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#929 From: Becky Buchanan <boltb4@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:21 am
Subject: Calling all musicians for the Spring Coronation Ball
emelye_tayte
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At Spring Coronation, 3/22/08 - Carthage MO, a Ball will be held in honor of Her
Royal Highness Isabeau. If you are a musician and wish to play in the musician's
pit for the Ball, please email me and I will email you the music.

Thanks,

Lady Emelye Tayte
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Coronation website:
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#930 From: "Rowan" <rowan@...>
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2008 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: Lilies War!
cathusrowan
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Ok.  I'm starting to get my act together for Lilies.
How long and when are each of your 3 slots per day for dance classes?  I'm
assuming 1&1/2 - 2 hours, since RUSH classes are running 9-noon and 1-5, and
  in the past we have gotten 4-5 1hr slots.  I think 11/2hr slots would  be
great cause it ensures that everyone gets to learn - not just review - the
dances.

Do we have the permanent pavillion for dance classes again? Have you
sceduled it with both RUSH and the scedulear.  I'm asking cause once of the
other lists I'm on mentioned a roundtable/potluck at the permant pavillion
starting at 3pm on Tuesday.

Sign both me and Cathus up for teaching, we can teach nearly anything.  How
is your dance classes list coming?  What else do you need?  When and what do
you need taught?  Since the ball is Wed I assume you want classes before Wed
to concentrate on dances in the ball.


HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
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-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CalontirDance] Lilies War!


Greetings Dancers of Calontir!
       Tsire asked me I wouldn't mind compiling a list of dance classes for
this years Lilies.  Therefore, I need volunteers that are A) going to be at
war this years, B) willing to teach and C) have ideas for classes they want
to see (as I am far from an expert in the field of dance).  Please let me
know what you are excited in teaching and wanting to participate in.  I
can't wait to take the classes!  Thanks.  Helena Gewolf.


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#931 From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:13 pm
Subject: Re: Lilies War!
kell100312
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Greetings Rowan and the dancers of Calontir!
          I wanted to apologize for my tardiness in responding.  We could still
use everyone to teach everything.  The only claimed classes are Cascarde class
and a Balli class one on Thursday morning and one on Friday.  I have a class in
mind for English country dance, but i will need to see if I can borrow the
teacher as his services might be consumed for much of war.  Right now, the
classes are set up to be one hour blocks, but don't see any problems making
classes longer as need be.  Just let me know what you want to see, when and how
long so that I can get it into the schedule.
           We also need review classes on Wednesday for the Ball.  The dance list
is:

   Carolingian PavanMy Lady CullenAnelloVillane llaHeralds in LoveBlack
AlmanGracca AmorosaHeart' s EaseHyde ParkPetit VriensBlack NagSellinger' s
RoundRoad to the IslesRosti Boli GioiosoPicking of SticksKorabushka  Saturday
Night Sunday Morn
Confesse

   Please feel free to let me know what you want to teach, as well as what you
would like to see taught.  I am really excited about Liles!  My goal is to have
the dance schedule set by the ball at the Dance Symposioum the in Bellewode
(19th of April) as the information needs to go to RUSH soon after that weekend.

   Thanks to all!

   Helena Gewolf.

Rowan <rowan@...> wrote:
           Ok. I'm starting to get my act together for Lilies.
How long and when are each of your 3 slots per day for dance classes? I'm
assuming 1&1/2 - 2 hours, since RUSH classes are running 9-noon and 1-5, and
in the past we have gotten 4-5 1hr slots. I think 11/2hr slots would be
great cause it ensures that everyone gets to learn - not just review - the
dances.

Do we have the permanent pavillion for dance classes again? Have you
sceduled it with both RUSH and the scedulear. I'm asking cause once of the
other lists I'm on mentioned a roundtable/potluck at the permant pavillion
starting at 3pm on Tuesday.

Sign both me and Cathus up for teaching, we can teach nearly anything. How
is your dance classes list coming? What else do you need? When and what do
you need taught? Since the ball is Wed I assume you want classes before Wed
to concentrate on dances in the ball.

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx

-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CalontirDance] Lilies War!

