Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
Czechlist
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Hear how Yahoo! Groups has changed the lives of others. Take me there.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
"mains"   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #40393 of 41457 |
Re: [Czechlist] Re: "mains"

Not sure about the "absolutely confined to the UK" Jamie and "provincial
usage"!!! We like to think of ourselves as the epicentre of English..... This is
all very depressing - has the sun finally set on the BrEng empire? Or are you
just taking the mickey/livening things up? The question you originally asked was
"How often do the British use the word "mains" in the electrical sense". If the
answer is "all the time", then I think you are hard pushed to draw the
conclusion that it is "provincial English". Wikipedia warns that "mains
electricity" is not often used in the US and Canada - that's as maybe, but I am
not sure that relegates the term to "provincial usage´"! I am pretty sure that
South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders, Africans of all persuasions,
Indians etc. would understand what is meant by "the mains".



----- Original Message -----
From: James Kirchner
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Re: "mains"





Apparently I'm not so amazing. Over the weekend I've asked several
people who should know, including engineers, skilled tradesmen at
factories and people who rehab houses, and they have never heard
"mains" used in compounds involving electrical wiring. At first they
think I mean "main", and when I tell them it's "mains", they are
mystified by the expressions.

I have also searched the websites of several power companies, and none
of them use the word "mains" in reference to the electrical lines, but
use it only for pipes transporting water, steam and gas.

Clearly these compounds like "mains adaptor", "mains cable", etc., are
provincial usage and suitable only for materials that will absolutely
be confined to the UK. Anything intended to be in "international
English" should use "electrical", "power" or some other less opaque
term.

Jamie

On Jul 9, 2009, at 3:01 AM, Simon Vollam wrote:

> > Despite having had to read at technical material from various
> > countries for decades, last week was the first time in my entire
> life
> > that I had ever encountered the word "mains" used that way,
>
> You amaze me.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





--
Jsem chráněn bezplatným SPAMfighter pro soukromé uživatele.
Až doposud mě ušetřil příjmu 7225 spam-emailů.
Platící uživatelé tuto zprávu ve svých e-mailech nedostavají.
Stáhněte si zadarmo SPAMfighter zde: www.spamfighter.com/lcs


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:45 pm

charliestnfrd
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #40393 of 41457 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

How often do the British use the word "mains" in the electrical sense, in expressions like "mains adaptor", "mains supply", "mains cable", etc., instead of...
James Kirchner
kirchnerjk
Offline Send Email
Jul 8, 2009
6:05 pm

Hi all, ... Surprising, very surprising. I see this term and the related constructs very often in various consumer electronics manuals from all over the world,...
Josef Hlavac
nahovno
Offline Send Email
Jul 8, 2009
6:19 pm

I'm assuming these must have been translated from other languages, because I am fairly certain that fewer than 10 percent of North American consumers would...
James Kirchner
kirchnerjk
Offline Send Email
Jul 9, 2009
3:12 am

I dunno, I seem to run across plural modifiers in UK English fairly often and I suspect it's an AE/BE thing. Perhaps our British colleagues will comment in the...
Michael Grant
maclingua
Offline Send Email
Jul 9, 2009
4:17 am

I first became aware of the rule through a morphology exercise in a British-written linguistics textbook. :-) Jamie ... [Non-text portions of this message...
James Kirchner
kirchnerjk
Offline Send Email
Jul 9, 2009
4:22 am

Good morning, I am far from being a NS but I am an electrician. And I have met "mains" very very often never percepting this being a plural. In my experience...
culka@...
Send Email
Jul 9, 2009
7:36 am

Be ready for the reality. Don't know about British but this is the common usage in Chinglish, Jenglish, Denglish, Danglish, Dunglish, Frenglish, Czenglish and...
Mihail Mihaylov
fidelng1
Offline Send Email
Jul 8, 2009
6:24 pm

... All the compounds you mention above are routinely used in BrE, but "power" and "electrical/electricity" are perfectly acceptable alternatives. "Mains"...
Simon Vollam
vollams
Offline Send Email
Jul 9, 2009
7:01 am

Apparently I'm not so amazing. Over the weekend I've asked several people who should know, including engineers, skilled tradesmen at factories and people who...
James Kirchner
kirchnerjk
Offline Send Email
Jul 12, 2009
7:35 pm

... This issue cropped up a few months back and I seem to recall Jirka B. pointed out that plural noun modifiers are nothing particularly anomalous (words to...
melvyn.geo
Offline Send Email
Jul 9, 2009
7:51 am

Not sure about the "absolutely confined to the UK" Jamie and "provincial usage"!!! We like to think of ourselves as the epicentre of English..... This is all...
Charlie Stanford
charliestnfrd
Offline Send Email
Jul 12, 2009
10:46 pm

If it's not often used in the US and Canada (and I would confirm that it's virtually NEVER used), and if people involved in the technical professions here...
James Kirchner
kirchnerjk
Offline Send Email
Jul 12, 2009
11:55 pm

It is used in Australia. However, I agree that if it isn't used in the US and Canada, it shouldn't be used in a translation designed to be used ...
Valerie Talacko
valerietalacko
Offline Send Email
Jul 13, 2009
12:09 am
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help