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#21459 From: Bobbie <bobkatjane@...>
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 7:46 pm
Subject: Chinese for Adoptive Parents - Advertisement 		bobkatjane
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Below is an advertisement for the CD I am selling. I have been getting very good
reviews on it from families that are purchasing it. Sorry if the advertisement
sounds a little monty hall as I am not really a sales person. But the CD is a
great learning tool if you care to learn to speak to your baby or child before
meeting them. :o)*

So here goes... Waiting for that referral and want something worth while to do.
How about learning some simple phrases to help ease the transistion for your new
baby/child. *Chinese for the Adoptive Parent contains over 180 phrases that you
will want to learn. From simple questions about needs like "Are you hungry?" to
sharing feelings like "I love you" to identifying yourself, "We are your Mommy
and Daddy," This tape/CD has it all. Each comes with a printed sheet of what is
on the tape/CD with Romanized and Mandarin translations. Can you imagine
anything more comforting to your new baby during that transition time than to
hear you speak familiar phrases to them. Tapes are15.99 includingshipping and
handling, CD's are 20.99includes shipping and handling. To learn more go to the
website below.

http://www.chineseforadoptiveparents.com/ChinesefortheAdoptiveParent.html
*copyright 2003

HI. I am Bobbie Steve.I haveseven adopted children.Three adopted from
China.I created this CD to help adoptive parents learn to speak their new
child's motherlanguage they were used to hearing to comfort and console them
during the transition to their new language. I also created it as a way to raise
themoney I was short for my adoption.Now that myadoption is complete I am now
setting up a fund for grants and any monies earned above cost will go to help
other families adopt from China.Grant monieswill take some time to build up,
but my hope is that I can do an annual grant given each year on the anniversary
of our Chinese daughter's gotcha day, May 9, 2004. So check out the site and see
what you think. It is a great way to pass the time while you wait and to help
other families realize their adoption dreams.

Thanks,

Bobbie Steve*

Wouldn't you like to say "I love you," to your baby in a language they
understand?
http://chineseforadoptiveparents.com/ChinesefortheAdoptiveParent.html
John & Bobbie - Jim 33, Misty 31, Kristy 29, Brandy 29, Elijah 9 USA, Katie 12
UA, Luke 8 RU, Ajia 6 China, Julia 13 RU, Samuel 6 China & Mathew3 China




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#21458 From: "Sharp, Maureen K." <msharp@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: China Orphans on NPR "Here and Now" today 		chinadreammommy
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I am sorry for the late notice, but I just heard a mention that today's
broadcast of a radio show on my local NPR station called "Here and Now" (at
12:00 noon EST) will deal with one mother's quest to try to discover if her
daughter, adopted from China was really an orphan, or if she was the victim of
child trafficking or kidnapping.  It may be too late to hear it live on the
internet, but the local station is WBAA just in case, and you may be able to
listen to it later on the net.

Maureen
Chinadreammommy to Lily MeiQiang
http://www.sharpbooks.com/



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#21457 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 2:29 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 12/07/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

---

For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

---
Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21456 From: "lotusseattle" <lea@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: Looking Ahead -- Lunar New Year & Spring Break 		lotusseattle
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Parents, let your kids know that they can win a $200 travel voucher!!  Lotus
Travel is sponsoring a Lunar New Year Card drawing contest and has two age
categories (ages 4-7 & ages 8-12).  We will feature selected drawings on our
website and announce winners after January.  Click this link for details: 
http://www.lotustours.net/Newsletter/2009/Nov/New_Year_Contest.shtml

Also, as you consider the holiday seasons ahead, consider an Ultimate Spring
Break trip to China. There are currently slots open on the popular Uncle
Louie tour which departs March 26th and visits Beijing, Xian, Chengdu, Guilin,
Yangshuo and Guangzhou. You can also include a visit to your childs province
and orphanage.  Click this link to review itinerary details:
http://www.lotustours.net/travel/LY-HA10-0326.html

Contact louie@... to explore your family visiting China during Spring
Break 2010. We guarantee your experience will be unforgettable!!!

Have a wonderful weekend!


Lea Xu
Vice-President
Lotus Travel: Uniting Families and Connecting Cultures

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#21455 From: Becca Piper <beccapipertiesprogram@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:48 am
Subject: World Ties Shoppe Sale--Global Gifts with Purpose 		beccapiperti...
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World Ties Ornament SALE
One week only—Sale ends December 10 
 
Project Kindness.....With your help, a child somewhere in the world will receive
a more nutritious meal, have better health care, or sleep in a warmer bed
because you chose to share in this project and its expression of hope and love.
 
Lots of other great items in the World Ties Shoppe too! Plus, ANYTHING you
purchase on Amazon.com via the link on our site adds to the World Ties Fund and
costs you NO more than shopping Amazon directly.
 
ALL PROCEEDS DONATED in orphanages and child care facilities, as well as
assisted homes for birth parents in Cambodia, Chile, China, Guatemala, India,
Korea, Paraguay, Peru, the Philippines, Romania, Russia, Vietnam.
 
http://www.adoptivefamilytravel.com/aid_world_ties.asp#world
 
World Ties is the 501 ( C) 3 sister organization of The Ties Program.
 
