Dear All, Recently I rediscovered www.chooseclimate.org . This site is one of the best about Climate Change, because it enables everybody to calculate impacts ...
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npat1@...
Dec 1, 2000 12:18 pm
... it may become like drinking and driving I think smoking - along with the implications of second hand smoke - should be added to the antisocial nature of...
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Michael Neuman
mtneuman@...
Dec 1, 2000 8:08 pm
... Welcome. Here is the basis concept. I posted the full latest and last version of the Conserve, NOW! paper on this list the first week of November. Please...
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Leonard Kater
lgwkater@...
Dec 1, 2000 9:52 pm
Hi boyth Michaels Neuman & Meuser Here I present some ideas about the need to reduce the DEMAND for travel. First of all the NEED to reduce travel: Thid need...
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npat1@...
Dec 2, 2000 12:29 am
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:56:25 -0000 "Michael Meuser" ... about re posting your "new, unique and revolutionary proposal" I'd love to read it. Mike Meuser,...
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Doug Hunt
dhunt@...
Dec 2, 2000 1:01 am
Ahem....... Seems to me the more pressing question is how to reduce the the combustion and release of GHGs in energy production, transportation and...
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Hallyx@...
Dec 2, 2000 1:42 am
Bob Hicks laments: "Gee - I must be in a sour mood today." Not at all, Bob. In fact I find the concept, as described, extrememly frightening. "What it is about...
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npat1@...
Dec 2, 2000 11:58 am
Doug, I think if you read Mike's proposal you will see that his concept is much more than just providing incentives to people to reduce travel. Travel is not...
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Michael Meuser
meuser@...
Dec 2, 2000 2:08 pm
I agree. Transportation is a big issue. Last year I worked a lot with EPA's cumulative exposure project data. I was amazed that in many census tracts across...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 4:44 pm
I noticed one thing in the conserve mile plan which was not included, we are obviously concerned about the output of CO2. Some people own electric cars which...
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Robert T Maginnis
bobmagi@...
Dec 2, 2000 5:54 pm
Li, Electric vehicles create emissions because of the required electrical energy, 50%+ of which, in the USA, is generated by coal power plants. The electric ...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 6:07 pm
The rate is much lower still. Sorry I thought about it after too. But in the case where people do need to travel in the real world. It is a much more equitable...
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Leonard Kater
lgwkater@...
Dec 2, 2000 6:20 pm
Hi Bob, ... I quite agree with this. Anyways it is a step into the right direction. Once all electric energy is generated by PV, wind, hydro, wave or tidal ...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 6:22 pm
I checked the GE website even with electricity charging time included on the EV-1 there is a 97% reduction in emmissions to a current car with california ...
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gjvalentine
gjvalentine@...
Dec 2, 2000 7:10 pm
HYDROELECTRIC POWER NOT FREE OF GREENHOUSE GASES CAPE TOWN, South Africa, December 1, 2000 (ENS) - The reservoirs of many large dams built to generate...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 7:11 pm
<A HREF="http://www.gmev.com/environment/environment.htm">EV1</A> -- If it pops up EV1 check in the environment section. That is where this actual number is...
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npat1@...
Dec 2, 2000 7:45 pm
On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 19:25:16 +0100 "Leonard Kater" <lgwkater@...> ... easy. Cutting the number of miles traveled, instead of having travel greatly ...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 8:33 pm
I am pretty sure these guys at the EPA are helping to work) on cleaner emmission releases on industry prospective.) I admit if anyone has the actual air...
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Doug Hunt
dhunt@...
Dec 2, 2000 9:12 pm
Being "pretty sure" is not sufficient. It is unholy assumptions that have brought us to where we are. In fact, EPA does have estimates on their web site as...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 9:33 pm
Being pretty sure was sarcasm. I know there have been vigorous updates, 1984, 1987, 1991,1993, and 1997 on VOC rulings. Being pretty sure didn't lead us to a...
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TDietzVT@...
Dec 2, 2000 9:58 pm
The final report of the US National Assessment of the Potential Consequences of Climate Variability and Change is now online at: ...
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TDietzVT@...
Dec 2, 2000 9:58 pm
Papers presented at the Workshop on Education, Information and Voluntary Measures for Environmental Protection are on the web at: ...
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Doug Hunt
dhunt@...
Dec 2, 2000 10:42 pm
[Image] It is being "pretty sure" and making loony assumptions -- like "we know how to fix it" and that there is somewhere "away" to throw anything and that...
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baselic@...
Dec 2, 2000 11:23 pm
I want to see those statistics on GM foods, particularly the ones on the EPA saying its ok to eat "every gm food." Starlink corn" I can see your arguments are...
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rhicks
rhicks3@...
Dec 3, 2000 5:13 am
Here is a site that may be of interest to anyone interested in learing more about what is going on with fuel cells. http://www.h2fc.com/defaultIE4.html Bob...
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Jan Bojer Vindheim
jan@...
Dec 3, 2000 3:19 pm
... That depends on how the electricity is produced. Are we talking about global emissiions? if so electric vehicles are just a local bandaid. jan b vindheim ...
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Robert T Maginnis
bobmagi@...
Dec 3, 2000 3:53 pm
baselic@... wrote: I checked the GE website even with electricity charging time included on the EV-1 there is a 97% reduction in emmissions to a current...
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npat1@...
Dec 3, 2000 5:10 pm
Extended Outlook for Lake Superior, Lake Michigan, Lake Huron Patrick J. Neuman, hydrologist - private citizen - December 3, 2000 The latest National...
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baselic@...
Dec 3, 2000 5:32 pm
I wrote to GM and asked where they got there three percent figure from exactly on emmissions, they say on the website if you read it includes burning from coal...
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Doug Hunt
dhunt@...
Dec 4, 2000 4:12 am
ad hominem .... please .... do your own research before spewing ....... For those of us who have been working on this issue for a decade or more, it's...
