Lo

> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM, martin trotter <trott3r@...> wrote:
> >> You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
> >> interested in.
> >
> > Can i download a rss feed onto a palm though for offline reading?
>
> I think Plucker may do the job:
>
> http://www.plkr.org/
>
> "Plucker is an offline Web and free eBook reader for Palm OS® based
> handheld devices, Windows Mobile (PocketPC) devices and other handheld
> PDAs"

Tried it but its only taking in the home page despite me putting 10 into max
depth in preferences.

Have you used it much?

Does it struggle on modern webpages like with php generated links?

Maybe it only work son html links rather than generated links like php?

Martin N

Lo,

> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM, martin trotter <trott3r@...> wrote:
> >> You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
> >> interested in.
> >
> > Can i download a rss feed onto a palm though for offline reading?
>
> I think Plucker may do the job:
>
> http://www.plkr.org/
>
> "Plucker is an offline Web and free eBook reader for Palm OS® based
> handheld devices, Windows Mobile (PocketPC) devices and other handheld
> PDAs"
> ...
> "content can be created for Plucker from many sources, including RSS,
> RDF, text files, HTML, PDF, and many other file formats."

Thanks looks like it will do the job of avantgo for in the morning sync before
go out to work.

Could do with it being in email so i can avoid the getting up 10 mins early in
morning :)

Still an interesting app so thanks

Martin N

Yes thats the one i have it on my 4000 -shows how much i use it nowadays :( It
has a yellow cuddly animal as its icon.

That was probably in total amiga mag before it died.

Martin N

> Hello martin
> I use twinVNC on the Amiga for remote desktop stuff. (Mostly when the wife
> finds someting online she wants me to look at, and I don't feel like
> getting up to see it)
> On 12/10/09, martin trotter wrote:
> > Ah yes i remember reading about netsurf in amiga future magazine.
> > I dont tend to use the amiga that much now apart from email now since
> > it doesnt have the apps i require nowadays.
> >
> > I might get an up to date machine eventually but it still needs a few
> > more improvements on the software side. Unless i use rdesktop to a low
> > powerered pc for the odd thing it doesnt have. Then at least i can have
> > a decent os.
> >
> > Martin N
> >
> >
> >> Hello martin
> >> There's always Netsurf for 68K, it does a pretty good job rendering
> >> CSS-formatted pages, and I believe even has an inline video decoder
> >> (for youtube and stuff), though its painful even on a 68060. Merlin
> >> also does CSS stuff, but is still experimental at best, and is even
> >> slower. (It seems to use datatypes for decoding)
> >> On 12/10/09, martin trotter wrote:
> >> > Not far off although there is an old version of flash plugin for
> >> > ibrowse.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe one of the newer browsers like OWB have something a little
> >> >  better ut i dont have a modern amiga with either powerpc or
> >> >  AROS/Icaros x86 S on it.
> >> >
> >> > :(
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hello martin
> >> >> Almost like using Ibrowse then? LOL
> >> >> On 12/09/09, martin trotter wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my
> >> >> >    Palm sing wifi hotspots out and about.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone
> >> >> >  since hey dont even have something as basic as flash.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i
> >> >> >  believe. >> > Martin N
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> --
> >> >> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
> >> >> watertonian@...
> >> >> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
> >> >> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
> >> >> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
> >> >> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the
> >> >>  day hey start making vacuum cleaners."
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> Regards
> >> --
> >> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
> >> watertonian@...
> >> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
> >> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
> >> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
> >> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day
> >> they start making vacuum cleaners."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> Regards
> --
> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
> watertonian@...
> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
> start making vacuum cleaners."
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hello Paul
     Unfortunately, it requires a PC-configured conduit to convert the html
content. (My sony clié is hooked up to my 1200T's usb port) So for HTML on
my PDA, I use PalmFiction
(http://www.freewarepalm.com/docs/palmfiction.shtml) or TealWeb
(http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/tealweb.shtml) Between this, and
the hotsync funtionality in the poseidan USB stack + some clever AREXX
scripting, I can synchronize a list of webpages I might wish to peruse
while on the go.
On 12/10/09, Paul Hill wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM, martin trotter <trott3r@...>
>  wrote:
>> You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
>>> interested in.
>>
>> Can i download a rss feed onto a palm though for offline reading?
>
> I think Plucker may do the job:
>
> http://www.plkr.org/
>
> "Plucker is an offline Web and free eBook reader for Palm OS® based
> handheld devices, Windows Mobile (PocketPC) devices and other handheld
> PDAs"
> ...
> "content can be created for Plucker from many sources, including RSS,
> RDF, text files, HTML, PDF, and many other file formats."
>
> I've used Plucker on my old Windows Mobile iPAQ in the past.
>
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM, martin trotter <trott3r@...> wrote:
>> You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
>> interested in.
>
> Can i download a rss feed onto a palm though for offline reading?