Thank you!
 Becca Piper,AP
Founder-The Ties Program & World Ties
www.AdoptiveFamilyTravel.com



"I am not the same having seen the moon shine on another part of the world."
--Unknown




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#21454 From: "Jennifer Wilson-Pines" <Jwpines@...>
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:35 am
Subject: Re: camera opinions. 		jwpines
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That depends on what you want. If you are only shooting stills than there are
loads of entries in the under $500 market. I chose my Canon powershot because it
also shoots up to an hour of decent  quality video and I only had to carry one
thing. It's not tiny like the latest pocket cameras (about the size of an old
SLR film camera, but lighter) but it did a great job capturing our trip.
  Look for optical zoom - digital zoom is just cropping and degrading picture
quality.Then you also want stabilizing technology.  Most cameras take 2-4GB
cards now. I'd go with two 2 gig cards and keep swapping them. It is possible to
fill them up especially if you are shooting video, I ran out a 1 gig card in the
Forbidden City. Download everyday if you have a lap top with you - but don't
delete form your memory card (ok delete the crummy stuff) until you get home. I
went so far as to e-mail really important pix just to make sure they existed
somewhere. Extra batteries and charger are a worthwhile investment.
Jennifer W
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#21453 From: ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: File - Links 		ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com
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Dear Friends

Have you dug into the "Links" lately?


***********

What are Links ?  (or Files or Messages)?

Information stored for you.  Index format.  Very organized.

*************

Where are the Links and Files?

First go to our website:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaTravel

(Note:  Every single Yahoo elist has a website, in similar format, with the
group name at the end)

Look on the Left side of the screen:

for websites click on "Links"
for pictures and Files click on "Files"
for group discussion click on "Messages"


***********

Who can use?
Everyone.  No need to join the list to use the information.  .


************

What can you find there?
Information stored logically.  Major topics are listed below:



Links - Major Topics


1 - Upon Referral Checklist!:  Use this checklist at Referral; Find out about
baby, province, etc!  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!

2- Travel Checklist!:  Checklist right before Travel; Did you get it all done?
Ready?  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!

3- Home at Last Checklist:  Bookmarks to help after you're home; medical, SS
card, passport, etc.  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!

Adoption Agency Travel:  How each agency handles travel

AirLines - AirFares - AirPorts: every airline, airport info, search engines,
flight trackers, etc

Books:  On China travel, Book search engines

Cameras - Film - Pictures - Video:  Wisdom on specs, tips, gadgets to record the
moment

Chinese Info & News:  Culture, Holidays, History, China Today, & Newspapers

Communicating:  with China - Phone, Email, Language, Translations

Conversions:  Time, Money, Height, Weight, Temp, etc

Electricity & Converters

Food & Water

Gifts for Officials & Orphanage Workers

Government Info:  U.S. & China - Embassies, STate Dept., Customs

Home at Last!:  Preparing for Reality

Hotels:  U.S. & China

Kids & Family Travel:  Traveling Tips, Heritage Trip, Take or Leave, Baby
Essentials for Home

Laundry:  prices, places, tips

Maps:  China

Medical:  Before, During, After the trip

Money:  ATM's, Converting, Traveler's Cheques, etc

Orphanage:  Info & Packages

Packing & Luggage:  also see "CarryOnOnly" elist: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarryOnOnly

Paperwork:  Adoption

Pictures of China!:  See other's albums before you go, red couch pics, etc.

Safety & Baby Gear:  Carseats, Travel tips, Baby B'Airs, etc

Shopping:  See "ChinaShopping" elist: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaShopping

Sightseeing - Tours - Cities:  compiled source of online travel info

Transportation - (Not Flight):  Buses, Trains, Hydrofoils, Rickshaws

Travel Agents:  China Specialists

Travel Insurance:  sources and info

Travel Journals & Itineraries:  Journals, Itineraries, & Living in China

Travel Tips:  Not otherwise categorized

Visas - Passports - POA:  Couriers, Consulates, Instructions, & Forms

Weather:  know before you go

WebCams:  Ultra Cool


*************

Trails:  How to locate certain Links:

If you wanted info about books on Hong Kong, you might be informed of a trail
like this:

Links > Books > Hong Kong

which means that you would go to the website, click on "Links" button, then on
"Books" folder, then on "Hong Kong" folder


************

Notes:

"Links" were previously called "Bookmarks,"  a term still often used.

Anyone may add Links.  You are encouraged to contribute if you like

The ChinaShopping elist can educate on your precious China purchases: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaShopping

The CarryOnOnly elist can help you pack lighter: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarryOnOnly


**********

Hope that helps!
Have a fabulous adoption journey!
Teresa in TX

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#21452 From: jakesjag@...
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: camera opinions. 		marjacobs_2000
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Hi -

I really like my Kodak Easy Share 2712 IS.  I like it because it has a powerful
zoom of 10 or 12 but it is still  small enough to fit into my purse.  It also
has excellent video.

One source to check out cameras is feedback left on Amazon.

