I can't find the clause anymore, so you should be OK.

Ian

On 18 Dec 2009, at 10:11, Ian Wood wrote:

> Potentially you'd have to tread carefully around eBay's user policy -
> I'd have to check again, but I'm fairly sure that any user that builds
> up a database of prices isn't allowed to share that database with
> other users!
>
> Ian

Potentially you'd have to tread carefully around eBay's user policy -
I'd have to check again, but I'm fairly sure that any user that builds
up a database of prices isn't allowed to share that database with
other users!

Ian

On 18 Dec 2009, at 09:41, stelonex wrote:

> Further, there have recently been some thoughts on how GeekDo might
> track trading prices of game items on sites such as eBay in order to
> provide users with a better idea of what values items may buy and
> sell for. See this thread in which I first saw the initial idea
> posted:
> http://rpg.geekdo.com/thread/473087
>
> ...
>
> So having said all of that, MiniaturesGeek is currently an ideal
> rather than a planned delivery. The idea of tracking prices is
> *just* an idea at this stage and has not been acknowledged by tha
> actual development team. And even if both of these were to come to
> fruition, I imagine that it would be quite some time before they
> were released (late 2010 at the earliest, I'd guess).

--- In CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com, Gary Price <gprice@...>
wrote:
>
> The real shame is that we don't have a price guide for the minis we
> collect.

It's something that may eventually appear as a function on GeekDo.

Brief aside: GeekDo is the rebranded set of websites that you may know as
BoardGameGeek. With the release of their second site, Role-PlayingGameGeek, they
created the idea of GeekDo to tie the sites together (since there is truly one
underlying linked database that feeds them both).

The third GeekDo site that will almost certainly be released in 2010 will be
VideoGameGeek to document computer games. *But* there is some talk of produced a
further database to document miniatures (neither the board game nor RPG side
cater very well for miniatures at the moment, and miniatures straddle both of
these and have their own separate requirements too). So at some point we may
also have a MiniaturesGeek or the like.

Further, there have recently been some thoughts on how GeekDo might track
trading prices of game items on sites such as eBay in order to provide users
with a better idea of what values items may buy and sell for. See this thread in
which I first saw the initial idea posted:
http://rpg.geekdo.com/thread/473087

...

So having said all of that, MiniaturesGeek is currently an ideal rather than a
planned delivery. The idea of tracking prices is *just* an idea at this stage
and has not been acknowledged by tha actual development team. And even if both
of these were to come to fruition, I imagine that it would be quite some time
before they were released (late 2010 at the earliest, I'd guess).

Which is to say, if you're thinking of creating some process to track prices and
to save that data, please do so even if GeekDo's functionality may replace your
work in the future. And if GeekDo does get this process in place, the data you
collect can be loaded in to the database in order to provide some robust initial
values.

Stelio.

PS: If MiniaturesGeek does gain some momentum, I'll be sure to let you know.

I think a project like this would be highly beneficial to the community.

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On 2009-12-18 00:57:39 -0500 Gary Price <gprice@...> wrote:

>
> The real shame is that we don't have a price guide for the minis we
> collect. Not that I know of, anyway. I'm thinking of something along the
> lines of what Greenberg does for trains or Overstreet for comics.
>
> The pricing data for such references is not always reliable, but a
> Miniatures Price Guide could provide other helpful information for buyers,
> sellers, and collectors.
>
> Perhaps the combined resources of this and similar groups could provide
> starting data. Has anyone been collecting such information?
>
> -g
>
> At 01:44 PM 12/17/2009, cervantes3773 wrote:
>>
>> That helps a lot, thank you. Now I just need to find the right buyer.
>>
>> It's a shame we don't have Sotheby's for minis...
>
>
>

The real shame is that we don't have a price guide for the minis we
collect. Not that I know of, anyway. I'm thinking of something along the
lines of what Greenberg does for trains or Overstreet for comics.

The pricing data for such references is not always reliable, but a
Miniatures Price Guide could provide other helpful information for buyers,
sellers, and collectors.

Perhaps the combined resources of this and similar groups could provide
starting data. Has anyone been collecting such information?

