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#786 From: "vinkler@..." <vinkler@...>
Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:24 am
Subject: Re: Happy holidays CB staff!!
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Wow, what a neat thing to hear from the Famous E. Lee. Roane after
all these years.  And to mention Crazy Horse Rick Brandon in the
same post.  I was a Voyager @ NWNCB in 1975 and had the pleasure of
learning the ropes under the tutelage of Rick Brandon, along with
guidance from Dick ("from the nort' side 'o Oshkosh")Pope and one of
the Grate Brothers (sp?).  I managed to sprain my ankle during
training and was given the option of going back to base camp or
continuing with training.  I opted for the later.  After our group
returned from the trails, you asked me to stay on the remainder of
the year with the option to return the following.  I did continue
and helped close the camp at the end of the year after helping out
in the mess hall and the outpost.  I am sad to say that I never did
return, young love took me away and I have forever regretted it.  I
have been chasing the ghosts of that summer ever since.  Good to
hear a familiar voice (so to speak).  Happy New Year.  I hope to
hear from you again.
Bruce Vinkler




--- In CanoeBase@yahoogroups.com, "E. Lee Roane" <bonnieandlee@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear NWNCB (R7NCB or R7CB) staff member,
>
> Here's wishing you a safe and joyous holiday season and many
blessings
> in the coming new year.
>
> It is at Christmas that I remember my winter experiences with Rick
> Brandon and Bill Baar in 1975 and with my friend Art Hale (not a
CB
> staffer but a visitor in '74 and camping buddy at New Year's '76)
in
> the cabin behind the office and on the Voyageur Circle.  -30deg F.
3 or
> 4 feet of the white stuff.  Great friends, warm fires, a night at
the
> Lollycoogan.
>
> E. Lee Roane
> V '70
> PT '71-'72
> VT '72-'73
> TD '74-'76.
>

#785 From: barbra behan <brb260@...>
Date: Sat Jan 3, 2009 8:19 pm
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--- On Sun, 10/19/08, barbra behan <brb260@...> wrote:
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To: "Bruce Richardson" <w9fz@...>
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:10 PM

     As you know, my Dad passed away in April 2007.  My brothers and Bonnie and I took his ashes and my Mom's back to the family plot in Toledo, Ohio in August 2007.  We had their ashes mixed together and interred them together as per their wishes.  I did have the funeral home save me some of their mixed ashes and last Aug. 2008 I went back to Boulder Junction for three days.  I scattered their combined ashes at the base where the office used to be, where the dining hall was, and where the directors quarters were located.  I also put some in the water by the beach area in White Sand lake.  While I was at the Base, I was being observed from very, very high up by a solitary bald eagle that kept circling.  I remember thinking that if his mate joined him, that would have to "twilight zonish", but she didn't.  The next day, I found the old Eagle Scout camp road where they had put up a gate.  So I parked and walked back to the clearing where the buildings stood on Lost Canoe.  I spread some ashes there and then went down to the beach where I found three large rocks going out into the water.  I carefully balanced myself out to the last rock and spread their remaining ashes in Lost Canoe.  It was very bittersweet for me, but it was something that I promised myself that I would do for Mom and Dad.  It gave me so much more closure than the trip to Toledo... I knew that they were truly home and together.  I went up there by myself, but I was not lonely.  My memories of the Base and all of the guys that made up the staff were in my mind and heart the whole time.  Just wanted all of you to know that JEB and Jean are at peace.  Hope this finds everyone healthy and well...we are all doing fine.  Let us hear from you!  Love to all of you, Barb [Boehm] Behan    

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#784 From: tim_loose@...
Date: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:04 am
Subject: Tim Loose/R3/FWS/DOI is out of the office.
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I will be out of the office starting  12/18/2008 and will not return until
01/05/2009.

I will respond to your message when I return.

#783 From: "E. Lee Roane" <bonnieandlee@...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:44 am
Subject: Happy holidays CB staff!!
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Dear NWNCB (R7NCB or R7CB) staff member,

Here's wishing you a safe and joyous holiday season and many blessings
in the coming new year.