I think Plucker may do the job:

http://www.plkr.org/

"Plucker is an offline Web and free eBook reader for Palm OS® based
handheld devices, Windows Mobile (PocketPC) devices and other handheld
PDAs"
...
"content can be created for Plucker from many sources, including RSS,
RDF, text files, HTML, PDF, and many other file formats."

I've used Plucker on my old Windows Mobile iPAQ in the past.

--
Paul

Hello martin
I use twinVNC on the Amiga for remote desktop stuff. (Mostly when the wife
finds someting online she wants me to look at, and I don't feel like
getting up to see it)
On 12/10/09, martin trotter wrote:
> Ah yes i remember reading about netsurf in amiga future magazine.
> I dont tend to use the amiga that much now apart from email now since
> it doesnt have the apps i require nowadays.
>
> I might get an up to date machine eventually but it still needs a few
> more improvements on the software side. Unless i use rdesktop to a low
> powerered pc for the odd thing it doesnt have. Then at least i can have
> a decent os.
>
> Martin N
>
>
>> Hello martin
>> There's always Netsurf for 68K, it does a pretty good job rendering
>> CSS-formatted pages, and I believe even has an inline video decoder
>> (for youtube and stuff), though its painful even on a 68060. Merlin
>> also does CSS stuff, but is still experimental at best, and is even
>> slower. (It seems to use datatypes for decoding)
>> On 12/10/09, martin trotter wrote:
>> > Not far off although there is an old version of flash plugin for
>> > ibrowse.
>> >
>> > Maybe one of the newer browsers like OWB have something a little
>> >  better ut i dont have a modern amiga with either powerpc or
>> >  AROS/Icaros x86 S on it.
>> >
>> > :(
>> >
>> >
>> > Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hello martin
>> >> Almost like using Ibrowse then? LOL
>> >> On 12/09/09, martin trotter wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my
>> >> >    Palm sing wifi hotspots out and about.
>> >> >
>> >> > Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone
>> >> >  since hey dont even have something as basic as flash.
>> >> >
>> >> > Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i
>> >> >  believe. >> > Martin N
>> >> Regards
>> >> --
>> >> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
>> >> watertonian@...
>> >> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
>> >> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
>> >> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
>> >> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the
>> >>  day hey start making vacuum cleaners."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> Regards
>> --
>> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
>> watertonian@...
>> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
>> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
>> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
>> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day
>> they start making vacuum cleaners."
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."

Lo,

> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:04 AM, martin trotter <trott3r@...> wrote:
> > Lo,
> > Oh i hate web forums.........
> > you dont know what you read last
> > -You cant carry it around easily on a pda
>
> Totally agree. However, I found something out recently.
>
> Sites that use 'vbulletin' allow you to retrieve messages via a RSS feed.
> Here's an example site that uses vbulletin: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/
>
> You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
> interested in.

Can i download a rss feed onto a palm though for offline reading?

Using free hotspots are only usuful when i can save the data offline for when i
move on from the hotspot like email or avantgo that has finished :(

I dont like paying for mobile internet :)

Martin N




Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups.

Ah yes i remember reading about netsurf in amiga future magazine.
I dont tend to use the amiga that much now apart from email now since it doesnt
have the apps i require nowadays.

I might get an up to date machine eventually but it still needs a few more
improvements on the software side. Unless i use rdesktop to a low powerered pc
for the odd thing it doesnt have. Then at least i can have a decent os.

Martin N


> Hello martin
> There's always Netsurf for 68K, it does a pretty good job rendering
> CSS-formatted pages, and I believe even has an inline video decoder (for
> youtube and stuff), though its painful even on a 68060. Merlin also does
> CSS stuff, but is still experimental at best, and is even slower. (It seems
> to use datatypes for decoding)
> On 12/10/09, martin trotter wrote:
> > Not far off although there is an old version of flash plugin for
> > ibrowse.
> >
> > Maybe one of the newer browsers like OWB have something a little better
> > but i dont have a modern amiga with either powerpc or AROS/Icaros x86
> > OS on it.
> >
> > :(
> >
> >
> > Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups.
> >
> >
> >> Hello martin
> >> Almost like using Ibrowse then? LOL
> >> On 12/09/09, martin trotter wrote:
> >>
> >> > Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm
> >> >  TX sing wifi hotspots out and about.
> >> >
> >> > Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone
> >> >  since hey dont even have something as basic as flash.
> >> >
> >> > Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i believe.
> >> >
> >> > Martin N
> >> Regards
> >> --
> >> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
> >> watertonian@...
> >> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
> >> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
> >> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
> >> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day
> >> they start making vacuum cleaners."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> Regards
> --
> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
> watertonian@...
> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
> start making vacuum cleaners."
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hello Paul
     Yes, thats quite handy. I have AMRSS set up for amiga.org, I'll probably
get Abime put on there one of these days, too.
On 12/10/09, Paul Hill wrote:

> Totally agree. However, I found something out recently.
>
> Sites that use 'vbulletin' allow you to retrieve messages via a RSS
> feed. Here's an example site that uses vbulletin:
> http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/
>
> You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
> interested in.
>
> For example, I subscribe to this feed, using Thunderbird:
>
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/external.php?type=rss&forumids=23,25,15,26,40,2\
78
>
> These are all the Dreamcast forums.
> You can find the forum id number from the URL of the forum.
>
> Now if only I could do the same with PHPBB...
>
> A forum <=> newsgroup gateway would be cool.
> World Of Spectrum already has one at news.zxdemo.org.
>
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:04 AM, martin trotter <trott3r@...> wrote:
> Lo,
> Oh i hate web forums.........
> you dont know what you read last
> -You cant carry it around easily on a pda

Totally agree. However, I found something out recently.

Sites that use 'vbulletin' allow you to retrieve messages via a RSS feed.
Here's an example site that uses vbulletin: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/

You can use a RSS reader application to subscribe to the forums you're
interested in.

For example, I subscribe to this feed, using Thunderbird:
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/external.php?type=rss&forumids=23,25,15,26,40,2\
78

These are all the Dreamcast forums.
You can find the forum id number from the URL of the forum.

Now if only I could do the same with PHPBB...

A forum <=> newsgroup gateway would be cool.
World Of Spectrum already has one at news.zxdemo.org.

--
Paul

Hello martin
There's always Netsurf for 68K, it does a pretty good job rendering
CSS-formatted pages, and I believe even has an inline video decoder (for
youtube and stuff), though its painful even on a 68060. Merlin also does
CSS stuff, but is still experimental at best, and is even slower. (It seems
to use datatypes for decoding)
On 12/10/09, martin trotter wrote:
> Not far off although there is an old version of flash plugin for
> ibrowse.
>
> Maybe one of the newer browsers like OWB have something a little better
> but i dont have a modern amiga with either powerpc or AROS/Icaros x86
> OS on it.
>
> :(
>
>
> Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups.
>
>
>> Hello martin
>> Almost like using Ibrowse then? LOL
>> On 12/09/09, martin trotter wrote:
>>
>> > Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm
>> >  TX sing wifi hotspots out and about.
>> >
>> > Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone
>> >  since hey dont even have something as basic as flash.
>> >
>> > Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i believe.
>> >
>> > Martin N
>> Regards
>> --
>> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
>> watertonian@...
>> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
>> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
>> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
>> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day
>> they start making vacuum cleaners."
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."

Not far off although there is an old version of flash plugin for ibrowse.

Maybe one of the newer browsers like OWB have something a little better but i
dont have a modern amiga with either powerpc or AROS/Icaros x86 OS on it.

:(


Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups.


> Hello martin
> Almost like using Ibrowse then? LOL
> On 12/09/09, martin trotter wrote:
>
> > Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm TX
> > using wifi hotspots out and about.
> >
> > Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone since
> > they dont even have something as basic as flash.
> >
> > Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i believe.
> >
> > Martin N
> Regards
> --
> Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
> watertonian@...
> http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
> This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
> (http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
> "The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
> start making vacuum cleaners."
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Lo,

> Martin
>
> >Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm TX
> >using wifi hotspots out and about.
>
> I would agree. Trouble is Yahoo started this free for all question
> and answers thing which creates Google search results on tech
> issues populated with loads of worthless waffle. Not specialised
> as with the Groups. I have really struggled of late to get any serious
> answers from issues on the Internet cus of these Blog Forum chat
> sites. All sites offer chat and that chat gets picked up by the
> crawlers, and most of it , like this post :-) is utter twaddle.
>
> If you know what I mean.
>
> Not too long ago I would Google info on computer systems and
> get the old style text based group mail threads, like on Newsgroups
> which were liquid gold full of information. Now its all avatars and
> kids and insults about rubbish ...

