I apologize to anyone I offended. I am not the only person that is sick to death of hearing about humidity though. Most people, when shown the error of their...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 7, 2002 4:16 pm
Thank you, Ross. An adolescent rant that claims because some reported research is cavalierly dismissed by the gangs that I might run with, and therefore must...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 4:39 pm
On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:54:55 -0700 Robert T Maginnis
<bobmagi@...> writes:
> If the government had given the water to the fish, all kinds of >...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 4:39 pm
On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:36:35 +0000 Ross Mayhew <rmayhew@...>
writes:
> Thanks a lot, Lance, for these very thought-provoking articles. So
> often...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 4:39 pm
... Pat land use can effect climate without warming it. The key factor here is the circulation of water, which is fundamental to how the climate works ...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 5:35 pm
... to ... "...each interacts with the other..." Aye, Lowell, there's the key. My pair of posts on "interactions" a couple weeks ago was aimed down that very...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 7, 2002 6:30 pm
John, what you have offended primarily is your own credibility. You may be sick of many things, but that will not diminish the unavoidable link between climate...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 7, 2002 6:47 pm
Lance, yes, stratospheric ozone depletion is a part of the broader global change issue. Given a quasi-constant influx of solar radiation, for the Earth's...
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Douglas McGinty
dugmcginty
Oct 7, 2002 7:07 pm
John, I have raised the issue with you off-line about your double standard of proof. On the one hand, you resist any idea of global warming and continually...
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Douglas McGinty
dugmcginty
Oct 7, 2002 7:17 pm
A drunk driver will get sick of hearing about DUI law enforcement. A compulsive gambler will get sick of hearing about paying off debts. An intravenous drug...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 8:06 pm
... warming will ... than it ... Lowell I have no argument with that, but another view is on board, and I had it in mind as I wrote. That view rises from some...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 7, 2002 9:20 pm
Lance, thanks for your post, especially so as I had missed your earlier posting of this NASA news release. I believe that it pretty fairly states what is...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 9:38 pm
... And that we have a full understanding of how sociopolitical systems work. ... You know I'm with you 100 percent on that! Even where the rudiments seem ...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 7, 2002 11:15 pm
Pat
without being sure what you refer to as mixed messages, I don't think
that complex interactions fit that description, and I don't think the
public will...
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npat1@...
patneuman2000
Oct 8, 2002 2:55 am
Roger Pielke Sr. and Steve Running said in their report: I quote:
"land-use changes such as farming, irrigation, and urban sprawl
contribute as much if not...
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John Shotsky
shotsky1
Oct 8, 2002 3:06 am
<Also, methane and carbon dioxide change our climate by trapping heat in the atmosphere before it can escape out to space. This greenhouse effect, much like...
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cygonaut
Oct 8, 2002 3:35 am
Imperialism. ... a word historians use when nations grab control of the resources of other places. It has to do with greed -- not security and democracy. "Oil...
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Nicholas Arguimbau
narguimbau
Oct 8, 2002 4:54 am
I don't understand (1) why it would be a "simple matter" to measure the trapped heat, and (2) what is meant by the satement that it "isn't there." With...
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npat1@...
patneuman2000
Oct 8, 2002 11:51 am
This 1995 book addresses the effects of land-use change (#19) and climatically important biogenic gases and feedbacks on global climatic change (#2), which...
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npat1@...
patneuman2000
Oct 8, 2002 11:51 am
... Here are: 1) An abstract on: "Increase in lower-stratospheric water vapour water vapour at a mid-latitude Northern Hemisphere site from 1981 to 1994 S.J....
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 8, 2002 1:33 pm
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:06:07 -0700 "John Shotsky" <shotsky1@...> ... Well, that eliminates any need of insulating the walls of homes, doesn't it? Or...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 8, 2002 1:33 pm
... of ... implying ... Pat I'm not sure that anyone has said that "greenhouse gas emissions may be less of a contributor to global WARMING than land use...
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John Shotsky
shotsky1
Oct 8, 2002 2:09 pm
At best, heat's travel to space can be slowed down. That's exactly what insulation does, and the R Rating is the value of that slowdown. Heat leaving earth...
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MCGINNESS, Stephen
smcginnessuk
Oct 8, 2002 2:19 pm
... Thank you. That is an excellent everyday explanation of how greenhouse gases work - I may steal that from you!!...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 8, 2002 2:36 pm
... And that we have a full understanding of how sociopolitical systems work. Good point, Lance, devising approaches that work with human nature to promote the...
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Robert T Maginnis
bobmaginnis
Oct 8, 2002 2:51 pm
The World is going to freeze and we are all going to die, but meanwhile extra heat is being 'trapped' by anthropogenic CO2 increases, the Ocean temperatures...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 8, 2002 3:13 pm
Many of us could find amusement in picking apart the stories written by reporters on recent scientific papers. Certainly, there is much simplification that...
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Lance Olsen
lanceolsen@...
Oct 8, 2002 3:28 pm
First, as Pat has stressed, the atmosphere is holding more water:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/MediaAlerts/2000/200001271632.h
tml
Satellite...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 8, 2002 3:46 pm
Pat, the Nature paper by Oltmans and Hofmann is a good reference for what has actually been happening in the lower stratosphere. There is nothing so good as...
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SMITH.LOWELL@...
Oct 8, 2002 4:14 pm
Pat, Well, I've not read the book from cover to cover, although I have it on my bookshelf. It is a compilation of the papers and discussion at a conference on...