It is at Christmas that I remember my winter experiences with Rick
Brandon and Bill Baar in 1975 and with my friend Art Hale (not a CB
staffer but a visitor in '74 and camping buddy at New Year's '76) in
the cabin behind the office and on the Voyageur Circle.  -30deg F. 3 or
4 feet of the white stuff.  Great friends, warm fires, a night at the
Lollycoogan.

E. Lee Roane
V '70
PT '71-'72
VT '72-'73
TD '74-'76.

#782 From: Chris Jacisin <jacisinc@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:15 am
Subject: Re: first visit to this site
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Hi Tom,
 
Welcome to the site.  We had a reunion in 04 at the site of the base.  Sorry we missed you.
 
The base closed officially in 86.  In 1983 the base became part of the Charles Sommer base and operated as a satelite base for a few years.  The base was losing attendance which eventually cause it's closing.  I was on staff in 80-83 and saw part of the slide.  Glad I wasn't there to see the end.
 
Stay in touch.   Glad you found us!
 
Chris Jacisin
----- Original Message ----
From: csimpkin2003 <csimpkin2003@...>
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Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2008 6:27:37 PM
Subject: [CanoeBase] first visit to this site

Hi,
This is Tom Simpkin. I was on the canoe base staff from 1974 to 1977.
This is my first visit to this site or any others.
I enjoyed the staff photos.

After graduating from the U. of Wisconsin in 1986 (after many years in
school and 3 degrees), I moved to Colorado and have been working for
as environmental engineer.

I have not had the opportunity to ever return to the Base.

One basic question, when did it close and why. I have 2 sons who are
now both Eagle scouts and I have not seen anything about it.

Thanks,
Tom




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#781 From: William Baar <wbaar@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: first visit to this site
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Tim,

The Base closed in 1984.  The last few years it was only open part of
the summer and staff with a minimun of staff.  Sometimes they would
be staff from Sommers who would come down for the few weeks that
crews went through the Base.  It's too bad that you've only recently
found the site because you missed the reunion in 2004.  It was a
great weekend.

Bill Baar
70-74

#780 From: "csimpkin2003" <csimpkin2003@...>
Date: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:27 am
Subject: first visit to this site
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Hi,
This is Tom Simpkin.  I was on the canoe base staff from 1974 to 1977.
This is my first visit to this site or any others.
I enjoyed the staff photos.

After graduating from the U. of Wisconsin in 1986 (after many years in
school and 3 degrees), I moved to Colorado and have been working for
as environmental engineer.

I have not had the opportunity to ever return to the Base.

One basic question, when did it close and why.  I have 2 sons who are
now both Eagle scouts and I have not seen anything about it.

Thanks,
Tom

#779 From: "Chris Jacisin" <jacisinc@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 10:46 am
Subject: Words to the Voyageur song?
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I just got emailed from a scout who attended the base in 1980 and
claims he remembered my picture from the web site.  Nice to know I'm
memorable for 27 years.

He's asking for the words to the voyageur song.  Anyone happen to have
that typed up anywhere in an electronic format?  I thought we had some
messages about that a while ago.

Chris Jacisin

#778 From: tom.adams2@...
Date: Sat May 26, 2007 4:21 am
Subject: Re: Short visit
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Wish I could join you.  Haven't been to BJ since the reunion in '04.  Have a great time, and include all of us "Old Timers" in the toast to JEB.  Enjoy the Walleye, too.
 
OT
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Steve Weaks" <ssweaks@...>

Headed up to the base with Steve and Roxanne Goodrich. We will be
there on July 9th staying at the Northern Highlands Motor Lodge in
Boulder. I bet we manager to raise a toast to JEB on the beach at
White Sand, come join us if you can.
Be well
Weaks


#777 From: Chris Jacisin <jacisinc@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2007 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: Short visit
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Post pictures!  Have fun!

