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Hi Amy,
   As for me, everything just the same.Nothing special.I am not very busy for my work.I am looking for a part time job on the net.I have not find any one now.I intended to find a translate job.
   Hope i can gind one soon.
   Keep in touch.
Take care
yours
linda
 
 

ÔÚ2007-12-27£¬"zhiyu zhou" <amy_8410@...> дµÀ£º

Hey linda
Tks for your mail ,Happy New year .
These days i was very busy for my work ,I will be back for a few days .Realy miss my famliy
What about you
Everthing well ??
B/R
Amy

linda_linling <linda_linling@163.com> дµÀ£º
 
Hi Amy,
   Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.How are things going with you these days?
   How is your work? Will you go back to Changde this winter vacation?
                                                linda
                        
 
 

ÔÚ2007-09-06£¬"zhiyu zhou" <amy_8410@yahoo.com.cn> дµÀ£º
Hey linda,
 Glad to hear from you !
I am working in Hui zhou city .It is close to ShenZhen. I also work as an interpreter in our company .But may be i will change the job now to an oil company some day!  My company is specilize in plastic products ,and our most  business are doing with IKAE ,The TOP 500 Enterprise in the world .
I was born in changde ,i graduated from HUNan university of Arts and Scinece,which locted in Changde city.I also just graduated a few month ago !
HAHA,is that all ?
Well,Really nice to talk with you ,thanks for your reply.
Keep in touch!
yours amy!

linda_linling <linda_linling@163.com> дµÀ£º
 
Hi Amy,
   I am very glad to receive your letter.First, i will briefly introduce myself.
   I am working in Langfang city, not very far from Beijing. I work as a interpreter in Langfang Greentsing Pipeline Technology Co.,Ltd. langfang is a pipeline city, China Pertroleum Pipeline Bureau is located in this city.
   I was born in Yueyang city, Hunan. I came here(langfang) in 2003 for college.I graduated from Langfang Techers' College this year, i.e. just a few month ago.
   I forgot to tell you that our company is engaging in producing pipeline pigging(cleaning) equipments.
   OK, could you tell me something about you?
   Thanks.
yours Linda
 
 
 

ÔÚ2007-09-05£¬"zhiyu zhou" <amy_8410@yahoo.com.cn> дµÀ£º
HI,Linda:
 
I don't know who you are ,but from your letter i know you are working in an oil company as a translater ,as i am going to an oil company too.so may be my work is the same with you.so may i know something about your work?which company are you in? where are you? i want to be friends with you ,hope you will not refuse . i think if we talk to each otherabout our work staff,it may help our work ? what do you think ?
Looking forward to your early reply.
TKS!
Amy

Ke Dawei <trouts2@gmail.com> дµÀ£º
Hi Linda,
   Context gives different meanings to words so is important for understanding just what is going on. I'm not sure if the issue is your reading this and unsure understanding what it means or writing the sentence and unsure if it expresses exactly what you want.
   Also, it took me a few readings to figure out what this was about until I remembered that you were working with oil transmission line cleaning devices [pipeline pigging] so it referrer's to an oil line.

   I think the sentence is ok as is but without a context and also not knowing the industry specific terminology usage I'm not 100 percent sure. For example I'm was not sure what a "static head" in this context referred to so had to look it up. I knew "head" from a water head as used in dam head, well head or a head of water. It refers to the amount of pressure of water going over a dam.
I think here "static head" would be defined by:
Static Head
The hydraulic pressure at a point in a fluid when the liquid is at rest.

   This place gives some definition to the terms with a visual example:
http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/techinfo.asp?htmlfile=PumpInstallation.htm&ID=619

   I guess if I can explain what I think is going on then I understand it all and the sentence is ok.
Oil traveling in a line has air pockets and they accumulate at a high point in the line.

The pockets of air stop the siphon effect.

   The next part I'm not sure about. It may be that oil traveling in a line is in columns; that is that may be a long section of oil and a small section of air. There may be many of these.
   The traveling sections of oil are referred to as columns. When a few of these columns get to a high point in the line the oil continues but the air is trapped at the top of the line.
   The first column of oil will continue. The second column passes over the high point but it's air pocket stays at the top. The second oil column continues on and flows into the first column making a larger column of oil. That larger column of oil will have a bigger force going down a mountain side so a larger "static head".
Some minor things:

In mountainous regions particularly,where there are significant variations in the elevation of the line,

In mountainous regions, particularly where there are significant variations in the elevation of the line,

Addtive to Additive.