Oh i hate web forums.........
you dont know what you read last
-You cant carry it around easily on a pda
-freaking adverts that flash all over the place and then theres those crappy
avatar animations!

Dumb eye candy that detracts from what i am loooking for

grrrrr

Martin N

Martin

>Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm TX
>using wifi hotspots out and about.

I would agree. Trouble is Yahoo started this free for all question
and answers thing which creates Google search results on tech
issues populated with loads of worthless waffle. Not specialised
as with the Groups. I have really struggled of late to get any serious
answers from issues on the Internet cus of these Blog Forum chat
sites. All sites offer chat and that chat gets picked up by the
crawlers, and most of it , like this post :-) is utter twaddle.

If you know what I mean.

Not too long ago I would Google info on computer systems and
get the old style text based group mail threads, like on Newsgroups
which were liquid gold full of information. Now its all avatars and
kids and insults about rubbish ...

scuzz

Hello martin
Almost like using Ibrowse then? LOL
On 12/09/09, martin trotter wrote:

> Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm TX
> using wifi hotspots out and about.
>
> Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone since
> they dont even have something as basic as flash.
>
> Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i believe.
>
> Martin N
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."

Lo,

> Hi
>
> Strikes me that Yahoo Groups seem a bit old hat now.
> Dunno if they are anything like as popular as they were.
> Maybe its just the Amiga world that I frequent is on a
> low ebb...

Nahh nothing like carrying my groups email round with me on my Palm TX using
wifi hotspots out and about.

Websites are a bit shitty on mobiles including palm pre or iphone since they
dont even have something as basic as flash.

Although flash is coming to the pre and blackberry soon i believe.

Martin N

Hi

Strikes me that Yahoo Groups seem a bit old hat now.
Dunno if they are anything like as popular as they were.
Maybe its just the Amiga world that I frequent is on a
low ebb...

Did you see that Wayne has moved over at Amiga Org.

I'm also conscious that most of my Amiga links on my
website no longer work cus the various sites are no
longer available.

[ Prods the old faithfull... Hello ]

I'm sure we still have Amigans living and breathing ....

scuzz :-)

Phew

Refused entry to Yahoo Groups. Stuck there for a mo with the
finger on the old zap button. Anyway, got in in the end. Seems
that everyone and there dog uses forum blogs now to complain
immediately if something isn`t working. The Internet just seems
to be a massive online chat forum full of  people getting uptight
and angry about the slightest thing. Even getting angry about
not being able to log on and vent their anger on the forum they
normally get angry on.. :-)

No mind... [ still don`t understand what a twitter is .. explain again ]

scuzz

Sounds like you had a horrible morning. I have only ever used IE for a few days
before downloading Firefox. I'm still on Firefox 2 and have no plans for
upgrading :)
I was going to upgrade to AVG 9 (still have 8, greyed out and unupdated for
months), but will leave that now. I'll just download the latest info for Spybot
S&D and scan my laptop with that instead (it's been months since the last scan).

As for the Amiga, I was going through ASM sourcecode for AMOS extensions
yesterday. The guys at the AMOS Factory wanted the differences between the AMOS:
The Creator and AMOS Pro extensions documented so they could (attempt to)
convert AMOS only extensions to AMOS Pro. I told them it would be tough and now
they can see why.
Sorry, wandered off my point. Going through the ASM code made me hungry for
programming again. I have spent the last few weeks trying to catch up on emails
and YouTube videos... I am getting there, slowly.


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...


--- On Sun, 22/11/09, scuzz <scuzz.mail@...> wrote:

From: scuzz <scuzz.mail@...>
Subject: [Commodore_Amiga_Retro] No Idea Why
To: Commodore_Amiga_Retro@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 13:01







 









       I tried Internet Explorer 8 seeings as YouTube keep

telling me they are withdrawing support for 6 and man

why did I bother.



First up the default editing.. er scrub that, non-editing tool

which is a viewer for 'source' is of no use what so ever. To

get the default to be NOTEPAD you have to go to

Developer Tools and change from the menu that comes up

there. Can`t remember the exact procedure but 30 minutes

on Google again and I found it. Microsoft couldn`t really give

a sh** about making deafault source editors easy to understand

and use cus they want you to use official software.... Boll' to that.



And then the brain killer... I have about 60GB of home made

web pages here. My life in HTM on three 500GB external

drives and the usual two large drives on the machine. This is

also cross networked on a local intranet in the house. Thing

is the whole process starts with me firing my base icon on my

screen which links to a framed document on D drive which

is linked say D:\scuzz\inframe. htm say... That should launch

a framed document with a left navigation frame, a right content

pane and a lower more useful image browsing shortcut frame.