Good luck
Marilyn



-----Original Message-----
From: billbenton55 <bbenton55@...>
To: ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 11:37 am
Subject: [ChinaTravel] camera opinions.




Hey guys,

We have lurked here for quite some time and have enjoyed reading all the posts.
We are now waiting to go to China for our 5th adoption. All of our adoptions
went smoothly in China but it seems every 2 years we go again.
This trip will have to be the last as I'm aging out. We are hoping to go around
12/17, but as always, we are waiting on China and the powers that be.
All that said, we have used the same camera on all of our trips since 2002 and
it is on its last legs.
Any recommendations?

Tanx
Bill

DW: Toni
DS: John,23,homegrown, Air Force Academy Grad and married 2009 DD: Theresa,8,
adopted 2002
DD: Abigail,6, adopted 2004
DD: Faith,15, adopted 2006
DS: Alex,4, adopted 2008
DS: Sam, 18mnths waiting







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#21451 From: "billbenton55" <bbenton55@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:37 pm
Subject: camera opinions. 		billbenton55
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Hey guys,

We have lurked here for quite some time and have enjoyed reading all the posts.
We are now waiting to go to China for our 5th adoption.  All of our adoptions
went smoothly in China but it seems every 2 years we go again.
This trip will have to be the last as I'm aging out. We are hoping to go around
12/17, but as always, we are waiting on China and the powers that be.
All that said, we have used the same camera on all of our trips since 2002 and
it is on its last legs.
Any recommendations?

Tanx
Bill

DW: Toni
DS: John,23,homegrown, Air Force Academy Grad and married 2009       DD:
Theresa,8, adopted 2002
DD: Abigail,6, adopted 2004
DD: Faith,15, adopted 2006
DS: Alex,4, adopted 2008
DS: Sam, 18mnths waiting

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#21450 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:55 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 11/30/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

---

For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

---
Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21449 From: "orilla22" <orilla22@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:24 pm
Subject: China's Fees 		orilla22
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Hi all:

I am making my China budget and I was wondering if someone can share with me the
actual China's Fee

Kindest regards,

Vanessa

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#21448 From: Jane Liedtke <janeliedtke@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:14 pm
Subject: OCDF & CHI St. Louis Culture Day December 5th 		janeliedtke
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Don't forget to sign up with Lynn at OCDF 309-829-8202 and 1-866-460-OCDF (toll
free) for the December 5th Chinese Culture Day in St. Louis (Holiday Inn South
County Center). http://www.ocdf.org/events/stl.doc  Deadline December 1st.

December 5, 2009
Don’t miss this fun-filled culture day with some really special features!
Preregister Today!  There is no on-site registration.
Special Author Programs                            
                    
Jean MacLeod – Adoption Author/Editor of At Home in this World and Adoption
Parenting (and Adoptive Mom) will conduct the “TEENS Write & Illustrate their
Story” Workshop (for teens), “Adoption – Parenting Your Tween” (for
parents), and “Attachment Therapy: A Parent’s Guide to Asking Questions”
(for parents)                     
                            
Special Sessions for Teens and Kids:
Kids Helping Kids and Teens Give Back
One session for kids/teens to make blankets and dolls for orphanages in China
Movie for Teens and Parents: The Blood of Yinzhou District
(Academy Award Winning Documentary about children orphaned when their parents
died of AIDS)
Chinese Traditional Arts and Crafts & Games for Kids
Inner Bottle Painting, Kite Decorating, Peking Opera Mask and Puppet-making for
The Monkey King Story-telling,
Lantern-making, Calligraphy, and Games Kids Play in China
Special Sessions on China Adoption Issues:
Forum on the Status of Orphanages from China with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Resources for Chinese Culture and Language Learning wth Dr. Jane Liedtke

Special Sessions on Homeland Travel & Living in China
Returning to China with Your Adopted Child and What’s in an Orphanage File?
with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Attend the above session and receive $500 off coupon for an OCDF group tour!
Meeting Birthparents in China – When a homeland tour becomes a birthfamily
reunion with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Teen Leadership Camp & Tween/Teen and Family Volunteer Programs in China with
Dr. Jane Liedtke
What’s it like to go to school  in China with Emily Liedtke
 

 




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#21447 From: "Caroline" <ceaknight@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: Asiana Airlines to offer more services for parents with babies 		ceaknight
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For anyone still trying to decide on an airline for their adoption trip, Asiana
has started a new service they are entitling "Happy Mother".  For families
traveling with babies under 24 months, you will now have your own expedited
ticketing line, expedited boarding, and your checked bags will be tagged with
the priority tag to be the first off of the plane.  Like other airlines, they
have the bassinets but they are also now offering car seats for babies with
their own ticket as well as offering slings so you can walk around the airplane
easier with your baby (although I know most of us bring our own sling/carrier).

Asiana has a 5-star ranking with Skytrax and amazingly, has some pretty good
fares!  Their coach class was ranked #1 in the world in 2008 and their cabin
crew is superb (they have always taken great care of us).

One drawback - no direct flights to China from the U.S.  You have a layover in
Seoul (which is a nice airport).

Caroline K.

