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#39 From: "terri_foutz" <terri_foutz@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: Hi I am new; from Indiana
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Well not tie-dyed ones or anything that special!!! Mine are all green
as they all come from the same momma. But I know someone I am going
to get some eggs to hatch that lay pink and blue ones. I just am to
busy hatching eatt'n birds right now.  They are really americaunas..I
think..mine has a little puff of fur under her eyes someone correct
me..I just like to call them easter eggers. The kids think they are
cool!!!



--- In CountryLifeandHomesteading@yahoogroups.com, "Hood"
<ehood@r...> wrote:
> 'Splain somethin' to me, Lucy - what is an easter egger?  Don't
tell me they lay different colored eggs.
>
> Emily
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: terri_foutz
>   To: CountryLifeandHomesteading@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:36 PM
>   Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Hi I am new; from Indiana
>
>
>   Hi my name is Terri Foutz. My husband Jim & I live on a 10acre
farm
>   in Freedom Indiana.  In between and sort of south of Bloomington
and
>   Terre Haute.
>
>   We are interested in becoming more self sufficient and to get our
>   land in position to help pay for itself.  Neither of us grew up
on a
>   farm but had some experiences with it through family.  We love it
so
>   far.
>
>   We have 64 chickens..buff orpingtons, barred rocks, easter
eggers, 3
>   mixed comets and bantams.  I want to get golden comets and more
>   orpingtons for laying and breeding.  Most of the ones we have we
are
>   raising for meat...which we need to butcher pronto.  We would
love to
>   have a plucker but just can't afford one.  It seems money is the
main
>   issue in any of our decisions of purchases since we have been
here.
>   That is alot of our problems. We never have enough extra money to
>   invest in the farm to make it produce for it's self. For instance
we
>   have a small area penned but need to fence several acres.
Building
>   supples are also needed. I am looking into farm operating loans
etc.
>
>   We have 2 young goats here (nubian mixed march buckling and doe)
And
>   are going to pick up a dry yearling (being bred right now) and a
>   small doe also a march baby I think she said.  I want to milk for
>   cheese, the milk, soap lotion etc.
>
>   We have 7 pheasants and had to rabbits but lost them both 2 wks
ago
>   and need to get more.  We want to raise worms as a side "crop"
and
>   for our garden/chickens.  My husband wants cows and pigs. I would
>   love to have Dexters...but sure don't have the money to start
>   breeding and raising those!!!
>
>   I love cooking, sewing, canning, gardening, decorating, crafts
and
>   especially animals.  We have 2 yorkies, and 2 parakeets (supposed
to
>   be tame but bought together so I could breed and sell those and
>   didn't know they would bond to each other and not us.) I think
they
>   are both of same sex as we have had them several months without
an
>   egg!!
>
>   Sorry to rattle on so....it is my nature!!!!   That and I have
>   a "Lucy" personality!  That's my husband's nickname for
me....you'll
>   know why as you read my posts!! ha :)
>
>   Sincerely, Terri
>
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#38 From: "terri_foutz" <terri_foutz@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: Money saving tips & hints
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Hi Wendy, my name is Terri.  I just joined the group today.  I would
love to have your homemade laundry soap recipe. Is it good at
removing oily stuff?  We seem to have a lot of heavy duty stains in
our household!!  Also I have been looking for a lotion recipe to use
for my goats milk...when I finally get some!! My goats are young.
Thanks, Terri


--- In CountryLifeandHomesteading@yahoogroups.com, Wendy Weisenbach
<weiskids@n...> wrote:
> Please everyone add to this post as I am sure everyone knows some
ways to save money.
>
> Some things I do:
>
> Never turn down anything free unless it is total junk. I have made
quite a bit of money off of things I got for free. Someone gave me 5
free pigs once. I fed them out. Put one in the freezer & sold the
others. I have done that more than once.
> Clothes for kids. I hardly ever buy except underwear & shoes. If I
do buy it is yard-sales.
> I make soap which we use & I also use it for my laundry soap. I
have an easy recipe for laundry soap if anyone wants it.
> I make extra money selling my soap & also homemade lotion.
> I can & freeze everything I can. Someone gave my mom buckets &
buckets of apples last year which we turned into gobs of applesauce.
I never turn down free fruit because the kids love it.
> I sell surplus stuff out of the garden. I also give quite a bit
away to needy people or family. I have been taking some things into
work.
> I make homemade ice cream which is way better than store bought!
Can never have too much ice cream with 6 kids in the house.
> We buy our beef a half at a time from my brother-in-law. We just
got a half. It figured up to $1.75 a pound! You can not buy anything
that cheap in the store except hamburger around here. I have not
gotten meat in the store for years! It's a nice chunk of change to
come up with at once, but way cheaper in the long run. Besides being
able to just go out in the freezer & pick out whatever you want that
day. :-) I have a pig scheduled to go in August 13th to be butchered.
We get those from a neighbor when we aren't feeding any out. I will
put the ducks, geese, & chickens in the freezer also. Turkeys too if
my hatch goes well. I may need to get another freezer!!
> I use coupons & watch sales.
> I go hardly anywhere to save money on gas. My parents are about 4
miles away so our entertainment is going to their house to fish or
swim.
>
> That's a few things we do. I will try to think of more & post them
as I do. Would love to hear others!
>
>
> Wendy Weisenbach
> wife to: Jim
> mommy to:
> Samantha-13, Tommy-13
> Luke-8, Katie-5,
> Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
>
> My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
>
> http://www.geocities.com/weiskids/index.html

#37 From: Wendy Weisenbach <weiskids@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: Wendy / intro
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Yes, that's our farm on my homepage. Needs some work, but we love it! ;-)
 
I have to agree with your mother-in-law. I really don't spend anymore at the grocery than I did when there were only 3 or 4 kids. There is a lot more noise because the 2 youngest just love to drive me nuts!! :-D
 
My soap has only 4 ingredients. Lard, coconut oil, goat milk, & lye. I wanted to try to go with the old fashioned soap that was basically lard, lye, & water. Adding coconut oil gives it lather & substituting goat milk for the water makes a very moisturizing bar of soap. All the people that try it & use it love it, so I have not bothered getting into any other oils or butters. This is probably the cheapest to make too. I also make a homemade laundry soap with it that does very well on clothes.
 
Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
 
My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: lwh
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:45 PM
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Wendy / intro

Hi Wendy,

I visited your web page and was wondering if that is a picture of your farm? You have a very nice web page and I really enjoyed seeing pictures of your children. Please feel free to put any pictures of you, your family, or farm in the photo sections of the list’s homepage.

 

It just didn’t dawn on me when you first introduced yourself to the list that you had 6 children. My hubby and I have 4 that are all grown. My mother in law, who had 6 children, told me once that after the 3rd or 4th child there really wasn’t that much more work, just a little more noise <grin>

 

What are the ingredients in your goat’s milk soap? Do you make other types of soap or bath salts? I make a sugar scrub that is really good for cleaning and conditioning hands after gardening or other outside chores. I’ll be glad to share the recipe with the list.

 

Hugs,

Linda


#36 From: Wendy Weisenbach <weiskids@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Hi I am new; from Indiana
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Oh, I know, I know!!!! They lay green or light blue eggs. Sometimes a pinkish color. Common breed names are Araucana or Americana.
 
Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
 
My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Hood
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Hi I am new; from Indiana

'Splain somethin' to me, Lucy - what is an easter egger?  Don't tell me they lay different colored eggs. 
 
Emily

#35 From: Wendy Weisenbach <weiskids@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: Hi I am new; from Indiana
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Hi from a fellow Hoosier! I raise redworms too & when you are ready for some, I would be happy to send some to get you started. :-)
 
Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
 
My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:36 AM
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Hi I am new; from Indiana

Hi my name is Terri Foutz. My husband Jim & I live on a 10acre farm
in Freedom Indiana.  In between and sort of south of Bloomington and
Terre Haute.