Not happening with Explorer 8. Nothing can be shown and the

help on the page is er well no use. Not set up for local pages in

the format that I have created. If you think I can edit 60GB of

htm just for a crappy explorer that thinks security is about

'round em up, put em in a field and bomb the bast***s' well

thinks again Bill. About as subtle as Microsoft. Dam them all cus

the user gets lumped in with the problem and we all suffer.

' Not user friendly ' is what I'm getting at.



I appreciate that we have security issues but honestly Microsoft

couldn`t think their way out of a paper bag when it comes to

economy and sensibility of ideas. ALL I WANT TO DO IS VIEW

MY HTM PAGES.... It doesn`t have to go to the Pentagon first

for clearance.



30 minutes later surfing for answers and found nothing. If anyone

knows the answer then it maybe of use. Or not. I uninstalled

the crap which is typically what I do for several years before being

forced to use any of Microsofts crappy software. They suck.

Thats another morning of my life I will not get back.



Doesn`t bode well for ever getting past XP. Took me eight years

to finally use XP. By the way the framed documents work perfectly

on the Amiga...



Oh and while I'm on, the only other machine I have with XP fell

over last night. I am starting to think its AVG 9 thats the culprit.

If the auto update hasn`t finished its 'optimising' , and the machine

locks and you press the reset you lose the boot on the partition.

Dunno why. I'm no expert. I'm just getting good at hurling tin

boxes at the wall in the small hours of the night. Not very

productive but certainly very satisfying.



Remember the late great Johnny Cash once sang about his

father that gave him the name ' Sue '... In so much that 'he

hates every inch of you...' Well thats how I feel about MS.



And PS I know I shouldn`t use it, but honestly with £500+ on

Adobe Photoshop and Thumbs and all my pages based around

Windows, it would be a massive issue for me to up sticks and

try say Apple properly or worse Linux. Not gonna happen.



Rant over.. The dust settles. And we are back. How you doooooin ?



PPS: I actually think 'Notepad' is about the only good bit of software

that Microsoft ever made. Link that to HTML and a suitable browser

plus some good editing software and your made. Sadly ' Thumbs' can

not be seen by my other profiles cus of some internal Windows issue.

They just love putting up the roadblocks. Thats why I say its about

'Security' and lumping all of the OS into the wonderful world of being

online and being hacked and so on. Thats what having broadband

and XP is all about...Your never safe so batten everything down.

The internet is becoming now a burden not a blessing... And that's

about the measure of it.



scuzz

http://www.commodor e-amiga-retro. com






















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I tried Internet Explorer 8 seeings as YouTube keep
telling me they are withdrawing support for 6 and man
why did I bother.

First up the default editing.. er scrub that, non-editing tool
which is a viewer for 'source' is of no use what so ever. To
get the default to be NOTEPAD you have to go to
Developer Tools and change from the menu that comes up
there. Can`t remember the exact procedure but 30 minutes
on Google again and I found it. Microsoft couldn`t really give
a sh** about making deafault source editors easy to understand
and use cus they want you to use official software.... Boll' to that.

And then the brain killer... I have about 60GB of home made
web pages here. My life in HTM on three 500GB external
drives and the usual two large drives on the machine. This is
also cross networked on a local intranet in the house. Thing
is the whole process starts with me firing my base icon on my
screen which links to a framed document on D drive which
is linked say D:\scuzz\inframe.htm say... That should launch
a framed document with a left navigation frame, a right content
pane and a lower more useful image browsing shortcut frame.
Not happening with Explorer 8. Nothing can be shown and the
help on the page is er well no use. Not set up for local pages in
the format that I have created. If you think I can edit 60GB of
htm just for a crappy explorer that thinks security is about
'round em up, put em in a field and bomb the bast***s' well
thinks again Bill. About as subtle as Microsoft. Dam them all cus
the user gets lumped in with the problem and we all suffer.
' Not user friendly ' is what I'm getting at.

I appreciate that we have security issues but honestly Microsoft
couldn`t think their way out of a paper bag when it comes to
economy and sensibility of ideas. ALL I WANT TO DO IS VIEW
MY HTM PAGES.... It doesn`t have to go to the Pentagon first
for clearance.

30 minutes later surfing for answers and found nothing. If anyone
knows the answer then it maybe of use. Or not. I uninstalled
the crap which is typically what I do for several years before being
forced to use any of Microsofts crappy software. They suck.
Thats another morning of my life I will not get back.