-g

At 01:44 PM 12/17/2009, cervantes3773 wrote:
>
>That helps a lot, thank you. Now I just need to find the right buyer.
>
>It's a shame we don't have Sotheby's for minis...

--- In CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com, Ian Wood <panolists@...>
wrote:
>
>
> On 17 Dec 2009, at 20:59, cervantes3773 wrote:
>
> > Through the helpful people on bartertown, I was able to match them
> > to some catalog scans from SoL, but I'm wondering if you guys can
> > give me an idea of what I'm working with in terms of rarity and value.
>
> Squats seem to have taken a bit of a drop in value over the last few
> months, which is a shame. :-(
>
> IMG_1254 - Hearthguard in good condition. Could be anywhere between £8
> and £20 depending on bidders.
>
> IMG_1242 is a mix-up - the arm that is painted green is from the
> second 'prototype' Terminator model. Unpainted complete Exo Armour
> models go for £6-12.
>
> IMG_1241 - Warlord, probably best sold with the Hearthguard as they
> are his bodyguard.
>
> IMG_1240 - the slightly sleeker bike bottom-left is probably the most
> valuable single model, as it was available for a much shorter time
> than the other bikes and trikes. Most of the bikes should reach £5-12
> each. The Heavy Weapon Trike would normally get more than the others
> but of course the paint is likely to reduce it.
>
> IMG_1237 - matching up riders to bikes will increase the value,
> probably add another £2-3 to each bike.
>
> IMG_1234 - Squat Adventurers will be worth more than usual Squats, but
> *only* if a collector sees them and needs them.
>
> IMG_1247 - the two sprues of 'bare' arms are from the very first
> ranges of Confrontaion/Necromunda figures and are potentially the
> rarest/most valuable things in the whole lot if the right person sees
> them.
>
>
> You don't appear to have ANY Squat arms in all that lot, as the rest
> appear to be Imperial Guard arms which is a shame and may reduced the
> value of the armless figures.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Ian
>

That helps a lot, thank you.  Now I just need to find the right buyer.

It's a shame we don't have Sotheby's for minis...

On 17 Dec 2009, at 20:59, cervantes3773 wrote:

> Through the helpful people on bartertown, I was able to match them
> to some catalog scans from SoL, but I'm wondering if you guys can
> give me an idea of what I'm working with in terms of rarity and value.

Squats seem to have taken a bit of a drop in value over the last few
months, which is a shame. :-(

IMG_1254 - Hearthguard in good condition. Could be anywhere between £8
and £20 depending on bidders.

IMG_1242 is a mix-up - the arm that is painted green is from the
second 'prototype' Terminator model. Unpainted complete Exo Armour
models go for £6-12.

IMG_1241 - Warlord, probably best sold with the Hearthguard as they
are his bodyguard.

IMG_1240 - the slightly sleeker bike bottom-left is probably the most
valuable single model, as it was available for a much shorter time
than the other bikes and trikes. Most of the bikes should reach £5-12
each. The Heavy Weapon Trike would normally get more than the others
but of course the paint is likely to reduce it.

IMG_1237 - matching up riders to bikes will increase the value,
probably add another £2-3 to each bike.

IMG_1234 - Squat Adventurers will be worth more than usual Squats, but
*only* if a collector sees them and needs them.

IMG_1247 - the two sprues of 'bare' arms are from the very first
ranges of Confrontaion/Necromunda figures and are potentially the
rarest/most valuable things in the whole lot if the right person sees
them.


You don't appear to have ANY Squat arms in all that lot, as the rest
appear to be Imperial Guard arms which is a shame and may reduced the
value of the armless figures.

Hope that helps,

Ian

Hey guys,

I've got a few questions for you all.

See these squats and old SM bikes?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cervantes3773/sets/72157622889366731/

Well, I came into these models a few years ago in a trade and never did anything
with them.  Fast forward a few years, I've just lost my job and may move in a
few months, so I'm trying to clear out models that I don't need.

Through the helpful people on bartertown, I was able to match them to some
catalog scans from SoL, but I'm wondering if you guys can give me an idea of
what I'm working with in terms of rarity and value.

