Iam afraid there is no such thing in Czech. I would probably go for
something like 'posudkovy/revizni lekar imigracniho uradu'.

HTH
Martin

Dne 13.2.2013 14:04, Helena Šubrtová napsal(a):
>
> I know, but I wonder what is "civil surgeon" in Czech.
> H.
>
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> Od: James Kirchner czechlist@...
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> Datum: 13. 2. 2013
> Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] help ENG-CES civil surgeon
>
> "
>
>
> It's a little more complicated than that:
>
> http://www.health.ri.gov/healthcare/refugee/about/terms/
> (http://www.health.ri.gov/healthcare/refugee/about/terms/)
>
> > Civil Surgeon means a physician approved by the Immigration and
> Naturalization Service district office to conduct the medical
> examinations
> of applicants for adjustment of status, or other aliens referred by the
> Immigration and Naturalization Service.
>
> Jamie
>
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Helena Subrtova wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello everybody
> >
> > I would like to ask whether "civil surgeon" = physician
> >
> > (in Czechl: lekar)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Helena
> >
> >
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>

Diky vsem, pouzila jsem embankment and quayside

Sarka

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Or I could work "livelihood" in.

BR

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--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Melvyn"  wrote:
>
> Toto ustanoveni umoznilo ,,suchou cestou", prakticky bez jakehokoliv
oduvodneni, vyhnat z  Akademie a zbavit moznosti dalsi vedecke prace stovky
politicky nepohodlnych vedcu a na dalsi stovky vyvinout tezko snesitelny
psychicky a existencni natlak formou neustaleho sjednavani novych pracovnich
smluv na velmi kratke casove useky.
>
> If I can work in ideas like 'job security' or 'subsistence concerns' then I am
usually pleased enough, but in this context I am having difficulty. Any
inspiration?
>
> BR
>
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Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?

Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni firmu
- nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
spolecnost..

Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez jsem
z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to moc
neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec jsem
jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic v
dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace byt
taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s EU to
vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
formular to ani nevezme)...

Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze ma
problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
najednou neni platne (predtim bylo)..

Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o jejich
"spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' - vic
jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo, ale
co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich ucetnimi a
nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not able to
do it by now.'

Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te platby/faktury
'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom maji
Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC mela,
byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).

Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze jej
zaplati..

Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band ktery
neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou francouzskou
'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec jsem
zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine Dixmeier,
mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
nakonec zacaloval sam..)

Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?

Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je s tim
spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec musi byt
potrestan..

Dik

M


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Ze stranek VIES [sic!]:

---
Q13 : Jak mam postupovat, pokud se DIC pro ucely DPH meho obchodniho
partnera zobrazuje jako neplatne?

Webove stranky Evropske komise funguji na principu overovani platnosti
DIC na zaklade informaci ziskanych z databazich jednotlivych clenskych
zemi. Pokud se DIC vaseho obchodniho partnera zobrazuje jako neplatne,
mel by jste se obratit na jeho spravce dane.
---

Takze bych zkusil kontaktovat spanelsky financak (ale nedelam si iluze,
ze to bude jednoduche).

Pepa

On 14.2.2013 14:47, "Matej Klimes" wrote:
> Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?
>
> Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni firmu
> - nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
> celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
> spolecnost..
>
> Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez jsem
> z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to moc
> neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec jsem
> jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic v
> dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace byt
> taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s EU to
> vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
> formular to ani nevezme)...
>
> Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze ma
> problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
> najednou neni platne (predtim bylo)..
>
> Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o jejich
> "spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' - vic
> jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo, ale
> co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich ucetnimi a
> nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
> complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not able to
> do it by now.'
>
> Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te platby/faktury
> 'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom maji
> Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
> ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC mela,
> byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).
>
> Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze jej
> zaplati..
>
> Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band ktery
> neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou francouzskou
> 'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec jsem
> zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
> normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine Dixmeier,
> mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
> nakonec zacaloval sam..)
>
> Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?
>
> Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je s tim
> spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec musi byt
> potrestan..
>
> Dik
>
> M
>
>
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Takze bych zkusil kontaktovat spanelsky financak (ale nedelam si iluze,
ze to bude jednoduche).
:) No zkusit to muzu :) ... spis jako vystrahu pro ne, protoze jestli
tu fakturu maj v ucetnictvi vykazanou v DPH - coz snad musi - tak by s
tim meli problem... zkusim jim trochu pohrozit, plus promluvit primo s
jejich ucetnimi, jestli se k nim dostanu.. a uvidime, jenze moje ucetni
mi kvuli tomu dost dycha na krk..

Je to zvlastni... z hlediska prava jsem jim mel fakturovat s DPH, kdyz
nemaji platne VAT reg no., ale pokud obchoduji s EU musi byt k DPH
zaregistrovani, taky jsou, akorat v tom maji nejaky bordel.. nehlede na
fakt, ze jsem to tenkrat nemohl vedet nevim, jak se tomu vyhnout..
ksefty vzdycky spechaji, novy klient, jednani o cene... na overovani
VAT pred prijetim prace rozhodne neni cas (a vzhledem k tomu, jak
dlouho jim obycejne trva VAT no zjistit, by to ani neslo), navic
kdybych jim zacal naznacovat, ze jim budu uctovat VAT pokud mi nedaji
platnou registraci, tak se na me s tim kseftem vy... vite co...

Asi jediny zpusob je udelat tu praci, co nejrychleji od nich vymamit
VAT no a overit jej a pokud se nepovede vymamit platne, tak to rovnou
fakturovat jako bokovku... ale tady bylo puvodne vsechno v poradku a
ten pruser se projevil az dodatecne..