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#21446 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:52 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 11/23/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

---

For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

---
Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21445 From: "lotusseattle" <lea@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:33 pm
Subject: OT: Happy Adoption Month from Lotus Travel 		lotusseattle
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National Adoption Month: Special Letter


Since November is a special month for all of us touched by adoption, Lotus
Travel is publishing a special letter in recognition of it.   Our letter
features non-profit groups that provide support and resources to adoptive
families, as well as a summary of recent groundbreaking research study.

We are happy to announce our first ever Lunar New Year card contest which is
open to kids ages 6-12.  The winner will secure a $200 travel voucher for their
family's future heritage travel and at the same time have a bit of fun and
publicity!  You can also see our brand new "Ultimate Spring Break" tour for
2010.

We also offer ten suggested ways to celebrate adoption month as a family, and
have a featured interview with Jeff Gammage, author of the well known book,
"China Ghosts".
You can read the full text at:
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs006/1101202713527/archive/1102756956036.htm\
l  or sign up at www.lotustours.net for our regular newsletter.

Happy Adoption Month!

Lea Xu
Vice-President
Lotus Travel Inc.
"Uniting Families and Connecting Cultures"

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#21444 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:31 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 11/16/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

---

For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

---
Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21443 From: Jane Liedtke <janeliedtke@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:56 pm
Subject: Don't miss Chinese Culture and Travel to China in St Louis Dec 5th 		janeliedtke
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Our Chinese Daughters Foundation will  host a Chinese Culture event in St
Louis, Missouri on Saturday, December 5. Parents and children (including
families with Chinese daughters and sons) can learn more about Chinese culture
as well as orphanage life and homeland tours.
Holiday Marketplace!!!
Below are some of the topics to be covered:

Future of Adoption from China with Dr. Jane Liedtke and Melody Zhang of CHI
Lifebook Workshops for Adoptive Parents with Jennifer Demar
Chinese Culture Basics for Adoptive Families with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Resources for Chinese Culture and Language Learning with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Mom’s Give Back – Making blankets and dolls with Lynn Warren

Special Sessions on Homeland Travel & Living in China
Returning to China with Your Adopted Child and
What’s in an Orphanage File? with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Meeting Birthparents in China –
                      When a homeland tour becomes a birth
family reunion with Dr. Jane Liedtke
How to Live and Work in China with Dr. Jane Liedtke
Living in China and Going to School as an Adopted Kid – Q&A with Emily Liedtke
Kids Helping Kids and Teens Give Back
Sessions for kids/teens to make blankets and dolls for orphanages in China
Movies for Tweens/Teens and Parents: The Blood of Yinzhou District
(Academy Award Winning Documentary about children orphaned when their parents
died of AIDS)
and Not One Less – the story of a village girl who becomes the teacher at age
12
Chinese Traditional Arts and Crafts & Games for Kids
Inner Bottle Painting, Kite Decorating, Peking Opera Mask and Puppet-making,
Lantern-making,
Fan Painting and Calligraphy, Finger Puppets and Games Kids Play in China
The St Louis event will be a 3-for-1 opportunity to meet some CHI staff and do a
little holiday shopping as well!
CLICK HERE FOR REGISTRATION DETAILS
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#21442 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:41 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 11/09/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

---

For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

---
Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21441 From: Bobbie <bobkatjane@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 6:40 pm
Subject: Fortune Cookie Magazine 		bobkatjane
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http://ezine.f-c-n.com/ezine.htm?logo=fcn&bg=5&skin=5&catalogURL=fcn200807.xml

This is the website of a magazine I see frequently in our local Chinese take out
place. It always has the neatest information. I thought I would share it as I
thought some of you might be interested.

Enjoy,

Bobbie*
Wouldn't you like to say "I love you," to your baby in a language they
understand?
http://www.chineseforadoptiveparents.com/RussianforAdoptiveParents.html for
Russian
http://www.chineseforadoptiveparents.com/ChinesefortheAdoptiveParent.html for
Chinese.
John & Bobbie - Jim 33, Misty 31, Kristy 29, Brandy 29, Elijah 9 USA, Katie 12
UA, Luke 8 RU, Ajia 6 China, Julia 13 RU, Samuel 6 China & Mathew 3 China




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#21440 From: Jane Liedtke <janeliedtke@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 7:28 pm
Subject: Chinese Food Playing Cards for Travel and Language Learning 		janeliedtke
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They are here! Our shipment of decks of playing cards with Chinese foods - photo
of dish/food, name in English, pinyin and characters - has arrived at OCDF's US
Office.

These playing cards are ideal not only for language learning but for ordering
foods while in China. Just select from the 52 cards which dishes you would like
and show to your waitress/waiter to easily order. If you can't read a Chinese
menu it does not matter any longer. Just pop in your pocket the cards for your
favorite foods and you will always have yummy meals. We've slected foods that
most foreigners enjoy while in China.

Ideal as a Christmas stocking stuffer and Channuka present
Great item for families getting ready to travel to China to adopt
Heading on a Homeland Tour? Don't leave home without these cards!
Great way to learn the names of dishes in Chinese
Fun for the entire family - can play regular card games and learn Chinese foods
at the same time!