Doesn`t bode well for ever getting past XP. Took me eight years
to finally use XP. By the way the framed documents work perfectly
on the Amiga...

Oh and while I'm on, the only other machine I have with XP fell
over last night. I am starting to think its AVG 9 thats the culprit.
If the auto update hasn`t finished its 'optimising', and the machine
locks and you press the reset you lose the boot on the partition.
Dunno why. I'm no expert. I'm just getting good at hurling tin
boxes at the wall in the small hours of the night. Not very
productive but certainly very satisfying.

Remember the late great Johnny Cash once sang about his
father that gave him the name ' Sue '... In so much that 'he
hates every inch of you...' Well thats how I feel about MS.

And PS I know I shouldn`t use it, but honestly with £500+ on
Adobe Photoshop and Thumbs and all my pages based around
Windows, it would be a massive issue for me to up sticks and
try say Apple properly or worse Linux. Not gonna happen.

Rant over.. The dust settles. And we are back. How you doooooin ?

PPS: I actually think 'Notepad' is about the only good bit of software
that Microsoft ever made. Link that to HTML and a suitable browser
plus some good editing software and your made. Sadly ' Thumbs' can
not be seen by my other profiles cus of some internal Windows issue.
They just love putting up the roadblocks. Thats why I say its about
'Security' and lumping all of the OS into the wonderful world of being
online and being hacked and so on. Thats what having broadband
and XP is all about...Your never safe so batten everything down.
The internet is becoming now a burden not a blessing... And that's
about the measure of it.

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

I would laugh (ok, I did laugh), but I had the same problem around 4pm today.
Sat in my bedroom with just the light from the laptop screen lighting the room
up a little. Whilst waiting for a 24MB video to download (at dial-up speed -
5KB/sec) I kept drifting off the phantasy land every few minutes.
I felt much better after I had had something to eat. Still yawning and sleepy
now though. With it getting dark around 4pm I'm finding it hard to stay awake :(


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...


--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Nate Webb <watertonian@...> wrote:

From: Nate Webb <watertonian@...>
Subject: Re: [Commodore_Amiga_Retro] Makes me think
To: Commodore_Amiga_Retro@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 22:05







 









       Hello Andrew

     Finally settled on -Don't_Dance! - by Lars Hamre, a poor choice

considering the "easy listening" style, hour of night, and lack of

coffee.... Woke up an hour later, staring at the Matrix screen-saver with

music still playing. LOL

On 11/21/09, Andrew Burton wrote:

>

> Sorry, I meant 1024x768 (not sure where I got 720 from).

>

> Did you manage to choose a mod to listen to in the end? I have a music

> program for the Amiga which allows me to list a whole bunch of mods and

> then plays them in sequence :)

>

>

> Regards,

> Andrew B

> aliensrcooluk@ yahoo.co. uk

Regards

--

Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn

watertonian@ tds.net

http://personalpage s.tds.net/ ~jippo13

This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200

(http://personalpage s.tds.net/ ~jippo13/ 1200brag/ index.html)

"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they

start making vacuum cleaners."






















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Andrew
     Finally settled on -Don't_Dance!- by Lars Hamre, a poor choice
considering the "easy listening" style, hour of night, and lack of
coffee.... Woke up an hour later, staring at the Matrix screen-saver with
music still playing. LOL
On 11/21/09, Andrew Burton wrote:
>
> Sorry, I meant 1024x768 (not sure where I got 720 from).
>
> Did you manage to choose a mod to listen to in the end? I have a music
> program for the Amiga which allows me to list a whole bunch of mods and
> then plays them in sequence :)
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew B
> aliensrcooluk@...
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Mike Webb <mrw11@...> wrote:
> I've often wondered if LCD panels that run 1280x1024 natively are
> actually built to 5:4 dimensions, instead of 4:3 like other
> non-widescreen panels, so the pixels'll come out properly square...

It's 4x 320x256.  i.e. the Amiga's PAL resolution.  Perfect for emulation  :-)

--
Paul

On 11/21/2009 12:59 PM, martin trotter wrote:
> I run my 19" iiyama crt at 1280x 1024 and i thought that was the correct
> ratio rather than 960.


1280x1024 is in a ratio of 5:4.

On the other hand, 1280x960 is 4:3, same as 1920x1440, 1600x1200,
1152x864, 800x600, 640x480, 320x240 ... (all those "classic" resolutions)

This makes 1280x1024 a bit of an oddball among non-widescreen
resolutions, and I'm really not sure why it became standard. In fact,
I'm not aware of any other widely used 5:4 resolutions off the top of my
head. So, if you run 1280x1024 on a standard-aspect display, you get
non-square pixels. The different is relatively subtle, though -- less
noticeable than the significantly non-square pixels of the Amiga's old
640x400 (for NTSC at least).

