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4953 Brian van der Spuy
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May 1, 2003
11:35 am
[[[From: "Stephen E. Jones" <sejones@...> Subject: Re: who says religious truths have to do with the empircal? (was Gould and God ...) In the case of...
4954 richard williams
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May 1, 2003
9:28 pm
looking for references to study the (mis)uses of science in the question of racism. working on _the science and politics of racial research_ by william tucker...
4955 pk4_paul Offline Send Email May 2, 2003
1:08 am
... empircal? (was Gould and God ...) ... religions, "it" very much does "have a thing to do with the ... purposes and His commands how humans are to live,...
4956 Stephen E. Jones
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May 2, 2003
7:46 am
From: "Stephen E. Jones" <senojes@...> Date: Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:21 pm Subject: Re: MODERATOR Honesty [...] ... *** Moderator: I had just realised...
4957 Stephen E. Jones
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May 2, 2003
8:37 am
Group Attached is a copy of Australian philosopher Kim Sterelny's 1988 review of Dawkins' "The Blind Watchmaker". This originally arose on another list, when...
4958 Stephen E. Jones
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May 2, 2003
2:52 pm
Group I have just rejected an application to join CED by a former member who is a member of another list and regularly posts messages critical of my...
4959 Brian van der Spuy
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May 2, 2003
3:42 pm
[[[From: "pk4_paul" <pk4_paul@...> Subject: Re: who says religious truths have to do with the empircal? I would agree that Biblical accounts about people...
4960 pk4_paul Offline Send Email May 2, 2003
5:42 pm
... intrinsically empirical but this does not pose a conflict with science. To believe this is to assert that any historical account is also in conflict with...
4961 Stephen E. Jones
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May 3, 2003
1:00 am
Group Here are excerpts from science news articles. My comments are in square brackets. My last such post is at: ...
4962 Jon Saboe
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May 3, 2003
3:12 am
Commenting on the following statement: [[[How could God demonstrate his divinity? By doing things that are completely contrary to scientific laws such as...
4963 cameron
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May 3, 2003
5:07 am
... On the other hand, such prophecies could have provided a convinient recipe for myth-making. In and of themselves I don't think they really "prove" ...
4964 brneas67207@...
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May 3, 2003
5:46 am
Hello, I've been in this group for a few days now and have been reading the messages. A friend in my church suggested that I write an introduction for myself...
4965 Stephen E. Jones
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May 3, 2003
6:22 am
Group On Sat, 3 May 2003 00:07:53 -0500, cameron wrote: [...] CB>... As far as I understand, modern ... Which "modern scholarship" is that exactly? Perhaps...
4966 Stephen E. Jones
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May 3, 2003
9:50 am
Group On Sat, 3 May 2003 01:15:33 EDT, brneas67207@... wrote: BN>Hello, ... Welcome to Brent. BN>I hand't given much thought to the idea of evolutionism...
4967 pk4_paul Offline Send Email May 3, 2003
3:28 pm
... are ... turning ... rising ... divinity ... concerning his ... covering a ... and ... recipe ... really "prove" ... Genuine prophecy dispels mythology....
4968 bill wald
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May 3, 2003
4:53 pm
... For example, See "Surpassing Wonder," by Donald Harman Akenson. He lays out the theory that the Torah was written during the Babylonian captivity. ...
4969 bill wald
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May 3, 2003
4:53 pm
... divinity ... his ... a ... One proper use of statistical analysis (instead of aribtrarially assigning goofy "probabilities" to prophecies) would be to...
4970 pk4_paul Offline Send Email May 3, 2003
7:59 pm
... concerning ... covering ... and ... these ... Anything ... admit ... the ... Messiah. ... You are confusing the standard set for the prophets with the ...
4971 pk4_paul Offline Send Email May 3, 2003
8:14 pm
... BCE. I ... lays ... pk4 replies: This "theory" runs counter to the prevailing views of scholors in both the Jewish and Christian communities. More...
4972 Jon Saboe
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May 3, 2003
11:06 pm
Cameron, you are correct, the old testament narrative covers about 4000 years, but the authorship would certainly have been within 1000 years BC. The 4000...
4973 brneas67207@...
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May 4, 2003
12:03 am
SEJ> Welcome to Brent. BN> Thank you! SEJ> Maybe Brent could state what he expects to "learn" here on CED? In particular, is Brent prepared to "learn" that...
4974 Stephen E. Jones
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May 4, 2003
12:05 am
Group On Sat, 3 May 2003 19:06:31 -0400, Jon Saboe wrote: [...] JS>All that is needed to debunk the myths would be for contemporaries ... To me one of the best...
4975 bill wald
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May 4, 2003
1:43 am
... claimed to be Creator, God, and >Redeemer was telling the truth by fufilling prophecies (many of which he had no control over) -- including ... desperately...
4976 hucklebird@...
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May 4, 2003
2:31 am
Sometimes literalism is seen as a proxy for consistency and honesty. But literalism in the name of honesty is dishonest, as there is something more. To take...
4977 pk4_paul Offline Send Email May 4, 2003
2:35 am
This year marks the 50th anniversary since the discovery of DNA. The occasion has been marked by conferences throughout the scientific world commemorating the...
4978 cameron
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May 4, 2003
3:27 am
... Please note the "as far as I understand." It doesn't leave me exempt from providing evidence, though I don't have it. *As far as I understand* it is ...
4979 cameron
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May 4, 2003
3:51 am
... Right, but I'm not suggesting Jesus was the myth-maker. I'm suggesting the authors of the Gospels *may* have been myth-makers. Its one thing to accept ...
4980 Cliff Lundberg
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May 4, 2003
5:41 am
... It is astonishing that an authentic report from that time should have not the slightest incongruence with the tradition, but then, no details are offered. ...
4981 Stephen E. Jones
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May 4, 2003
6:19 am
Group On Sat, 3 May 2003 19:34:23 EDT, brneas67207@... wrote: [...] ... BN>Well, I know I don't know everything. I guess that as long as you are ... ...
4982 Stephen E. Jones
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May 4, 2003
6:58 am
Group ... SJ>It is astonishing that an authentic report from that time should have not ... Cliff choses to ignore my main point (which is always gratifying...
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