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If we need private land-owner permission to clean up the site, did the cache
placer get permission originally to place the cache there? If so, does anyone
know who the landowner is or how to get in touch with them?

Did all the whoevers who tossed their crap there get permission first? I CITO
every cache I am on and have yet to be confronted about removing litter and
waste carelessly tossed there by someone else. Yeh, I know one man's trash is
another man's treasure, but we're talkin' real disgusting treasure here that
seems to be attracting more of the same.

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...>
wrote:
>
> When I found that cache I was a bit concerned that it was on privately owned
property.  You may want to check on that before organizing an event to clean it
up.

#40974

From: "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...>
Date: Sat Dec 1, 2012 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Anybody up for a little CITO Event?

semperquestio

Red herrings.

Permission should always be obtained before placing a cache on private property.
Since placing a cache involves indicating compliance with the guidelines, said
permission is implied.  As for the trash, how it got there is beside the point.
Heck, the landowner may use it as a dump for all we know.

I merely suggested that if you are considering hosting an event there, then you
should consider the land ownership as any cache placer should.  Just because a
landowner is OK with a cache there does not mean they would be OK with a bunch
of folks there for an event, regardless of the good intentions.

And this reminds me why I disappeared off the boards for a while.

Back to the shadows.

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "origami cacher" <aprennace@...>
wrote:
>
> If we need private land-owner permission to clean up the site, did the cache
placer get permission originally to place the cache there? If so, does anyone
know who the landowner is or how to get in touch with them?
>
> Did all the whoevers who tossed their crap there get permission first? I CITO
every cache I am on and have yet to be confronted about removing litter and
waste carelessly tossed there by someone else. Yeh, I know one man's trash is
another man's treasure, but we're talkin' real disgusting treasure here that
seems to be attracting more of the same.
>
> --- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "semperquestio" <sqcaching@>
wrote:
> >
> > When I found that cache I was a bit concerned that it was on privately owned
property.  You may want to check on that before organizing an event to clean it
up.
>

#40975

From: "origami cacher" <aprennace@...>
Date: Sat Dec 1, 2012 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Anybody up for a little CITO Event?

origamicacher

semperquestio
I am sorry if I offended you in any way. Sometimes my sarcasm bites more than I
intend it to. I see your point and I will make an attempt to find out who owns
this lot and whether they have any objections to our cleaning it up a little
with an event. Thanks for your couragious feedback despite my insensitivity.
Art


--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...>
wrote:
>
> Red herrings.
>
> Permission should always be obtained before placing a cache on private
property.  Since placing a cache involves indicating compliance with the
guidelines, said permission is implied.  As for the trash, how it got there is
beside the point. Heck, the landowner may use it as a dump for all we know.
>
> I merely suggested that if you are considering hosting an event there, then
you should consider the land ownership as any cache placer should.  Just because
a landowner is OK with a cache there does not mean they would be OK with a bunch
of folks there for an event, regardless of the good intentions.
>
> And this reminds me why I disappeared off the boards for a while.
>
> Back to the shadows.
>
>

#40976

From: "gumbietygress@..." <gumbietygress@...>
Date: Sat Dec 1, 2012 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Anybody up for a little CITO Event?

barbtygress

For what it's worth... that was a trashy site when Russ & I found it many, many years ago.

Sounds like nothing's changed.

To echo, a little, what Howard said: the owner may not know about the cache -- people tend to assume anything without a fence is public property and free for caches. [Ain't so, but we get away with it -- and wonder why muggles get grumpy.] Owner would definitely notice an event, however. I'd be hostile if folks just showed up on my property... it's not the good intentions, it's the liability. And, well, what's mine is mine, even if it does collect detritus.

-B/Tygress

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "origami cacher" <aprennace@...>
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Re: Anybody up for a little CITO Event?
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:14:20 -0000

If we need private land-owner permission to clean up the site, did the cache placer get permission originally to place the cache there? If so, does anyone know who the landowner is or how to get in touch with them?

Did all the whoevers who tossed their crap there get permission first? I CITO every cache I am on and have yet to be confronted about removing litter and waste carelessly tossed there by someone else. Yeh, I know one man's trash is another man's treasure, but we're talkin' real disgusting treasure here that seems to be attracting more of the same.