Obviously, the model market is cruel and fickle, but any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Dave

Two lots of auctions coming up next week, ending on Sunday and Monday.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Warhammer-Trader
http://twitter.com/warhammertrader

Ian



Ending Sunday 20th

Title          eBay ID
Imperial Guard Cadian Kasrkin Stormtroopers x 2          150397541605
Imperial Guard Cadian Kasrkin Sergeant          150397542470
Imperial Guard Bob Olley Troopers x 4          170419886762
Mk. 2 Space Marine Predator Tank          150397544903
Limited Edition Games Day 1998 Apothecary          150397541102
Large Space Marine Arms & Guns Job Lot          150397543863
Blood Angels Death Company x10 & Chaplain 1993          170419888483
Mk 7 Space Marines Combat Squad & Sprues 1992          150397542977
RTB01 Rogue Trader Plastic Space Marines x 5          150397540539
Space Marine Plastic Land Speeders x 2          150397542781
Assault on Black Reach Space Marine Dreadnought          170419891456
Assault on Black Reach Space Marines          150397540154


Ending Monday 21st


Citadel Drunken Dwarfs Dwarf 2          170420325002
Citadel C11 Halfling Croucher Cox Middlemarch          170420330130
Blood Bowl Night Horrors Ghoul Conversions x 5          150397837745
Rogue Trader Space Ork Job Lot x 12 - 87 & 88          170420328005
Epic Metal Eldar Phantom Titan 1988          170420322767
Epic Ork Weirdboy Battle Tower Job Lot x 4          150397834362
Epic Khorne Lord of Battle 1992          170420329410
Skaven Clan Pestilens Plague Monks x 6 - 1993          170420327174
Marauder Skaven Stormvermin Champion 1993          150397827778
Skaven Clan Pestilens Plague Monks x 13 - 1993          150397833880
Marauder Skaven Stormvermin Unit x 10 - 1993          150397832506
Skaven Clan Pestilens Plague Monks x 10 - 1993          170420328850



Selected fixed price items:

Blood Bowl:
Blood Bowl Rat Ogre Star Player Headsplitter 1993          170418154762

Epic:
Epic Eldar Knight Fire Gale 1 - 1990          170419801735
Epic Emperor Imperator Titan          150397175148
Epic Eldar Knight Bright Stallion 1 - 1990          150397483657
Epic Eldar Knight Towering Destroyer 1 - 1990          170419801923
Epic Eldar Knight Fire Gale 2 - 1990          150397484235
Epic Eldar Phantom Titan V-Cannon 1990          150397483812
Adeptus Titanicus Robot Set x 5 - 1988          170419343374
Adeptus Titanicus Dreadnought Set x 4 - 1988          170419343336
Epic Eldar Mk. 1 Firestorm x 2 - 1993          150396687931
Adeptus Titanicus Dreadnoughts Job Lot x11  1988          170418595676
Epic Mk. 6 & 7 Space Marine Army          150396688017
Epic Imperial Guard Army 1990          170419801870
Epic Ork Invasion Ork Army 1990          170419801792

WFB:
Realm of Chaos Chaos Champion 4 on foot 1988          170418595821
Realm of Chaos Beastman with Axe 6 - 1989          170418595872
C34 Minotaur Lord Doom Bellow the Warped 1987          170418595741
Champion of Slaanesh Halberd, Extra Legs 1988          150396687892
Scyla Anfinngrim, Spawn of Chaos Mk. 2          170418596164
Citadel C33 Adventure Packs Chaos Hero 1985          170418595953
CH5 Chaos Sorcerer Hess Poison Breath 1987          170418596100
Citadel F3 Barbarians 'Gerloc' 1987          150397175029

