Will try to so as well...
Martin



Helga Listen wrote:

>Finally a menu I can read ;-)
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>I'm getting together with a few translator colleagues this coming
>Thursday, 28th April, 6 pm at the Lemon Leaf Thai Restaurant (on the
>corner of Myslikova and Na Zderaze). Hope some of you can join us.
>
>You can check out some reviews of the restaurant and the menu at
>http://www.lemon.cz . They do some excellent curries for less than CZK
>200, as well as more standard international fare like pasta and steaks
>at very reasonable prices.
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>I've booked the same cosy corner we were in when we had a rather large
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Hi Melvyn,

I am so sorry, I cannot make it I am working

Sarka

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> Subject: [Czechlist] GATHERING: Curry alert!
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> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm getting together with a few translator colleagues this coming
> Thursday, 28th April, 6 pm at the Lemon Leaf Thai Restaurant (on the
> corner of Myslikova and Na Zderaze). Hope some of you can join us.
>
> You can check out some reviews of the restaurant and the menu at
> http://www.lemon.cz . They do some excellent curries for less than CZK
> 200, as well as more standard international fare like pasta and steaks
> at very reasonable prices.
>
> I've booked the same cosy corner we were in when we had a rather large
> gathering there last year (to the right of the front door as you
> enter). Look forward to seeing some of you there.
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> BR
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Thank you, Hana, Sarka and Beata for their help with those additional
terms at the weekend
Best regards!
Coilin

abychom autenticky vedeli, o cem je spor - komentár i názor na
pravdivost uz si muze pridat kazdý sám i bez komentářů od novinářů....

http://blog.jiristanek.cz/?p=50#more-50

máte to i s anglickým originálem, a je to docela zajímavé porovnat -
třeba to narcení ze lzi, které u nás bylo tou hlavní rozbuskou


Martin

From: "Martin Janda" <martinjanda@...>
>
> abychom autenticky vedeli, o cem je spor - komentár i názor na
> pravdivost uz si muze pridat kazdý sám i bez komentářů od novinářů....
> máte to i s anglickým originálem, a je to docela zajímavé porovnat -
> třeba to narcení ze lzi, které u nás bylo tou hlavní rozbuskou

> Martin

Jen ze zvedavosti, prokousal se nejaký vytrvalec celou tou
nekolikasetstrankovou hruzou az do konce? Udivuje me vira toho
euromistopredsedy, ze vetsina cechu to zvladne precist. Ja jsem si ji pred
mesicem stahl (v anglictine) a zvladl jsem letmo tak 20-30 stran, nez jsem
to vzdal...

Petr

--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Petr Veselý <veselypetr@p...>
wrote:
> From: "Martin Janda" <martinjanda@v...>
> >
> > abychom autenticky vedeli, o cem je spor - komentár i názor na
> > pravdivost uz si muze pridat kazdý sám i bez komentářů od
novinářů....
> > máte to i s anglickým originálem, a je to docela zajímavé
porovnat -
> > třeba to narcení ze lzi, které u nás bylo tou hlavní rozbuskou
>
> > Martin
>
> Jen ze zvedavosti, prokousal se nejaký vytrvalec celou tou
> nekolikasetstrankovou hruzou az do konce? Udivuje me vira toho
> euromistopredsedy, ze vetsina cechu to zvladne precist. Ja jsem si
ji pred
> mesicem stahl (v anglictine) a zvladl jsem letmo tak 20-30 stran,
nez jsem
> to vzdal...
>
> Petr

Toho Staňka jsem četl, ale např. ta výzva ke Klausově odstupu tam
skutečně je. Z té Euroústavy by bylo zajímave sehnat nejaky výcuc
(objektivni:-).

K.

Has anybody here ever had to deal with 'podnet k setreni'? I have come
across it in various situations where an administrative body is called
upon to look into a possible breach of the law. Just can't find any
translation that sounds plausible. Here's a typical example:


MZP v prubehu zari zrusilo dve rozhodnuti odboru zivotniho prostredi
MHMP ze zari 2000 a kvetna 2001, jimiz byl udelen souhlas ke stavbe
dvou rodinnych domu v ochrannem pasmu prirodni pamatky Prosecke skaly.
Presto se na obou parcelach stavi dal. Sdruzeni ochrancu prirody a
krajiny podalo proto podnet k setreni Ceske inspekci zivotniho prostredi.

All ideas welcome.

M.