M



On 14.2.2013 14:47, "Matej Klimes" wrote:
  > Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?
  >
  > Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni firmu
  > - nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
  > celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
  > spolecnost..
  >
  > Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez jsem
  > z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to moc
  > neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec jsem
  > jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic v
  > dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace byt
  > taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s EU
to
  > vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
  > formular to ani nevezme)...
  >
  > Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze ma
  > problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
  > najednou neni platne (predtim bylo)..
  >
  > Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o jejich
  > "spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' - vic
  > jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo, ale
  > co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich ucetnimi a
  > nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
  > complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not able to
  > do it by now.'
  >
  > Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te platby/faktury
  > 'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom maji
  > Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
  > ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC mela,
  > byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).
  >
  > Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze jej
  > zaplati..
  >
  > Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band ktery
  > neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou
francouzskou
  > 'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec jsem
  > zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
  > normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine Dixmeier,
  > mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
  > nakonec zacaloval sam..)
  >
  > Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?
  >
  > Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je s
tim
  > spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec musi
byt
  > potrestan..
  >
  > Dik
  >
  > M
  >
  >
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Ahoj Mateji,

kdysi jsem resila podobny problem, i kdyz nastesti se omyl vyresil. Konzultovala
jsem celou vec se svym ucetnim (roky pracoval na FU), ktery mne uzpozoril, ze si
mam u noveho zakaznika vzdy vytisknout overeni DIC ze stranek EU, kde je uvedene
i prislusne datum. Dokazuje to sice jenom to, ze DIC je platne k danemu dni a
nic vice, ale FU to musi stacit. Nepredpokladam, ze jsi neco podobneho udelal,
nicmene si myslim, ze je asi nejvhodnejsi se poradit s danovym poradcem.
Sabina
-------- Původní zpráva -------
Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...>
Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in Spain)
Datum: 14.02.2013 15:32
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>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
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>   
>
>        Takze bych zkusil kontaktovat spanelsky financak (ale nedelam si iluze,
>
> ze to bude jednoduche).
>
> :) No zkusit to muzu :) ... spis jako vystrahu pro ne, protoze jestli
>
> tu fakturu maj v ucetnictvi vykazanou v DPH - coz snad musi - tak by s
>
> tim meli problem... zkusim jim trochu pohrozit, plus promluvit primo s
>
> jejich ucetnimi, jestli se k nim dostanu.. a uvidime, jenze moje ucetni
>
> mi kvuli tomu dost dycha na krk..
>
> Je to zvlastni... z hlediska prava jsem jim mel fakturovat s DPH, kdyz
>
> nemaji platne VAT reg no., ale pokud obchoduji s EU musi byt k DPH
>
> zaregistrovani, taky jsou, akorat v tom maji nejaky bordel.. nehlede na
>
> fakt, ze jsem to tenkrat nemohl vedet nevim, jak se tomu vyhnout..
>
> ksefty vzdycky spechaji, novy klient, jednani o cene... na overovani
>
> VAT pred prijetim prace rozhodne neni cas (a vzhledem k tomu, jak
>
> dlouho jim obycejne trva VAT no zjistit, by to ani neslo), navic
>
> kdybych jim zacal naznacovat, ze jim budu uctovat VAT pokud mi nedaji
>
> platnou registraci, tak se na me s tim kseftem vy... vite co...
>
> Asi jediny zpusob je udelat tu praci, co nejrychleji od nich vymamit
>
> VAT no a overit jej a pokud se nepovede vymamit platne, tak to rovnou
>
> fakturovat jako bokovku.. ale tady bylo puvodne vsechno v poradku a
>
> ten pruser se projevil az dodatecne..
>
> M
>
> On 14.2.2013 14:47, "Matej Klimes" wrote:
>  > Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?
>  >
>  > Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni firmu
>  > - nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
>  > celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
>  > spolecnost..
>  >
>  > Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez jsem
>  > z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to moc
>  > neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec jsem
>  > jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na 
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic v
>  > dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace byt
>  > taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s EU
> to
>  > vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
>  > formular to ani nevezme)...
>  >
>  > Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze ma
>  > problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
>  > najednou neni platne (predtim bylo).
>  >
>  > Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o jejich
>  > "spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' - vic
>  > jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo, ale
>  > co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich ucetnimi a
>  > nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
>  > complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not able to
>  > do it by now.'
>  >
>  > Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te platby/faktury
>  > 'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom maji
>  > Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
>  > ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC mela,
>  > byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).
>  >
>  > Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze jej
>  > zaplati..
>  >
>  > Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band ktery
>  > neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou
> francouzskou
>  > 'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec jsem
>  > zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
>  > normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine Dixmeier,
>  > mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
>  > nakonec zacaloval sam..)
>  >
>  > Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?
>  >
>  > Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je s
> tim
>  > spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec musi
> byt
>  > potrestan..
>  >
>  > Dik
>  >
>  > M
>  >
>  >
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>

... a kde se da takove overeni vytisknout?

Myslis z toho systemu, na ktery jsem posilal odkaz??

Tenkrat to VAT platne bylo, ale nevytiskl jsem si to, v dobe zadani do
toho formulare FU taky bylo platne, jinak by to neproslo... neplatne
bylo az v okamziku kdy to pani z financaku nekam zadala zacatkem tohoto
roku... jeste ji zkusim zavolat jestli se to neda nejak zasmudlit, ale
pochybuju, z jejiho pohledu je to neplatne a system ji to dal nepusti..