We are interested in becoming more self sufficient and to get our
land in position to help pay for itself.  Neither of us grew up on a
farm but had some experiences with it through family.  We love it so
far. 

We have 64 chickens..buff orpingtons, barred rocks, easter eggers, 3
mixed comets and bantams.  I want to get golden comets and more
orpingtons for laying and breeding.  Most of the ones we have we are
raising for meat...which we need to butcher pronto.  We would love to
have a plucker but just can't afford one.  It seems money is the main
issue in any of our decisions of purchases since we have been here.
That is alot of our problems. We never have enough extra money to
invest in the farm to make it produce for it's self. For instance we
have a small area penned but need to fence several acres. Building
supples are also needed. I am looking into farm operating loans etc.

We have 2 young goats here (nubian mixed march buckling and doe) And
are going to pick up a dry yearling (being bred right now) and a
small doe also a march baby I think she said.  I want to milk for
cheese, the milk, soap lotion etc.

We have 7 pheasants and had to rabbits but lost them both 2 wks ago
and need to get more.  We want to raise worms as a side "crop" and
for our garden/chickens.  My husband wants cows and pigs. I would
love to have Dexters...but sure don't have the money to start
breeding and raising those!!!

I love cooking, sewing, canning, gardening, decorating, crafts and
especially animals.  We have 2 yorkies, and 2 parakeets (supposed to
be tame but bought together so I could breed and sell those and
didn't know they would bond to each other and not us.) I think they
are both of same sex as we have had them several months without an
egg!!

Sorry to rattle on so....it is my nature!!!!   That and I have
a "Lucy" personality!  That's my husband's nickname for me....you'll
know why as you read my posts!! ha :)

Sincerely, Terri




#34 From: "Hood" <ehood@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Hi I am new; from Indiana
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'Splain somethin' to me, Lucy - what is an easter egger?  Don't tell me they lay different colored eggs. 
 
Emily
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Hi I am new; from Indiana

Hi my name is Terri Foutz. My husband Jim & I live on a 10acre farm
in Freedom Indiana.  In between and sort of south of Bloomington and
Terre Haute.

We are interested in becoming more self sufficient and to get our
land in position to help pay for itself.  Neither of us grew up on a
farm but had some experiences with it through family.  We love it so
far. 

We have 64 chickens..buff orpingtons, barred rocks, easter eggers, 3
mixed comets and bantams.  I want to get golden comets and more
orpingtons for laying and breeding.  Most of the ones we have we are
raising for meat...which we need to butcher pronto.  We would love to
have a plucker but just can't afford one.  It seems money is the main
issue in any of our decisions of purchases since we have been here.
That is alot of our problems. We never have enough extra money to
invest in the farm to make it produce for it's self. For instance we
have a small area penned but need to fence several acres. Building
supples are also needed. I am looking into farm operating loans etc.

We have 2 young goats here (nubian mixed march buckling and doe) And
are going to pick up a dry yearling (being bred right now) and a
small doe also a march baby I think she said.  I want to milk for
cheese, the milk, soap lotion etc.

We have 7 pheasants and had to rabbits but lost them both 2 wks ago
and need to get more.  We want to raise worms as a side "crop" and
for our garden/chickens.  My husband wants cows and pigs. I would
love to have Dexters...but sure don't have the money to start
breeding and raising those!!!

I love cooking, sewing, canning, gardening, decorating, crafts and
especially animals.  We have 2 yorkies, and 2 parakeets (supposed to
be tame but bought together so I could breed and sell those and
didn't know they would bond to each other and not us.) I think they
are both of same sex as we have had them several months without an
egg!!

Sorry to rattle on so....it is my nature!!!!   That and I have
a "Lucy" personality!  That's my husband's nickname for me....you'll
know why as you read my posts!! ha :)

Sincerely, Terri




#33 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:03 pm
Subject: RE: Money saving tips & hints
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Things that I do to save money are:

I always have a list when I to go to the store and I use coupons and watch for specials. I have found that in some cases buying in bulk isn’t cheaper. I always check the cost per lb. before deciding to make the purchase. I take advantage of free samples. I belong to a mail list that posts info of companies that offer free samples. I try to make many of the presents we give such as birthday or Christmas. For example I am making 2 white oak baskets that I will give to my 2 oldest daughters for Christmas.  Anyone else have anything they would like to add?

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Weisenbach [mailto:weiskids@...]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:35 PM
To: Country Life & Homesteading
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Money saving tips & hints

 

Please everyone add to this post as I am sure everyone knows some ways to save money.

 

Some things I do:

 

Never turn down anything free unless it is total junk. I have made quite a bit of money off of things I got for free. Someone gave me 5 free pigs once. I fed them out. Put one in the freezer & sold the others. I have done that more than once.

Clothes for kids. I hardly ever buy except underwear & shoes. If I do buy it is yard-sales.

I make soap which we use & I also use it for my laundry soap. I have an easy recipe for laundry soap if anyone wants it.

I make extra money selling my soap & also homemade lotion.

I can & freeze everything I can. Someone gave my mom buckets & buckets of apples last year which we turned into gobs of applesauce. I never turn down free fruit because the kids love it.

I sell surplus stuff out of the garden. I also give quite a bit away to needy people or family. I have been taking some things into work.

I make homemade ice cream which is way better than store bought! Can never have too much ice cream with 6 kids in the house.

We buy our beef a half at a time from my brother-in-law. We just got a half. It figured up to $1.75 a pound! You can not buy anything that cheap in the store except hamburger around here. I have not gotten meat in the store for years! It's a nice chunk of change to come up with at once, but way cheaper in the long run. Besides being able to just go out in the freezer & pick out whatever you want that day. :-) I have a pig scheduled to go in August 13th to be butchered. We get those from a neighbor when we aren't feeding any out. I will put the ducks, geese, & chickens in the freezer also. Turkeys too if my hatch goes well. I may need to get another freezer!!

I use coupons & watch sales.

I go hardly anywhere to save money on gas. My parents are about 4 miles away so our entertainment is going to their house to fish or swim.

 

That's a few things we do. I will try to think of more & post them as I do. Would love to hear others!

 

 

Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2

 

My hands aren't full, my heart is!!

 

http://www.geocities.com/weiskids/index.html




#32 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:45 pm
Subject: Wendy / intro
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Hi Wendy,

I visited your web page and was wondering if that is a picture of your farm? You have a very nice web page and I really enjoyed seeing pictures of your children. Please feel free to put any pictures of you, your family, or farm in the photo sections of the list’s homepage.

 

It just didn’t dawn on me when you first introduced yourself to the list that you had 6 children. My hubby and I have 4 that are all grown. My mother in law, who had 6 children, told me once that after the 3rd or 4th child there really wasn’t that much more work, just a little more noise <grin>

 

What are the ingredients in your goat’s milk soap? Do you make other types of soap or bath salts? I make a sugar scrub that is really good for cleaning and conditioning hands after gardening or other outside chores. I’ll be glad to share the recipe with the list.

 

Hugs,

Linda

 

 

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Weisenbach [mailto:weiskids@...]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:21 PM
To: CountryLifeandHomesteading@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] intro

 

I am milking 2 goats right now. I used a young buck last fall & none of my Nubians got bred. So, I bought 2 milking Lamanchas this spring. I had some years ago & have wanted to get some again, so this was my excuse! :-)  I do raise the rabbits for food. I will sell them as pets or 4-H projects, but the surplus goes into the freezer. I also butcher the ducks & geese I raise. I found I can substitute either in a recipe where chicken is called for & no one knows the difference. I use rabbit in place of chicken too. This was the first year I butchered chickens. I want to save those for frying or the grill. I like the ducks & geese for pot pie. I have about 25 ducks I need to butcher as soon as it cools off again. I had 2 incubators going all spring. I have one going now with some turkey eggs. Wish me luck with those!