Chris
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> Headed up to the base with Steve and Roxanne Goodrich.  We will be
> there on July 9th staying at the Northern Highlands Motor Lodge in
> Boulder.   I bet we manager to raise a toast to JEB on the beach at
> White Sand, come join us if you can.
> Be well
> Weaks
>
>
>




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#776 From: "Steve Weaks" <ssweaks@...>
Date: Thu May 24, 2007 2:27 pm
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Headed up to the base with Steve and Roxanne Goodrich.  We will be
there on July 9th staying at the Northern Highlands Motor Lodge in
Boulder.   I bet we manager to raise a toast to JEB on the beach at
White Sand, come join us if you can.
Be well
Weaks

#775 From: tom.adams2@...
Date: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:35 am
Subject: Re: John E. Boehm Canoe Base Director
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Barb,
My sincere condolences.  Your Dad (JEB) was really a GREAT guy, and I'll remember my summers with him and the rest of the CB crew forever.  I just wish we'd been able to see him at the reunion in '04.
 
OT
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Barbara (Boehm) Behan" <brb260@...>

I would like to take this opportunity to inform the staff members
from 1963-1974 that my Dad, JEB, passed away in his sleep Tues.
morning. He had been having some health issues, no one specific thing,
just a combination of alot of little things. He was never really happy
after my Mom passed away in 1996. They were together for over 50 years
and he never truly recovered from that experience. My sister and
brothers were very lucky to have had wonderful parents, as I'm sure you
former staff members know. He considered each of you family and was so
proud of all of you {most of the time!} He remembered his years at the
Canoe Base the fondest out of all his years in scouting. Thank you all
for being a part of our lives..we will miss him so much. Stay in touch
with each other if possible, you have all shared a once in a life
time "high adventure!" God Bless you all, As Always, Barbara {Boehm}
Behan


#774 From: Jim Loewen <jloewen@...>
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: John E. Boehm Canoe Base Director
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Thank you, Barb, for your fine email.
Give my best to your sister too.
As I said at the CB reunion, your father was a breath of fresh air and
integrity after the directorship of Al Hughes, who preceded him.  I much
enjoyed him and now enjoy his memory.
Best wishes -- Jim Loewen

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#773 From: "Barbara (Boehm) Behan" <brb260@...>
Date: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:35 pm
Subject: John E. Boehm Canoe Base Director
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I would like to take this opportunity to inform the staff members
from 1963-1974 that my Dad, JEB, passed away in his sleep Tues.
morning.  He had been having some health issues, no one specific thing,
just a combination of alot of little things.  He was never really happy
after my Mom passed away in 1996.  They were together for over 50 years
and he never truly recovered from that experience.  My sister and
brothers were very lucky to have had wonderful parents, as I'm sure you
former staff members know.  He considered each of you family and was so
proud of all of you {most of the time!}  He remembered his years at the
Canoe Base the fondest out of all his years in scouting.  Thank you all
for being a part of our lives..we will miss him so much.  Stay in touch
with each other if possible, you have all shared a once in a life
time "high adventure!"  God Bless you all, As Always, Barbara {Boehm}
Behan

#772 From: "David Paul Johnson" <DaveJSkier@...>
Date: Thu May 4, 2006 3:10 am
Subject: The Passing of Glen Hanson
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I received this email from Lisa on 5/2/06.
DJ


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Subject: with great sadness from Lisa Hanson
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 11:47:19 +0000

Many of you I have met and some of you I know only through Glen
sharing information about your work and or personal relationships,
however, I wanted to let you know Glen passed away on April 25.  He
was in Phoenix AZ. Preparing to start work for the URS Corporation.

His e-mail address book was quite large and I hope I have not
overlooked anyone whom he was still in contact with.

Sincerely,

Lisa Hanson

#771 From: Gary Goodman <comm_toad@...>
Date: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: A moment...
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I always preferred the "Room B" (about the same year) moments when we put on a little RUSH and turned on the strobe light.

Chris Jacisin <jacisinc@...> wrote:
I had a moment the other day I must share with all of you.

