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12978 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 1, 2005
9:03 am
Group On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:53:31 -0000, paulcanagnostopoulos wrote Re: Origins of fx174: [...] ... PA>No it isn't. The default option is to do more research....
12979 Paul
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Apr 1, 2005
10:34 am
... PK: Until one can demonstrate that a living organism can exist that a)relies solely on RNA for protein encoding and replication functions and b) is able to...
12980 Alan C
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Apr 1, 2005
1:27 pm
Hi Jim! ... This raised some questions in my mind. Question One: Does this mean you want to exclude every intimation of "supernatural" from "the science...
12981 Alan C
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Apr 1, 2005
1:54 pm
... This is more of the circular philosophy expressed in the grossly misleading term "overpopulation". What led to "the creation of mega-cities" was not...
12982 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 1, 2005
4:24 pm
Group Here are brief excerpts from today's science news articles, as well as some older ones, in rough order of importance. My comments are in square brackets....
12983 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 1, 2005
4:33 pm
... interpreting "naturalistic" to mean "without the involvement of sentient beings." ... them. ... more ... categories of ... I am not excluding any...
12984 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 1, 2005
4:35 pm
... You may be aware of it, but you aren't paying attention. They are addressing the question of how the extant protein synthesis system arose. Perhaps by...
12985 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 1, 2005
4:39 pm
... specify ... so ... When one of the following occurs: 1. Evidence appears for the existence of a supernatural designer who clearly had a hand in the origin...
12986 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 1, 2005
4:51 pm
... of ... Unless and until someone can explain how the supernatural is relevant to science, yes. ... science ... No. ... philosophy ... I'm not sure. Such as?...
12987 Paul
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Apr 1, 2005
9:11 pm
... PK: No. I mean an explanation for the assumption that thousands of nucleotide sequences randomly form in just the right sequential order to allow for ...
12988 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 1, 2005
10:03 pm
... No one makes your assumption, so there are no papers on the subject, except by IDers. No one is worried about which "natural forces" would cause ...
12989 Paul
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Apr 1, 2005
11:02 pm
... PK: Which assumption? That nucleotides form randomly or as a result of an identifiable natural causes? Or do you have a third option? ... PK: Really?...
12990 pk4_paul Offline Send Email Apr 2, 2005
4:50 am
PK: This e-mail from the cited source updates the continued developments caused by a published article of an ID advocate. BREAKPOINT with Charles Colson ... A...
12991 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 2, 2005
5:52 am
Group On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 02:34:51 -0800 (PST), Paul wrote ... As I said, the only difference between RNA and DNA (apart from their normal single and double...
12992 Cliff Lundberg
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Apr 2, 2005
11:07 am
From: "Stephen E. Jones" <sejones@...> ... Given all this evidence, what may be inferred about this first living organism? IMO to say that the first...
12993 Phil Tompkins
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Apr 2, 2005
7:13 pm
PK>When prebiotic theories are unable to even theoretically specify precise forces pushing in the direction of life and why this is so then randomness is the...
12994 Paul
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Apr 2, 2005
9:28 pm
... PK: Disease is essentially a malfunction within an organism. When disease afflicts an organism we have a reference frame constituting what normal function...
12995 Phil Tompkins
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Apr 2, 2005
10:19 pm
... You misunderstand. The topic here is causes: causes of initial forms of life, causes of diseases. We assume that there are naturalistic causes of...
12996 Paul
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Apr 2, 2005
11:01 pm
... PK: I'm afraid you misunderstand. Many, many diseases have been documented as to their cause. A scientific case can be made for verifiable natural causes...
12997 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 3, 2005
12:47 am
... The assumption that nucleotides form randomly "in just the right sequential order." ... They think it evolved from something more primitive. ~~ Paul...
12998 paulcanagnostopoulos
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Apr 3, 2005
12:56 am
... Then abiogenesis is in a state similar to disease back when its causes were unknown and people assumed it was the Devil or an evil spirit inhabiting the...
12999 Paul
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Apr 3, 2005
2:03 am
... PK: Either the required nucleotides form in the sequential order needed to encode a functional protein or they do not. Hundreds of nucleotides are...
13000 Paul
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Apr 3, 2005
2:16 am
... PK: No it is not in a comparable situation. Researchers have been working for decades without answers to basic questions. It is more a question of having...
13001 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 3, 2005
6:26 am
Group On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:50:28 -0000, pk4_paul wrote Re: More on Sternberg: Thanks to Paul K for this Breakpoint, which is webbed at ...
13002 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 3, 2005
12:07 pm
Group Here is a defence of ID by mathematician/philosopher David Berlinski in The Daily Californian, Berkeley University student paper, against an attack on ID...
13003 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 3, 2005
4:19 pm
Group Here are brief excerpts from today's science news articles, as well as older one(s). My comments are in square brackets. ... ...
13004 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 4, 2005
3:26 am
AN (copy to CED) On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:53:50 +0100, AN wrote: Thanks for your message. As is my long-standing practice, when I receive a private message on a...
13005 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 4, 2005
11:55 am
Group Here is an *amazing* article to be published on a website as committed to the `Copernican' principle of mediocrity as SPACE.com is: "Though researchers...
13006 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 4, 2005
2:31 pm
Group Here are brief excerpts from today's science news articles, as well as older one(s). My comments are in square brackets. ... ...
13007 Stephen E. Jones
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Apr 4, 2005
4:55 pm
Group On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:47:14 -0000, paulcanagnostopoulos wrote Re: Origins of fx174: [...] ... PA>They think it evolved from something more primitive. ...
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