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...> wrote:
>
> When I found that cache I was a bit concerned that it was on privately owned property. You may want to check on that before organizing an event to clean it up.

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#40977

From: "bigguy9211116" <bigguy9211116@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2012 1:17 am
Subject: Bag5sfan

bigguy9211116

Wanted to add a shoutout to Bagsfan5 for reaching #1300 today at "To Deb, With
Love!" GC3BT6V

CONGRATS! When is the celebration?

Esther/BGTx

#40978

From: J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2012 1:20 am
Subject: Re: Bag5sfan

AWESOME! �Congratulations,

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:17 PM, bigguy9211116 <bigguy9211116@...> wrote:

�

Wanted to add a shoutout to Bagsfan5 for reaching #1300 today at "To Deb, With Love!" GC3BT6V

CONGRATS! When is the celebration?

Esther/BGTx

#40979

From: Bill Ellis <zionzr2@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2012 1:22 am
Subject: Re: Bag5sfan

zionzr2

Nice work!!!� Congrats!!!

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:17 PM, bigguy9211116 <bigguy9211116@...> wrote:

�

Wanted to add a shoutout to Bagsfan5 for reaching #1300 today at "To Deb, With Love!" GC3BT6V

CONGRATS! When is the celebration?

Esther/BGTx

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#40980

From: "gumbietygress@..." <gumbietygress@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2012 1:52 am
Subject: Re: Bag5sfan

barbtygress

woo hoo! Rock and roll! No, wait, that's LOG & reRoll!

BarbJ/Tygress

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "bigguy9211116" <bigguy9211116@...>
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Bag5sfan
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:17:51 -0000

Wanted to add a shoutout to Bagsfan5 for reaching #1300 today at "To Deb, With Love!" GC3BT6V

CONGRATS! When is the celebration?

Esther/BGTx

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#40981

From: Russ Jernigan <waterweasel@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2012 1:55 am
Subject: Fw: Cache Report Submitted: GC429E1

russwaterweasel

Muggle Relations VI submitted for 6 PM December 22. Hope that you all can make
it!

Russ AKA the Waterweasel


-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Geocaching <noreply@...>
>Sent: Dec 1, 2012 7:53 PM
>To: waterweasel@...
>Subject: Cache Report Submitted: GC429E1
>
>Thank you for submitting a new cache. We have received the following:
>
>GC429E1, Hey!  We're still Here! (aka Muggle Relations VI)
>http://coord.info/GC429E1
>
>It is peak season for cache placement. Your volunteer reviewer will strive to
begin the review process within the next 7 days. Unpublished caches cannot be
viewed by the general public. If you wish to view or edit your cache listing in
the meantime, please login and use the URL above.

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#40982

From: greg <greggo78613@...>
Date: Sat Dec 1, 2012 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: Anybody up for a little CITO Event?

greggo78613

I'll put my 2 cents worth in. It appears on google maps the path to the cache from the cross street to Mays is the ROW for the contiuation of the street that was never built, it connects to the ROW on Mays. There is private property on either side of the 50 foot ROW. It appears the cache is about 25 into the private property on one side. You could probably find out from the city of Round Rock if that actually is a ROW, and wether they would mind if we cleaned it up. Just my observation.

Greg Shumaker

shumaker

--- On Fri, 11/30/12, John Baker <thenkengrene@...> wrote:

From: John Baker <thenkengrene@...>
Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Anybody up for a little CITO Event?
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 30, 2012, 4:51 PM

We don't have enough cito events. Sure!

John/thenkengrene

On Nov 30, 2012 4:44 PM, "origami cacher" <aprennace@...> wrote:

Just recently, I got all jazzed again about one of my favorite hobbies -that being Geocaching. In my new enthusiasm, I began with where I left off with some unsolved puzzles and tackled "Hugo the Magnificent" I solved the puzzle and found the cache, but was disgusted by all of the trash that has accumulated there. Anybody out there besides me who would like to give Hugo a Helping Hand? If there is any interest here on the forum, I will post a CITO Saturday event even though I know December is,for most people,a busy time I would like to give a little back to Mother Earth to help celebrate the season. We could always sing Christmas carols while we work...

