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Re: The messenger known or called John

Maybe John is still a child and he's being taught.

ken

--- In CayceCayce@yahoogroups.com, "ah_ohm" <ah_ohm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Justin,
> Please do not take this wrong, but there have been several now claiming to
be or that have said something to eluded to the fact that they had been the
Beloved Disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. I believe he is here.I also believe
that God would tell him in a more obvious fashion, that yes you were the Beloved
Disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ and this even should leave no doubt in your
mind. No doubt since he is here to do something of a really great nature, he
probably went throught it for a long time, because it seems like they who will
the be greater will suffer the more. Only time will tell though, eventually he
will be well known. If not now, definitely when His Master returns because I bet
They hang together. We'll see.
> I'll just keep on, keepin' on...regardless. But I'll do my best to keep
it lighter around here.
>
> Love,
> Ah-Ohm
>
>
> --- In CayceCayce@yahoogroups.com, "JustinW" <freespirit2710@> wrote:
> >
> > An earlier reference was made to this messenger and the fact that he
hasn't seem to shown up yet, and how that bodes ill for anyone who believes that
Cayce might be pat of their Greater self/Soul essence. Well, i'm pretty sure
that Yeshua become aware of certain things before he actually started his
ministry. I can only speak for myself and those that i know involved in this
haven't started any work yet for they know they very much need to work on self
at this point. Yet, like with Yeshua, that doesn't mean that in the now they
can't be aware of some of their future or where they have been.
> >
> > Some big differences there.
> >
> > Anyways, i'm not totally sure this relates, but i have a friend who is
very open to guidance from having been long on a spiritual path, having
meditated a lot, and from trying to be a loving person.
> >
> > More particularly he has had many experiences and guidance messages with
and concerning Christ. For the most part, he doesn't advertise this, and he
definitely hasn't tried to make any money off of any of it.
> >
> > He went from being atheistic to being a very Christ centered person, but
not in a religious way. Part of this change came from powerful experiences he
did not consciously seek.
> >
> > One time during meditation, his guidance asked him, "don't you know who
you are?" and then followed with, "you are John."
> >
> > He didnt' and doesn't know what that message means, or why they even said
it to begin with. He doesn't know who and what John they mean. All in all he
was puzzled and confused by this message, though generally and from repeated
experience he has learned to trust the accuracy of such messages and the
helpfulness of his guidance.
> >
> > The Cayce readings on this John figure seem to indicate that there was a
probability or a possibility that this John figure would be born in or around
1936, but didn't say it would definitely happen and as they give generally
regarding future incarnations the exact timing can be variable.
> >
> > While my friend was not born in 1936, he was born in 1958 which is another
year that was also mentioned and important in this future cycle outlining.
> >
> > I consider it a possibility that my friend may be the John spoken of in
the Cayce readings.
> >
> > For those with astrological knowledge and perception, i find it
interesting that in our chart comparison, both of our Suns are near each others
Mid Heavens and in each others 10th Houses.
> >
> > The Mid Heaven and M.C. represents the area of life wherein we become
aware of our responsibility to and need to serve the larger collective society
we find ourselves in. It represents our "career" in the more long term, service
sense rather than our day to day "job" wherein we pay our bills, etc.
> >
> > In general, it is a very important part of the chart, and oft indicates
what we should be striving to grow towards.
> >
> > It's very "public" oriented, and not surprisingly this House or the M.C.
point is oft very highlighted in the natal charts of those who become well known
by many in their society (a fairly common aspect in the natal charts of famous
people is Moon CON the M.C. and/or in the 10th--a position Cayce had btw).
> >
> > The Sun represents our deeper character and purpose in this life. It
represents where we "shine", or shines on e.g. highlights those areas important
for us in this life. It is also both a spiritual and leader type symbol in the
more mundane sense.
> >
> > My friend and i having the same mutual inter aspect between our Charts
with our Sun's in each others 10th Houses shows that our deeper destiny in that
10th house kind of way is very highlighted and we strongly influence and are
influenced by each other in that way and in those areas.
> >
> > In other words, it is a primary part and purpose of our interaction. To
me this is interesting because at one point we didn't vibe or like each other
much at all. In general our chart comparison is fairly stressed and it's
unusual for two people with such stressed chart comparisons to be friends. In
my own experience, this is one of the few cases wherein i've seen a lot of
mutual respect and regard evolve out of such inharmonious personality mixing (as
indicated by the chart comparison.) Part of it is that we are both more
spiritually attuned and less personality attuned and therefore can get over
inharmonious personality reactions and general differences, but i think part is
because our spiritual roles in this life are entwined and connected to something
much larger and more important than ourselves or our personal interaction.
> >
> > My friend is somewhat aware that part of his life plan is to be a
spiritual messenger, and he is somewhat aware that it is connected to Christ and
his plans, but he doesn't think of himself as in the above, as a reincarnated
John figure, etc.
> >
> > Just for your consideration.
> >
>