Necromunda:
Necromunda Escher Heavy Stubber Backpack          150397776008

40k:
Rogue Trader Slaanesh Noise Marine 1992          170418595719
Eldar Plastic Guardians  x 3          170418985192
RT402 Eldar Command Group Elres Fireflash 1987          170418985415
Eldar Guardian with Shuriken Catapult 1 x3  1990          170418985675
Eldar Guardian with Shuriken Catapult 2 x2  1990          150396935535
Citadel RT601 Adventurers Punk 1988          170420235283
RT601 Adventurers Pilot Lorgar 1988          150397776277
RT601 Adventurers Ex-Tech with Flamer 1988          150397776126
RT601 Adventurers Hero with Pistol 1988          150397776168
Imperial Army 'Walking Egg' Sentinel 1989          150397776289
(incomplete)
Imperial Gaurd Catachan Lieutenant 2003          170420235103
Imperial Gaurd Catachan Lieutenant 2003          170420235068
RT103 Space Marine Heavy Weapon Trooper 4 - 1988          170418155103
RT103 Space Marine Heavy Weapon Trooper 1 - 1988          170418155091
RT101 Marine Brother Meredith 1988          150396356563
Vincent Black Shadow Bike 1988          170420966749 (with handlebars!)
Vincent Black Shadow Bike w Mk2 Handlebars 1988          170420967237
Rogue Trader Ork Battlewagon 1990          150398004129
Blood Bowl Snotling Sitting on an RTB01 Helmet          170420570732
Ork Blood Axe Boss 1 - 1989          150398006778
Ork Bad Moon Big Boss-Boss 3 -  1989          150398004486
Space Ork Commander in Armour 1991          170420570768
Ork Mekboy with Cutters 1989          150398004300
Ork Kustom Heavy Weapon Eavy Bolta 1992          150398004057
RT207 Ork Heavy Troopers w Kustom Weapons 1988          150398284445
RT207 Ork Heavy Wpn Troopers w Rokkits x6 - 1988          170420967180
Citadel Ork Wierdboy 1 & Minders 1990          170420570942
Rogue Trader RT204-6 Ork Dreadnought 1988          170420966765

> How are you getting on with your Fantasy Warlord collecting?
> What have you grabbed so far?

Not that much. Minis pop-up not so often on eBay. Here are pics of 80%
of my collection so far:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deckarudo/sets/72157622886868597/

I know a guy from AA who can re-cast minis from that range because they
kept the molds. But I am tracking the original ones.

I do my best to resurrect Fantasy Warlod wargame and I created a very
small group years ago dedicated to it:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FantasyWarlord/

Guillaume

I agree, definitely worthwhile.

Jeff

On 15 Dec 2009, at 18:15, Tony Mansfield wrote:

> A quick glance at my index tells me around 40 and about the same for
> 1988

Thanks.

Ian

Guillaume

How are you getting on with your Fantasy Warlord collecting?
What have you grabbed so far?
AJ

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Guillaume Vialet <citadel@...>wrote:

>
>
> > (Off the topic of Citadel, but in reply to a question posed to the
> group.)
>
> Thank you very much for those explainations about Standard Miniatures!
>
> I know Sue and the BlueMule quite well, they did a great job. So Black
> Baron and Standard Miniatures are linked?
>
> I'm not gonna start a new collection, as I am deeply invovled in
> grabbing every Fantasy Warlord and Hi-Commander miniatures casted by
> Alternative Armies.
>
> End of my off-topic post ;)
>
> Guillaume
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> (Off the topic of Citadel, but in reply to a question posed to the  group.)

Thank you very much for those explainations about Standard Miniatures!

I know Sue and the BlueMule quite well, they did a great job. So Black
Baron and Standard Miniatures are linked?

I'm not gonna start a new collection, as I am deeply invovled in
grabbing every Fantasy Warlord and Hi-Commander miniatures casted by
Alternative Armies.

End of my off-topic post ;)

Guillaume

A quick glance at my index tells me around 40 and about the same for 1988



   _____

From: CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Wood
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 1:18 a.m.
To: CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CollectingCitadelMiniatures] Flyers guide


Out of curiosity, how many more ranges are featured in the 1987 flyers?






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm guessing it would be somewhere around the time that the round bases were
first produced. Off hand I can't recall when this was, but I'm sure the bases
have a date stamp on the underside. That would at least enable you to narrow
down the possibilities...

--- In CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com, Ian Wood <panolists@...>
wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity, does anyone know when the 2nd ed 'revised' Eldar
> Dreadnought/Wraithlord and similar models stopped shipping with square
> 40mm monster bases and instead came with round bases?
>
> Prompted by a thread on Warseer regarding Daemons on square bases...
>
> Ian
>

_http://www.solegends.com/citlotr/me44uruk_sm.jpg_
(http://www.solegends.com/citlotr/me44uruk_sm.jpg)

_http://www.solegends.com/citlotr/indexblist.htm_
(http://www.solegends.com/citlotr/indexblist.htm)

Set of three, been painted previous by someone else so will need stripping
excellent condition. Thinning out my collection and starting with the odds
and  sods.