Hello, Melvyn!
In your context, I would suggest something like "to file a request for
the initiation of investigation" although I feel it is a bit clumsy.
Regards,
Jarda

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Behalf Of melvyn.geo
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:51 PM
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Czechlist] TERM: Podnet k setreni




Has anybody here ever had to deal with 'podnet k setreni'? I have come
across it in various situations where an administrative body is called
upon to look into a possible breach of the law. Just can't find any
translation that sounds plausible. Here's a typical example:


MZP v prubehu zari zrusilo dve rozhodnuti odboru zivotniho prostredi
MHMP ze zari 2000 a kvetna 2001, jimiz byl udelen souhlas ke stavbe
dvou rodinnych domu v ochrannem pasmu prirodni pamatky Prosecke skaly.
Presto se na obou parcelach stavi dal. Sdruzeni ochrancu prirody a
krajiny podalo proto podnet k setreni Ceske inspekci zivotniho
prostredi.

All ideas welcome.

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Hi,

> "to file a request for the initiation of investigation"

I basically like Jarda's suggestion, but I would omit the middle part to
'request for investigation' or 'request for inquiry' myself...

Jirka Bolech

Chroma also suggests "give rise to /initiate the investiagation".

Z
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To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: [Czechlist] TERM: Podnet k setreni


>
>
>
> Has anybody here ever had to deal with 'podnet k setreni'? I have come
> across it in various situations where an administrative body is called
> upon to look into a possible breach of the law. Just can't find any
> translation that sounds plausible. Here's a typical example:
>
>
> MZP v prubehu zari zrusilo dve rozhodnuti odboru zivotniho prostredi
> MHMP ze zari 2000 a kvetna 2001, jimiz byl udelen souhlas ke stavbe
> dvou rodinnych domu v ochrannem pasmu prirodni pamatky Prosecke skaly.
> Presto se na obou parcelach stavi dal. Sdruzeni ochrancu prirody a
> krajiny podalo proto podnet k setreni Ceske inspekci zivotniho prostredi.
>
> All ideas welcome.
>
> M.
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Dobre jitro vsem,
preposílam citaci z dnesniho Viditelneho Macka
(http://www.viditelnymacek.cz/):

++++++++++++++++++++
...strávil jsem témer vsechna léta normalizace jako ucitel anglického jazyka
na ruzných jazykových skolách v Praze.
"Mýma rukama" proslo zajisté více nez 2 tisíce záku. Mám proto, alespon si
to myslím, urcitý "sestý smysl" pro jazykovou
vybavenost verejných tvárí.
A tak jsem jiz u expremiéra Grosse apriorne predpokládal, ze neumí zádný
cizí jazyk. Stejný dojem jsem mel a mám u dalsích jmen: Milada Emmerová,
Milada Soucková, Petr Lachnitt, Zdenek Skromach, Petr Cermák, Josef Lux,
Milos Kuzvart, Jaroslav Tvrdík... V nekolika výse zmínených prípadech se
moje podezrení potvrdila, nikdy se nevyvrátila.
Nyní mám skálopevný dojem, ze dalsím z této neslovutné rady je pan Jirí
Paroubek!
Je vskutku pozoruhodné, ze v národe, v nemz mluví minimálne 1 milion lidí
nejakým západním jazykem, se takovíto lidé dostávají az na vrchol politické
moci. A jeste zajímavejsí je, ze tuto zálezitost média vubec netématizují!!!
Mne osobne by jazyková vybavenost pana Paroubka vskutku velmi zajímala,
rozhodne víc nez jméno jeho papouska!
Dalsím zajímavým tématem by byl pocet tiskových mluvcích na 1000 obyvatel. V
CR je tento podíl zrejme nejvyssí na svete. Zrejme máme na ruzných okresních
i vyssích úradech samé zlatoústé tlamy, které ze sebe nevypraví ani tu
nejjednodussí vetu, a tak si na svá verejná vyjádrení mus/ej/í najímat
specialisty. Kdykoli vidím v TV tiskovou/ého mluvcí/ho, ríkám si: za ní/m se
urcite skrývá neartikulující pazneht!
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Jarda

From: "kzgafas" <kzgafas@...>

  Z té Euroústavy by bylo zajímave sehnat nejaky výcuc
(objektivni:-).

K.

Tady jsem jeden nasel :-)

http://pes.eunet.cz/clanky/2005/04/43082_0_0_0.html

Petr

Hi all, I·m terribly sorry but I think I am coming down with something so I·d
better not go out tonight. Have fun, Hanka
____________________________________________________________
http://www.seznam.cz - e-mailová schránka 2000 MB

Kostasi, diky za radu.