Order by phone 1-866-460-OCDF (toll free), $8.00 per pack plus mailing. Ask for
Lynn or Chen or Patti. Pay by visa or mastercard
Email order to Patti@...

By Mail send your name/address/email/phone to: OCDF, PO Box 1243, Bloomington,
IL 61702-1243 (we will call you to get your credit card number for the payment)

And, proceeds help orphan support projects in China!
Thanks!
Jane







Dr. Jane Liedtke, CEOand FounderJane@...
Our Chinese Daughters Foundation www.ocdf.org
Support for Adoptive Families Since 1995
Join Ask Jane in China! AskjaneinChina-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
In USA: 309-829-8202 Toll Free: 1-866-460-OCDF Fax: 309-828-6141
In China: 011-8610-8403-4979 Fax: 011-8610-8403-4931


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#21439 From: Bobbie <bobkatjane@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 2:32 am
Subject: Chinese for Adoptive Parents - Advertisement 		bobkatjane
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Below is an advertisement for the CD I am selling. I have been getting very good
reviews on it from families that are purchasing it. Sorry if the advertisement
sounds a little monty hall as I am not really a sales person. But the CD is a
great learning tool if you care to learn to speak to your baby or child before
meeting them. :o)*

So here goes... Waiting for that referral and want something worth while to do.
How about learning some simple phrases to help ease the transistion for your new
baby/child. *Chinese for the Adoptive Parent contains over 180 phrases that you
will want to learn. From simple questions about needs like "Are you hungry?" to
sharing feelings like "I love you" to identifying yourself, "We are your Mommy
and Daddy," This tape/CD has it all. Each comes with a printed sheet of what is
on the tape/CD with Romanized and Mandarin translations. Can you imagine
anything more comforting to your new baby during that transition time than to
hear you speak familiar phrases to them. Tapes are15.99 includingshipping and
handling, CD's are 20.99includes shipping and handling. To learn more go to the
website below.

http://www.chineseforadoptiveparents.com/ChinesefortheAdoptiveParent.html
*copyright 2003

HI. I am Bobbie Steve.I haveseven adopted children.Three adopted from
China.I created this CD to help adoptive parents learn to speak their new
child's motherlanguage they were used to hearing to comfort and console them
during the transition to their new language. I also created it as a way to raise
themoney I was short for my adoption.Now that myadoption is complete I am now
setting up a fund for grants and any monies earned above cost will go to help
other families adopt from China.Grant monieswill take some time to build up,
but my hope is that I can do an annual grant given each year on the anniversary
of our Chinese daughter's gotcha day, May 9, 2004. So check out the site and see
what you think. It is a great way to pass the time while you wait and to help
other families realize their adoption dreams.

Thanks,

Bobbie Steve*

Wouldn't you like to say "I love you," to your baby in a language they
understand?
http://chineseforadoptiveparents.com/ChinesefortheAdoptiveParent.html
John & Bobbie - Jim 33, Misty 31, Kristy 29, Brandy 29, Elijah 9 USA, Katie 12
UA, Luke 8 RU, Ajia 6 China, Julia 13 RU, Samuel 6 China & Mathew3 China

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#21438 From: Becca Piper <beccapipertiesprogram@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: Q and A Series Group? 		beccapiperti...
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In a continuation of our Q. and A.
Series….

One of our most frequently asked
questions has to do with . . .

Group
Travel or Not?

So, we posed this question to Eva Ash,
an adoptive parent and clinical psychologist:

Q.  As an adoptive family that has
taken a homeland journey, how did you feel about traveling with a group before
you traveled? What was it like to travel with a group? Are you happy or unhappy
that you decided to travel with a group, and why?

Eva's answer is "classic."
It is what we hear from pretty much every family that has ever had qualms about
group travel.  Thanks Eva for your great input!
A.  This was the exact question we had as we began to
plan our homeland journey!  We are not group travelers.  But as we
began to think seriously about how best to do a homeland tour, we realized
several things that pointed us toward group travel in general and The Ties
Program specifically.
	 * First of all, if we had traveled independently I (the mom of the family)
would have become the tour guide, travel agent, translator, and referee.  Plus I
wanted to still be on speaking terms with my family when we returned.  We knew
that by traveling with Ties all of the logistics would be taken care of for us.
	 * Second, we knew that homeland travel (and actually any travel involving
children) comes with extra stresses.  We wanted to be able to "just" be parents
on this trip so that we could take care of ourselves and our son should the
emotion of homeland travel overwhelm one or more of us.
	 * Third, we suspected that especially as an only child our son would benefit
from traveling with other kids.  And boy were we right on this one!  The kids on
our trip formed an amazingly close bond. While in-country, the kids loved to sit
in the back of the bus chatting with each other, playing each other's handheld
gaming devices, and looking out the windows appreciating the beauty of their
birth country.  They loved knowing all the other kids at the hotel pools (the
honeymooning couples didn't seem to appreciate our group as much).
	 * Finally, we thought that traveling with the support of social workers would
benefit our whole family as we processed our experiences.  Some of us swore
before traveling that we would opt out of this part of the trip, but as it
turned out none of us did.  And surprisingly it was our son (famously a
non-talker when it comes to adoption issues) who enjoyed the chat sessions the
most!