Contact me offlist for price. Will ship worldwide.

Cheers

Vyper



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know when the 2nd ed 'revised' Eldar
Dreadnought/Wraithlord and similar models stopped shipping with square
40mm monster bases and instead came with round bases?

Prompted by a thread on Warseer regarding Daemons on square bases...

Ian

On 15 Dec 2009, at 10:09, Tony Mansfield wrote:

> 1. Most importantly, if this worthwhile?

I do, but I'm not necessarily a typical user of either the wiki or
SoL... ;-)

> 2. Does it look and 'feel' as though that layout will be useful

Aye. Thanks to you and Joe for the work.

Out of curiosity, how many more ranges are featured in the 1987 flyers?

On 15 Dec 2009, at 11:29, s.casey@... wrote:

> Tony, yes I believe this exercise to be worthwhile. Could you
> clarify something for me: if you look at, e.g., the
> entry under "EC01 Melnibonean Infantry" you have listed "July 1987
> Flyer, August 1987 Flyer, WD 92 Aug 1987, WD 93
> Sept 1987" - is the idea to substitute this list of WDs and fliers
> with links to teh actual pages?

That's the eventual aim, once/if the relevant flyers and ads are
available online.

Ian

Tony, yes I believe this exercise to be worthwhile. Could you clarify something
for me: if you look at, e.g., the
entry under "EC01 Melnibonean Infantry" you have listed "July 1987 Flyer, August
1987 Flyer, WD 92 Aug 1987, WD 93
Sept 1987" - is the idea to substitute this list of WDs and fliers with links to
teh actual pages?



Quoting Tony Mansfield <tonyman@...>:

> I have added to the sections Joe put up and added a couple more
>
>
>
> Feedback please
>
>
>
> 1. Most importantly, if this worthwhile?
> 2. Does it look and 'feel' as though that layout will be useful
>
>
>
> If the answer to both is yes then I will carry on and add additional
> sections as and when time permits
>
>
>
> Tony

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First plug ever... need to sell some stuff for xmas so I have put up a few
Unreleased pieces.

Of big interest I believe is the howdah for teh DE army:
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Unreleased_-_H\
owdah_for_War_Hydra.jpg

also a bone giant head:
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Unreleased_-_T\
omb_King_Variant_head_%28bone_giant%29.jpg

Search for seller ROLLJORDAN

For people who I have traded in the past I offer a 5% discount if you win. Just
make sure to email me.

Also looking for any of the unreleased TK Tomb Guard. Any model will be
accepted. Need to complete my unit and need a total of 12 models to include the
command. We can discuss a trade or partial/trade payment for one of my auctions
if you win.

Also searching: Vulture mounted on Casket of Souls Liche Priest

Thanks,
Chris

I have added to the sections Joe put up and added a couple more



Feedback please



1. Most importantly, if this worthwhile?
2. Does it look and 'feel' as though that layout will be useful



If the answer to both is yes then I will carry on and add additional
sections as and when time permits



Tony



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From: CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
whfb@...
Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 2:14 p.m.
To: CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CollectingCitadelMiniatures] Flyers guide

Whereas what we are proposing is a singe page per range that lists all
flyers etc that that range can be found in. No need to keep pressing keys
to find the next entry.

Another advantage is that references to catalog pages or web sites are
easily added to this concept.

> I still don't agree on the methodology, but the aim and idea of a
> reference section sound great.