Greetings Dancers of Calontir!
Tsire asked me I wouldn't mind compiling a list of dance classes for
this years Lilies. Therefore, I need volunteers that are A) going to be at
war this years, B) willing to teach and C) have ideas for classes they want
to see (as I am far from an expert in the field of dance). Please let me
know what you are excited in teaching and wanting to participate in. I
can't wait to take the classes! Thanks. Helena Gewolf.

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#932 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:10 pm
Subject: Coronation Dancers
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If you agreed to dance with HRH into court this weekend please remember that we
will be meeting at 8:30 am to review and prep. Please be on site and ready to
spend 15-20 minutes on this at that time. I appreciate it greatly.

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#933 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:36 am
Subject: Re: Coronation Dancers
bramblethorne
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Does that mean the musicians can skive off and sleep in?

Poor dancers.

Tsire Tuzevo wrote:
> If you agreed to dance with HRH into court this weekend please remember that
we will be meeting at 8:30 am to review and prep. Please be on site and ready to
spend 15-20 minutes on this at that time. I appreciate it greatly.
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#934 From: Conna <conna1@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Coronation Dancers
connacarol
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Just to clarify, court music will be handled by a small group of
musicians, just to save on space (and sanity). This group is already
organized and ready to go, and Emelye will be leading us.

The ball in the evening will have an open pit, and all musicians are
welcome. It should be a party!

Hope to see everyone at the ball!
Conna


On Thursday, March 20, 2008, at 11:36 PM, 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach
Mirywoder Lutre wrote:

> Does that mean the musicians can skive off and sleep in?
>
> Poor dancers.
>
> Tsire Tuzevo wrote:
> > If you agreed to dance with HRH into court this weekend please
> remember that we will be meeting at 8:30 am to review and prep. Please
> be on site and ready to spend 15-20 minutes on this at that time. I
> appreciate it greatly.
> >
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#935 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:34 pm
Subject: RE: Coronation Dancers
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Merry,

I don't know what the plan is for the musicians. While I believe that all those
involved in morning court have some sort of early AM meeting, I am only
responsible for the dancing contingent and don't have firm info on anyone else.

Are you planning on playing for the ball?
Tsire


To: CalontirDance@...: Merry@...: Fri,
21 Mar 2008 00:36:07 -0500Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Coronation Dancers




Does that mean the musicians can skive off and sleep in?Poor dancers.Tsire
Tuzevo wrote:> If you agreed to dance with HRH into court this weekend please
remember that we will be meeting at 8:30 am to review and prep. Please be on
site and ready to spend 15-20 minutes on this at that time. I appreciate it
greatly. > > Tsire> > >
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Columbia, MOhttp://Thistledowne.org/
http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne
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#936 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Coronation Dancers
bramblethorne
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I've been practicing the set list, but don't know that I have everything
up to speed, but I'd like to join in where I am able.

Out of curiosity, when is the ball 'slated' to be?   At their pleasure
I'm certain, but is it before evening court, after/before feast, after
feast?  My wife and I didn't find out we were going to be able to make
it until late and so missed the chance to buy feast... also, all the
dishes have gluten and my wife has celiac disease, so we may sneak away
and have dinner with a couple of friends in town, if we can do that and
not miss the ball.

Anyone know of good Japanese in Joplin?

Tsire Tuzevo wrote:
> Merry,
>
> I don't know what the plan is for the musicians. While I believe that all
those involved in morning court have some sort of early AM meeting, I am only
responsible for the dancing contingent and don't have firm info on anyone else.
>
> Are you planning on playing for the ball?
> Tsire
>
>
> To: CalontirDance@...: Merry@...:
Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:36:07 -0500Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Coronation Dancers
>
>
>
>
> Does that mean the musicians can skive off and sleep in?Poor dancers.Tsire
Tuzevo wrote:> If you agreed to dance with HRH into court this weekend please
remember that we will be meeting at 8:30 am to review and prep. Please be on
site and ready to spend 15-20 minutes on this at that time. I appreciate it
greatly. > > Tsire> > >
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http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne
MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly
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ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....

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#937 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:49 pm
Subject: RE: Coronation Dancers
tsire@...
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No idea of food in Carthage or Joplin but I do know that the ball is slated for
'after feast' I won't be feasting either but will be MC-ing the ball. I hope,
once on site, to get in touch with the feast steward and figure out the timing
of all of that stuff.