But there was an added
benefit to group travel that we hadn't anticipated:  having other adults to keep
US company!  We had so much in common since so many of us were anxiously
excited about the trip:  Would our kids love us or hate us for visiting
their birth country?  Had we picked the right age for homeland
travel?  Had we made the right decisions in terms of connecting (or not)
with significant people from our kids' early lives?  Were we really going
to eat the local delicacy of deep fried tarantula as we had promised our
kids?  (2 kids and 4 adults did!).  It was also nice to travel with
other families that look like ours and understand the particular politics of
adoption from our son's birth country.

So yes, in the end we were
extremely satisfied that we made the choice to travel with a Ties group.
In fact, we are planning a family trip to Paris and might just become group
travelers.  If only Ties led tours of
European capitals...

We
are honored to be part of this profound, life changing experience in your
life experience of adoption, and thrilled to tell you that it is not just
little old ladies with blue hair that think group travel is a good thing!

Sincerely,
  Becca Piper,AP
Founder-The Ties Program & World Ties
www.AdoptiveFamilyTravel.com
A global project--USA based


"I am not the same having seen the moon shine on another part of the world."
--Unknown





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#21437 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:49 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 11/02/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

---

For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

---
Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21436 From: "leigha10538" <nicoj@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: File - Links 		leigha10538
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I think someone needs to update the link page.  Out of 8 I randomly clicked on,
6 did not work anymore.

Kathleen




> Dear Friends
>
> Have you dug into the "Links" lately?
>
>
> ***********
>
> What are Links ?  (or Files or Messages)?
>
> Information stored for you.  Index format.  Very organized.
>
> *************
>
> Where are the Links and Files?
>
> First go to our website:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaTravel
>
> (Note:  Every single Yahoo elist has a website, in similar format, with the
group name at the end)
>
> Look on the Left side of the screen:
>
> for websites click on "Links"
> for pictures and Files click on "Files"
> for group discussion click on "Messages"
>
>
> ***********
>
> Who can use?
> Everyone.  No need to join the list to use the information.  .
>
>
> ************
>
> What can you find there?
> Information stored logically.  Major topics are listed below:
>
>
>
> Links - Major Topics
>
>
> 1 - Upon Referral Checklist!:  Use this checklist at Referral; Find out about
baby, province, etc!  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!
>
> 2- Travel Checklist!:  Checklist right before Travel; Did you get it all done?
Ready?  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!
>
> 3- Home at Last Checklist:  Bookmarks to help after you're home; medical, SS
card, passport, etc.  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!
>
> Adoption Agency Travel:  How each agency handles travel
>
> AirLines - AirFares - AirPorts: every airline, airport info, search engines,
flight trackers, etc
>
> Books:  On China travel, Book search engines
>
> Cameras - Film - Pictures - Video:  Wisdom on specs, tips, gadgets to record
the moment
>
> Chinese Info & News:  Culture, Holidays, History, China Today, & Newspapers
>
> Communicating:  with China - Phone, Email, Language, Translations
>
> Conversions:  Time, Money, Height, Weight, Temp, etc
>
> Electricity & Converters
>
> Food & Water
>
> Gifts for Officials & Orphanage Workers
>
> Government Info:  U.S. & China - Embassies, STate Dept., Customs
>
> Home at Last!:  Preparing for Reality
>
> Hotels:  U.S. & China
>
> Kids & Family Travel:  Traveling Tips, Heritage Trip, Take or Leave, Baby
Essentials for Home
>
> Laundry:  prices, places, tips
>
> Maps:  China
>
> Medical:  Before, During, After the trip
>
> Money:  ATM's, Converting, Traveler's Cheques, etc
>
> Orphanage:  Info & Packages
>
> Packing & Luggage:  also see "CarryOnOnly" elist: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarryOnOnly
>
> Paperwork:  Adoption
>
> Pictures of China!:  See other's albums before you go, red couch pics, etc.
>
> Safety & Baby Gear:  Carseats, Travel tips, Baby B'Airs, etc
>
> Shopping:  See "ChinaShopping" elist: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaShopping
>
> Sightseeing - Tours - Cities:  compiled source of online travel info
>
> Transportation - (Not Flight):  Buses, Trains, Hydrofoils, Rickshaws
>
> Travel Agents:  China Specialists
>
> Travel Insurance:  sources and info
>
> Travel Journals & Itineraries:  Journals, Itineraries, & Living in China
>
> Travel Tips:  Not otherwise categorized
>
> Visas - Passports - POA:  Couriers, Consulates, Instructions, & Forms
>
> Weather:  know before you go
>
> WebCams:  Ultra Cool
>
>
> *************
>
> Trails:  How to locate certain Links:
>
> If you wanted info about books on Hong Kong, you might be informed of a trail
like this:
>
> Links > Books > Hong Kong
>
> which means that you would go to the website, click on "Links" button, then on
"Books" folder, then on "Hong Kong" folder
>
>
> ************
>
> Notes:
>
> "Links" were previously called "Bookmarks,"  a term still often used.
>
> Anyone may add Links.  You are encouraged to contribute if you like
>
> The ChinaShopping elist can educate on your precious China purchases: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaShopping
>
> The CarryOnOnly elist can help you pack lighter: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarryOnOnly
>
>
> **********
>
> Hope that helps!
> Have a fabulous adoption journey!
> Teresa in TX
>

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#21435 From: ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 8:23 am
Subject: File - Links 		ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com
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Dear Friends

Have you dug into the "Links" lately?