> Akorát mě napadá,  že exception může taky znamenat "námitka".

Toto je spise soudni termin, ale neco na nem je. Myslim, ze mnou poptavany
vyraz jsem jiz pochopil. V prekladanem dokumentu jsem se dopracoval k vyrazu
'exceptions and other reports', coz jsou oznameni, ktera obdrzi klient od
banky, aby je potvrdil ve vztahu k platebnim prikazum podanym typicky den
predtim. Vypada to, ze 'exceptions' jsou proste platebni prikazy lisici se
od pravidelne se opakujicich nebo jinak ocekavanych prikazu...

Jirka Bolech

Hello there,

the Czech word "kraj" as an administrative unit of the country is usually
translated as 'region' into English. I wonder if 'province' would actually
be a more suitable rendition. Do you see any pros or cons for either option?

Jirka Bolech

Yes, I do - you are trying to go against a well-established terminology.
Regardless whether province is better or not ( I can't see why it should
be), that might raise confusion of end users and complaints of Czech
clients (that kind who knows only 3 to 4 English words, but checks these
very carefully). in other words, you are asking for trouble.
Martin



Jirka Bolech wrote:

>Hello there,
>
>the Czech word "kraj" as an administrative unit of the country is usually
>translated as 'region' into English. I wonder if 'province' would actually
>be a more suitable rendition. Do you see any pros or cons for either option?
>
>Jirka Bolech
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On Friday, April 29, 2005, at 09:23  AM, Martin Janda wrote:

> Yes, I do - you are trying to go against a well-established
> terminology.
> Regardless whether province is better or not ( I can't see why it
> should
> be), that might raise confusion of end users and complaints of Czech
> clients (that kind who knows only 3 to 4 English words, but checks
> these
> very carefully). in other words, you are asking for trouble.

There is also the problem that according to anglophone custom,
"province" is used for certain countries but not for others.  For
example, we usually talk about provinces of France, Canada and China,
but regions of Russia, Spain and some other countries.  There is no
hard, fast rule, but I would say that any country smaller than a US
state would usually not be discussed as having provinces, so the Czech
Republic would not qualify based on that criterion.  When Jirka
suggested "province" for "kraj", my mind immediately filled with images
of China, Thailand and Burma.  You could probably translate "kraj" as
"prefecture" also, but that would make it sound like you were in Japan.

Personally, I think that, realistically, "kraj" should be translated as
"county", as such areas are called even in English-speaking countries
that have no nobility.  However, Michael doesn't like that one, because
he thinks that if you talk about a county in Europe, there should be a
count lurking around.

Jamie

On Apr 29, 2005, at 9:52 AM, James Kirchner wrote:

> Personally, I think that, realistically, "kraj" should be translated as
> "county", as such areas are called even in English-speaking countries
> that have no nobility.  However, Michael doesn't like that one, because
> he thinks that if you talk about a county in Europe, there should be a
> count lurking around.

If you *were* going to use 'county' in reference to the Czech Rep, I
think it would be a better fit for 'okres' (and would also have the
advantage of eliminating the confusion between 'district' = 'okres' and
'district' = 'obvod'). FWIW.

Michael

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Vazeny a mili,



Je tam venku mimo mne jeste nekdo, kdo vi, ze pristi utery ...?????



H.



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Ja to vim a prijdu. Pokud vim vi to i Jarda

S.


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> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:01 PM
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> Vazeny a mili,
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> Je tam venku mimo mne jeste nekdo, kdo vi, ze pristi utery ...?????
>
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> H.

Taky bych rád přišel, ale nebylo by lepší dohodnout na tyhle měsíce
sezení venku? Má ten Bizon zahrádku? A když ne, co takhle u te Rezave
kotvy? Mel jsem proti tomu puvodne namitky, ale byl jsem se tam potom
podívat a je to moc pěkné místo (musím dát Matějovi za pravdu).

K.

On Friday, April 29, 2005, at 12:01  PM, Michael Grant wrote:

> On Apr 29, 2005, at 9:52 AM, James Kirchner wrote:
>
> > Personally, I think that, realistically, "kraj" should be translated
> as
> > "county", as such areas are called even in English-speaking countries
> > that have no nobility.  However, Michael doesn't like that one,
> because
> > he thinks that if you talk about a county in Europe, there should be
> a
> > count lurking around.
>
> If you *were* going to use 'county' in reference to the Czech Rep, I
> think it would be a better fit for 'okres' (and would also have the
> advantage of eliminating the confusion between 'district' = 'okres' and
> 'district' = 'obvod'). FWIW.