I'm in my living room doing who knows what when my 13 year old daughter
walks up behind me.  She has fallen in love with my IPod and has been
listening to it for a day or two now. 

She stops by me, catches my eye, and suddenly sings... "You can get
anything you want... at Alices Restaurant".  She smiles... and walks
away.  I didn't even know she liked the song.

Talk about surreal!  When you 13 yr old sings a folk anti-war song made
famous in the 70's while she's listening to an IPod, it's a little
weird.  The last time anyone sang that song to me was just outside the
Swamp, 1981-ish.  Same verse.  Thanks Jeff Laubenstein.

Had to share!

Chris Jacisin

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#770 From: Chris Jacisin <jacisinc@...>
Date: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:00 pm
Subject: A moment...
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I had a moment the other day I must share with all of you.

I'm in my living room doing who knows what when my 13 year old daughter
walks up behind me.  She has fallen in love with my IPod and has been
listening to it for a day or two now.

She stops by me, catches my eye, and suddenly sings... "You can get
anything you want... at Alices Restaurant".  She smiles... and walks
away.  I didn't even know she liked the song.

Talk about surreal!  When you 13 yr old sings a folk anti-war song made
famous in the 70's while she's listening to an IPod, it's a little
weird.  The last time anyone sang that song to me was just outside the
Swamp, 1981-ish.  Same verse.  Thanks Jeff Laubenstein.

Had to share!

Chris Jacisin

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#769 From: bobmarietta@...
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:35 pm
Subject: Dick Dutcher
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The adddress for Dicks' family is
300 Willow Valley Lakes Drive
Willow Street, PA
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410 740-0567
 
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> Just to let you know Dick Dutcher died early on Wednesday, Jan.18, 2006.
> There will be a memorial service on Friday, February 3,2006 at 11:00
> A.M.at the First Presbyterian Church on Orange Street, Lancaster, PA.
> Our love to all of you.
>
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#768 From: Bill Baar <wbaar@...>
Date: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:26 am
Subject: Re: FW: Re: Richard Dutcher
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Bob,

Please send me Ruth's address so I can send a card.

How are you and the family doing?

Bill

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Date: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:44 am
Subject: FW: Re: Richard Dutcher
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Subject: Re: Richard Dutcher
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Dear Friends,
Just to let you know Dick Dutcher died early on Wednesday, Jan.18, 2006.
There will be a memorial service on Friday, February 3,2006 at 11:00
A.M.at the First Presbyterian Church on Orange Street, Lancaster, PA.
Our love to all of you.

Ruth Dutcher and Family
 
 
Bob Marietta
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Columbia, Maryland 21045
410 740-0567

#766 From: John Cobb <jscobb@...>
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:57 pm
Subject: Vancouver Friendship Service
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Dear Group,
       I liked the ads.  Am always interested in making new friends,
particularly when out of town.  Maybe some would be interested in
attending the next reunion.
                     JCobb

#765 From: Chris Jacisin <jacisinc@...>
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:30 am
Subject: Re: Ignore that!
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No problem.  I used this tool a few weeks ago.  I would very much like
a higher resolution too.

--- Brian Watson <brian@...> wrote:

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> It seems there is more than one White Sands Lake and the one we want
> is at
> 46 05'N 89 36'W. It all looks so much clearer when you view the
> correct
> thing, sadly this section of the map is not to the same resolution as
> the
> first link to the other White Sands Lake.
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#764 From: "Brian Watson" <brian@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:45 pm
Subject: Ignore that!
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Hi All,

It seems there is more than one White Sands Lake and the one we want is at
46 05'N 89 36'W. It all looks so much clearer when you view the correct
thing, sadly this section of the map is not to the same resolution as the
first link to the other White Sands Lake.