#40983

From: GrnBeret2B <grn.beret.2b@...>
Date: Mon Dec 3, 2012 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: Anybody up for a little CITO Event?

grnberet2b

Can I also point out - by holding a CITO at, or near, GZ, you are revealing the final location of a puzzle cache, which I'm sure wouldn't please Prime.

I'm going to say no, this CITO isn't a good idea because:

There's question as to legality of the placement of the cache itself (I don't have the final coords, my hastily done solution doesn't feel right, and I don't really have the time to put into a proper solution, so I'm not going to even try to make a definitive statement either way)

Those who have the coords could check out the Williamson County GIS map if they so desire (https://gis.wilco.org/countymap/). �I have used GIS maps to identify Private/Public properties in the past, but it's been a while since I used Williamson County's, so I don't have helpful pointers as to how to use it.

I personally don't agree with having an event that reveals, or even hints at, the final location of a puzzle cache.

Nathaniel/Grn Beret 2B

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:19 PM, greg <greggo78613@...> wrote:

�

I'll put my 2 cents worth in. � It appears on google maps the path to the cache from the cross street to Mays is the ROW for the contiuation of the street that was never built, it connects to the ROW on Mays.� There is private property on either side of the 50 foot ROW.� It appears the cache is about 25 into the private property on one side. You could probably find out from the city of Round Rock if that actually is a ROW, and wether they would mind if we cleaned it up. Just my observation.

�

Greg Shumaker

shumaker

--- On Fri, 11/30/12, John Baker <thenkengrene@...> wrote:

From: John Baker <thenkengrene@...>
Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Anybody up for a little CITO Event?
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 30, 2012, 4:51 PM

�

We don't have enough cito events. Sure!

John/thenkengrene

On Nov 30, 2012 4:44 PM, "origami cacher" <aprennace@...> wrote:

�

Just recently, I got all jazzed again about one of my favorite hobbies -that being Geocaching. In my new enthusiasm, I began with where I left off with some unsolved puzzles and tackled "Hugo the Magnificent" I solved the puzzle and found the cache, but was disgusted by all of the trash that has accumulated there. Anybody out there besides me who would like to give Hugo a Helping Hand? If there is any interest here on the forum, I will post a CITO Saturday event even though I know December is,for most people,a busy time I would like to give a little back to Mother Earth to help celebrate the season. We could always sing Christmas carols while we work...

#40984

From: "BAGSFAN5" <bagsfan5@...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: Bag5sfan

BAGSFAN5

Thank you all for the support. Central Texas has some amazing cachers.

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "bigguy9211116"
<bigguy9211116@...> wrote:
>
> Wanted to add a shoutout to Bagsfan5 for reaching #1300 today at "To Deb, With
Love!" GC3BT6V
>
> CONGRATS! When is the celebration?
>
> Esther/BGTx
>

#40985

From: "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:07 am
Subject: End of Challenges

semperquestio

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough
to pass this along from Groundspeak...


Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced
with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is
through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of
Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain
ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves
and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the
resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must
become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new
Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile
application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of
the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes
tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow
ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of
Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create
better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40986

From: J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:47 am
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

�

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40987

From: Shawn Olsen <shawnolsen@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:50 am
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

s6sputnik

I'll second MCP on that!

Shawn/s6spugnik

On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:47 PM, J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...> wrote:

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Julie
Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40988

From: Joanne Comer <jamico28@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:58 am
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

jamico28

Hear, hear!

From: J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...>
To: Central Texas Geocachers <CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] End of Challenges

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40989

From: J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 6:03 am
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

Seems like to me that if they can recognize their mistake about Challenges, they can do the same thing and recognize their mistake of eliminating virtuals. �There's an awful lot of evidence out there that people really loved them. �Yes, some people DIDN'T like them, but then some people don't like micros, or lamp skirt caches, or puzzles, or WHATEVER. �Give people options and let them choose their own adventures.

Oh......don't get me started! �:)

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Joanne Comer <jamico28@...> wrote:

�

Hear, hear!

From: J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...>
To: Central Texas Geocachers <CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] End of Challenges

�

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Julie
Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

�

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40990

From: Cheryl <cheryl007@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:24 am
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

teamtracker007

We loved virtual caches especially when visiting someplace new. They are a great way to learn about a new city or state.