   Overall I think the sentence is ok but a lot depends on the full article. I think someone in the industry would not have a problem with the sentence. But I'll copy a few friends who are engineers and pretty clever to see if they have any comments

¿Â´óΰ
Ke Dawei
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DLChina
www.kedawei.com




On 8/28/07, linda_linling <linda_linling@163.com> wrote:
Hi David,
    I need your help.Could you please kindly interpret the following sentences for me.Thanks a lot.
  
    In mountainous regions particularly,where there are significant variations in the elevation of the line, any air trapped at the high points will eliminate the syphon effect and cause the static heads of the individual liquid columns which are thus created to become addtive.
 
    i am confused about the sentence structure.
    Kindly reply at your earliest convenience.
    I await a good news with patience.
Thanks.
Linda
 
 
 
 

ÔÚ2007-08-23£¬"Ke Dawei" < trouts2@gmail.com> дµÀ£º
Hi Linda,
   Are there any specific Chinese names for the house type at Zhang Gu Ying? If you know and common terms in hanzi please let me know them along with the pinyin.
   It's hard to come up with a proper English term to refer to this type of house. I refer to them as a "building complex" in English but unsure what words the Chinese use. What words would you use in Chinese if you were talking to a friend and did not want them to confuse what you were talking about with a simple single family house?
   There is the term siheyuan to refer to a house type which is usually four buildings arranged in a square with a courtyard in the center. Hutong seems to imply more of an alley way between siheyuan or many siheyuan around. But both of these do not really describe they house larger house type with many families.
   I'm in America now but hope to return to China and see more citang and building complexes. It would be great to have you as a guide. When I visit these places I want to ask many questions but it's impossible. The few times I had a translator getting information was very difficult. The old people were the ones I wanted to talk with because they knew many things about the buildings and traditions. They would usually have a dialect and be very difficult for my translator to understand.
   Zhang Gu Ying is the only village I know about that has been preserved in Hubei and Hunan. I have read on the net that in Jiangsu province there are 60 that are preserved but unsure if they are exactly like the Zhang Gu Ying buildings.
   There are quite a few in south east Hubei but they are over time being abandoned for more modern houses. Often they are torn down and the stones used to build modern houses close by.
   Well, we'll see when I get a chance to return. It may not be for quite a while but it would be great to have you as a guide.
Take care,
¿Â´óΰ
Ke Dawei
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DLChina
www.kedawei.com


On 8/21/07, linda_linling < linda_linling@163.com> wrote:
 
Hi David,
   To my greatest regret that I have not been to Zhang Gu Ying village.Acturally some of my high school classmate cames from that village.I have seen some picture which she bring to me.It is a charming place in deed.
   Maybe the sctudents are overload with their study in high school in China,i have not gone any place to travell in middle school and high school. Another reason maybe that i always live in Yue Yang city ,so it is not very convenient for me to go to the village.
   Since i have entered university in northern part of China ,i have been to many place for travell,e.g Guangxi Gui Lin, Nan yue Heng Shan, Shanghai, Su Zhou,Ning Bo,Bei Jing.
    I like Su Zhou,Heng Shan and Gui Lin the most,I would like to visit for a second time.
    If you have time,i Would like to show you to Zhang Gu Ying Cun.
    I usually go home in the spring festibal vacation,would that convenient for you? Maybe two or more years later I would go back to my hometown and work as a teacher.But now,i am enjoy with my interpret job.
    Now i am work hard to adapt myself to the new environment.Wht a pity that i have no summer vacation now.
Take care.
Linda
 