I will post some money saving things I do on another thread so this one doesn't get out of hand.

 

Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2

 

My hands aren't full, my heart is!!

 

http://www.geocities.com/weiskids/index.html

----- Original Message -----

From:
lwh

To: CountryLifeandHomesteading@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:42 AM

Subject: RE: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] intro

 

Hi Wendy,

Welcome to the list. I’m glad you found us. From you description it sounds like you have a wonderful place and plenty to do. J Do you milk any of your goats? Do you raise rabbits for food? I have thought about doing that. We had a pet rabbit a few years back. He lived on the house with us. He was mostly confined to the laundry room because rabbits like to chew on wires. They can be litter boxed trained just like a cat. I could let ‘bunny’ out in the summer months and call him in the evening and he would come to me. He mostly hung out with our cats when he was outside. He was a big rabbit and the cats never messed with him. Bunny even had our dog, a black lab, scared of him. If the dog got too close bunny would growl and thump the floor. Ever hear a rabbit growl?

 

Wow you come from a family of 11 children. My father in law was from a family of 13. Please post any money saving hints or tips to the list. Like you I’m trying to stretch our dollars. Look forward getting to know you.

 

Linda




#31 From: "terri_foutz" <terri_foutz@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:36 pm
Subject: Hi I am new; from Indiana
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Hi my name is Terri Foutz. My husband Jim & I live on a 10acre farm
in Freedom Indiana.  In between and sort of south of Bloomington and
Terre Haute.

We are interested in becoming more self sufficient and to get our
land in position to help pay for itself.  Neither of us grew up on a
farm but had some experiences with it through family.  We love it so
far.

We have 64 chickens..buff orpingtons, barred rocks, easter eggers, 3
mixed comets and bantams.  I want to get golden comets and more
orpingtons for laying and breeding.  Most of the ones we have we are
raising for meat...which we need to butcher pronto.  We would love to
have a plucker but just can't afford one.  It seems money is the main
issue in any of our decisions of purchases since we have been here.
That is alot of our problems. We never have enough extra money to
invest in the farm to make it produce for it's self. For instance we
have a small area penned but need to fence several acres. Building
supples are also needed. I am looking into farm operating loans etc.

We have 2 young goats here (nubian mixed march buckling and doe) And
are going to pick up a dry yearling (being bred right now) and a
small doe also a march baby I think she said.  I want to milk for
cheese, the milk, soap lotion etc.

We have 7 pheasants and had to rabbits but lost them both 2 wks ago
and need to get more.  We want to raise worms as a side "crop" and
for our garden/chickens.  My husband wants cows and pigs. I would
love to have Dexters...but sure don't have the money to start
breeding and raising those!!!

I love cooking, sewing, canning, gardening, decorating, crafts and
especially animals.  We have 2 yorkies, and 2 parakeets (supposed to
be tame but bought together so I could breed and sell those and
didn't know they would bond to each other and not us.) I think they
are both of same sex as we have had them several months without an
egg!!

Sorry to rattle on so....it is my nature!!!!   That and I have
a "Lucy" personality!  That's my husband's nickname for me....you'll
know why as you read my posts!! ha :)

Sincerely, Terri

#28 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:58 am
Subject: RE: Money saving tips & hints
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Wendy thanks for posting this. I will add a few when I return this evening. I will be out of town for the day.

 

Linda

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Weisenbach [mailto:weiskids@...]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:35 PM
To: Country Life & Homesteading
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Money saving tips & hints

 

Please everyone add to this post as I am sure everyone knows some ways to save money.

 

Some things I do:

 

Never turn down anything free unless it is total junk. I have made quite a bit of money off of things I got for free. Someone gave me 5 free pigs once. I fed them out. Put one in the freezer & sold the others. I have done that more than once.

Clothes for kids. I hardly ever buy except underwear & shoes. If I do buy it is yard-sales.

I make soap which we use & I also use it for my laundry soap. I have an easy recipe for laundry soap if anyone wants it.

I make extra money selling my soap & also homemade lotion.

I can & freeze everything I can. Someone gave my mom buckets & buckets of apples last year which we turned into gobs of applesauce. I never turn down free fruit because the kids love it.

I sell surplus stuff out of the garden. I also give quite a bit away to needy people or family. I have been taking some things into work.

I make homemade ice cream which is way better than store bought! Can never have too much ice cream with 6 kids in the house.

We buy our beef a half at a time from my brother-in-law. We just got a half. It figured up to $1.75 a pound! You can not buy anything that cheap in the store except hamburger around here. I have not gotten meat in the store for years! It's a nice chunk of change to come up with at once, but way cheaper in the long run. Besides being able to just go out in the freezer & pick out whatever you want that day. :-) I have a pig scheduled to go in August 13th to be butchered. We get those from a neighbor when we aren't feeding any out. I will put the ducks, geese, & chickens in the freezer also. Turkeys too if my hatch goes well. I may need to get another freezer!!

I use coupons & watch sales.

I go hardly anywhere to save money on gas. My parents are about 4 miles away so our entertainment is going to their house to fish or swim.

 

That's a few things we do. I will try to think of more & post them as I do. Would love to hear others!

 

 

Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2

 

My hands aren't full, my heart is!!

 

http://www.geocities.com/weiskids/index.html




#26 From: Wendy Weisenbach <weiskids@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:35 pm
Subject: Money saving tips & hints
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Please everyone add to this post as I am sure everyone knows some ways to save money.
 
Some things I do:
 
Never turn down anything free unless it is total junk. I have made quite a bit of money off of things I got for free. Someone gave me 5 free pigs once. I fed them out. Put one in the freezer & sold the others. I have done that more than once.
Clothes for kids. I hardly ever buy except underwear & shoes. If I do buy it is yard-sales.
I make soap which we use & I also use it for my laundry soap. I have an easy recipe for laundry soap if anyone wants it.
I make extra money selling my soap & also homemade lotion.
I can & freeze everything I can. Someone gave my mom buckets & buckets of apples last year which we turned into gobs of applesauce. I never turn down free fruit because the kids love it.
I sell surplus stuff out of the garden. I also give quite a bit away to needy people or family. I have been taking some things into work.
I make homemade ice cream which is way better than store bought! Can never have too much ice cream with 6 kids in the house.
We buy our beef a half at a time from my brother-in-law. We just got a half. It figured up to $1.75 a pound! You can not buy anything that cheap in the store except hamburger around here. I have not gotten meat in the store for years! It's a nice chunk of change to come up with at once, but way cheaper in the long run. Besides being able to just go out in the freezer & pick out whatever you want that day. :-) I have a pig scheduled to go in August 13th to be butchered. We get those from a neighbor when we aren't feeding any out. I will put the ducks, geese, & chickens in the freezer also. Turkeys too if my hatch goes well. I may need to get another freezer!!
I use coupons & watch sales.
I go hardly anywhere to save money on gas. My parents are about 4 miles away so our entertainment is going to their house to fish or swim.
 
That's a few things we do. I will try to think of more & post them as I do. Would love to hear others!
 
 
Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
 
My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
 

#25 From: Wendy Weisenbach <weiskids@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: intro
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I am milking 2 goats right now. I used a young buck last fall & none of my Nubians got bred. So, I bought 2 milking Lamanchas this spring. I had some years ago & have wanted to get some again, so this was my excuse! :-)  I do raise the rabbits for food. I will sell them as pets or 4-H projects, but the surplus goes into the freezer. I also butcher the ducks & geese I raise. I found I can substitute either in a recipe where chicken is called for & no one knows the difference. I use rabbit in place of chicken too. This was the first year I butchered chickens. I want to save those for frying or the grill. I like the ducks & geese for pot pie. I have about 25 ducks I need to butcher as soon as it cools off again. I had 2 incubators going all spring. I have one going now with some turkey eggs. Wish me luck with those!
I will post some money saving things I do on another thread so this one doesn't get out of hand.
 