Cheryl

1/6th of Team Tracker

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:47 PM, J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...> wrote:

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Julie
Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40991

From: Dylan Mahan <dpyckle@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

dpyckle1972

I did 2 virtuals this past weekend. Love em. I want the category reinstated! Thank you MCP! Pyckle

On Dec 5, 2012 5:32 AM, "Cheryl" <cheryl007@...> wrote:

�

We loved virtual caches especially when visiting someplace new. They are a great way to learn about a new city or state.
Cheryl
1/6th of Team Tracker

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:47 PM, J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...> wrote:

�

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Julie
Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

�

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40992

From: Jay Bingham <binghamjc@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:33 pm
Subject: RE: End of Challenges

binggtx

I add yet another second to the motion to bring back virtual caches. I enjoy them for the most part and finding them has taken me to some very interesting places and shown me things I would not have noticed otherwise, like this one that I recently found with one of my sons in Virginia: The Lost Day. This is a good example of a virtual that is done well. To claim it you have to notice something that you would probably just overlook under usual circumstances. This cache could not be done in any other way even if it were not located in a national park.

Another that I enjoyed, located at another national park, is To Bind Up the Nation's Wounds, while not as strong of an argument for virtuals as The Lost Day since it has no logging requirements and the coordinates seem to be a little off, it none the less takes you to a very interesting place, which I might have overlooked had it not been for the cache.

This virtual, 1886 Turbine, is one of my favorite virtuals because I almost certainly would not have stopped here if the cache had not been here, but I am glad I did. It requires strong investigative skills to determine the answer to one of the logging requirements. Most people will never find out that bit of information unless they are geocachers. Another well done virtual that would be less interesting as any other type of cache.

While most virtuals are on the low end of the difficulty/terrain spectrum I enjoy finding them because I usually find something that is interesting and worth seeing. However, I understand why some people don’t like them, emailing the answers to the owner can be a pain at times and some of them can be quite lame, fortunately most of the lame ones are now gone. Unfortunately some of the not so lame ones are disappearing too because the owners loose interest and Groundspeak won’t allow them to be adopted or because the owners get fed up with the inability of geocachers to follow instructions as happened recently with two caches on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon see: Cape Royal and Bright Angel Point. These two caches had 15 and 62 favorite points respectively, so they weren’t lame.

Well, I have ranted on too long so I will stop now.

Let me close by saying that I hope that Groundspeak comes to their senses and implements virtuals in a format that integrates well with other caches and retains the best characteristics of what the original virtuals were while eliminating the characteristics that caused them to be banned. Maybe the third time will be a charm. They have tried unsuccessfully twice already.

--| Jay /\ Bing-GTX
|+| Georgetown, TX USA
|-- “What you see depends mainly on what you are looking for.”

From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dylan Mahan
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:13 AM
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] End of Challenges

I did 2 virtuals this past weekend. Love em. I want the category reinstated! Thank you MCP! Pyckle

On Dec 5, 2012 5:32 AM, "Cheryl" <cheryl007@...> wrote:

We loved virtual caches especially when visiting someplace new. They are a great way to learn about a new city or state.

Cheryl

1/6th of Team Tracker

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:47 PM, J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...> wrote:

Here's a great idea for them...........

BRING BACK VIRTUALS!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM, semperquestio <sqcaching@...> wrote:

For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough to pass this along from Groundspeak...

Dear Geocacher,

In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of Geocaching.

Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must become casualties.

In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.

This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.

On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create better tools to guide you on your next adventure.

Sincerely,
Geocaching.com

#40993

From: "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:27 pm
Subject: Re: End of Challenges

semperquestio

OK.  Back out of the shadows again cuz I would really like to see virts back too
and we need to build support for the idea...

If you want your voice to even have a chance of being heard in regards to
virtuals, you need to sound off over on the Groundspeak forums.  There are a few
robust conversations going on over there about them now.  It may not do a lick
of good, but I'm pretty sure no one from Groundspeak is going to be paying
attention to this forum.