Oh, yeah.  I'm getting rusty in those distinctions.

Jamie



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Jde o preklad z anglictiny, tyka se rentgenoveho prístroje (R/F system
= Skiagraficky / Skiaskopicky pristroj) .. nevite nekdo jak prelozit
termin Important zone? Kontext:

In the important zone R/F systems are used for radiological
gastrointestinal diagnosis

Zaroven je Important zone i nadpis tohohle odstavce.

Dekuju predem

Amir

Hi Czechlisters,

is there any difference between
"security interest" and "collateral" ?


Thanks for your opinions.

Zuzana



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--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Amir" <amir.z@s...> wrote:
> Jde o preklad z anglictiny, tyka se rentgenoveho prístroje (R/F
system
> = Skiagraficky / Skiaskopicky pristroj) .. nevite nekdo jak prelozit
> termin Important zone? Kontext:
>
> In the important zone R/F systems are used for radiological
> gastrointestinal diagnosis
>
> Zaroven je Important zone i nadpis tohohle odstavce.
>
> Dekuju predem
>
> Amir

Z Google nějak nevypadává pro important zone žádný specifický termín.
Co takhle to přeložit prostě?

K.

On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:10  AM, Zuzana Kočičková wrote:

> is there any difference between
> "security interest" and "collateral" ?

According to http://dictionary.law.com, there appears to be a
difference.

collateral
1) n. property pledged to secure a loan or debt, usually funds or
personal property as distinguished from real property (but technically
collateral can include real estate). 2) adj. referring to something
that is going on at the same time parallel to the main issue in a
lawsuit or controversy which may affect the outcome of the case, such
as adoption of a new federal regulation or a criminal trial of one of
the parties. Example: John has filed a lawsuit in New Mexico, where he
lives, to establish that he is not the father of Betty's child, while
Betty has filed for divorce in Colorado asking that John pay child
support for the child. The New Mexico paternity suit is collateral to
the Colorado divorce action.

security interest
n. generic term for the property rights of a lender or creditor whose
right to collect a debt is secured by property.

Jamie



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I believe we didn´t yet have the version for "pokrocile studenty" - pls see
below.

Helga

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Welche Hexe schaut sich welchen Swatch-Uhrenknopf an?

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witch watches which Swatch watch switch.

I have deleted by an accident an .ini item from Trados WB standard
settings, and I need your help in finding it.

If you go (WB at standard setting): WB - Options - Translation
memory options... - Tools - DTD Settings, you should see a dialog
box with three items in it:

1) DemoDTD, located in:
C:\Program Files\TRADOS\T65_FL\Samples\WinAlign\SGML\SGMLSample.ini

2) Predefined HTML Settings, located in:
C:\Program Files\TRADOS\T65_FL\TT\HTML4.ini

3)???? this is the one I have deleted and can't find. It should be
somewhere in Trados files, but I do not remember its exact
description, path and filename. It will show up if you double-click
on it.

Thank you in advance,

K.

Kostasi,



Je mi lito, ale u mne tam jsou jen ty 2 slozky, ktery uvedes. Zadna 3. tam
NENI!!!!



Helga



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Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:05 AM
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Czechlist] HELP: Trados settings



I have deleted by an accident an .ini item from Trados WB standard
settings, and I need your help in finding it.

If you go (WB at standard setting): WB - Options - Translation
memory options... - Tools - DTD Settings, you should see a dialog
box with three items in it:

1) DemoDTD, located in:
C:\Program Files\TRADOS\T65_FL\Samples\WinAlign\SGML\SGMLSample.ini

2) Predefined HTML Settings, located in:
C:\Program Files\TRADOS\T65_FL\TT\HTML4.ini

3)???? this is the one I have deleted and can't find. It should be
somewhere in Trados files, but I do not remember its exact
description, path and filename. It will show up if you double-click
on it.

Thank you in advance,

K.





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On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 02:10:06PM +0200, Zuzana Kočičková wrote:
> Hi Czechlisters,
>
> is there any difference between
> "security interest" and "collateral" ?

Yes.  A "security interest" is what one has in "collateral."  The former
describes a certain kind of legal right; the latter describes some thing of
value as to which someone has that kind of right.  I say that you can take my
computer if I don't pay you some money I owe you.  The computer is now
collateral (although I keep it in my possession); what you have by virtue of my
promise is a security interest in my computer.  That doesn't make the computer
into a security interest; the computer is still just collateral.

I'd look for some definitions, but I think the above should be clear enough even
without a precise defintion.

Hope it helps.