ÔÚ2007-08-21£¬"Ke Dawei" <trouts2@gmail.com> дµÀ£º
Hi Linda,
   Everyone is too busy to be very formal reading and writing email especially in English so mistakes are expected and ok.
   Citang were about the most interesting thing I saw in China. I visited at lest 50. Some were in decay and others being lavishly rebuilt.
   Things are changing very rapidly in China. It will be tough to preserve the full traditions of the citang and especially the buildings. When a village reconstructs and saves the citang it ends up as a single building, tall and thin.
   For families that have broken up and no citang there is a new alternative for the family alter. You can have your family citang as a website with options for how it look and even submit pictures for the website. It's option for people living in city apartments.
   You're from YueYang. I wonder if you ever visited Zhang Gu Ying Cun? The villagers have preserved the old style big house type there and I'm sure there's a citang at the center of the building complex. I always wanted to visit the place but never got the chance. By the way I did visit YueYang.
Take care,
¿Â´óΰ
Ke Dawei
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DLChina
www.kedawei.com


On 8/21/07, linda_linling < linda_linling@163.com> wrote:
 
Hi Daivd,
   Glad to receive your letter again.I also goofed, I should have guess the meaning,maybe i was too busy with my daily grind.
   Citang is another old tradition in China.Citang is a kind of family temple.It is used to sacrifice the ancestors.Shaikh is the head of Citang.He hai the right to punish the clansman if the clansman disobey the rules.
   Citang is a symbol of a family,So it is often very gorgeous.The richer the family,the greater the Citang would built.But now Citang is downfall.
   Other family memember are not allowed to go to the Citang,even the women and children are also not allowed to.Because women are subordinate to man in the old days of China.Now women's economic independence has promoted their status in the family.It is another reason that Citang has gone to its end.
   Hope you  can understand what i said.
I often make some grammar mistakes,if it is very serious please kindly correct it for me.
Thanks and Best ragards.
yours linda
 

ÔÚ2007-08-21£¬"Ke Dawei" < trouts2@gmail.com> дµÀ£º
Hi Linda,
   I goofed. Alter, to change something, is a misspelling of altar. Altar is a place (like a table) for religious ceremonies. My spelling is not so good. I need a smarter spellchecker. The other day I goofed up principle with principal. If I studied as hard as my students I'd be a better speller.
  
   I was just joking when I said 5 wives would be ok. It's one in America. There was a religious sect, the Mormons, that used to encourage many wives but they stopped that practice years ago, 1860's, when it became illegal. It was condemned as a form of slavery but most of the Mormon women thought it normal.
¿Â´óΰ
Ke Dawei
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On 8/20/07, linda_linling < linda_linling@163.com> wrote:
 
Hi David,
    In China, we all take the Artical 29 as granted.There is no need for a law to restrict it.Old brother or sister has the responsibility to support the family.We had an old saying that goes"old brother is father"(³¤ÐÖΪ¸¸£©.Maybe because there are many children in the old days in China, the parents are very old when the little baby came into the world.So the old brother should shoulder the responsibility.We can not let the old parents to do heavy things to earning living.
    Chinese place a lot of value on emotion. Most of our family are close-knit family,we share happiness and woe.That is the way we live,it is a common practice all the ages.
    May it is more freedon is USA.It depends on the tradition.
    I am not very clear about the "alter",what does that mean?
    And the last sentence,do you mean that in America a man is allow to have 5 wives?
    Thanks for your quick reply
Take care
Linda
 
 
 

ÔÚ2007-08-17£¬"Ke Dawei" <trouts2@gmail.com > дµÀ£º
Hi Linda,
   The arrangement certainly had a cultural basis but I always wondered if it was law. What a huge cultural different between America and China. Your reference to the law let me google for the laws about marriage which are interesting. There's another related part about this in article 29:

   Article 29 Capable elder brothers and sisters shall be under the obligation of supporting their younger brothers and sisters whose parents have deceased or whose parents are incapable of supporting them. The younger brothers and sisters who have been brought up by the elder brothers and sisters shall be under the obligation of supporting their elder brothers and sisters who are without labor capabilities and without sources of living aliments.

  There's another for the relationship between grandparents and grandchildren similar to article 29. These laws are codifying cultural practice and for Chinese I'm sure would seem perfectly normal.

   Article 9 is a surprise.

   Article 9 Having gone through the registration procedures, the woman may become a member of the family of the man and the man may also become a member of the family of the woman, whatever is agreed upon by both parties.