Here's some links to a few thread over there...

http://tinyurl.com/at8tno2
http://tinyurl.com/bbdfcp6
http://tinyurl.com/b4exr7u


--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "semperquestio" <sqcaching@...>
wrote:
>
> For those that missed it, I thought I step back out of the shadows long enough
to pass this along from Groundspeak...
>
>
> Dear Geocacher,
>
> In our effort to inspire outdoor play through Geocaching, we are often faced
with decisions about what to focus on next, and what to focus on less. It is
through these decisions that we explore opportunities to grow the global game of
Geocaching.
>
> Occasionally, during this process, we are faced with the reality that certain
ideas don't catch on as we had hoped. In these situations we owe it to ourselves
and to you to make tough decisions about the future of every project and the
resources to be applied to each. Sometimes, as a result, cool features must
become casualties.
>
> In this spirit, we have decided to retire Geocaching Challenges.
>
> This means that, effective today, we have disabled the ability to create new
Challenges. We have also removed the Challenges application from all mobile
application stores. In approximately 7 days, we will be removing all traces of
the Challenges functionality and related content from Geocaching.com.
>
> On an office wall here at HQ is a sign that reads, "Let's make better mistakes
tomorrow." By accepting that we will sometimes get it wrong, we can allow
ourselves to learn from and imagine new opportunities in the world of
Geocaching. Our hope is we can take the lessons from Challenges and create
better tools to guide you on your next adventure.
>
> Sincerely,
> Geocaching.com
>

#40994

From: "rrohlf_2000" <RRJunk@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2012 2:18 am
Subject: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

rrohlf_2000

Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.

Rick
RickandWyatt

Oh boy...  Where to start?

I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in
my pocket and use the other one for a while.  Due to scattered signals, I was
searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the
same distance to either side.

At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I
eventually found the cache.  I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for
my Oregon and... it wasn't there.  I was looking at an area of about 1250 square
feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other
decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.

I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily
constitutional.  He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up,
said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." 
They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to
realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to
them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)

They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave
up.  I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and
returned to the cache.  I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the
place with no luck.  I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back
to the cache area, and started again.

Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at
it until the gas ran out again.  With just a little gas remaining, I finally
decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself.  Blowing six to
eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by
the path.  I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank
got emptier by the second.  About three feet past the cache, as the final layer
of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something.  Looking closer, I saw it
was the Oregon.

Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the
ground while I signed the log?  I don't think so; I don't think it would be that
hard to see from three feet.  And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing
it, either.

Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back.  I think I'm going to
mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it
Hunter's Orange.  Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...

Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.

SL, TFTC.

Rick
RickandWyatt

#40995

From: Bill Ellis <zionzr2@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2012 2:26 am
Subject: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

zionzr2

WOW!� Now Thats a Story!!!� Glad you finally found the GPSr.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:18 PM, rrohlf_2000 <RRJunk@...> wrote:

�

Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.

Rick
RickandWyatt

Oh boy... Where to start?

I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.

At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.

I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)

They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.

Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.

Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.

Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...

Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.

SL, TFTC.

Rick
RickandWyatt

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#40996

From: "gumbietygress@..." <gumbietygress@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2012 6:29 am
Subject: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

barbtygress

I have a long lanyard on mine so I can hang it around my neck.

It's also bright blue (the lanyard)

Glad you found it.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "rrohlf_2000" <RRJunk@...>
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:18:36 -0000

Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.

Rick
RickandWyatt

Oh boy... Where to start?

I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.

At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.

I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)

They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.

Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.

Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.

Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...

Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.

SL, TFTC.

Rick
RickandWyatt

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#40997

From: "gumbietygress@..." <gumbietygress@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2012 6:30 am
Subject: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

barbtygress

Oh yeah... I left my phone at a cache once. We drove back a (mumble) number of minutes later, and it was, lucklly, right where I'd left it.

I feel your pain, Rick!

BarbJ = absent minded =Tygress

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Ellis <zionzr2@...>
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:26:08 -0600

WOW!� Now Thats a Story!!!� Glad you finally found the GPSr.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:18 PM, rrohlf_2000 <RRJunk@...> wrote:

�
Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.

Rick
RickandWyatt

Oh boy... Where to start?

I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.

At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.

I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)

They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.

Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.

Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.

Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...

Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.

SL, TFTC.

Rick
RickandWyatt

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#40998

From: Jay Bingham <binghamjc@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2012 5:20 pm
Subject: RE: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

binggtx

Rick,

Wow. I am so glad that you found your GPSr.