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mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
 
My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
 
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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] intro

Hi Wendy,

Welcome to the list. I’m glad you found us. From you description it sounds like you have a wonderful place and plenty to do. J Do you milk any of your goats? Do you raise rabbits for food? I have thought about doing that. We had a pet rabbit a few years back. He lived on the house with us. He was mostly confined to the laundry room because rabbits like to chew on wires. They can be litter boxed trained just like a cat. I could let ‘bunny’ out in the summer months and call him in the evening and he would come to me. He mostly hung out with our cats when he was outside. He was a big rabbit and the cats never messed with him. Bunny even had our dog, a black lab, scared of him. If the dog got too close bunny would growl and thump the floor. Ever hear a rabbit growl?

 

Wow you come from a family of 11 children. My father in law was from a family of 13. Please post any money saving hints or tips to the list. Like you I’m trying to stretch our dollars. Look forward getting to know you.

 

Linda


#24 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:27 pm
Subject: uses for vinegar
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I pour vinegar in a glass measuring cup and heat in the microwave for about 1 minute. I then let it set with the doors closed for about 10-15 minutes. Then wipe down the inside. It really helps clean the microwave.

 

VINEGAR

Besides baking soda, vinegar has to be one of the best household
helpers. It's non-toxic (though you should still keep it out of
reach)and it's inexpensive. Since you won't be using it in food, buy
the cheapest vinegar you can find. It can be used plain, but it's
nice to infuse it with any extra herbs from the garden. The leaves
of lavender, sage, mint, thyme, oregano, lemon balm or rosemary make
a nice scent. Simply place the herbs in a large glass jar and pour
over the vinegar. Allow it to sit for 4-6 weeks, then strain and use
in any of the cleaner recipes and tips.

-Fill a standard size spray bottle with vinegar and 3 tablespoons of
salt. Spray on copper pots, allow to stand for 5 minutes or so then
rub clean. If they are really stained use a paste made of salt and
vinegar to clean.

-Mix 3 cups of olive or vegetable oil and 1 cup vinegar. Mix together
and use with a soft clean cloth to polish furniture.

-To clean chrome and stainless steel simply dip a soft clean cloth
in vinegar and wipe the surface clean.

-Pour vinegar on your wooden cutting boards and with a clean damp
sponge wipe in one direction into the sink to clean. Wipe one more
time with a rinsed out sponge, then dry with a clean towel.

-To clean clay pots and saucers fill the sink with cold water and
about 2/3 cup of vinegar. Soak the pots and saucers for 30-60
minutes to remove stains. You can also clean with a brush as well,
then rinse.

-Every year or so run a gallon of vinegar through the washing machine
to clean it and clear out the hoses. Run the machine through the warm
wash cycle empty and then add the vinegar during the rinse cycle.

-Clean the dishwasher too!. Run a cup of vinegar through the entire
cycle every month or so to clean build up.

-Jar that hold contents such as mayonnaise, mustard and other
products often retain that smell. If you are reusing the jars, rinse
them with vinegar after washing, then with clean water to reduce the
odor.

-Rub vinegar on your hands just before and after slicing onions to
get rid of the onion smell.

-To clean ceramic tiles mix 1/2 cup of vinegar in a 1/2 bucket of
warm water. Use to clean the tiles for a nice shine.

-Add 1/4 cup of vinegar to a sink of hot water and dish soap. Clean
your casseroles, pots, pans and stove plates. Use a rag or sponge
and use the same water to clean the stove surface.

-To clean mildew that is built up in the shower tiles use vinegar
and a toothbrush to clean the tough to get to areas.

-If you have a tough load of dirty clothes that are musty or for some
reason extra soiled like work clothing can be add 1/2 cup vinegar to
the wash cycle.



 

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#23 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:42 pm
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Hi Wendy,

Welcome to the list. I’m glad you found us. From you description it sounds like you have a wonderful place and plenty to do. J Do you milk any of your goats? Do you raise rabbits for food? I have thought about doing that. We had a pet rabbit a few years back. He lived on the house with us. He was mostly confined to the laundry room because rabbits like to chew on wires. They can be litter boxed trained just like a cat. I could let ‘bunny’ out in the summer months and call him in the evening and he would come to me. He mostly hung out with our cats when he was outside. He was a big rabbit and the cats never messed with him. Bunny even had our dog, a black lab, scared of him. If the dog got too close bunny would growl and thump the floor. Ever hear a rabbit growl?

 

Wow you come from a family of 11 children. My father in law was from a family of 13. Please post any money saving hints or tips to the list. Like you I’m trying to stretch our dollars. Look forward getting to know you.

 

Linda         

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Weisenbach [mailto:weiskids@...]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:22 AM
To: Country Life & Homesteading
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] intro

 

Hi! My name is Wendy. I am a stay-at-home mom of 6 kids. I have been married 14 years to Jim. We own 3 1/2 acres in southeast Indiana. I found this list doing a search for homesteading groups.

My interests are all over the place!! :-)  I raise Nubian, Lamancha, & Pygmy goats. Also Jacob sheep, English Spot rabbits, chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese, & guineas. I also have 2 miniature donkeys & 2 llamas. Besides the 3 dogs & a bunch of barn cats. I garden & can the items from the garden. I try to stretch our dollars as far as I can. That is getting harder & harder to do. :-( 

I do work one night a week at an assisted living place for the elderly. Jim lost his job in January so I picked up a part time job. I was working 2 nights a week. Anyway, he went back to work in April, but I decided to keep one night. I dearly love the residents there. :-) I still consider myself a stay-at-home mom because working 3rd shift while they are sleeping is not affecting the kids.

Current projects going on.........gosh, too many! I just ordered 85 more Cornish rock broilers. I butchered 40 this spring & only have 2 left in the freezer. Sold them mostly to family. I have family members that want more, so I decided to do another batch this fall. I am the middle kid out of 11 & we all live within 15 miles of each other, so when I mention family, it's a lot! I also hope to get some fence put up this fall. We have a lot of animals, but most of the 3 1/2 acres are pasture. What's not, will be!

Besides all of that, I love to do counted cross-stitch, crochet, read, surf the web, & a lot of other things. I am glad I found this group!

Looking forward to getting to know some new people. :-)

 

Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2

 

My hands aren't full, my heart is!!

 

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#22 From: Wendy Weisenbach <weiskids@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:21 pm
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Hi! My name is Wendy. I am a stay-at-home mom of 6 kids. I have been married 14 years to Jim. We own 3 1/2 acres in southeast Indiana. I found this list doing a search for homesteading groups.
My interests are all over the place!! :-)  I raise Nubian, Lamancha, & Pygmy goats. Also Jacob sheep, English Spot rabbits, chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese, & guineas. I also have 2 miniature donkeys & 2 llamas. Besides the 3 dogs & a bunch of barn cats. I garden & can the items from the garden. I try to stretch our dollars as far as I can. That is getting harder & harder to do. :-( 
I do work one night a week at an assisted living place for the elderly. Jim lost his job in January so I picked up a part time job. I was working 2 nights a week. Anyway, he went back to work in April, but I decided to keep one night. I dearly love the residents there. :-) I still consider myself a stay-at-home mom because working 3rd shift while they are sleeping is not affecting the kids.
Current projects going on.........gosh, too many! I just ordered 85 more Cornish rock broilers. I butchered 40 this spring & only have 2 left in the freezer. Sold them mostly to family. I have family members that want more, so I decided to do another batch this fall. I am the middle kid out of 11 & we all live within 15 miles of each other, so when I mention family, it's a lot! I also hope to get some fence put up this fall. We have a lot of animals, but most of the 3 1/2 acres are pasture. What's not, will be!
Besides all of that, I love to do counted cross-stitch, crochet, read, surf the web, & a lot of other things. I am glad I found this group!
Looking forward to getting to know some new people. :-)
 
Wendy Weisenbach
wife to: Jim
mommy to:
Samantha-13, Tommy-13
Luke-8, Katie-5,
Philip-3, &  Rebekah-2
 
My hands aren't full, my heart is!!
 