   In the US the tradition is both people are welcomed into each other's families but it's informal and no law applies.
   For a Chinese person reading article 9 they would know what the law means but I'm not sure what might happen with this law. For example if a women joins a man's family I know that traditionally some of the expectations about her behavior. But in law if she joins are there things that now apply to her in law?
   I thought that women always joined a man's family and never knew a man might join a women's family.

   One time at a village south of Huangshi I was visiting a family's citang. A girl from the school came with me to translate for me because she knew the local dialect. We walked around and eventually entered into through the gate to the alter section. A number of villages were there and they were very friendly but when we both entered the alter part some of the men asked her to come out of the alter area. They said women were not allowed into the alter part.
   It was a bit strange. I think it might be an older tradition that some villages still keep as a practice. But it was strange because I had read that it was a women's job to burn incense at the alter and take care of some other offerings on behalf of the family. The obviously would have to enter past the gate and into the alter part to do that. ??

  Well, America also has a one wife policy. A man should not have many wives but maybe five would be ok.
Take care and thanks for the information,
David



On 8/16/07, linda_linling <linda_linling@163.com> wrote:
Hello David,
I have been read your letters.It is very interesting.In china ,we hold one-child policy.
According to our Marriage Law,Chapter three Article 21 :
   Parents have the duty to rear and educate their minor children, and children who have come of age have the duty to support and assist their parents.
    When the parents refuseed to do so, if the minor children can not support himself/herself,then the children have the right to claim the alimony.
    When the children refused to do so, if the old parents have difficulty in sopport himself/herself,then the parents have the right to claim the alimony.
 
In my opinion,it is a sound policy.If we only use moral principles and norms,a lot of people will neglect it.
In addition, I think a man must not have many wives, it is extremely unfair compaired to women.
That just my personal opinion.
Take care David
yours Linda
 


ÔÚ2007-08-13£¬"Ke Dawei" < trouts2@gmail.com> дµÀ£º

At least according to a person from Ghana.

The other day I was talking with a lady from Ghana and asked her
how big her family was. She said she had 46 brothers and sisters and
that her farther had many wives. In Ghana it's ok for a man to have
many wives. It seemed very difficult for him to support all of them
so I asked about the detail.

The wives usually live in different places. The wife's brother is
responsible for supporting her children not the farther of her
children. He has to clothe and feed them and should pay for their
education. It seemed very odd that brothers of sisters are
responsible for her children.

In her case the mother did not have brothers so there was no uncle
(mothers brother) to support the children. She said when she was
young she had to wash three cars every morning to earn 5 cents to pay
for the bus to school, lunch and a little left over for a snack. When
she got older her grandmother helped pay for her university costs. In
Ghana it is common for a grandmother to help out if there is no uncle
to support the family.

At university she studied to be an accountant and worked in Ghana
as an account for many years. She then decided to travel and lived in
England for 4 years, then Germany for 8 years and finally her in the
US for 5 years. During her travels she has gotten help from many of
her 46 brothers and sisters from bigger family. They also have
traveled to many countries, work and all help each other. A few of
her brothers are here in America. Evidently their system works as
they started out from a poor family but today most of them are doing
very well.

She speaks English, German and her native language and is an
interesting person to talk with. I've been helping her collect second
hand bicycles for her to ship back to Ghana. She wants to fill up a
big shipping container full of bicycles and send it back to Ghana.

I asked her about the law concerning the support of the children
and she said there were no laws covering these things in Ghana. It
made me think of a case in Shanghai. A mother sued a son in court
because the son was not supporting is old mother. She won the case
and the judge ordered the son to support the mother. I never knew
about this type of thing in law before. I know it's the Chinese
custom but unsure about any of this in Chinese law. Judges in any
country are very powerful and powerful enough to bend the law a little
when they want. Do any of you know about any laws for children to
support parents?

In the old Chinese system there were concubines. Who supported the
children from each wife? I never gave it much thought and assumed the
one husband was responsible for all wives but that may not be true. I
thought they all lived in a big compound or huge single family
structure so usually stayed together as a family.
I think that's the way it was even if things got very large and the
reason so many villages have all the people living there have the same
last family name. I visited many places where everyone had the same
last name which for an American is very odd.

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Hi Amy, As for me, everything just the same.Nothing special.I am not very busy for my work.I am looking for a part time job on the net.I have not find any one...
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