Tsire


To: CalontirDance@...: Merry@...: Fri,
21 Mar 2008 13:21:51 -0500Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Coronation Dancers




I've been practicing the set list, but don't know that I have everything up to
speed, but I'd like to join in where I am able.Out of curiosity, when is the
ball 'slated' to be? At their pleasure I'm certain, but is it before evening
court, after/before feast, after feast? My wife and I didn't find out we were
going to be able to make it until late and so missed the chance to buy feast...
also, all the dishes have gluten and my wife has celiac disease, so we may sneak
away and have dinner with a couple of friends in town, if we can do that and not
miss the ball.Anyone know of good Japanese in Joplin?Tsire Tuzevo wrote:>
Merry,> > I don't know what the plan is for the musicians. While I believe that
all those involved in morning court have some sort of early AM meeting, I am
only responsible for the dancing contingent and don't have firm info on anyone
else. > > Are you planning on playing for the ball?> Tsire>>> To:
CalontirDance@...: Merry@...: Fri, 21
Mar 2008 00:36:07 -0500Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Coronation Dancers>>>>> Does
that mean the musicians can skive off and sleep in?Poor dancers.Tsire Tuzevo
wrote:> If you agreed to dance with HRH into court this weekend please remember
that we will be meeting at 8:30 am to review and prep. Please be on site and
ready to spend 15-20 minutes on this at that time. I appreciate it greatly. > >
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Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutreChristian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 ---
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http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne
MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly
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http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne
MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly
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#938 From: "Rowan" <rowan@...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: Lilies War!
cathusrowan
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OK
We have the following classes for you to add the the Lillies RUSH dance
schedule.
Lady Arina will teach English Country for 3 Couples (Black Nag, Jenny Pluck
Pears, Grimstock)
HL Cathus will teach New English Country
HL Cathus will teach Bassa
HL Rowan will teach English Country Square Dancing (Hearts Ease, Ruffty Tuffty,
Hyde Park)
HL Rowan will teach Lilies Ball Review (on Wed)
HL Rowan will teach The Odd Italians (Italian dances with odd numbers or gender
disparity in
the dancers)

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
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From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

Cc: pretzelbear@...

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:13:02 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Lilies War!




Greetings Rowan and the dancers of Calontir!

          I wanted to apologize for my tardiness in responding.  We could
still use everyone to teach everything.  The only claimed classes are
Cascarde class and a Balli class one on Thursday morning and one on Friday.
I have a class in mind for English country dance, but i will need to see if
I can borrow the teacher as his services might be consumed for much of war.
Right now, the classes are set up to be one hour blocks, but don't see any
problems making classes longer as need be.  Just let me know what you want
to see, when and how long so that I can get it into the schedule.

           We also need review classes on Wednesday for the Ball.  The dance
list is:



   Carolingian PavanMy Lady CullenAnelloVillane llaHeralds in LoveBlack
AlmanGracca AmorosaHeart' s EaseHyde ParkPetit VriensBlack NagSellinger' s
RoundRoad to the IslesRosti Boli GioiosoPicking of SticksKorabushka
Saturday Night Sunday Morn

Confesse



   Please feel free to let me know what you want to teach, as well as what
you would like to see taught.  I am really excited about Liles!  My goal is
to have the dance schedule set by the ball at the Dance Symposioum the in
Bellewode (19th of April) as the information needs to go to RUSH soon after
that weekend.



   Thanks to all!



   Helena Gewolf.



Rowan <rowan@...> wrote:

           Ok. I'm starting to get my act together for Lilies.

How long and when are each of your 3 slots per day for dance classes? I'm

assuming 1&1/2 - 2 hours, since RUSH classes are running 9-noon and 1-5, and


in the past we have gotten 4-5 1hr slots. I think 11/2hr slots would be

great cause it ensures that everyone gets to learn - not just review - the

dances.



Do we have the permanent pavillion for dance classes again? Have you

sceduled it with both RUSH and the scedulear. I'm asking cause once of the

other lists I'm on mentioned a roundtable/potluck at the permant pavillion

starting at 3pm on Tuesday.



Sign both me and Cathus up for teaching, we can teach nearly anything. How

is your dance classes list coming? What else do you need? When and what do

you need taught? Since the ball is Wed I assume you want classes before Wed

to concentrate on dances in the ball.