***********

What are Links ?  (or Files or Messages)?

Information stored for you.  Index format.  Very organized.

*************

Where are the Links and Files?

First go to our website:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaTravel

(Note:  Every single Yahoo elist has a website, in similar format, with the
group name at the end)

Look on the Left side of the screen:

for websites click on "Links"
for pictures and Files click on "Files"
for group discussion click on "Messages"


***********

Who can use?
Everyone.  No need to join the list to use the information.  .


************

What can you find there?
Information stored logically.  Major topics are listed below:



Links - Major Topics


1 - Upon Referral Checklist!:  Use this checklist at Referral; Find out about
baby, province, etc!  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!

2- Travel Checklist!:  Checklist right before Travel; Did you get it all done?
Ready?  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!

3- Home at Last Checklist:  Bookmarks to help after you're home; medical, SS
card, passport, etc.  Organized to take you directly to the correct link!

Adoption Agency Travel:  How each agency handles travel

AirLines - AirFares - AirPorts: every airline, airport info, search engines,
flight trackers, etc

Books:  On China travel, Book search engines

Cameras - Film - Pictures - Video:  Wisdom on specs, tips, gadgets to record the
moment

Chinese Info & News:  Culture, Holidays, History, China Today, & Newspapers

Communicating:  with China - Phone, Email, Language, Translations

Conversions:  Time, Money, Height, Weight, Temp, etc

Electricity & Converters

Food & Water

Gifts for Officials & Orphanage Workers

Government Info:  U.S. & China - Embassies, STate Dept., Customs

Home at Last!:  Preparing for Reality

Hotels:  U.S. & China

Kids & Family Travel:  Traveling Tips, Heritage Trip, Take or Leave, Baby
Essentials for Home

Laundry:  prices, places, tips

Maps:  China

Medical:  Before, During, After the trip

Money:  ATM's, Converting, Traveler's Cheques, etc

Orphanage:  Info & Packages

Packing & Luggage:  also see "CarryOnOnly" elist: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarryOnOnly

Paperwork:  Adoption

Pictures of China!:  See other's albums before you go, red couch pics, etc.

Safety & Baby Gear:  Carseats, Travel tips, Baby B'Airs, etc

Shopping:  See "ChinaShopping" elist: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaShopping

Sightseeing - Tours - Cities:  compiled source of online travel info

Transportation - (Not Flight):  Buses, Trains, Hydrofoils, Rickshaws

Travel Agents:  China Specialists

Travel Insurance:  sources and info

Travel Journals & Itineraries:  Journals, Itineraries, & Living in China

Travel Tips:  Not otherwise categorized

Visas - Passports - POA:  Couriers, Consulates, Instructions, & Forms

Weather:  know before you go

WebCams:  Ultra Cool


*************

Trails:  How to locate certain Links:

If you wanted info about books on Hong Kong, you might be informed of a trail
like this:

Links > Books > Hong Kong

which means that you would go to the website, click on "Links" button, then on
"Books" folder, then on "Hong Kong" folder


************

Notes:

"Links" were previously called "Bookmarks,"  a term still often used.

Anyone may add Links.  You are encouraged to contribute if you like

The ChinaShopping elist can educate on your precious China purchases: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChinaShopping

The CarryOnOnly elist can help you pack lighter: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarryOnOnly


**********

Hope that helps!
Have a fabulous adoption journey!
Teresa in TX

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#21434 From: "Cindee" <cynthia.goldstein@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Flying out of NY 		kenya002
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Jennifer,
Do you have an email address for David. I'm having some trouble with a couple of
other agencies and I want to check around. I'm in Ft Lauderdale but I'm guessing
that does not matter.

Thanks!
Cindee

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>
> Hi Shelley,
>  We used David Tam to book our flights out of NYC in 2007. We considered all
the direct flights, but ended up using Continental out of Newark even though we
live on LI and it would have been easier to go out of JFK. Mr Tam is a China
specialist - located in Chinatown. He steered us away from Air China because of
their delay record. He also got us flights cheaper than I could find online.
Continental flies to Beijing (13.5 hours) and HK (15.5 hours) . We took the
train to HK after our Consulate appt and stayed overnight, leaving the next am.
You also have the option to fly back to Beijing.
> Tam Travel
> 98 Mott St
> New York, NY 10013-4681
> (212) 406-9669
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#21433 From: "techiemeka" <bdb@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: Air China 		techiemeka
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China Air or Air China?  Two different airlines.

China Air is out of Taiwan and has a really bad reputation ... Air China is PRC
and does domestic flights as well as international.