#20 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:14 pm
Subject: copy cat recipes
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From another list I’m on….

CopyCat Soups & Appetizers
Bloomin' Onion
(Like Outback)
Canadian Cheese Soup
(Like Houston's)
Cheese Soup
(Like Denny's®)
Clam Chowder
(Like Red Lobster®)
Greek Lemon Chicken Soup
(Like Michael's)
Onion Soup
(Like Bennigan's®)
Pasta Roma Soup
(Like Olive Garden®)
Potato Soup
(Like Bennigan's®)
Seafood Pasta Soup
(Like Olive Garden®)
Tomato Florentine Soup
(Like Shoney's®)

Stuffing
(Like Boston Chicken®)
Macaroni Salad Like the Colonel's
Hashbrown Sidedish
(Like Cracker Barrel®)
Creamed Spinach
(Like Boston Chicken®)
Cucumber Salad
(Like Boston Chicken®)
Dill Potato Wedges
(Like Boston Chicken®)
Garfield Pasta Salad
KFC
® Coleslaw
Macaroni or Potato Salad
(Like KFC®)
Dirty Rice
(Like Popeye's®)
Corn Souffle
(Like Stouffer's®)
Onion Rings
(Like Tony Roma's®)
Long Grain & Wild Rice Mix
(Like Uncle Ben's®)

Copycat Lunch & Dinner Recipes
Alfredo Fettucine
(Like Olive Garden®)
Baked Potato Toppings
(Like Wendy's®)
Capellini Pomodoro
(Like Olive Garden®)
Capellini Primavera
(Like Olive Garden®)
Cavatini
(Like Pizza Hut®)
Chicken on a Biscuit
Chicken Like the Colonel's
Chicken Marsala
(Like Olive Garden®)
Fried Chicken
(Like Church's®)
Con Zucchini
(Like Olive Garden®)
Fish Nuggets
Fried Chicken
(Like Popeye's®)
Hawaiian Chicken
(Like Steak & Ale®)
Heart-Healthy Chicken
(Like Olive Garden®)
Lasagna
(Like Olive Garden®)
Neopolitan Ziti
(Like Olive Garden®)
Olive Garden
® Chicken
Pasta with Broccoli
(Like Olive Garden®)
Pasta Fagioli
(Like Olive Garden®)
Rotisserie Chicken
(Like Boston Chicken/KFC®)
Seafood Torcello
(Like Olive Garden®)
Shrimp Benihana
Shrimp Cristoforo
(Like Olive Garden®)
Shrimp Primavera
(Like Olive Garden®)
Spaghetti Carbonara
(Like Olive Garden®)
Spaghetti Sauce
(Like Olive Garden®)
Cafe Spicy Chicken Pasta
Steak Benihana
®
Tortellini Di Forni
(Like Olive Garden®)

Copycat Recipes for Sauces & Dressings
BBQ Sauce
(Like Kenny Rogers®)
Chicken Gravy
(Like Big Boy's®)
Creamy Caesar Dressing
(Like Red Lobster®)
Durkee's
® Famous Sauce
Ginger Sauce
(Like Benihana®)
Honey-Mustard Sauce
(Like Mcdonald's®)
Hot Bacon Dressing
(Like Bennigan's®)
House Dressing
(Like Mcdonald's® )
House Dressing
(Like Olive Garden®)
Magic Mustard Sauce
(Like Benihana®)
Honey Butter
(Like Marie Callendar's®)
Mild Salsa
(Like Chi Chi's®)
Mizithra Cheese Sauce
(Like Spaghetti Factory®)
Pork Chop Sauce Like the Outback
Ranch Dressing Mix
(Like Hidden Valley®)
Hot Fudge Sauce
(Like Schraffts®)
Shrimp Scampi Sauce
(Like Olive Garden®)
Soy Sauce Dressing
(Like Tgi Friday's®)
Spicy Mustard
(Like Howard Johnson®)
Steak & Ale
® Marinade
Superb Salad Dressing
(Like Benihana®)
(Like Red Lobster®)
Sweet and Sour Sauce
(Like Mcdonald's®)
Tartar Sauce
(Like Red Lobster®)
Tomato and Spice Dressing
(Like Big Boy's®)

Copycat Dessert Recipes
Easy Cheesecake
(Like Entenmann's®)
Apple Crumb Cake
(Like Entenmann's®)
Fat-Free Chocolate Cupcakes
(Like Entenmann's®)
Pound Cake
(Like Entenmann's®)
Hopeless Twinkles
Keebler
® Soft Batch Chocolate Chip Cookies
Mrs. Field's
® Chocolate Chip Cookies
Tiramisu Dessert
(Like Olive Garden®)
Carrot Square Cake
(Like Sara Lee®)
Chocolate Cupcakes
(Like Sara Lee®)
Crumb Cake
(Like Sara Lee®)
Macaroons
(Like Sara Lee®)
Original Cream Cheesecake
(Like Sara Lee®)
Pound Cake
(Like Sara Lee®)
Butterscotch Cookies
(Like Schraffts®)
http://www.secretnotions.com/
http://www.recipeinabag.com/

Click here: Too Hot to Cook Recipes - No Heat Recipes and Meal Ideas
 

 

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#18 From: K green <farmergreengirl@...>
Date: Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: announement
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not right now I dont. I have only tried herbs one time and they just all died. LOL I need to get brave and try it again tho.
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Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 7:36 AM
Subject: RE: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] announement

Hey Kris,

Do you plants any herbs in your garden?

 

Linda

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 

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From: K green [mailto:farmergreengirl@...]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:28 AM
To: CountryLifeandHomesteading@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] announement

 

Hi everyone! <waving> I'm Kris. Im from Wyoming where I live with my Husband Roy on our small homestead/farm. At the moment we have our 4 dogs, 2 turkeys, 40 chickens and 2 rabbits. And yes I love my chickens! LOL 12 of the 40 are my laying crew with 2 roosters. The rest are all going in the freezer this Fall. I am always bringing home something else LOL I do believe I am babied out for this year tho LOL I also have a big garden and several flower gardens. Looking forward to meeting everyone!!!

Kris

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Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] announement

 

I have added Kris as another moderator to help with the list. As you will see she is a great gal who like me loves chickens J Welcome Kris!

 

Hugs,

Linda

 

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#16 From: K green <farmergreengirl@...>
Date: Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:27 pm
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Hi everyone! <waving> I'm Kris. Im from Wyoming where I live with my Husband Roy on our small homestead/farm. At the moment we have our 4 dogs, 2 turkeys, 40 chickens and 2 rabbits. And yes I love my chickens! LOL 12 of the 40 are my laying crew with 2 roosters. The rest are all going in the freezer this Fall. I am always bringing home something else LOL I do believe I am babied out for this year tho LOL I also have a big garden and several flower gardens. Looking forward to meeting everyone!!!
Kris
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I have added Kris as another moderator to help with the list. As you will see she is a great gal who like me loves chickens J Welcome Kris!