And I have! :-)

http://www.collecti
<http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Reference>
ng-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Reference

(Note: If you can't see the 'Reference' link in the sidebar, you may have
to clear your browsers cache)

Cheers!
--------------
Joe Thomlinson






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ok
 
I'll load up 1987 tonight and then evryone can have a look and see how it works
for them
 
Tony

--- On Tue, 15/12/09, whfb@... <whfb@...> wrote:


From: whfb@... <whfb@...>
Subject: Re: [CollectingCitadelMiniatures] Flyers guide
To: CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 2:14 PM


 



Ian wrote on 13/12/2009 10:21:58 PM:

>
> On 13 Dec 2009, at 05:14, Tony Mansfield wrote:
>
> > Ok then I think if we are going to do that, we should launch
> > straight into
> > it as otherwise we are going to end up with a lot of extra work.
>
> Hmm.
>
> > We could directly create a page per group/subject etc (eg
> > Hobgoblins) that
> > has links to all the flyers the group appears on. This approach
> > would also
> > only take marginally more effort than being expended in making this
> > current
> > list and can be done flyer by flyer over time.
>
> Your suggestion would mean having a dozen or more different pages open
> each time you go through a flyer, and constantly swapping back and
> forth between them.
>

If I wanted to look at what was on the Flyer, I would simply look at it
..... ;-)

> I find it quite easy to look through a flyer and type in the names of
> the ads one-after-another. Then, once we've made the 'page per group'
> pages, it's simply a matter of opening that group page and the flyers
> page and hitting Control/Command- G repeatedly to find all the
> instances of that group's name on the flyers page.
>

Whereas what we are proposing is a singe page per range that lists all
flyers etc that that range can be found in. No need to keep pressing keys
to find the next entry.

Another advantage is that references to catalog pages or web sites are
easily added to this concept.

> > Talking with Joe the only concern I have is the sheer volume of
> > groups and
> > therefore pages required would overwhelm the current collectors guides
> > section, so I would propose a new 'reference' category that would
> > have it's
> > own link on the sidebar. When someone wants to expand any group page
> > to
> > something like a 'full' collectors guide by adding text and picas
> > etc, then
> > that page can be promoted to the collectors guide section. (Perhaps
> > leaving
> > the reference category tag for completeness sake.)
> >
> > Part of that reference section would be the index page for all the
> > 'group'
> > pages and could also have a list of (with links where possible to)
> > all known
> > flyers, WDs and other reference material
>
> I think a new 'reference' section would be an excellent idea, for all
> the reasons you've given.
>
> > We would have to ask Joe to set up the extra title on the sidebar
> > and then
> > work from there
>
> Agreed.
>
> > How does that sound?
>
> I still don't agree on the methodology, but the aim and idea of a
> reference section sound great.

And I have! :-)

http://www.collecti ng-citadel- miniatures. com/wiki/ index.php/ Reference

(Note: If you can't see the 'Reference' link in the sidebar, you may have
to clear your browsers cache)

Cheers!
------------ --
Joe Thomlinson

"There is a pleasure sure In being mad which none but madmen know."

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CollectingCitadelMi niatures@ yahoogroups. com wrote on 13/12/2009 10:21:58
PM:

>
> On 13 Dec 2009, at 05:14, Tony Mansfield wrote:
>
> > Ok then I think if we are going to do that, we should launch
> > straight into
> > it as otherwise we are going to end up with a lot of extra work.
>
> Hmm.
>
> > We could directly create a page per group/subject etc (eg
> > Hobgoblins) that
> > has links to all the flyers the group appears on. This approach
> > would also
> > only take marginally more effort than being expended in making this
> > current
> > list and can be done flyer by flyer over time.
>
> Your suggestion would mean having a dozen or more different pages open
> each time you go through a flyer, and constantly swapping back and
> forth between them.
>
> I find it quite easy to look through a flyer and type in the names of
> the ads one-after-another. Then, once we've made the 'page per group'
> pages, it's simply a matter of opening that group page and the flyers
> page and hitting Control/Command- G repeatedly to find all the
> instances of that group's name on the flyers page.
>
> > Talking with Joe the only concern I have is the sheer volume of
> > groups and
> > therefore pages required would overwhelm the current collectors guides
> > section, so I would propose a new 'reference' category that would
> > have it's
> > own link on the sidebar. When someone wants to expand any group page
> > to
> > something like a 'full' collectors guide by adding text and picas
> > etc, then
> > that page can be promoted to the collectors guide section. (Perhaps
> > leaving
> > the reference category tag for completeness sake.)
> >
> > Part of that reference section would be the index page for all the
> > 'group'
> > pages and could also have a list of (with links where possible to)
> > all known
> > flyers, WDs and other reference material
>
> I think a new 'reference' section would be an excellent idea, for all
> the reasons you've given.
>
> > We would have to ask Joe to set up the extra title on the sidebar
> > and then
> > work from there
>
> Agreed.
>
> > How does that sound?
>
> I still don't agree on the methodology, but the aim and idea of a
> reference section sound great.
>
> Ian
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Ian wrote on 13/12/2009 10:21:58 PM:

>
> On 13 Dec 2009, at 05:14, Tony Mansfield wrote:
>
> > Ok then I think if we are going to do that, we should launch
> > straight into
> > it as otherwise we are going to end up with a lot of extra work.
>
> Hmm.
>
> > We could directly create a page per group/subject etc (eg
> > Hobgoblins)  that
> > has links to all the flyers the group appears on. This approach
> > would also
> > only take marginally more effort than being expended in making this
> > current
> > list and can be done flyer by flyer over time.
>
> Your suggestion would mean having a dozen or more different pages open
> each time you go through a flyer, and constantly swapping back and
> forth between them.
>

If I wanted to look at what was on the Flyer, I would simply look at it
... ;-)

> I find it quite easy to look through a flyer and type in the names of
> the ads one-after-another. Then, once we've made the 'page per group'
> pages, it's simply a matter of opening that group page and the flyers
> page and hitting Control/Command-G repeatedly to find all the
> instances of that group's name on the flyers page.
>

Whereas what we are proposing is a singe page per range that lists all
flyers etc that that range can be found in. No need to keep pressing keys
to find the next entry.

Another advantage is that references to catalog pages or web sites are
easily added to this concept.

> > Talking with Joe the only concern I have is the sheer volume of
> > groups and
> > therefore pages required would overwhelm the current collectors guides
> > section, so I would propose a new 'reference' category that would
> > have it's
> > own link on the sidebar. When someone wants to expand any group page
> > to
> > something like a 'full' collectors guide by adding text and picas
> > etc, then
> > that page can be promoted to the collectors guide section. (Perhaps
> > leaving
> > the reference category tag for completeness sake.)
> >
> > Part of that reference section would be the index page for all the
> > 'group'
> > pages and could also have a list of (with links where possible to)
> > all known
> > flyers, WDs and other reference material
>
> I think a new 'reference' section would be an excellent idea, for all
> the reasons you've given.
>
> > We would have to ask Joe to set up the extra title on the sidebar
> > and then
> > work from there
>
> Agreed.
>
> > How does that sound?
>
> I still don't agree on the methodology, but the aim and idea of a
> reference section sound great.

And I have! :-)

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Reference

(Note: If you can't see the 'Reference' link in the sidebar, you may have
to clear your browsers cache)

Cheers!
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CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com wrote on 13/12/2009 10:21:58
PM:

>
> On 13 Dec 2009, at 05:14, Tony Mansfield wrote:
>
> > Ok then I think if we are going to do that, we should launch
> > straight into
> > it as otherwise we are going to end up with a lot of extra work.
>
> Hmm.
>
> > We could directly create a page per group/subject etc (eg
> > Hobgoblins)  that
> > has links to all the flyers the group appears on. This approach
> > would also
> > only take marginally more effort than being expended in making this
> > current
> > list and can be done flyer by flyer over time.
>
> Your suggestion would mean having a dozen or more different pages open
> each time you go through a flyer, and constantly swapping back and
> forth between them.
>
> I find it quite easy to look through a flyer and type in the names of
> the ads one-after-another. Then, once we've made the 'page per group'
> pages, it's simply a matter of opening that group page and the flyers
> page and hitting Control/Command-G repeatedly to find all the
> instances of that group's name on the flyers page.
>
> > Talking with Joe the only concern I have is the sheer volume of
> > groups and
> > therefore pages required would overwhelm the current collectors guides
> > section, so I would propose a new 'reference' category that would
> > have it's
> > own link on the sidebar. When someone wants to expand any group page
> > to
> > something like a 'full' collectors guide by adding text and picas
> > etc, then
> > that page can be promoted to the collectors guide section. (Perhaps
> > leaving
> > the reference category tag for completeness sake.)
> >
> > Part of that reference section would be the index page for all the
> > 'group'
> > pages and could also have a list of (with links where possible to)
> > all known
> > flyers, WDs and other reference material
>
> I think a new 'reference' section would be an excellent idea, for all
> the reasons you've given.
>
> > We would have to ask Joe to set up the extra title on the sidebar
> > and then
> > work from there
>
> Agreed.
>
> > How does that sound?
>
> I still don't agree on the methodology, but the aim and idea of a
> reference section sound great.
>
> Ian
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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> I don't recall if all of the figures were slotta or just the troopers.