I've often wondered if LCD panels that run 1280x1024 natively are
actually built to 5:4 dimensions, instead of 4:3 like other
non-widescreen panels, so the pixels'll come out properly square...

But yeah, if you run 1280x1024 on a regular CRT, your pixels will be
squished vertically just a little bit.



--
=-= Mike Webb =-=
Oakland, CA

mrw11@...
nightVzn (IM)
http://nightvzn.livejournal.com/

Lo,

> On 11/20/2009 4:52 PM, Andrew Burton wrote:
> > The
> > thing that annoys me (especially at work) is that people love having
> > their computers in the maximum resolution possible, with tiny text that
> > is bound to strain their eyes.
>
>
> So glad to hear somebody else say this! This has driven me nuts for
> years. I remember when I was working at the IT Support HelpDesk back in
> college, and they had the old first-gen 15" iMacs, everybody else
> insisted on running them at 1024x768 (which is fine on a 15" LCD, but
> *not* fine on a 15" CRT). The first thing I'd do whenever I sat down was
> set it back to 640x480 or 800x600. Co-workers thought something was
> wrong with me (or my eyes), but neither is the case; I just like things
> clear and crisp.
>
> When I had a 21" CRT at a subsequent employer, I ran it at a comfortable
> 1280x960 while everybody else was pushing 1600x1200 or 1920x1440.
> (Speaking of which, why was 1280x1024 always so common when 1280x960 is
> the correct 4:3 ratio?)

I run my 19" iiyama crt at 1280x 1024 and i thought that was the correct ratio
rather than 960.

The cvppc on the a4000 is at 1152x800

Martin N

On 11/20/2009 4:52 PM, Andrew Burton wrote:
> The
> thing that annoys me (especially at work) is that people love having
> their computers in the maximum resolution possible, with tiny text that
> is bound to strain their eyes.


So glad to hear somebody else say this! This has driven me nuts for
years. I remember when I was working at the IT Support HelpDesk back in
college, and they had the old first-gen 15" iMacs, everybody else
insisted on running them at 1024x768 (which is fine on a 15" LCD, but
*not* fine on a 15" CRT). The first thing I'd do whenever I sat down was
set it back to 640x480 or 800x600. Co-workers thought something was
wrong with me (or my eyes), but neither is the case; I just like things
clear and crisp.

When I had a 21" CRT at a subsequent employer, I ran it at a comfortable
1280x960 while everybody else was pushing 1600x1200 or 1920x1440.
(Speaking of which, why was 1280x1024 always so common when 1280x960 is
the correct 4:3 ratio?)

Nowadays I run a 27" LCD at 1920x1200, with a beautifully large dot
pitch of 0.303. It's stunning to me that there are laptops now which run
the same 1920x1200 on 17" displays. I realize OSes are getting better at
scaling up DPI to get large images at higher resolutions, and the future
is probably towards "infinitely" small pixels, but somehow I like the
crisp, sharp lines of clearly defined pixels. (Whenever I install
Windows, one of the first things I do is turn *off* font antialiasing.)
I feel I'm the last of a dying breed.


--
=-= Mike Webb =-=
Oakland, CA

mrw11@...
nightVzn (IM)
http://nightvzn.livejournal.com/

Sorry, I meant 1024x768 (not sure where I got 720 from).

Did you manage to choose a mod to listen to in the end? I have a music program
for the Amiga which allows me to list a whole bunch of mods and then plays them
in sequence :)


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk@...


--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Nate Webb <watertonian@...> wrote:

From: Nate Webb <watertonian@...>
Subject: Re: [Commodore_Amiga_Retro] Makes me think
To: Commodore_Amiga_Retro@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 1:07







 









       Hello Andrew

     I hear that. Though most the computers here now use 1024x768, ironically

the Amiga is the only one that uses higher. (1152x864) Granted, I  only do

this because of the graphics work, and when I do html stuff I like having

Ibrowse @ 1024x768 with some screen space around the edges to work on other

things. The biggest thing I miss with Windows are some of the more advanced

features, the scripting possibilities are endless. I have a script that

takes all the .jpg files in a directory, strips the .exif thumbnail, and

saves it as a .png file with a .info ending. (Creating a power icon) it

then converts the icon into a project with my favorite picture viewer as

the default tool. All of this because of the lformat functionality in the

C= LIST command! (This is useful for when I download the pics off my

camera) I'm now batch converting a bunch of winamp skins (.bmp format) into

Amplifier skins (in .iff), as the datatypes take too long to load. This

required a script that can write a script and execute it repeatedly, which

its doing now as I'm typing my E-mail, and pondering which mod I want to

listen to after reading your last message. :D The same procedure is useful

for when I log online and my fileserver mounts, and windows has dumped crap

into it. EG.