 

Hugs,

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#15 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:32 am
Subject: weeds
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Kill weeds and fungi with natural, frugal methods

 

http://frugalliving.about.com/od/gardeningfrugally/a/071304.htm

 

 

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#12 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:16 pm
Subject: what's everyone doing today?
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Yesterday’s storms passing through have made today a beautiful blue sky less hot and humid day. The little dog and took a walk around 7 this morning. I hope to finish mowing. There’s nothing like the sweet smell of freshly cut grass.

 

Linda  

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving

safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in

broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming-- WOW--What a Ride!"

~Hunter S. Thomson~

 


#11 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:54 am
Subject: home remedy site
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Medicine began in the kitchen. Now hundreds of years later, it is going
back there! Did you know that every cookbook before WWII had whole
chapters related to health, they even included how to make lotions and
potions.
http://www.homemakingcottage.com/health/

 

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#10 From: "Celeste" <mrscmilitzer@...>
Date: Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:48 am
Subject: Dog Don'ts
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Good Morning Everyone,
Being a Florida native, I really enjoyed the piece on Florida years back.
 
I raise Corgis and have been gathering things for my website for awhile and thought I'd just post
in regards to the onions. It is funny how one dog would love them and dig them up for himself but here they are on this list.
 Definite Don'ts for Dogs.
*Chocolate: Can be poisonous for pets.
*Onion: is also dangerous for pets and can cause anemia.
*Dairy products: Cause diarrhea in lactose-intolerant dogs.
*Bones (from poultry, and fish): May splinter and stick in the
  throat or cut  into the intestine.
*Grapes: Can be associated with renal failure.
 
 
 

 Grapes and Raisins 
 

WARNING
This week I had the first case in history of raisin toxicity ever
seen at MedVet.  My patient was a 56 pound, 5 yr old male neutered
lab mix who ate half a canister of raisins sometime between 7:30 AM
and 4 :30 PM on Tuesday.  He started with vomiting, diarrhea and
shaking about 1 AM on Wednesday but the owner didn't call my
emergency service until 7 AM.  I had heard somewhere about raisins
AND grapes causing acute renal failure but hadn't seen any formal
paper on the subject.  We had her bring the dog in immediately.  In
the meantime, I called the ER service at MedVet, and the doctor there
was like me---had heard something about it, but....Anyway, we
contacted the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center and they
said to give I V fluids at 1 1/2 times maintenance and watch the
kidney values for the next 48-72 hours.  The dog's BUN (blood urea
nitrogen level) was already at 32 (normal less than 27) and
creatinine over 5 (1.9 is the high end of normal).  Both are monitors
of kidney function in the bloodstream.  We placed an I V catheter and
started the fluids.  Rechecked the renal values at 5 PM and the BUN
was over 40 and creatinine over 7 with no urine production after a
liter of fluids.  At the point I felt the dog was in acute renal
failure and sent him on to MedVet for a urinary catheter to monitor
urine output overnight as well as overnight care.  He started
vomiting again overnight at MedVet and his renal values have
continued to increase daily.  He produced urine when given lasix as a
diuretic.  He was on 3 different anti-vomiting medications and they
still couldn't control his vomiting.  Today his urine output
decreased again, his BUN was over 120, his creatinine was at 10, his
phosphorus was very elevated and his blood pressure, which had been
staying around 150, skyrocketed to 220.  He continued to vomit and
the owners elected euthanasia.
 
This is a very sad case--great dog, great owners who had no idea
raisins could be a toxin.  Please alert everyone you know who has a
dog of this very serious risk.  Poison control said as few as 7
raisins could be toxic.  Many people I know give their dogs grapes or
raisins as treats. Any exposure should give rise to immediate concern. 
 
Hope you all have a wonderful day,
Celeste
 
 

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#9 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:24 am
Subject: Did anyone see Venus
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Did anyone see Venus this morning?

 

Space Weather News for July 13, 2004

http://spaceweather.com

 

SOLAR ACTIVITY WATCH: The Sun has been mostly quiet for weeks, but this

could soon change. One or more big sunspots are turning toward Earth,

raising the possibility of solar flares, geomagnetic storms and auroras in

the days and weeks ahead.

 

MORNING STAR: It's not easy waking up at dawn, but this week it's worth

doing. Venus, the "morning star," is absolutely brilliant in the eastern

sky around sunrise. On July 14th, Venus and the crescent moon will appear

side by side--a lovely sight. On July 15th Venus reaches maximum

brightness.  The planet is delightful to see through a telescope; it looks

like a tiny crescent Moon.

 

Visit http://SpaceWeather.com for more information, solar activity updates

and sky maps.

 

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#8 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:21 am
Subject: A Look Back
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I came across this and posting with authors permission. I didn’t know a thing about leather britches until I was married and saw my mother in law take a needle and thread and string her green beans. She would hang them in the pantry to dry.

 

I go by the name of Mama June.  I descend from one of the
early Florida pioneers.  My family has been in Florida since the early
1830's.  I guess I was fortunate that the early life was passed down the
chain to me.  My great grandmother was born around 1839/40 and my
grandmother in 1870 and Mama in 1908.  And my great great grandmother
was born in the Maryland/DC area in the early 1800's.  Anyway Mama
learned from her Grandmother and Great Grandmother and her Mama.  Mama
passed down all that she was taught to me.  And my Grandmother lived to
be 96 and since we lived with her I learned much from her.  In those
days there was no country store and they had to travel many miles to buy
what staples they could afford.  All the roads were nothing but trails
through the woods or wagon trails.  The towns that now exist in Florida
were mainly non-existent, and the ones that did was hardly more than
puddle jumps.  It was just some puddle jumps were larger than others.
And times back then was hard, much harder than even the depression would
bring on years later.

In the early days the settlers learned the value of putting up what they
grew or raised.  They would can if they had the jars and equipment to do
so.  Mostly they dried what they could.  One of the staple goods they
dried was called leather britches.  This was green beans that they used a
needle and thread to string up on long strings and hang up in the
rafters to dry and when they wanted some to eat, they would take them
down, soak them for a period of time and then cook.  Meat was preserved
in several ways.  A smoke house was a most in all households and all the
meat was smoked and cured then hung up inside the house in rafters or
left in the smoke house.  They also preserved meat and fish by salting
it down in wooden barrels and wooden boxes.  Sausage was made and cooked
then preserved in the lard made from the animal it came from.  The
sausage was buried deep in a crock and hot lard poured over it, then
when they wanted some, the dug down got out what they wanted and they
covered the rest back up with the lard.  Of course this is only a few of
the ways that they did things.

During the depression Mama and Grandma talked about the cost of what
they could afford to buy.  Mama said if she had 2.50 to buy groceries
with she was lucky.  Bacon she said could be bought for about .03 a
pound, steak for .08 pound, 10 pounds of flour she said could be bought
for about .10 cents.  Boy has prices changed since then.  During the
depression they hunted the land and picked and cook wild edibles.  I
remember during the early 1940's when many things were rationed and they
had books with coupons for this.  Sugar was rationed, I believe so was
salt. People couldn't buy tires for the vehicles so they repaired what
they had or wrapped the wheels with stuff to make due with.

As for refrigeration we didn't even know it existed until the late
1940's before then we had huge chunks of ice brought in and placed in
the old ice box.    Which lasted a few days until it melted then more
ice and the procedure started all over again.

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 


#7 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:11 am
Subject: RE: Feeding pets human food
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Hi Jim,

Thanks for sharing the salty dog story. Gin had a similar affect on me, been many years but still can’t touch it. I guess that makes me as smart as the dog? J I have always heard that chocolate is bad for dogs and I’ve never given any to “the little dog” as I affectionately call her. She loves spaghetti and the sauce has both onions and garlic and so far I haven’t seen any problems from it.