M
------ Original Message ------
From: "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...>
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 14.2.2013 16:46:02
Subject: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in Spain)
> Ahoj Mateji,
>
>kdysi jsem resila podobny problem, i kdyz nastesti se omyl vyresil.
>Konzultovala jsem celou vec se svym ucetnim (roky pracoval na FU),
>ktery mne uzpozoril, ze si mam u noveho zakaznika vzdy vytisknout
>overeni DIC ze stranek EU, kde je uvedene i prislusne datum. Dokazuje
>to sice jenom to, ze DIC je platne k danemu dni a nic vice, ale FU to
>musi stacit. Nepredpokladam, ze jsi neco podobneho udelal, nicmene si
>myslim, ze je asi nejvhodnejsi se poradit s danovym poradcem.
>Sabina
>-------- Původní zpráva -------
>Od: Matej Klimes mklimes@...>
>Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
>Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in
>Spain)
>Datum: 14.02.2013 15:32
>---------------------------------------
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>>
>>
>>
>> Takze bych zkusil kontaktovat spanelsky financak (ale nedelam si
>iluze,
>>
>> ze to bude jednoduche).
>>
>> :) No zkusit to muzu :) ... spis jako vystrahu pro ne, protoze
>jestli
>>
>> tu fakturu maj v ucetnictvi vykazanou v DPH - coz snad musi - tak by
>s
>>
>> tim meli problem... zkusim jim trochu pohrozit, plus promluvit primo
>s
>>
>> jejich ucetnimi, jestli se k nim dostanu.. a uvidime, jenze moje
>ucetni
>>
>> mi kvuli tomu dost dycha na krk..
>>
>> Je to zvlastni... z hlediska prava jsem jim mel fakturovat s DPH,
>kdyz
>>
>> nemaji platne VAT reg no., ale pokud obchoduji s EU musi byt k DPH
>>
>> zaregistrovani, taky jsou, akorat v tom maji nejaky bordel.. nehlede
>na
>>
>> fakt, ze jsem to tenkrat nemohl vedet nevim, jak se tomu vyhnout..
>>
>> ksefty vzdycky spechaji, novy klient, jednani o cene... na overovani
>>
>> VAT pred prijetim prace rozhodne neni cas (a vzhledem k tomu, jak
>>
>> dlouho jim obycejne trva VAT no zjistit, by to ani neslo), navic
>>
>> kdybych jim zacal naznacovat, ze jim budu uctovat VAT pokud mi
>nedaji
>>
>> platnou registraci, tak se na me s tim kseftem vy... vite co...
>>
>> Asi jediny zpusob je udelat tu praci, co nejrychleji od nich vymamit
>>
>> VAT no a overit jej a pokud se nepovede vymamit platne, tak to
>rovnou
>>
>> fakturovat jako bokovku.. ale tady bylo puvodne vsechno v poradku a
>>
>> ten pruser se projevil az dodatecne..
>>
>> M
>>
>> On 14.2.2013 14:47, "Matej Klimes" wrote:
>> > Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?
>> >
>> > Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni
>firmu
>> > - nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
>> > celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
>> > spolecnost..
>> >
>> > Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez
>jsem
>> > z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to
>moc
>> > neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec
>jsem
>> > jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic v
>> > dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace
>byt
>> > taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s
>EU
>> to
>> > vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
>> > formular to ani nevezme)...
>> >
>> > Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze
>ma
>> > problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
>> > najednou neni platne (predtim bylo).
>> >
>> > Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o
>jejich
>> > "spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' -
>vic
>> > jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo,
>ale
>> > co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich
>ucetnimi a
>> > nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
>> > complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not
>able to
>> > do it by now.'
>> >
>> > Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te
>platby/faktury
>> > 'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom
>maji
>> > Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
>> > ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC
>mela,
>> > byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).
>> >
>> > Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze
>jej
>> > zaplati..
>> >
>> > Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band
>ktery
>> > neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou
>> francouzskou
>> > 'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec
>jsem
>> > zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
>> > normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine
>Dixmeier,
>> > mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
>> > nakonec zacaloval sam..)
>> >
>> > Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?
>> >
>> > Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je
>s
>> tim
>> > spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec
>musi
>> byt
>> > potrestan..
>> >
>> > Dik
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Czechlist mailing list
>> > Czechlist@...
>> > http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
>>
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>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Ano, presne to. Koukala jsem na to znuvu a datum tam neni, ale je to (podle meho
ucetniho) jediny zpusob, jak cislo overit. Mozna by pomohlo neco jako pisemne
cestne prohlaseni? Je to asi na libovuli te damy, ale myslim, ze kdybys ji to
zkusil dat pisemne a kytku k tomu, treba by k tomu prihlednout mohla. S.
-------- Původní zpráva -------
Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...>
Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in Spain)
Datum: 14.02.2013 16:54
---------------------------------------
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>
>   
>
>        ... a kde se da takove overeni vytisknout?
>
> Myslis z toho systemu, na ktery jsem posilal odkaz??
>
> Tenkrat to VAT platne bylo, ale nevytiskl jsem si to, v dobe zadani do
>
> toho formulare FU taky bylo platne, jinak by to neproslo... neplatne
>
> bylo az v okamziku kdy to pani z financaku nekam zadala zacatkem tohoto
>
> roku... jeste ji zkusim zavolat jestli se to neda nejak zasmudlit, ale
>
> pochybuju, z jejiho pohledu je to neplatne a system ji to dal nepusti..
>
> M
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Sabina Králová"  sabina.kralova@...>
>
> To:  Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: 14.2.2013 16:46:02
>
> Subject: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in Spain)
>
>> Ahoj Mateji,
>
>>
>
>>kdysi jsem resila podobny problem, i kdyz nastesti se omyl vyresil
>
>>Konzultovala jsem celou vec se svym ucetnim (roky pracoval na FU),
>
>>ktery mne uzpozoril, ze si mam u noveho zakaznika vzdy vytisknout
>
>>overeni DIC ze stranek EU, kde je uvedene i prislusne datum. Dokazuje
>
>>to sice jenom to, ze DIC je platne k danemu dni a nic vice, ale FU to
>
>>musi stacit. Nepredpokladam, ze jsi neco podobneho udelal, nicmene si
>
>>myslim, ze je asi nejvhodnejsi se poradit s danovym poradcem.
>
>>Sabina
>
>>-------- Původní zpráva -------
>>Od: Matej Klimes  mklimes@...>
>>Komu:  Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
>>Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in
>>Spain)
>>Datum: 14.02.2013 15:32
>>---------------------------------------
>>>
>>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Takze bych zkusil kontaktovat spanelsky financak (ale nedelam si
>>iluze,
>>>
>>> ze to bude jednoduche).
>>>
>>> :) No zkusit to muzu :) ... spis jako vystrahu pro ne, protoze
>>jestli
>>>
>>> tu fakturu maj v ucetnictvi vykazanou v DPH - coz snad musi - tak by
>>s
>>>
>>> tim meli problem... zkusim jim trochu pohrozit, plus promluvit primo
>>s
>>>
>>> jejich ucetnimi, jestli se k nim dostanu.. a uvidime, jenze moje
>>ucetni
>>>
>>> mi kvuli tomu dost dycha na krk..
>>>
>>> Je to zvlastni... z hlediska prava jsem jim mel fakturovat s DPH,
>>kdyz
>>>
>>> nemaji platne VAT reg no., ale pokud obchoduji s EU musi byt k DPH
>>>
>>> zaregistrovani, taky jsou, akorat v tom maji nejaky bordel.. nehlede
>>na
>>>
>>> fakt, ze jsem to tenkrat nemohl vedet nevim, jak se tomu vyhnout..
>>>
>>> ksefty vzdycky spechaji, novy klient, jednani o cene... na overovani
>>>
>>> VAT pred prijetim prace rozhodne neni cas (a vzhledem k tomu, jak
>>>
>>> dlouho jim obycejne trva VAT no zjistit, by to ani neslo), navic
>>>
>>> kdybych jim zacal naznacovat, ze jim budu uctovat VAT pokud mi
>>nedaji
>>>
>>> platnou registraci, tak se na me s tim kseftem vy... vite co...
>>>
>>> Asi jediny zpusob je udelat tu praci, co nejrychleji od nich vymamit
>>>
>>> VAT no a overit jej a pokud se nepovede vymamit platne, tak to
>>rovnou
>>>
>>> fakturovat jako bokovku.. ale tady bylo puvodne vsechno v poradku a
>>>
>>> ten pruser se projevil az dodatecne..
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On 14.2.2013 14:47, "Matej Klimes" wrote:
>>> > Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?
>>> >
>>> > Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni
>>firmu
>>> > - nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
>>> > celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
>>> > spolecnost..
>>> >
>>> > Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez
>>jsem
>>> > z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to
>>moc
>>> > neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec
>>jsem
>>> > jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na 
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic v
>>> > dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace
>>byt
>>> > taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s
>>EU
>>> to
>>> > vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
>>> > formular to ani nevezme)...
>>> >
>>> > Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze
>>ma
>>> > problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
>>> > najednou neni platne (predtim bylo).
>>> >
>>> > Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o
>>jejich
>>> > "spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' -
>>vic
>>> > jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo,
>>ale
>>> > co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich
>>ucetnimi a
>>> > nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
>>> > complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not
>>able to
>>> > do it by now.'
>>> >
>>> > Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te
>>platby/faktury
>>> > 'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom
>>maji
>>> > Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
>>> > ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC
>>mela,
>>> > byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).
>>> >
>>> > Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze
>>jej
>>> > zaplati..
>>> >
>>> > Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band
>>ktery
>>> > neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou
>>> francouzskou
>>> > 'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec
>>jsem
>>> > zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
>>> > normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine
>>Dixmeier,
>>> > mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
>>> > nakonec zacaloval sam..)
>>> >
>>> > Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?
>>> >
>>> > Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je
>>s
>>> tim
>>> > spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec
>>musi
>>> byt
>>> > potrestan..
>>> >
>>> > Dik
>>> >
>>> > M
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Czechlist mailing list
>>> >  Czechlist@...
>>> >  http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Czechlist mailing list
>>>  Czechlist@...
>>>  http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
>>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