SMBFS volume="photos" workgroup="WEBBNET" service="//tux/ disk-1"

list Photos:#? all p thumbs.db lformat "delete %P%N force" >t:delwincrap

execute t:delwincrap

Then the wifes computer slows down as windows has to rebuild its stupid

thumbnails database. (Luckily, she hasn't deleted the .info files the first

script I mentioned spits out)

On 11/20/09, Andrew Burton wrote:

>

> It is such a shame that computers have become so boring and dull. The

> thing that annoys me (especially at work) is that people love having

> their computers in the maximum resolution possible, with tiny text that

> is bound to strain their eyes. Me, I have mine in bog standard 1024x720

> with text I can read without straining my eyes.

>

> I do love coming home and using WinUAE for my Amiga fix. Nothing like

> having some good quality PD music playing  in the background whilst

> programming :)

>

>

> Regards,

> Andrew B

> aliensrcooluk@ yahoo.co. uk

>

Regards

--

Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn

watertonian@ tds.net

http://personalpage s.tds.net/ ~jippo13

This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200

(http://personalpage s.tds.net/ ~jippo13/ 1200brag/ index.html)

"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they

start making vacuum cleaners."






















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Paul Hill <paulroberthill@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Nate Webb <watertonian@...> wrote:
>> list Photos:#? all p thumbs.db lformat "delete %P%N force" >t:delwincrap
>> execute t:delwincrap
>
> You can do something similar in Windows (and DOS) using the 'for' command:
>
> for /r %a in (thumbs.db) do del %a

Ignore that.  Looks like '/r' only works with folder names...

--
Paul

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Nate Webb <watertonian@...> wrote:
> list Photos:#? all p thumbs.db lformat "delete %P%N force" >t:delwincrap
> execute t:delwincrap

You can do something similar in Windows (and DOS) using the 'for' command:

for /r %a in (thumbs.db) do del %a

--
Paul

Hello Andrew
     I hear that. Though most the computers here now use 1024x768, ironically
the Amiga is the only one that uses higher. (1152x864) Granted, I  only do
this because of the graphics work, and when I do html stuff I like having
Ibrowse @ 1024x768 with some screen space around the edges to work on other
things. The biggest thing I miss with Windows are some of the more advanced
features, the scripting possibilities are endless. I have a script that
takes all the .jpg files in a directory, strips the .exif thumbnail, and
saves it as a .png file with a .info ending. (Creating a power icon) it
then converts the icon into a project with my favorite picture viewer as
the default tool. All of this because of the lformat functionality in the
C= LIST command! (This is useful for when I download the pics off my
camera) I'm now batch converting a bunch of winamp skins (.bmp format) into
Amplifier skins (in .iff), as the datatypes take too long to load. This
required a script that can write a script and execute it repeatedly, which
its doing now as I'm typing my E-mail, and pondering which mod I want to
listen to after reading your last message. :D The same procedure is useful
for when I log online and my fileserver mounts, and windows has dumped crap
into it. EG.
SMBFS volume="photos" workgroup="WEBBNET" service="//tux/disk-1"
list Photos:#? all p thumbs.db lformat "delete %P%N force" >t:delwincrap
execute t:delwincrap
Then the wifes computer slows down as windows has to rebuild its stupid
thumbnails database. (Luckily, she hasn't deleted the .info files the first
script I mentioned spits out)
On 11/20/09, Andrew Burton wrote:
>
> It is such a shame that computers have become so boring and dull. The
> thing that annoys me (especially at work) is that people love having
> their computers in the maximum resolution possible, with tiny text that
> is bound to strain their eyes. Me, I have mine in bog standard 1024x720
> with text I can read without straining my eyes.
>
> I do love coming home and using WinUAE for my Amiga fix. Nothing like
> having some good quality PD music playing  in the background whilst
> programming :)
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew B
> aliensrcooluk@...
>
Regards
--
Nate , Mandi, and Sarahlyn
watertonian@...
http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13
This E-Mail written using YAM on an Amiga 1200
(http://personalpages.tds.net/~jippo13/1200brag/index.html)
"The day Microsoft makes a product that does  not suck will be the day they
start making vacuum cleaners."