 

Linda

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McQuain [mailto:jkmcquain@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:34 PM
To: CountryLifeandHomesteading
Subject: Re: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Feeding pets human food

 

I would like to comment on two of the proscribed foods for dogs.  First onions:  In the late 50s my cousin had two boxers.  The youngest, about 3 years old at the time, visited the garden every chance he got and dug up Bermuda onions.  He chowed them down with no apparent ill effects.  He lived to a ripe old age.

 

Secondly:  Alcohol.  When I was stationed at Nouassuer AFB near Casablanca, Morocco, I habitually visited the beer hall every evening at 1700 hours (that's 5:00 PM for civilians).  Almost every day a small terrier came to cadge beer from the patrons.  When he approached anyone's table they poured beer into an ashtray and set it down on the floor for him.  He would contentedly lap up all the beer we poured for him.  Then one fateful evening he accompanied my buddies and me to our Nissan hut where we opened a 40 oz bottle of Smirnov and made Salty Dogs (that is grapefruit juice and vodka).  Apparently the dog part appealed to the puppy's fancy because he proceeded to lap up all we could pour for him.  Like anyone who overindulges he became very unsteady on his feet.  It was a week before he came to the beer hall and we could never entice him to sample vodka again.

 

Jim McQuain
2565 S Sheridan Blvd
Apt 18
Lakewood, CO  80227-4046
303-842-9018

 



#6 From: "Jim McQuain" <jkmcquain@...>
Date: Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: Feeding pets human food
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I would like to comment on two of the proscribed foods for dogs.  First onions:  In the late 50s my cousin had two boxers.  The youngest, about 3 years old at the time, visited the garden every chance he got and dug up Bermuda onions.  He chowed them down with no apparent ill effects.  He lived to a ripe old age.
 
Secondly:  Alcohol.  When I was stationed at Nouassuer AFB near Casablanca, Morocco, I habitually visited the beer hall every evening at 1700 hours (that's 5:00 PM for civilians).  Almost every day a small terrier came to cadge beer from the patrons.  When he approached anyone's table they poured beer into an ashtray and set it down on the floor for him.  He would contentedly lap up all the beer we poured for him.  Then one fateful evening he accompanied my buddies and me to our Nissan hut where we opened a 40 oz bottle of Smirnov and made Salty Dogs (that is grapefruit juice and vodka).  Apparently the dog part appealed to the puppy's fancy because he proceeded to lap up all we could pour for him.  Like anyone who overindulges he became very unsteady on his feet.  It was a week before he came to the beer hall and we could never entice him to sample vodka again.
 
Jim McQuain
2565 S Sheridan Blvd
Apt 18
Lakewood, CO  80227-4046
303-842-9018
----- Original Message -----
From: lwh
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 6:42 AM
Subject: [CountryLifeandHomesteading] Feeding pets human food

Feeding pets food that we enjoy is not only wrong, it can also be fatal. There are some foodstuffs that humans relish which cause illness and death if eaten by pets.

Chocolate, macadamia nuts and onions are good examples. Each of these foods contains chemicals which rarely cause problems for humans, but for dogs, these same chemicals can be deadly.


Chocolate toxicity   Top
Chocolate contains theobromine, a compound that is a cardiac stimulant and a diuretic.

When affected by an overdose of chocolate, a dog can become excited and hyperactive. Due to the diuretic effect, it may pass large volumes of urine and it will be unusually thirsty. Vomiting and diarrhea are also common. The effect of theobromine on the heart is the most dangerous effect. Theobromine will either increase the dog’s heart rate or may cause the heart to beat irregularly. Death is quite possible, especially with exercise.

After their pet has eaten a large quantity of chocolate, many pet owners assume their pet is unaffected. However, the signs of sickness may not be seen for several hours, with death following within twenty-four hours.

Cocoa powder and cooking chocolate are the most toxic forms. A 10-kilogram dog can be seriously affected if it eats a quarter of a 250gm packet of cocoa powder or half of a 250gm block of cooking chocolate. These forms of chocolate contain ten times more theobromine than milk chocolate. Thus, a chocolate mud cake could be a real health risk for a small dog. Even licking a substantial part of the chocolate icing from a cake can make a dog unwell.

Semi-sweet chocolate and dark chocolate are the next most dangerous forms, with milk chocolate being the least dangerous. A dog needs to eat more than a 250gm block of milk chocolate to be affected. Obviously, the smaller the dog, the less it needs to eat.


Onion and garlic poisoning   Top
Onions and garlic are other dangerous food ingredients that cause sickness in dogs, cats and also livestock. Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate. Onions are more of a danger.

Pets affected by onion toxicity will develop haemolytic anemia, where the pet’s red blood cells burst while circulating in its body.

At first, pets affected by onion poisoning show gastroenteritis with vomiting and diarrhea. They will show no interest in food and will be dull and weak. The red pigment from the burst blood cells appears in an affected animal’s urine and it becomes breathless. The breathlessness occurs because the red blood cells that carry oxygen through the body are reduced in number.

The poisoning occurs a few days after the pet has eaten the onion. All forms of onion can be a problem including dehydrated onions, raw onions, cooked onions and table scraps containing cooked onions and/or garlic. Left over pizza, Chinese dishes and commercial baby food containing onion, sometimes fed as a supplement to young pets, can cause illness.

Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion

While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness.


The danger of macadamia nuts   Top
Macadamia nuts are another concern. A recent paper written by Dr. Ross McKenzie, a Veterinary Pathologist with the Department of Primary Industries, points to the danger of raw and roasted macadamia nuts for pets.

The toxic compound is unknown but the affect of macadamia nuts is to cause locomotory difficulties. Dogs develop a tremor of the skeletal muscles, and weakness or paralysis of the hindquarters. Affected dogs are often unable to rise and are distressed, usually panting. Some affected dogs have swollen limbs and show pain when the limbs are manipulated.

Dogs have been affected by eating as few as six macadamia kernels (nuts without the shell) while others had eaten approximately forty kernels. Some dogs had also been given macadamia butter.

Luckily, the muscle weakness, while painful, seems to be of short duration and all dogs recovered from the toxicity. All dogs were taken to their veterinary surgeon.

Pets owners should not assume that human food is always safe for pets. When it comes to chocolate, onions, garlic and macadamia nuts, such foods should be given in only small quantities, or not at all. Be sure that your pets can’t get into your stash of chocolates, that food scraps are disposed of carefully to prevent onion and garlic toxicity and that your dog is prevented from picking up macadamia nuts if you have a tree in your garden.

 

Other potential dangers   Top

·  Pear pips, the kernels of plums, peaches and apricots, apple core pips (contain cyanogenic glycosides resulting in cyanide poisoning)

·  Potato peelings and green looking potatoes

·  Rhubarb leaves

·  Mouldy/spoiled foods

·  Alcohol

·  Yeast dough

·  Coffee grounds, beans & tea (caffeine)

·  Hops (used in home brewing)

·  Tomato leaves & stems (green parts)

·  Broccoli (in large amounts)

·  Raisins and grapes

·  Cigarettes, tobacco, cigars

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dr Cam Day BVSc BSc MACVSc is a veterinary surgeon, an animal behaviour consultant and media presenter. In 1995 he qualified as a Member of the Australian College of Veterinary Scientists in the discipline of Animal Behavior and is one of only 15 veterinarians with this qualification in Australia. He works full time in animal behavior management in Queensland.

Image kindly supplied by Bayer Australia Limited

 

 

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#5 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:31 pm
Subject: trivia
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1. Butterflies taste with their feet.