To datum tam je, pokud clovek zada i svuj clensky stat a DIC (coz ten
formular VIES zadat umoznuje, ale nevyzaduje).

Navic se potom zobrazi i "unikatni cislo konzultace", podle ktereho by
to melo jit dohledat.

Jenze v disclaimeru je, ze "tyto informace ... nemohou byt samy o sobe
vyuzity jako dukazni prostredek pro narok na osvobozeni DPH pri
intrakomunitarnich plneni" [sic]. Je tedy mozne, ze financak ani ty
vytistene informace neuzna. Ale je fakt, ze aspon ma clovek v ruce
nejaky papir.


Pepa

On 14.2.2013 17:02, "=?UTF-8?B?U2FiaW5hIEtyw6Fsb3bDoQ==?=" wrote:
> Koukala jsem na to znuvu a datum tam neni,


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Hello,

Could anyone help me with:

public reporting burden

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f
6d1a/?vgnextoid=53959a47044ad210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68d27
cd67450d210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD


Thanks.

Helena
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I don't think that's an official term, although it is commonly used in official
documents.

It means the time and expense caused by government requirements to report on
one's activities, such as the time and expense of audit reporting, reporting on
racial composition of staff, etc.

You can probably just make up a suitable term.

Jamie

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Helena Subrtova wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Could anyone help me with:
>
> public reporting burden
>
> http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f
> 6d1a/?vgnextoid=53959a47044ad210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68d27
> cd67450d210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Helena
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> Czechlist mailing list
> Czechlist@...
> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist


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Me se kdysi stalo neco podobneho, spanelska fimra mi poslala DIC, ale VIES
rikal, ze neni platne. Pokud si to dobre pamatuji, maji tam dva systemy DIC, a
do toho jednoho se musela pridat nejaka cisla, aby to bylo platne.
Je jen divne, ze tady chteli delat ksefty bez platneho DIC.

Sarka

-----Original Message-----
From: czechlist-bounces@... [mailto:czechlist-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of "Matej Klimes"
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:54 PM
To: czechlist@...
Subject: Re: [Czechlist]Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in Spain)

... a kde se da takove overeni vytisknout?

Myslis z toho systemu, na ktery jsem posilal odkaz??

Tenkrat to VAT platne bylo, ale nevytiskl jsem si to, v dobe zadani do toho
formulare FU taky bylo platne, jinak by to neproslo... neplatne bylo az v
okamziku kdy to pani z financaku nekam zadala zacatkem tohoto roku... jeste ji
zkusim zavolat jestli se to neda nejak zasmudlit, ale pochybuju, z jejiho
pohledu je to neplatne a system ji to dal nepusti..