I'm thinking you meant Air China ... yes?

Bernice


--- In ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <smboothe@...> wrote:
>
>We flew China Air within China (HK to Beijing, Beijing to Guangzhou, Guangzhou
to HK) and it was also quite nice - not so fancy, but on time, courteous, etc).

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#21432 From: Kirby Bartlett-Sloan <wukong@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:12 am
Subject: China Related TV for the Week of 10/26/09 		da_sheng
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The China Related TV listings for this week have been posted to

http://www.chinasprout.com/tv

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For anyone not familiar with this web page -
"The China Related TV list is compiled weekly by Kirby Bartlett-Sloan.
Kirby, an adoptive parent of three Chinese girls, has one of the most
comprehensive TV listings of programs on China and from China that are in
the English language. The listing includes feature Chinese films,
documentaries, and entertainment programs shown on major US networks."

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Kirby Bartlett-Sloan
Dad to Louisa b 3/94, Jiujiang, Jiangxi province, a. 6/94 Nanchang, Jiangxi
province,
Julia b 5/95 Jiangyin, Jiangsu province, a. 1/96 Nanjing, Jiangsu province,
Mary b 9/97 Nanning, Guangxi province, a. 7/99 Nanning, Guangxi province,
See our Travel Tips for Those Adopting from China web page at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/triplist.html
The China Adoption Turbo Button
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/turbo.html
Louisa Bartlett-Sloan's (when she was age 7) Tribute to Ladybugs
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ladybug.html
Home page http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/
blog http://brothermonkey.blogspot.com
I compile the China Related TV listing every week
http://www.chinasprout.com/tv/

Fun pages about Chinese Tourist Attractions
The Cave of Wonders in Nanning
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/catacomb.htm The Journey to the West in
Guangzhou
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/Journey.htm
Our October 2000 Walt Disney World trip and CCAI reunion is at
http://www.bartlett-sloan.net/ccaidisneyy2ka.html

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#21431 From: "Susan" <smboothe@...>
Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: Air China 		susan_boothe
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Bernice,

Dismal is an excellent description.  The last flight we took was to have been a
quick one from Atlanta to Roanoke.  It was such a hassle (granted TSA
contributed to that significantly) that we just rented a car and drove back
home. Our criteria for flying expanded from 4 hours away to at least 6 and
perhaps 8 hours drive time before we consider flying again.

We flew Malasian Air to China - and it was the most wonderful airline experience
ever. Courteous ground and air crew, on time flights,tasty meals (yes, really)
all you would have expected in the US before deregulation!  We flew China Air
within China (HK to Beijing, Beijing to Guangzhou, Guangzhou to HK) and it was
also quite nice - not so fancy, but on time, courteous, etc).  Our only negative
was once we hit LA back in the states and encountered a domestic airline once
again.....sigh.  Welcome home....

Susan



--- In ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com, "techiemeka" <bdb@...> wrote:
>
> Good point ... but ... and this is what stopped us from flying Air China:
>
> Brother-in-law said that many of his pilot friends did contract work for Air
China ... that few stayed long because they felt the training received by
Chinese pilots was inadequate.  But this was just the opinion of one pilot and
because we had other options to fly home, we followed his advice.
>
> That said, given the way people drive on roads here (China), I think being on
a plane is likely safer ;)
>
> Also within China, there are no options but to fly a Chinese airline (and
while I've never flown an American airline, if Chinese airline service is
better, it must be pretty dismal in the US  ;)
>
> Bernice
>
> --- In ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com, Tim Kutch <trkgator@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shelley,
> > 
> > I fly to China a couple of times a year and have used most of the Chinese
airlines without incidents. I will fly a Korean/Chinese/Malaysian airlines
before I will fly a US airline simply for the fact they are much more
accomodating and there service is far superior. I will tell you that my dad and
one brother both worked for FAA and if you knew many of the close calls that All
airlines have you probably would think twice before riding any of them.
> > 
> > S
>

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#21430 From: "techiemeka" <bdb@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:23 am
Subject: Re: Air China 		techiemeka
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Good point ... but ... and this is what stopped us from flying Air China:

Brother-in-law said that many of his pilot friends did contract work for Air
China ... that few stayed long because they felt the training received by
Chinese pilots was inadequate.  But this was just the opinion of one pilot and
because we had other options to fly home, we followed his advice.

That said, given the way people drive on roads here (China), I think being on a
plane is likely safer ;)

Also within China, there are no options but to fly a Chinese airline (and while
I've never flown an American airline, if Chinese airline service is better, it
must be pretty dismal in the US  ;)

Bernice

--- In ChinaTravel@yahoogroups.com, Tim Kutch <trkgator@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Shelley,
> 
> I fly to China a couple of times a year and have used most of the Chinese
airlines without incidents. I will fly a Korean/Chinese/Malaysian airlines
before I will fly a US airline simply for the fact they are much more
accomodating and there service is far superior. I will tell you that my dad and
one brother both worked for FAA and if you knew many of the close calls that All
airlines have you probably would think twice before riding any of them.
> 
> S

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