HL Rowan Houndskeeper

Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir

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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx



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From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:45 -0800 (PST)

Subject: [CalontirDance] Lilies War!



Greetings Dancers of Calontir!

Tsire asked me I wouldn't mind compiling a list of dance classes for

this years Lilies. Therefore, I need volunteers that are A) going to be at

war this years, B) willing to teach and C) have ideas for classes they want

to see (as I am far from an expert in the field of dance). Please let me

know what you are excited in teaching and wanting to participate in. I

can't wait to take the classes! Thanks. Helena Gewolf.



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#939 From: "Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...>
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:38 pm
Subject: Terp?
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Is anyone planning on going to terp this weekend?



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#940 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: RE: Terp?
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I want to but I'm overcommitted here at home once again. This is just a crappy
time of year for me life-wise and I feel like I'll never get to make the trip.

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#941 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:26 am
Subject: Question about Scotland the Brave.
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I've been monitoring a bit of a debate about period dances on another
list and it reminded me to ask a question I've had for a long while
regarding this tune/dance.  People keep telling me that the tune itself
is ancient and that the words and title are the modern elements of the
thing (I haven't the foggiest notion where the dance... i.e., the steps
and such fall in this realm), and I've maintained for many years that
the tune and name both cannot be documented back previous to the 20th
century (or possibly the 19th on the same reasoning that print and
publishing always follows composition by some period of variable duration).

I included the research I found many years ago when I notated the
version our band uses here:
http://bcfdpipesanddrums.com/tunes/ScotlandTheBrave.pdf   The citing of
it as being part of several traditions suggests that it may have perhaps
appeared in tradition long before appearing in print, but not in any
conclusive way as it could have just as easily come to these traditions
as a modern tune.

If this information is incorrect, I'd like to update both the music on
that site and my own mind.

It's subtitled on my music as "Road to the Isles".  Is this an
alternative name, or perhaps the name of the dance itself?

Also wondering...   is this tune in the public domain?  I assume by the
dates listed in my research that it is, but I've been learning _not_ to
assume, but to ask.

While the tune itself is not so very Tin Pan Alley-esque, the lyric
certainly is (though many date TPA as ending before 1950), and as such
I've always had a very strong dislike for the tune only because having
TPA songs figure so prominently in the music the pipe band is expected
to play irritates me on some deep level (I need to get over it).   Songs
such as Danny Boy, Flower of Scotland, and Mull of Kintyre (yes... not
TPA, but still.... I actually ran across music that listed this tune,
composed in 1977/1978 by His Nibs, Master Paul McCartney that was listed
as "Traditional".... oh the travails of music copyright.... and folks
trying to get around it either through ignorance or design)

Thanks in advance.

--

     // Merry

----------
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Shire of Standing Stones; Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
Christian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 --- Columbia, MO
http://Thistledowne.org/  http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/
ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....

'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly 'Turlough',
pronounced 'TIR' or 'TUR' + 'low', 'logh', 'lock', or 'loch'

#942 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:51 am
Subject: Question about MIDI format.
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Greetings.  Hoping that by casting such a wide net I might net a few
keepers.

I've been wondering for a long while now if anyone else has had the
experience of exporting MIDI music (I do it from Finale), and than
making it available for listening/downloading off of a website and
experiencing problems with QuickTime playing a nasty horrible 100% gain
white-noise transient at the beginning of playback, especially when the
link is clicked and the browser plays it inside using the Quicktime
plugin.  I assume it's a buffering issue where playback begins prior to
frames actually being rendered and thus some sort of nonsense frames are
sent to the soundcard (to very very unpleasant/painful effect).  It
doesn't happen every time.

I had hoped that it was primarily a Finale export problem... that some
way the MIDI it writes doesn't have instructions to pre-buffer/render or
some such and that when I upgraded from 2001 to 2007 that the problem
would be rectified, but this has not been the case.  Further, I've
experienced it from MIDI that I doubt very much was generated using
Finale.

Either way, I'd like to figure out a way to put some sort of leader, or
command to address this issue.  I don't want people thinking that the
files I distribute are of poor quality because they get their eardrums
slammed together by that transient, when quality control is one of my
highest priorities.