M
------ Original Message ------
From: "Sabina Kralova" <sabina.kralova@...>
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 14.2.2013 16:46:02
Subject: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in Spain)
> Ahoj Mateji,
>
>kdysi jsem resila podobny problem, i kdyz nastesti se omyl vyresil.
>Konzultovala jsem celou vec se svym ucetnim (roky pracoval na FU),
>ktery mne uzpozoril, ze si mam u noveho zakaznika vzdy vytisknout
>overeni DIC ze stranek EU, kde je uvedene i prislusne datum. Dokazuje
>to sice jenom to, ze DIC je platne k danemu dni a nic vice, ale FU to
>musi stacit. Nepredpokladam, ze jsi neco podobneho udelal, nicmene si
>myslim, ze je asi nejvhodnejsi se poradit s danovym poradcem.
>Sabina
>-------- Puvodni zprava -------
>Od: Matej Klimes mklimes@...>
>Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
>Predmet: Re[2]: [Czechlist] Accounting> Invalid VAT registration (in
>Spain)
>Datum: 14.02.2013 15:32
>---------------------------------------
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>>
>>
>>
>> Takze bych zkusil kontaktovat spanelsky financak (ale nedelam si
>iluze,
>>
>> ze to bude jednoduche).
>>
>> :) No zkusit to muzu :) ... spis jako vystrahu pro ne, protoze
>jestli
>>
>> tu fakturu maj v ucetnictvi vykazanou v DPH - coz snad musi - tak by
>s
>>
>> tim meli problem... zkusim jim trochu pohrozit, plus promluvit primo
>s
>>
>> jejich ucetnimi, jestli se k nim dostanu.. a uvidime, jenze moje
>ucetni
>>
>> mi kvuli tomu dost dycha na krk..
>>
>> Je to zvlastni... z hlediska prava jsem jim mel fakturovat s DPH,
>kdyz
>>
>> nemaji platne VAT reg no., ale pokud obchoduji s EU musi byt k DPH
>>
>> zaregistrovani, taky jsou, akorat v tom maji nejaky bordel.. nehlede
>na
>>
>> fakt, ze jsem to tenkrat nemohl vedet nevim, jak se tomu vyhnout..
>>
>> ksefty vzdycky spechaji, novy klient, jednani o cene... na overovani
>>
>> VAT pred prijetim prace rozhodne neni cas (a vzhledem k tomu, jak
>>
>> dlouho jim obycejne trva VAT no zjistit, by to ani neslo), navic
>>
>> kdybych jim zacal naznacovat, ze jim budu uctovat VAT pokud mi
>nedaji
>>
>> platnou registraci, tak se na me s tim kseftem vy... vite co...
>>
>> Asi jediny zpusob je udelat tu praci, co nejrychleji od nich vymamit
>>
>> VAT no a overit jej a pokud se nepovede vymamit platne, tak to
>rovnou
>>
>> fakturovat jako bokovku.. ale tady bylo puvodne vsechno v poradku a
>>
>> ten pruser se projevil az dodatecne..
>>
>> M
>>
>> On 14.2.2013 14:47, "Matej Klimes" wrote:
>> > Setkal se nekdo s podobnym nestestim?
>> >
>> > Nekdy v lete jsem delal dost velky kseft pro Spanelskou stavebni
>firmu
>> > - nabidku pro velke vyberove rizeni v CR... Firma je pobocka
>> > celosvetove site, matka je v USA, ale je to normalni Spanelska
>> > spolecnost..
>> >
>> > Vystavil jsem fakturu, zaplatili v pohode, chvilku mi trvalo, nez
>jsem
>> > z nich dostal VAT number (jako vetsina klientu na zapad od nas to
>moc
>> > neresi a casto jim trva tydny nez to cislo najdou..), ale nakonec
>jsem
>> > jej dostal a bylo platne (sam jsem overoval na
>> > http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html), navic
>> > v dobe podani priznani k DPH, coz bylo v zari, musela ta registrace
>byt
>> > taky platna, protoze priloha k priznani, kde se vykazuje obchod s
>EU
>> to
>> > vzala (vyplnuje se elektronicky a pokud je registrace neplatna,
>> > formular to ani nevezme)...
>> >
>> > Vsechno se zdalo v poradku, a najednou vola pani z financaku, ze
>ma
>> > problem, ze to VAT cislo je neplatne, zkontroloval jsem a opravdu,
>> > najednou neni platne (predtim bylo).
>> >
>> > Dalsich X Emailu se slecnou ve Spanelsku, nakonec (PRY) jde o
>jejich
>> > "spanelske" VAT number a neni zaregistrovano jako 'mezinarodni' -
>vic
>> > jsem z ni nedostal (je to divne, hlavne kdyz tenkrat platne bylo,
>ale
>> > co nadelam).... premlouval jsem ji, at to projedna s jejich
>ucetnimi a
>> > nakonec napsala, ze: 'Accounting has told me that is a really
>> > complicated process for just one invoice and that they are not
>able to
>> > do it by now.'
>> >
>> > Vzhledem k tomu, ze jsem to radne priznal, tak uz z te
>platby/faktury
>> > 'sedivku' neudelam, ale platit cca 400 EUR jen proto, ze v tom
>maji
>> > Spanele bordel se mi nechce.. navic oni urcite moji fakturu v
>> > ucetnictvi maji (no, kdovi, jak to u nich chodi, ale moje DIC
>mela,
>> > byla bez DPH kvuli exportu do EU, urcite ji tam maji..).
>> >
>> > Samozrejme budu zkouset jim to DPH dofakturovat, ale pochybuju, ze
>jej
>> > zaplati..
>> >
>> > Pritom evidentne jde o fungujici firmu, ne nejaky one man band
>ktery
>> > neni k DPH zaregistrovany (to se mi nedavno stalo s jednou
>> francouzskou
>> > 'agenturou', baba se mesice vymlouvala ze VAT je to a to, nakonec
>jsem
>> > zjistil ze jeji 'firma' uz ani neexistuje/neni registrovana ani
>> > normalne, natoz k DPH - je to DIXTRA Translations, Christine
>Dixmeier,
>> > mimochodem, nastesti fa byla jen asi na 100 EUR, tak jsem to DPH
>> > nakonec zacaloval sam..)
>> >
>> > Nema nekdo nejaky napad/zkusenost?
>> >
>> > Cim dal vice si nadavam, ze ty platby a ksefty z EU priznavam, je
>s
>> tim
>> > spousta papirovani a nakonec takovehle problemy, holt poctivec
>musi
>> byt
>> > potrestan..
>> >
>> > Dik
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
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Administrativni zatez pri plneni oznamovacich povinnosti?
http://www.mpsv.cz/cs/6297

BR

Melvyn


--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Helena Subrtova  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Could anyone help me with:
>
> public reporting burden
>
> http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f
> 6d1a/?vgnextoid=53959a47044ad210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68d27
> cd67450d210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Helena
> _______________________________________________
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> Czechlist@...
> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
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Upozorneni pro ty, kdo si hodlaji koupit novou MS Office 2013. Doposud
to bylo tak, ze clovek mohl koupit relativn� levnou  OEM verzi, kterou
dostal s novym PC a "chcipla" spolu s pocitacem. Nebo asi dvojnasobne
drahou verzi krabicovou, kterou mohl preinstalovavat, kolikrat a kam
chtel, dokud vzdy odinstaloval instalaci predchozi.