I have never come any where close to that, probably the closest I have come is dropping my phone stylus twice. Both times it was in a parking lot after dark, once in Cedar Park at the event center and once in Georgetown in the parking lot to the old Luby’s. Thankfully I found it both times, in Cedar Park I realized I dropped it before I left the lot and found it quickly. In Georgetown I got all the way home before I realized that I lost it. Luckily I live in Georgetown and so it was not a long trip back to get it. If the feeling that I had then were magnified several hundred times I imagine that I would know how you felt. Not a fun thing at all.

--| Jay /\ Bing-GTX
|+| Georgetown, TX USA
|-- “What you see depends mainly on what you are looking for.”

From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rrohlf_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:19 PM
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.

Rick
RickandWyatt

Oh boy... Where to start?

I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.

At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.

I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)

They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.

Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.

Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.

Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...

Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.

SL, TFTC.

Rick
RickandWyatt

#40999

From: J Crozier <mrscaptainpicard@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2012 4:06 am
Subject: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

Oh gosh, I thought you were going to say you didn't find it, or you stepped on it and broke it under the leaves or something a LOT more expensive! �You got off EASY! �I know the bottom of the San Marcos River holds more than one GPS and what about the ones people left on the hood of their car until it fell off and got run over. �Then there was the one that got caught in the seat sliding mechanism in their car and had the glass broken. �Those aren't MY personal stories, but I know they all happened.

In MY case, I was traveling to California on business for a week. �Right at the last minute, I checked to make sure my GPS was packed and lo and behold, it wasn't. �I RACED all around the house searching for it. � Finally, I had to leave for the airport, going GPS-less. �OH NO!

Did I just not get to geocache?????? NO! �I walked into Fry's to buy a new unit, thinking I'd take it back. �The only choice they had (and I confess I'm a GPS snob) was the new (at the time) 60CSx at FULL PRICE (I'd pretty much rather die than pay full price). �Well, I walked out with a new CSx assuming I'd find my other one and could return this one when I got home. �

BUT, how was I going to cache without maps? �I had to load a mapset that set me back some dough. �And once I invested in maps, I was pretty much into this little unit that was proving to be a sweet upgrade to my 60CS that was lost. �Can you believe I actually FOUND that GPS in the side pocket of my backseat on the LAST day of my return for a full refund window??????? �

$500 and a mapset later, I had a beautiful new GPS I didn't need but couldn't bear to take back. �THAT was my expensive mistake.

Cheers,

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

Count your blessings and give your GPS a little kiss.

Cheers,

Julie

Mrs. Captain Picard

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:18 PM, rrohlf_2000 <RRJunk@...> wrote:

�

Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.

Rick
RickandWyatt

Oh boy... Where to start?

I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.

At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.

I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)

They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.

Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.

Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.

Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...

Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.

SL, TFTC.

Rick
RickandWyatt

#41000

From: "lorierhea@..." <lorieray@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2012 4:49 am
Subject: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

lorierhea...

Hi Guys. I'm old but a newbie at Geocaching. Started last Sunday. I only wish I had known about this years ago with all the traveling I've done, but better late than never. I was over next to this cache 'Stream' today finding 'Take Another Letter Maria!!" when I was sitting on a log and looking at all the neat 'toys' in the cache box when I noticed the ground covered in thick leaves when it dawned on me, "What did I do with my phone?" I realized I would be in more than just 'deep leaves' if I put it down some place as I was several feet from where I found the cache! This was only my 7th find and with this good scare I very fortunately found it in my back pocket, I've decided to put together a cache survival kit so all my stuff will hopefully remain together!!!. At least this is Plan A.

Thanks so much for reinforcing how easy it would be to have this great new basically free hobby cost me my phone. Couldn't call to get it replaced first off!! Wow, that's something to think about. I've always wondered how the 'Find My Phone" app worked on the phone you lost! Now I need to come up with plan B just in case plan A blows up! If anyone has already experienced this unfortunate predicament, please let me know what you did. I'd rather not re-invent the wheel. ;))

LorieRay

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "rrohlf_2000" <RRJunk@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.
>
> Rick
> RickandWyatt
>
> Oh boy... Where to start?
>
> I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.
>
> At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.
>
> I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)
>
> They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.
>
> Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.
>
> Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.
>
> Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...
>
> Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.
>
> SL, TFTC.
>
> Rick
> RickandWyatt
>

#41001

From: Russ Jernigan <waterweasel@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2012 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

russwaterweasel

Hi!