Anyways.  Anyone else familiar with this problem, and perhaps a
solution?   Some of my MIDIs are here:
http://music.shireofstandingstones.org/index.php?Content=Music
http://bcfdpipesanddrums.com/index.php?Content=Music

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     // Merry

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Shire of Standing Stones; Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
Christian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 --- Columbia, MO
http://Thistledowne.org/  http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/
ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....

'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly 'Turlough',
pronounced 'TIR' or 'TUR' + 'low', 'logh', 'lock', or 'loch'

#943 From: "Evelyn Alden" <calonkat@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Question about Scotland the Brave.
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To the best of my knowledge, your information on Scotland the Brave is
correct.

Road to the Isles is a different song/tune/dance,
http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_road.htm  for lyrics
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=13906#116925
"Rise Up Singing says "Road to the Isles" has words by Kenneth MacLeod
and music by Patuffa Kennedy-Fraser and Marjorie Kennedy-Fraser, from
a book by Marjorie Kennedy Fraser called Songs of the Hebrides with
the 1917 copyright renewed in 1944 by Boosey & Hawkes, Inc. The
database makes things clearer by saying the song was collected and
translated by Kennedy-Fraser and MacLeod."

To the best of my knowledge (and it's gotta be 20 years since I last
checked)  there is no mundane folk dance called Scotland the Brave.
The dance we do is an SCA creation (and if I have written down
where/when/who created it, I don't have it here) that used elements of
Road to the Isles and Gai Gordans (spelling???)
http://www.evansvillefolkdancers.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/roadtot\
heislesdn.pdf
is the dance Road to the Isles the way I learned it in V'tavia.

You will continually run into the idea the if something is
"traditional" it must be period.  All you can do is ask for a
reference, perhaps try to point out the problems with this view, and
never get in an online argument about this point :-)   I've edited
this post for quite a while, and still can't come up with a polite
defense for the opposition ;-)

"Ancient" is apparently code for "we want to use it but we can't document it"

Heck, bransles are probably much older than Arbeau, but all we can say
for sure is that he describes the dances as being done in his youth,
so maybe 30-40 years earlier than the book was published.  As much as
I'd like they still don't qualify as "medieval dances".  Much less
"ancient dances".

katriana
apparently grumpy


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:26 AM, 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder
Lutre <Merry@...> wrote:
>
> I've been monitoring a bit of a debate about period dances on another
> list and it reminded me to ask a question I've had for a long while
> regarding this tune/dance. People keep telling me that the tune itself
> is ancient and that the words and title are the modern elements of the
> thing (I haven't the foggiest notion where the dance... i.e., the steps
> and such fall in this realm), and I've maintained for many years that
> the tune and name both cannot be documented back previous to the 20th
> century (or possibly the 19th on the same reasoning that print and
> publishing always follows composition by some period of variable duration).
>
> I included the research I found many years ago when I notated the
> version our band uses here:
> http://bcfdpipesanddrums.com/tunes/ScotlandTheBrave.pdf The citing of
> it as being part of several traditions suggests that it may have perhaps
> appeared in tradition long before appearing in print, but not in any
> conclusive way as it could have just as easily come to these traditions
> as a modern tune.
>
> If this information is incorrect, I'd like to update both the music on
> that site and my own mind.
>
> It's subtitled on my music as "Road to the Isles". Is this an
> alternative name, or perhaps the name of the dance itself?
>
> Also wondering... is this tune in the public domain? I assume by the
> dates listed in my research that it is, but I've been learning _not_ to
> assume, but to ask.
>
> While the tune itself is not so very Tin Pan Alley-esque, the lyric
> certainly is (though many date TPA as ending before 1950), and as such
> I've always had a very strong dislike for the tune only because having
> TPA songs figure so prominently in the music the pipe band is expected
> to play irritates me on some deep level (I need to get over it). Songs
> such as Danny Boy, Flower of Scotland, and Mull of Kintyre (yes... not
> TPA, but still.... I actually ran across music that listed this tune,
> composed in 1977/1978 by His Nibs, Master Paul McCartney that was listed
> as "Traditional".... oh the travails of music copyright.... and folks
> trying to get around it either through ignorance or design)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
>
> // Merry
>
> ----------
> 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre
> Shire of Standing Stones; Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
> Christian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 --- Columbia, MO
> http://Thistledowne.org/ http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/
> ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....
>
> 'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly 'Turlough',
> pronounced 'TIR' or 'TUR' + 'low', 'logh', 'lock', or 'loch'
>
>