Ted to bude jinak - zaplatite tu dvojnasobne drahou verzi a ona vam
chcipne spolus pocitacem, jako ta levna. Podrobnosti zde:

http://www.zive.cz/bleskovky/vime-jak-je-to-s-neprenositelnosti-licence-office-2\
013/sc-4-a-167598/default.aspx#utm_medium=selfpromo&utm_source=zive&utm_campaign\
=RSSfeed

Uz se tesim na bedovani vyrobcu softwaru a MS zvlast, jak jsou uzivatele
zli, protoze hromadne pouzivaji cracknute verze.

Martin

That sounds good. I would go for that one.

Martin

Dne 15.2.2013 10:39, Melvyn napsal(a):
>
> Administrativni zatez pri plneni oznamovacich povinnosti?
> http://www.mpsv.cz/cs/6297
>
> BR
>
> Melvyn
>
> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Helena Subrtova wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Could anyone help me with:
> >
> > public reporting burden
> >
> >
> http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f
> >
> 6d1a/?vgnextoid=53959a47044ad210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68d27
> > cd67450d210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Helena
> > _______________________________________________
> > Czechlist mailing list
> > Czechlist@...
> > http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
> >
>
>

A bit of a mouthful, though. There are a few Google hits for "vykazovaci zatez"
including EUR-LEX and over 100 for "zatez vykaznictvi".

--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Martin Janda <mjanda@...> wrote:
>
> That sounds good. I would go for that one.
>
> Dne 15.2.2013 10:39, Melvyn napsal(a):
> >
> > Administrativni zatez pri plneni oznamovacich povinnosti?
> > http://www.mpsv.cz/cs/6297
> >
> > Helena Subrtova wrote:
> > >
> > > Could anyone help me with:
> > > public reporting burden
> >
<http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1\
a/?vgnextoid=53959a47044ad210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD>

--
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same username at Gmail

"Př�li� vzd�len� most je svědectv�m operace Market Garden,
př�během selh�n�. Během osudov� mise devět tis�c vojensk�ch
letců proniklo za nepř�telskou linii s c�lem obsadit most přes
R�n u Arnhemu."
Michael Feeney Callan: Robert Redford, Vy�ehrad 2012, překlad Kateřina
Sigmundov�. V�ce na
http://okoun.cz/boards/pranyr_prekladu?contextId=1065108592#article-1065108592

Udelal jsem prezentaci

Automaticky prepis a titulkovani

  http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/07.html

Pouzil jsem nasledne v diskuzi o kvalite strojoveho prekladu

http://www.proz.com/forum/machine_translation_mt/240071-quality_of_machine_trans\
lation_from_german_into_italian.html

Pripojil jsem odkaz na clanek o kraceni sazby prekladatelum podle miry usili na
upravu strojoveho prekladu.
Vychazi se z toho, ze rucni preklad je 100% finalniho prekladu, pokud nebyl
strojovy preklad vubec upravovan, jde o 100% strojovy preklad.

Milan

Udelal jsem prezentaci

Automaticky prepis a titulkovani

http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/01.html = Newton Dictate

http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/04.html = Hovory prevedene do textovych
souboru

http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/07.html = Analysis of Post-editing

Mila

Udelal jsem prezentaci

Videa TEDx na YouTube

  http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/01.html

Navstevujete nekdo konference ceskych TEDxu?

Prekladate nekdo cizojazycne titulky z konferenci do cestiny?

Milan

Udelal jsem prezentaci

Automaticky prepis a titulkovani.

http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/01.html

http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/05.html

http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/06.html

Jak vidite, tak jsem se zastavil pred rozdelenim (zkracenim, upravou) vet na
titulky.

Prekladate nekdo titulky z konferenci do cestiny a z cestiny?

Znate nekdo profesionalni weby s ceskymi hovory?

Ja jsem nasel http://www.motejlek.com/ .

Jsou tam rozhovory o podnikani. Pristup k celym textum je placeny. Nazvy clanku
pochopitelne zni zajimave a lakave. Cena je vsak pro Prazany (bez urazky,
nekteri Prazene mi asi rozumeji).
Za ctvrtletni registraci (tedy klouzave tri mesice) zaplatite 8 000 K� plus DPH.
Pololetni predplatne stoji pouze 10 000 K� plus DPH, celorocni pak 14 000 Kc
plus DPH.

Znate nekdo dalsi ceske weby?

Milan

I am ashamed to say that I have asked ProZ about this before picking your
brains but can anyone tell me what the bit between ***s! refers to please:



D�le�itej�ie v�ak je, �e by t�m upriamil pozornos� aj na svojho tajomn�ka
Hatara, ��m by posunul kauzu do krimin�lnej roviny. Jeho �udia by sa tak
ocitli v jednom ��ku spolu s Malch�rkom �i Buben�kovou. A to si nem��e Fico
- v minulosti spochybnen� sponzorskou zmluvou (Fla��k - Bla�ko) aj
***hlasom, ktor� zh��al pre Smer peniaze vlastnou hlavou*** - dovoli�.
Preto ml�� a bude ml�a� aj na�alej. V n�deji, �e po vo�b�ch sa nejak�mu
agiln�mu prokur�torovi podar� Gorilu definit�vne pochova�.