Brian Watson MSc., MBCS
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#763 From: "Brian Watson" <brian@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:37 pm
Subject: Google earth
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Hi All,

This recent activity prompted me to look on Google Earth to see what
remained visible of the old camp and I have to confess that I am somewhat
disorientated. Now I know 32 years is a long time and the old grey matter is
not what it used to be and that looking from the land is not quite the same
as an ariel view but here I am looking in Wisconsin around 46 47'N 89 50'W
where I can clearly see what claims to be White Sands Lake but cannot work
out where the base used to be. Can anyone give me a lat long?

Brian Watson MSc., MBCS
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#762 From: "Brian Watson" <brian@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:40 pm
Subject: RE: Spam Filtering
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I wonder if Larry is perhaps not getting his mail for the aforementioned spam filtering reasons and therefore be oblivious to these recent messages. Has anyone spoken to him recently? I'll copy him in directly in the hope that he may realise other group members are expecting some action from him.
 
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From: CanoeBase@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CanoeBase@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Milt Forsberg
Sent: 16 January 2006 16:27
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Subject: Re: [CanoeBase] Spam Filtering

I agree that it did stir up some activity in the group, which is good. I was going to comment on that.

However, spam control should be at the group level and not necessary at the user level for these groups.  Yahoo has settings which can control spam very well for a group like ours.  The owner/moderators can set the group to moderate or approve postings by members.  In other groups, we permit someone to join, and approve their membership, but require them to be on moderated status until one or more of their postings prove that they are really interested in the group and have some knowledge about the subject of the group.  The moderators must approve the posting prior to it being sent to the group.  At some point, the moderators can set the person posting to non-moderated, allowing their postings to go without being moderated.  This works extremely well in other groups that I moderate.  Of course, if we know the person joining, we can set them to unmoderated immediately.  This takes a little time to manage on the part of the moderators, but it is worth it.  I moderate and/or own several groups and I am able to moderate them even with my Palm Treo 600 while on the road.  Having several trusted moderators makes it easier on everyone.  There is no cost to this procedure, except the time spent by moderators.

It is disappointing that we have received no comment from the list owner, and apparently the only moderator.

Milt Forsberg



At 04:38 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote:
Hi All,

I use spam filtering but as a result mail can appear to the sender as if it
were bounced. In the case of the canoe base forum this results in Yahoo
believing I have changed my email and stopping all future mail, so,
potentially important messages are lost. I have built a few forum solutions
and there are also a multitude of excellent products for forums available at
very low cost any of which could be placed on a hosted platform for under
$100 per annum. If the members believe this is a serious problem then such a
move would give the administrators total control and eliminate undesirable
members. That said I think it has been some time since we last had a spam
posting and it has prompted a flurry of activity helping to keep the forum
alive. Surely therefore something good has come from this initial negative
input!

Now did I ever share the experience of how I met my wife? Well ........

Brian Watson MSc., MBCS
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#761 From: Milt Forsberg <miltf@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Spam Filtering
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I agree that it did stir up some activity in the group, which is good. I was going to comment on that.

However, spam control should be at the group level and not necessary at the user level for these groups.  Yahoo has settings which can control spam very well for a group like ours.  The owner/moderators can set the group to moderate or approve postings by members.  In other groups, we permit someone to join, and approve their membership, but require them to be on moderated status until one or more of their postings prove that they are really interested in the group and have some knowledge about the subject of the group.  The moderators must approve the posting prior to it being sent to the group.  At some point, the moderators can set the person posting to non-moderated, allowing their postings to go without being moderated.  This works extremely well in other groups that I moderate.  Of course, if we know the person joining, we can set them to unmoderated immediately.  This takes a little time to manage on the part of the moderators, but it is worth it.  I moderate and/or own several groups and I am able to moderate them even with my Palm Treo 600 while on the road.  Having several trusted moderators makes it easier on everyone.  There is no cost to this procedure, except the time spent by moderators.

It is disappointing that we have received no comment from the list owner, and apparently the only moderator.