2. A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why.

3. In 10 minutes, a hurricane releases more energy than
all of the world's nuclear weapons combined.

4. On average, 100 people choke to death on ball-point
pens every year.

5. On average people fear spiders more than they do death.

6. Ninety percent of New York City cabbies are recently
arrived immigrants.

7. Thirty-five percent of the people who use personal ads
for dating are already married.

8. Elephants are the only animals that can't jump.

9. Only one person in two billion will live to be 116 or
older.

10. It's possible to lead a cow upstairs ... but not downstairs.

11. Women blink nearly twice as much as men.

12. It's physically impossible for you to lick your elbow.

13. The Main Library at Indiana University sinks over an inch every
year because when it was built, engineers failed to take into
account the weight of all the books that would occupy the building.

14. A snail can sleep for three years..

15. No word in the English language rhymes with "MONTH."

16. Average life span of a major league baseball: 7 pitches.

17. Our eyes are always the same size from birth, but our
nose and ears never stop growing. SCARY!!!

18. The electric chair was invented by a dentist.

19. All polar bears are left-handed.

20. In ancient Egypt, priests plucked EVERY hair from their
bodies, including their eyebrows and eyelashes.

21. An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain.

22. TYPEWRITER is the longest word that can be made using
the letters only on one row of the keyboard.

23. "Go," is the shortest complete sentence in the English
language.

24. If Barbie were life-size, her measurements would be
39-23-33.  She would stand seven feet, two inches tall.

25. A crocodile cannot stick its tongue out .

26. The cigarette lighter was invented before the match.

27. Americans on average eat 18 acres of pizza every day.

28. Almost everyone who reads this email will try to lick
their elbow.

Don't forget to pass these weird facts on to everyone
you know. They will get a kick out of it !!

 

"Forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and

the winds long to play with your hair."

~~Khalil Gibran

 


#3 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:13 pm
Subject: How To Grow Plants from Cuttings
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How To Grow Plants from Cuttings
Many plants will readily grow from stem cuttings, and
it's easy to do.
Click here: How to Grow Plants from Cuttings - Printer Friendly
http://gardening.about.com/cs/techniques/ht/takecuttings_p.htm

 

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#2 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:42 pm
Subject: Feeding pets human food
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Feeding pets food that we enjoy is not only wrong, it can also be fatal. There are some foodstuffs that humans relish which cause illness and death if eaten by pets.

Chocolate, macadamia nuts and onions are good examples. Each of these foods contains chemicals which rarely cause problems for humans, but for dogs, these same chemicals can be deadly.


Chocolate toxicity   Top
Chocolate contains theobromine, a compound that is a cardiac stimulant and a diuretic.

When affected by an overdose of chocolate, a dog can become excited and hyperactive. Due to the diuretic effect, it may pass large volumes of urine and it will be unusually thirsty. Vomiting and diarrhea are also common. The effect of theobromine on the heart is the most dangerous effect. Theobromine will either increase the dog’s heart rate or may cause the heart to beat irregularly. Death is quite possible, especially with exercise.

After their pet has eaten a large quantity of chocolate, many pet owners assume their pet is unaffected. However, the signs of sickness may not be seen for several hours, with death following within twenty-four hours.

Cocoa powder and cooking chocolate are the most toxic forms. A 10-kilogram dog can be seriously affected if it eats a quarter of a 250gm packet of cocoa powder or half of a 250gm block of cooking chocolate. These forms of chocolate contain ten times more theobromine than milk chocolate. Thus, a chocolate mud cake could be a real health risk for a small dog. Even licking a substantial part of the chocolate icing from a cake can make a dog unwell.

Semi-sweet chocolate and dark chocolate are the next most dangerous forms, with milk chocolate being the least dangerous. A dog needs to eat more than a 250gm block of milk chocolate to be affected. Obviously, the smaller the dog, the less it needs to eat.


Onion and garlic poisoning   Top
Onions and garlic are other dangerous food ingredients that cause sickness in dogs, cats and also livestock. Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate. Onions are more of a danger.

Pets affected by onion toxicity will develop haemolytic anemia, where the pet’s red blood cells burst while circulating in its body.

At first, pets affected by onion poisoning show gastroenteritis with vomiting and diarrhea. They will show no interest in food and will be dull and weak. The red pigment from the burst blood cells appears in an affected animal’s urine and it becomes breathless. The breathlessness occurs because the red blood cells that carry oxygen through the body are reduced in number.

The poisoning occurs a few days after the pet has eaten the onion. All forms of onion can be a problem including dehydrated onions, raw onions, cooked onions and table scraps containing cooked onions and/or garlic. Left over pizza, Chinese dishes and commercial baby food containing onion, sometimes fed as a supplement to young pets, can cause illness.

Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion

While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness.


The danger of macadamia nuts   Top
Macadamia nuts are another concern. A recent paper written by Dr. Ross McKenzie, a Veterinary Pathologist with the Department of Primary Industries, points to the danger of raw and roasted macadamia nuts for pets.

The toxic compound is unknown but the affect of macadamia nuts is to cause locomotory difficulties. Dogs develop a tremor of the skeletal muscles, and weakness or paralysis of the hindquarters. Affected dogs are often unable to rise and are distressed, usually panting. Some affected dogs have swollen limbs and show pain when the limbs are manipulated.

Dogs have been affected by eating as few as six macadamia kernels (nuts without the shell) while others had eaten approximately forty kernels. Some dogs had also been given macadamia butter.

Luckily, the muscle weakness, while painful, seems to be of short duration and all dogs recovered from the toxicity. All dogs were taken to their veterinary surgeon.

Pets owners should not assume that human food is always safe for pets. When it comes to chocolate, onions, garlic and macadamia nuts, such foods should be given in only small quantities, or not at all. Be sure that your pets can’t get into your stash of chocolates, that food scraps are disposed of carefully to prevent onion and garlic toxicity and that your dog is prevented from picking up macadamia nuts if you have a tree in your garden.

 

Other potential dangers   Top

·  Pear pips, the kernels of plums, peaches and apricots, apple core pips (contain cyanogenic glycosides resulting in cyanide poisoning)

·  Potato peelings and green looking potatoes

·  Rhubarb leaves

·  Mouldy/spoiled foods

·  Alcohol

·  Yeast dough

·  Coffee grounds, beans & tea (caffeine)

·  Hops (used in home brewing)

·  Tomato leaves & stems (green parts)

·  Broccoli (in large amounts)

·  Raisins and grapes

·  Cigarettes, tobacco, cigars

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dr Cam Day BVSc BSc MACVSc is a veterinary surgeon, an animal behaviour consultant and media presenter. In 1995 he qualified as a Member of the Australian College of Veterinary Scientists in the discipline of Animal Behavior and is one of only 15 veterinarians with this qualification in Australia. He works full time in animal behavior management in Queensland.

Image kindly supplied by Bayer Australia Limited

 

 

The limits of the world are the ones you perceive.

 


#1 From: "lwh" <eveapple@...>
Date: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:25 pm
Subject: welcome to the list
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Good Morning all.  I’m Linda creator and moderator of this list.  I live in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.  So you can know a little about me… married to Randy, we have 4 daughters and 4 grandchildren. Randy and I        live in a small log home that is a little over 100 years old on 3 acres. I own and moderate a few other lists at Yahoo, FreeAnnounce, Mail-Lists-Only, Does It Work, and Crafts of Life.  I co-moderate Pioneer Outreach with a good friend. I work as a secretary in a high school guidance office. I love to hike and canoe.  I am trying to learn the art of making jewelry. I also love to collect quotes. I am interested in gardening and a basic back to earth approach. When Randy and I were first married we had a large garden from which I canned. I made jams and jelly. We also butchered. As our children grew and income began to increase we got away from much of that. I find that I miss a lot of this and want to get back into it. I’m fortunate that I don’t work during the summer months and this summer I am trying to redo our bedroom and laundry room. Are there any fishers or hunters on the list? I think I could seriously get involved with fishing. I look forward to meeting you all.  Please feel free to ask any questions you may want to know about the list or me.

 

Linda

"We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us."

-Joseph Campbell

 


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