Thanks very much

Charlie


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It refers to tapings in the Gorillagate, someone called the "voice"
(sounds familiar?) apparently alleged Fico knew about dirty money on
Smer's accounts...

http://www.google.cz/search?q=fico+hlas+ktory+zhanal+peniaze&hl=cs&gbv=2&gs_l=he\
irloom-hp.3...3861.11376.0.11717.26.26.0.0.0.0.188.2293.18j8.26.0...0.0...1c.1.6\
RQn93vrI38&oq=fico+hlas+ktory+zhanal+peniaze

http://tmuzergues.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/old-lions-gorillas-and-the-future-of-\
the-centre-right-in-slovakia/

Matej
------ Original Message ------
From: "Charles Stanford" <charliestanfordtranslations@...>
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 18.2.2013 13:07:04
Subject: [Czechlist] Anyone know about Slovak politics please....
>I am ashamed to say that I have asked ProZ about this before picking your
>brains but can anyone tell me what the bit between ***s! refers to please:
>
>
>
>Dôle¾itej¹ie v¹ak je, ¾e by tým upriamil pozornos» aj na svojho
tajomníka
>Hatara, èím by posunul kauzu do kriminálnej roviny. Jeho µudia by sa tak
>ocitli v jednom ¹íku spolu s Malchárkom èi Bubeníkovou. A to si nemô¾e
Fico
>- v minulosti spochybnený sponzorskou zmluvou (Fla¹ík - Bla¹ko) aj
>***hlasom, ktorý zháòal pre Smer peniaze vlastnou hlavou*** - dovoli».
>Preto mlèí a bude mlèa» aj naïalej. V nádeji, ¾e po voµbách sa
nejakému
>agilnému prokurátorovi podarí Gorilu definitívne pochova».
>
>
>
>Thanks very much
>
>Charlie
>
>
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>
>
>
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It is very strange even in Slovak:

Fico cannot afford it as he got impeached in the past by the sponsor
agreement (Fla��k - Bla�ko) and by the voice who had fished money for Smer
by his own head.

But whose voice? And why by his own head? I don�t understand. Does anybody?
Honza



----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Stanford" <charliestanfordtranslations@...>
To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:07 PM
Subject: [Czechlist] Anyone know about Slovak politics please....


I am ashamed to say that I have asked ProZ about this before picking your
brains but can anyone tell me what the bit between ***s! refers to please:



D�le�itej�ie v�ak je, �e by t�m upriamil pozornos� aj na svojho tajomn�ka
Hatara, ��m by posunul kauzu do krimin�lnej roviny. Jeho �udia by sa tak
ocitli v jednom ��ku spolu s Malch�rkom �i Buben�kovou. A to si nem��e Fico
- v minulosti spochybnen� sponzorskou zmluvou (Fla��k - Bla�ko) aj
***hlasom, ktor� zh��al pre Smer peniaze vlastnou hlavou*** - dovoli�.
Preto ml�� a bude ml�a� aj na�alej. V n�deji, �e po vo�b�ch sa nejak�mu
agiln�mu prokur�torovi podar� Gorilu definit�vne pochova�.



Thanks very much

Charlie


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Yahoo! Groups Links

You'd have to be an expert on Gorilla gate to know exactly, and we
don't get that much of detail on it in Czecho courtesy of certain
company's PR - but then I doubt the audience reading Charlie's
translation will be experts either, so IMHO all we need to know is that
there was someone in charge of getting not so legal funding for Smer,
who's called 'the voice' and who said that Fico knew about it all on
one of the tapes.. not sure where the 'own head' comes into the picture
(maybe some of the articles in that Google search I posted will help),
but even if we decipher it, I think a bit of an explanation and/or
re-phrasing will be necessary ion the ENG translation, otherwise people
will be even more lost than we are

M
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jan Culka" <culka@...>
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 18.2.2013 13:28:36
Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Anyone know about Slovak politics please....
>It is very strange even in Slovak:
>
>Fico cannot afford it as he got impeached in the past by the sponsor
>agreement (Flašík - Blaško) and by the voice who had fished money for Smer
>by his own head.
>
>But whose voice? And why by his own head? I don´t understand. Does anybody?
>Honza
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Charles Stanford" <charliestanfordtranslations@...>
>To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:07 PM
>Subject: [Czechlist] Anyone know about Slovak politics please....
>
>
>I am ashamed to say that I have asked ProZ about this before picking your
>brains but can anyone tell me what the bit between ***s! refers to please:
>
>
>
>Dôležitejšie však je, že by tým upriamil pozornosť aj na svojho
tajomníka
>Hatara, čím by posunul kauzu do kriminálnej roviny. Jeho ľudia by sa tak
>ocitli v jednom šíku spolu s Malchárkom či Bubeníkovou. A to si nemôže
Fico
>- v minulosti spochybnený sponzorskou zmluvou (Flašík - Blaško) aj
>***hlasom, ktorý zháňal pre Smer peniaze vlastnou hlavou*** - dovoliť.
>Preto mlčí a bude mlčať aj naďalej. V nádeji, že po voľbách sa
nejakému
>agilnému prokurátorovi podarí Gorilu definitívne pochovať.
>
>
>
>Thanks very much
>
>Charlie
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Czechlist/
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Czechlist/join
>   (Yahoo! ID required)
>
>
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Thanks gentlemen - you have both helped and I have come up with something
pretty opaque based on what you put (don't want the customer to not have to
do any research of their own)