Milt Forsberg



At 04:38 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote:
Hi All,

I use spam filtering but as a result mail can appear to the sender as if it
were bounced. In the case of the canoe base forum this results in Yahoo
believing I have changed my email and stopping all future mail, so,
potentially important messages are lost. I have built a few forum solutions
and there are also a multitude of excellent products for forums available at
very low cost any of which could be placed on a hosted platform for under
$100 per annum. If the members believe this is a serious problem then such a
move would give the administrators total control and eliminate undesirable
members. That said I think it has been some time since we last had a spam
posting and it has prompted a flurry of activity helping to keep the forum
alive. Surely therefore something good has come from this initial negative
input!

Now did I ever share the experience of how I met my wife? Well ........

Brian Watson MSc., MBCS
Brian Watson & Co.,

#760 From: "Brian Watson" <brian@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:38 am
Subject: Spam Filtering
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Hi All,

I use spam filtering but as a result mail can appear to the sender as if it
were bounced. In the case of the canoe base forum this results in Yahoo
believing I have changed my email and stopping all future mail, so,
potentially important messages are lost. I have built a few forum solutions
and there are also a multitude of excellent products for forums available at
very low cost any of which could be placed on a hosted platform for under
$100 per annum. If the members believe this is a serious problem then such a
move would give the administrators total control and eliminate undesirable
members. That said I think it has been some time since we last had a spam
posting and it has prompted a flurry of activity helping to keep the forum
alive. Surely therefore something good has come from this initial negative
input!

Now did I ever share the experience of how I met my wife? Well ........

Brian Watson MSc., MBCS
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#759 From: Milt Forsberg <miltf@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:49 am
Subject: RE: List co-moderation
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The Yahoo groups can work well if they are managed properly. The ones I either own or moderate have no problems with spam because of the control over new members joining. I find the Yahoo groups very easy to manage and fairly simple to configure.  The "mailman" systems seem a bit awkward and don't have the options and ease of use that Yahoo groups do.  Thanks for your comments, Bruce.  I hope we can work out something with the group to make it better.

Milt Forsberg



At 07:40 PM 1/15/2006, you wrote:
Please know that Chris Jacisin has also made contact attempts with Larry to achieve same.
 
When I get back from this airline trip, I will either attempt contact myself or hand off my direct contact info to Milt, Chris, and David.
 
I run a few lists on webspace that I pay for and use "mailman" software and always wanted to switch all of us over to it because of "control" issues I guess.  But some people "like" yahoo groups.  If I were to start up a non-yahoo mail list (with signup directions on the webpage), I'd need the Yahoo group to go "away" to avoid confusion.
 
Yes, I think the yahoo group "can" work.  If our next attempts at gaining co-moderation ability, then I suppose we could entertain other options then.
 
I'm in Seattle at the moment.  Hope you are all well.
 
Bruce Richardson

#758 From: "Bruce Richardson" <w9fz@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:40 am
Subject: RE: List co-moderation
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Please know that Chris Jacisin has also made contact attempts with Larry to achieve same.
 
When I get back from this airline trip, I will either attempt contact myself or hand off my direct contact info to Milt, Chris, and David.
 
I run a few lists on webspace that I pay for and use "mailman" software and always wanted to switch all of us over to it because of "control" issues I guess.  But some people "like" yahoo groups.  If I were to start up a non-yahoo mail list (with signup directions on the webpage), I'd need the Yahoo group to go "away" to avoid confusion.
 
Yes, I think the yahoo group "can" work.  If our next attempts at gaining co-moderation ability, then I suppose we could entertain other options then.
 
I'm in Seattle at the moment.  Hope you are all well.
 
Bruce Richardson 

#757 From: Milt Forsberg <miltf@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Cam-personals are not bad at all.
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The spam filter is not the best solution. Not everyone has the same filter, and maybe not even a filter. The presence of spam will drive people away. We really need to work toward having a spam free group.

I don't understand why Larry doesn't answer his email on this.

Creating a duplicate group is a solution, but I hope we can avoid that.

Milt Forsberg


At 04:13 PM 1/15/2006, you wrote:
I have a spam filter that seems to work, because I didn't get this ad,
yet I think I get non-ad posts.  So maybe that's a solution too.

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