They were all slotta based.

Guillaume

I don't know about recasts, but I do know that in the original release of this
version of Golfag's, the trooper models were on slotta bases (24x24mm) and then
later this was replaced with the standard peg used for the 40x40mm bases. I
don't recall if all of the figures were slotta or just the troopers.

Cheers

--- In CollectingCitadelMiniatures@yahoogroups.com, "raf1870" <raf1870@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Does anyone know if there were ever recasts done of the Regiments of
> Renown Ogre Standard Bearer?
>
> Have included links to the item in question.
>
> Ogre 1 <http://www.sodemons.com/rhogres/rhgolgfags2.htm>
>
> Ogre 2 <http://www.solegends.com/citrr/rr08golgfagsm12.htm>
>
> I have also included a pic of the miniature in question.
>
> Standard Bearer
> <http://www.displacedminiatures.com/raf1870/image/2924/30232/>
>
> Any feedback welcome.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi

Does anyone know if there were ever recasts done of the Regiments of
Renown Ogre Standard Bearer?

Have included links to the item in question.

Ogre 1 <http://www.sodemons.com/rhogres/rhgolgfags2.htm>

Ogre 2 <http://www.solegends.com/citrr/rr08golgfagsm12.htm>

I have also included a pic of the miniature in question.

Standard Bearer
<http://www.displacedminiatures.com/raf1870/image/2924/30232/>

Any feedback welcome.

Cheers



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(Off the topic of Citadel, but in reply to a question posed to the  group.)

SOL is indeed lacking info on both Black Baron and Standard  Miniatures.
The Blue Mule page has some info about the history of Black  Baron.

(If you are not familiar with the Blue Mule page, it is a great resource,
put together by a pair of sisters in the UK who are extremely knowledgeable
and  helpful).

Black Baron figures were sold in the UK by Borbur Enterprises, and in  the
U.S. by Stone Mountain Miniatures.  There are two different figure  codes
for each figure, with the prefix B for UK figures and the prefix FBR for  US
figures.  There are also some figures which were blistered as Stone  Mountain
rather than Back Baron which have no base markings.

Some Black Baron figures are shown on the Lost Minis Wiki.

There is currently no information up online about Standard Miniatures on
SOL, and there is no section for them on the Lost Minis Wiki.

We own most of the minis from these two companies, and as we open blisters
to paint miniatures, we are taking pictures so we can put together a good
resource for these, as well as a couple of other lines that are not very
well  documented.  I don't know ultimately if we'll look to add the info to
SOL,  or the Lost Minis Wiki, or put up our own site.  In the meantime, if any
other group members have a catalog, scans of ads for Black Baron or
Standard  Miniatures, or figures to part with, please let us know.

-Brady & Jen







> For those interested in other lines, I listed some Dragontooth,
Minifigs,
> Dark Horse, Grenadier, Ral Partha, Heritage, Grim Reaper,  and some other
out
> of print companies.

It's a bit off topic,  but do you guys have any information about
Standard Miniatures? Minis looks  like nice, but SOL is not very helpful.

Brad, do you have more Fantasy  Warlord minis in stock?

Cheers,

Guillaume







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Jay has the Games for Troops site here:

http://sites.google.com/site/gamesfortroops/

Since the project started, there are now four different projects in
the works. The WHFB one is going to UK troops and it is truly
international as the dwarven contingent is coming from the UK while
the green-skins are being painted in the US.

Wyatt

Hi,

A few weeks ago there was s thread about recasts and where they could be sent so
that servicemen could have them.  I can't find it (I did search), so could
somebody provide that information?

I recently won some chaos centaurs, and two bodies and six torsos were recasts. 
I don't get the feeling the seller knew anything about "Collecting Citadel
Miniatures" it so I'm not going to raise a fuss.

Thanks!