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Hi Justin, Please do not take this wrong, but there have been several now claiming to be or that have said something to eluded to the fact that they had been...
ah_ohm
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Oct 19, 2009
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Maybe John is still a child and he's being taught. ken...
ken
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Hi Ah Ohm, I apparently passed this over before. First off i want to make it clear that, it is not i claiming this or that about self, and 2nd my friend also...
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Hi Justin, I was just adding that there have been many now. And yes, I do know alot about the subject. Love, Ah-Ohm...
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Hi Justin Is this the same character who discussed ACIM with you on a forum & you both concluding it was a offshoot from a CIA Mind control Project? Or a...
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Hi Maragaret, I'm not at liberty to discuss the identity of my friend because he specifically asked me to not mention this in relation to him. No, the friend i...
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Hi Justin I agree about letting ACIM go because we have discussed it before, the conclusion being we agree to disagree on it's source, scribes, construction,...
Margaret
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Last i heard, you haven't even read ACIM. Both my friend and i have. Perhaps we are more qualified to speak about its nature and essence? Also, both my...
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One word for you Justin. no hard feelings though.  "Pompous." And we still disagree about ACIM. I think for it's type it's brilliant. ...   Last i heard, you...
Margaret
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Why yes, Margaret, i can be a little pompous at times as well indicated by my Leo ASC. But i'm not sure this was a good example of that. Why, because i asked...
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Margaret wrote, > I have similar opinion to Ah_ohm. I don't think "John" will know Cayce reincarnated as in being a colleague. There is no indication that John...
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Margaret wrote, "A voice saying "You are John," is strange. It makes no real sense. Was your friend aware of the Cayce readings?" Why is that strange, and why...
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Hi Justin this is a very short note:::but I am in France now due to a q belief that I am, willing to check out:::I a, that sure of myself to spend money to...
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I said I believe the messenger & liberator wouldn't be colleagues (as in working friends) nor would they be peers as such in similar generation. This is partly...
Margaret
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I have difficulty finding words. By pompous I was trying to portray a tendency to (your) being a little narcissistic & having rhetoric with traces of...
Margaret
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Perhaps you are right Margaret, and yet notice that i am not using negative, judgemental, fixed labeling of you in my replies to you. The most judgmental...
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If you reread my post you will find I tempered those words & didn't use absolutes. "A tendency, a little," & "traces of." "By pompous I was trying to...
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Frankly i feel bad for having earlier promoted ACIM, and especially so if anyone was influenced by me towards that. However, i also question the helpfulness...
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You didn't tip the balance where I am concerned. I believe ACIM will be embraced more & I've heard it said by another, in periods closer to 500 years time. It...
Margaret
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Margaret wrote, "> Gary Renard. Yes, I have had some frustration with his personal portions in his book/s. But where ACIM is quoted in them the books & quotes...
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It's a little ingenuous for you Justin, to talk about outer belief systems & the non necessity of readings books when you have read books until you're near...
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I think you will find that followers of the better works are not so much kind-hearted (though of course some can be & are too) & easily swayed but are often...
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Margaret, "It's like someone who has succeeded in making a lot of money having a good time & finding it didn't bring him/her the happiness he thought it would...
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Cayce's work appeals to me too firstly because it is both a practical that is "hands on practical" work & a mystical work & gives us a peek into...
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HI Justin, Hi Margaret,   Just dropping in to say I have read your posts and know where you are coming from.  I still appreciate Jess Stearn and Taylor...
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Hi Jan Glad you enjoyed your trip to "gay Paris," and it maybe answered some of your questions about persisting characters in your inner experiences. Does that...
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The closest I got to gay Paris lately is I have been making crepes for breakfast for several weeks to use up lemons on my tree. Just crepes very thin made with...
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HI Margaret,   YOur crepes sound wonderful.  I had a lemon sugar crepe at the Trocadero, and a wonderful ice cream cone from the famous Berthillon family at...
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HI Margaret, My previous post was in reaction to the post I had just read and then I have now come to read this so I better understand what you were...
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What good observations Margaret ! thank you I believe in "test the waters or "how else would we learn" I feel very blessed that many others have given...
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