm
Hallo Henry, ... Your tongue is resting. Probably against the lower teeth but without tension. Your lips are almost closed and certainly not 'round'. Open your...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:58 pm
Hallo Michelle, ... for three ... my husband ... It's difficult to learn a language like that. Do you speak Dutch with your husband? Groetjes, Laila...
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Henry Pijffers
hpijffers@...
Aug 11, 2000 9:06 pm
Hallo weer Laila, Klopt, het is geen algemeen Nederlands, maar 't komt WEL veel voor, dus 't is wel goed voor buitenlanders om te weten dat 't gewoon "even"...
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Evie Fieseler
EMFieseler@...
Aug 11, 2000 9:34 pm
... <snipje> Nee, nee, ik vind het nederlandse schrijven goed te lezen...maar ik zou messages in beide taalen beter vinden. Is dit possible? Ik ben Evie, en...
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Lakota
lakota85usa@...
Aug 11, 2000 9:57 pm
I just want to say thank you to everyone for the big response that this group has received in its first 24 hours of existence. I am one of the creators of this...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 10:44 pm
Hallo Evie, ... lezen...maar ik zou ... Dat is mogelijk maar soms is dat te veel werk. It's possible but sometimes it means too much work. ... aan ICQ te ... ...
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Urban Lindqvist
urban.lindqvist@...
Aug 11, 2000 10:45 pm
Hallo allemaal, thanks, Laila [as in the Finnish name Laila?] and Henry, for the info on /v/ and /w/ (as well as /f/ and /z/). This list is almost too active;...
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Laila Rosenberg
e.rosenberg@...
Aug 11, 2000 10:53 pm
Hallo Henry, ... Stemloos betekent in de fonetiek dat je stembanden niet meedoen. Het moet eigenlijk zijn: unvoiced/sharp/surd consonants. In tegenstelling tot...
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Henry Pijffers
hpijffers@...
Aug 11, 2000 10:56 pm
Weet je zeker dat d en g stemhebbend zijn? Ik kan die maken met m'n keel dicht, dus... Henry...