On 18 February 2013 13:40, Matej Klimes <mklimes@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> You'd have to be an expert on Gorilla gate to know exactly, and we
> don't get that much of detail on it in Czecho courtesy of certain
> company's PR - but then I doubt the audience reading Charlie's
> translation will be experts either, so IMHO all we need to know is that
> there was someone in charge of getting not so legal funding for Smer,
> who's called 'the voice' and who said that Fico knew about it all on
> one of the tapes.. not sure where the 'own head' comes into the picture
> (maybe some of the articles in that Google search I posted will help),
> but even if we decipher it, I think a bit of an explanation and/or
> re-phrasing will be necessary ion the ENG translation, otherwise people
> will be even more lost than we are
>
> M
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Jan Culka" culka@...>
> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 18.2.2013 13:28:36
> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Anyone know about Slovak politics please....
> >It is very strange even in Slovak:
> >
> >Fico cannot afford it as he got impeached in the past by the sponsor
> >agreement (Fla��k - Bla�ko) and by the voice who had fished money for Smer
> >by his own head.
> >
> >But whose voice? And why by his own head? I don�t understand. Does
> anybody?
> >Honza
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Charles Stanford" charliestanfordtranslations@...>
> >To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:07 PM
> >Subject: [Czechlist] Anyone know about Slovak politics please....
> >
> >
> >I am ashamed to say that I have asked ProZ about this before picking your
> >brains but can anyone tell me what the bit between ***s! refers to please:
> >
> >
> >
> >D�le�itej�ie v�ak je, �e by t�m upriamil pozornos� aj na svojho tajomn�ka
> >Hatara, ��m by posunul kauzu do krimin�lnej roviny. Jeho �udia by sa tak
> >ocitli v jednom ��ku spolu s Malch�rkom �i Buben�kovou. A to si nem��e
> Fico
> >- v minulosti spochybnen� sponzorskou zmluvou (Fla��k - Bla�ko) aj
> >***hlasom, ktor� zh��al pre Smer peniaze vlastnou hlavou*** - dovoli�.
> >Preto ml�� a bude ml�a� aj na�alej. V n�deji, �e po vo�b�ch sa nejak�mu
> >agiln�mu prokur�torovi podar� Gorilu definit�vne pochova�.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks very much
> >
> >Charlie
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Czechlist/
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear colleagues,

I'm translating a piece by P.J.O'Rourke where he blames Obama for "Hugging the
door on your date with Israel".  I can't find this idiom anywhere, would you
please be able to help

Thanks a lot

Jiri


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I suppose the "hugging" is because there should be romance involved on a
date - but the only thing on Obama's mind was how quickly he could get away
from the talks. One step down from "sitting on the fence". Maybe someone
from the US can put us straight (I have never come across it) but that is
what it sounds like to me.

On 20 February 2013 14:07, Pilucha, Jiri <jiri.pilucha@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I'm translating a piece by P.J.O'Rourke where he blames Obama for "Hugging
> the door on your date with Israel". I can't find this idiom anywhere, would
> you please be able to help
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Jiri
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes - I would go with that, but I don't think any romance is involved. Imagine
you are on your way out and you are talking to somebody in the room that you
were just in and you are poking your head around, it might look as though you
are 'hugging the door' (very poor description, I'm sorry) - a sort of vertical
sitting on the fence ... :)

--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Charles Stanford
<charliestanfordtranslations@...> wrote:
>
> I suppose the "hugging" is because there should be romance involved on a
> date - but the only thing on Obama's mind was how quickly he could get away
> from the talks. One step down from "sitting on the fence". Maybe someone
> from the US can put us straight (I have never come across it) but that is
> what it sounds like to me.
>
> On 20 February 2013 14:07, Pilucha, Jiri <jiri.pilucha@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I'm translating a piece by P.J.O'Rourke where he blames Obama for "Hugging
> > the door on your date with Israel". I can't find this idiom anywhere, would
> > you please be able to help
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > Jiri
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm no expert on US/Israel relations under Obama, but since it says
YOUR date with Israel, it sounds to me as if someone's having a date
(talks) with Israel and Obama is hugging the door (pretty much what
Gerry described), but not on his way out, but in a sort of
butting-in/gooseberry way, i.e. he's not included in the date but he's
standing there hugging the door making small talk refusing to leave? Or
am I miles off?

Matej
------ Original Message ------
From: "wustpisk" <gerry.vickers@...>
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 20.2.2013 14:41:34
Subject: [Czechlist] Re: Hugging the door
> Yes - I would go with that, but I don't think any romance is
>involved. Imagine you are on your way out and you are talking to
>somebody in the room that you were just in and you are poking your
>head around, it might look as though you are 'hugging the door' (very
>poor description, I'm sorry) - a sort of vertical sitting on the fence
>... :)
>
>--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Charles Stanford wrote:
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>> I suppose the "hugging" is because there should be romance involved
>on a
>> date - but the only thing on Obama's mind was how quickly he could
>get away
>> from the talks. One step down from "sitting on the fence". Maybe
>someone
>> from the US can put us straight (I have never come across it) but
>that is
>> what it sounds like to me.
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>> On 20 February 2013 14:07, Pilucha, Jiri wrote:
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>> > Dear colleagues,
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>> > I'm translating a piece by P.J.O'Rourke where he blames Obama for
>"Hugging
>> > the door on your date with Israel". I can't find this idiom
>anywhere, would
>> > you please be able to help
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot
>> >
>> > Jiri
>> >
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Oooops, Sorry I should have explained it right off:  The author is addressing
Obama directly, speaking to him in direct speech, thus Charlie‘s and Gerry’s
clarification makes a lot of sense, thanks to both and an apology to matej, I
should’ve used inverted commas

From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Matej Klimes
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:49 PM
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Re: Hugging the door



I'm no expert on US/Israel relations under Obama, but since it says
YOUR date with Israel, it sounds to me as if someone's having a date
(talks) with Israel and Obama is hugging the door (pretty much what
Gerry described), but not on his way out, but in a sort of
butting-in/gooseberry way, i.e. he's not included in the date but he's
standing there hugging the door making small talk refusing to leave? Or
am I miles off?

Matej
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To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 20.2.2013 14:41:34
Subject: [Czechlist] Re: Hugging the door
> Yes - I would go with that, but I don't think any romance is
>involved. Imagine you are on your way out and you are talking to
>somebody in the room that you were just in and you are poking your
>head around, it might look as though you are 'hugging the door' (very
>poor description, I'm sorry) - a sort of vertical sitting on the fence
>... :)
>
>--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>, Charles
Stanford wrote:
>>
>> I suppose the "hugging" is because there should be romance involved
>on a
>> date - but the only thing on Obama's mind was how quickly he could
>get away
>> from the talks. One step down from "sitting on the fence". Maybe
>someone
>> from the US can put us straight (I have never come across it) but
>that is
>> what it sounds like to me.
>>
>> On 20 February 2013 14:07, Pilucha, Jiri wrote:
>>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear colleagues,
>> >
>> > I'm translating a piece by P.J.O'Rourke where he blames Obama for
>"Hugging
>> > the door on your date with Israel". I can't find this idiom
>anywhere, would
>> > you please be able to help
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot
>> >
>> > Jiri
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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