Welcome to Geocaching! I hope that you have as much fun in the sport as I have over the years.

Russ aka Waterweasel

-----Original Message-----
From: "lorierhea@..."
Sent: Dec 6, 2012 10:49 PM
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

Hi Guys. I'm old but a newbie at Geocaching. Started last Sunday. I only wish I had known about this years ago with all the traveling I've done, but better late than never. I was over next to this cache 'Stream' today finding 'Take Another Letter Maria!!" when I was sitting on a log and looking at all the neat 'toys' in the cache box when I noticed the ground covered in thick leaves when it dawned on me, "What did I do with my phone?" I realized I would be in more than just 'deep leaves' if I put it down some place as I was several feet from where I found the cache! This was only my 7th find and with this good scare I very fortunately found it in my back pocket, I've decided to put together a cache survival kit so all my stuff will hopefully remain together!!!. At least this is Plan A.

Thanks so much for reinforcing how easy it would be to have this great new basically free hobby cost me my phone. Couldn't call to get it replaced first off!! Wow, that's something to think about. I've always wondered how the 'Find My Phone" app worked on the phone you lost! Now I need to come up with plan B just in case plan A blows up! If anyone has already experienced this unfortunate predicament, please let me know what you did. I'd rather not re-invent the wheel. ;))

LorieRay

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "rrohlf_2000" <RRJunk@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.
>
> Rick
> RickandWyatt
>
> Oh boy... Where to start?
>
> I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.
>
> At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.
>
> I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)
>
> They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.
>
> Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.
>
> Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.
>
> Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...
>
> Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.
>
> SL, TFTC.
>
> Rick
> RickandWyatt
>

#41002

From: Greg Jewett <geojewett@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2012 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

jewettg

http://geocaching.ejewett.com/

Sounds like we are on a story telling adventure, so I will add my own GPS mishap. Ugh! Some remember my plight from emails I sent out about knowledge of GPSr repair.

My family and I were going of the US on a Disney cruise, so I know I needed my GPSr if I was going to find the caches on the Disney private island and other ports of call. I also love to use the device to see where in the huge sea were were located, because it is kinda hard to tell when you are -- looking over starboard, port, stern and bow of the ship and all you can see if water. One morning, my kids asked where we were - so I pull out the GPSr and powered it up. It was a very cloudy day and the ship was full of metal -- causing all kinds of interference picking up a signal. So I wrap the lanyard around a chair and left it on the "patio" of the room with lots of sky. Finished getting ready and ready to walk out the door to breakfast - looking again -- still very little signal and no location lock. So grabbed the GPSr, shoved it in my pocket and went to breakfast. With our bellys' full, I went to grab my GPSr from my pocket to take it out to the deck and see if I could get a lock. When I pulled it out -- the screen was shattered. My heart sank. I could not figure out what happened, it was safely in my pocket. I must of run into something and it was just enough to hit the glass. The rest of the trip we were "blind" to where we were until we arrived at port, or if we asked some crew who sometimes knew, other times just guessed. I was able to find some WIFI on a couple of the islands, found a decent app that would work offline to give me directions to caches. So I was able to keep the shakes at bay and Geocache while out and about on the islands! :)

The good news was that after I took it apart, I realized that the broken glass was just the digitizer screen (the touch screen). The LCD was still in good shape. WOW! The unit had two pieces of glass, LCD screen and digitizer screen that there soldered together at the ribbon cable that connected to the rest of the electronics. This turned out to be to be a blessing and a curse of design when I went to replace it. I found a colleague at work who knew how to micro-solder and I ordered the new screen from a guy on eBay. Received the glass, had my friend do the magic on the cable and then tried to put the unit together and over torqued the screws and *snap*, quickly flipping the unit over to find I cracked the digitizer screen again. I re-assembled it with a single hairline crack in the screen and it was semi-usable. Proceeded to use it a couple of times and each time, the screen made more cracking sounds and then shattered. I ordered another screen and had my friend do his magic again, this time spending over 45 minutes putting it back together, and looking at how I made a mistake. The design of two glass screens was a bad design in respect if you figured out what had to be replaced from the broken one, what had to be kept and how to get the screens to support each other with no air-gap and not even the slightest bow in the digitizer glass. Say the least, I spent about $120, plus tons of crying, patience, and infuriation with myself to almost want a new unit. I tried twice through Podcacher to win one of the two units they were giving away, but did not.

