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Re: Seven clues to the work of an Intelligent Designer (corrected)   Message List  
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On Tue, 06 May 2003 10:01:33 +0800, Stephen E. Jones wrote:

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SJ>So here are my "Seven clues to the work of an Intelligent Designer",
>(who I personally believe to be the Christian God).
>
>I haven't got time to flesh them out or support them, but I fear that if I
>don't post them now, other things will come up and I will never post
>them. I will eventually flesh this out as a web page.

I have now posted this corrected version to one of my web pages.

If it is to be debated, please use this version.

Thanks.

Steve

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Seven clues to the work of an Intelligent Designer

1. That there is something rather than nothing. The atheists often cite
Occam's Razor as a reason for rejecting Intelligent Design/Creation by
God on the grounds that it is not the simplest explanation. But the
simplest explanation would be that there was nothing!

2. That the universe is fine-tuned for life. The atheist is forced to
extraordinary lengths to deny this, e.g an infinite number of universes,
etc.

3. That our human minds are pre-adapted to understand the underlying
mathematical laws of the universe: "the most incomprehensible thing
about the universe is that it is comprehensible".

4. That living things do in fact "give the appearance of having been
designed for a purpose" (Dawkins, 1986).

5. That no naturalistic theory of the origin and evolution of life is
adequate.

6. That the vast majority of human beings always have (and still do, even
in advanced Western societies where naturalistic evolution has been
compulsorily taught to the exclusion of Intelligent Design/Creation),
reject fully naturalistic evolution and believe in some form of
Intelligent Design/Creation.

7. The existence of the Israel, the Bible and Christianity are facts (indeed
among the most important facts of human history) for which there is
no adequate naturalistic explanation.
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"Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of
having been designed for a purpose." (Dawkins R., "The Blind
Watchmaker," [1986], Penguin: London, 1991, reprint, p.1)
Stephen E. Jones sejones@... or senojes@...
Home: http://members.iinet.net.au/~sejones
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[[[ From: "Stephen E. Jones" <sejones@...> Subject: Re: Seven clues to the work of an Intelligent Designer (corrected) Seven clues to the work of an...
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[[[From: "Stephen E. Jones" <sejones@...> Subject: Re: Seven clues to the work of an Intelligent Designer (corrected) Yes. If it is "scientific" to...
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... evidence >for the supernatural. Statistical analysis! The kind of evidence that IDers seem to intentionally ignore. For example, prayer for patients does...
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[[[ From: bill wald <billwald@...> Subject: Re: Seven clues to the work of an Intelligent Designer (corrected) Statistical analysis! The kind of evidence...
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... supernatural, >as opposed to something natural that we do not understand yet? Agree. It is supernatural (metaphysical) until we do understand it. [[[[If...
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