I have a working unit now, but yearn for a more rugged and better unit.

Greg Jewett

Geocacher Handle:  GeoJewett

(512) 627-7290

geojewett (at) geocachingaustin.com

http://www.geocachingaustin.com/

Don't print this e-mail unless it's necessary. Save a tree

On Dec 7, 2012, at 08:15 am, Russ Jernigan wrote:

Hi!

Welcome to Geocaching! I hope that you have as much fun in the sport as I have over the years.

Russ aka Waterweasel

-----Original Message-----
From: "lorierhea@..."
Sent: Dec 6, 2012 10:49 PM
To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Re: Almost the most expensive single cache I ever found

Hi Guys. I'm old but a newbie at Geocaching. Started last Sunday. I only wish I had known about this years ago with all the traveling I've done, but better late than never. I was over next to this cache 'Stream' today finding 'Take Another Letter Maria!!" when I was sitting on a log and looking at all the neat 'toys' in the cache box when I noticed the ground covered in thick leaves when it dawned on me, "What did I do with my phone?" I realized I would be in more than just 'deep leaves' if I put it down some place as I was several feet from where I found the cache! This was only my 7th find and with this good scare I very fortunately found it in my back pocket, I've decided to put together a cache survival kit so all my stuff will hopefully remain together!!!. At least this is Plan A.
Thanks so much for reinforcing how easy it would be to have this great new basically free hobby cost me my phone. Couldn't call to get it replaced first off!! Wow, that's something to think about. I've always wondered how the 'Find My Phone" app worked on the phone you lost! Now I need to come up with plan B just in case plan A blows up! If anyone has already experienced this unfortunate predicament, please let me know what you did. I'd rather not re-invent the wheel. ;))
LorieRay

--- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "rrohlf_2000" <RRJunk@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the log I posted after finding EGSG's "Stream" (GC2T7YM).
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the aspirin.
>
> Rick
> RickandWyatt
>
> Oh boy... Where to start?
>
> I was getting conflicting signals between my GPS and my phone, so I'd put one in my pocket and use the other one for a while. Due to scattered signals, I was searching 25 or 30 feet into the underbrush south of the cache, and about the same distance to either side.
>
> At one point, I put my Oregon 550 in my pocket and used my phone, with which I eventually found the cache. I signed the log, then reached into my pocket for my Oregon and... it wasn't there. I was looking at an area of about 1250 square feet covered, on average, with several inches of fallen leaves and other decaying vegetation that was almost the same color as my GPS.
>
> I searched for about an hour when the cache owners came by on their daily constitutional. He asked if I had found the cache and I, barely looking up, said, "Yeah, I found the cache; now I'm looking for my (epithet deleted) GPSR." They came over to help and I introduced myself as I looked at them, only to realize that it was EGSG, whom I have met several times before (my apologies to them for being so distracted that I didn't recognize you right away.)
>
> They helped me look for another fifteen or twenty minutes until I finally gave up. I went back home, borrowed a neighbor's gas powered leaf blower, and returned to the cache. I used a full tank of gas blowing leaves all over the place with no luck. I walked back to the truck to get the gas can, walked back to the cache area, and started again.
>
> Getting extremely frustrated after about two hours of this, I decided to keep at it until the gas ran out again. With just a little gas remaining, I finally decided to take one more look at the area near the cache itself. Blowing six to eight inches of leaves takes a while, but I slowly made my way along the area by the path. I passed the cache itself, feeling more and more hopeless as the tank got emptier by the second. About three feet past the cache, as the final layer of leaves got blown away, I thought I saw something. Looking closer, I saw it was the Oregon.
>
> Then it hit me: did I find the cache and simply put the Oregon down on the ground while I signed the log? I don't think so; I don't think it would be that hard to see from three feet. And EGSG looked over that area too without seeing it, either.
>
> Whatever the case, I'm just happy to have my Oregon back. I think I'm going to mask off the screen and battery compartment lever and paint the rest of it Hunter's Orange. Maybe attach a bright orange streamer to it while I'm at it...
>
> Here's hoping such a thing never happens to any of you.
>
> SL, TFTC.
>
> Rick
> RickandWyatt
>