#944 From: Katriana <calonkat@...>
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:22 am
Subject: Re: Terp?
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Sauer, Michael F. wrote:
>
>
> Is anyone planning on going to terp this weekend?
>
> Conrad

Got to get Emily off to an ACT training class tomorrow morning.  I'm
hoping when she starts college I'll have more time :-)  but right now
I've got to do the mom thing.
katriana

#945 From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2008 8:29 pm
Subject: Lilies War
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Greetings one and all,
           I wanted to touch base with everyone as we are getting closer to the
deadline to sign up for teaching at Lilies this year.  I need to turn in the
schedule shortly after the Bellewode Dance Symposium.  Please take this
opportunity to share your knowledge of medieval dance at Lilies.  I know I am
excited to learn!  Please email me at kell100312@... with what you want to
teach and what days you are available. Thanks for everyone who has offered so
far!  Have a great day.  Helena Gewolf


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#946 From: "Eric Scott" <eric.o.scott@...>
Date: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:34 pm
Subject: Bellewode Heraldic, Scribal, and Dance Symposium Class Schedule
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Greetings unto all,

The class schedule for the Bellewode Heraldic, Scribal, and Dance Symposium
is now up at our website, http://ssmc.truman.edu.

Teachers: please look at the schedule and let me know if I have you at an
inconvenient time, have your class listed incorrectly, or if I have somehow
forgotten to put your class on the list- I don't think I missed any, but I'm
only human.

Thank you to all who have volunteered to teach and are helping to put this
event together. I hope to see you all next week!

In service,

-Lord Aldheim of Sevenoaks, autocrat

--
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The squat pen rests.
I'll dig with it.

-Seamus Heaney


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#947 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:08 am
Subject: Re: Bellewode Heraldic, Scribal, and Dance Symposium Class Schedule
bramblethorne
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Tsire told me on Thursday that she would be teaching a class...  Is this
still so?

Eric Scott wrote:
> Greetings unto all,
>
> The class schedule for the Bellewode Heraldic, Scribal, and Dance Symposium
> is now up at our website, http://ssmc.truman.edu.
>
> Teachers: please look at the schedule and let me know if I have you at an
> inconvenient time, have your class listed incorrectly, or if I have somehow
> forgotten to put your class on the list- I don't think I missed any, but I'm
> only human.
>
> Thank you to all who have volunteered to teach and are helping to put this
> event together. I hope to see you all next week!
>
> In service,
>
> -Lord Aldheim of Sevenoaks, autocrat
>
>

--

     // Merry

----------
'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre
Shire of Standing Stones; Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
Christian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 --- Columbia, MO
http://Thistledowne.org/  http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/
ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....

'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly 'Turlough',
pronounced 'TIR' or 'TUR' + 'low', 'logh', 'lock', or 'loch'

#948 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:42 am
Subject: Musicological Questions about Cofrin Rostiboli Gioioso and in general, why 6/4?
bramblethorne
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Looking over the music for Bellewode and struggling to learn this tune
and make it sound like music.  I turned to the two recorded versions I
have and only was more confused as they appear to be a completely
different arrangements than the sheet music and indeed a completely
different key (or I'm confused... quite likely).   I finally notated it
into Finale so I could listen to Finale play it and make it sound like
music.

Anyways, it brought up two questions for me right near the end.

1. At the end of the piece it says "D.C. al Sign" (Da Capo, "To the head
and then to the sign", yes?)  I've never seen this used before... i.e.,
the "D.C." and "al Sign".  Actually, I've never seen "al Sign".  There
is a Segno, a sign over the first measure of the section marked by the A
rehearsal letter. The lead indicates "Intro (AA,BB',CC,DD) x 2 so I'm
wondering if it's a typo and should be D.S. al Fine (Dal Segno "From the
sign to the end", yes?)... i.e., play the whole thing twice through
skipping the intro portion the second time around.   Is this correct?

2.  The second question has to do with the 1/8th note rests at the end
of section marked with the C rehearsal letter mark and the anacrusis at
the beginning of the section marked D.  I'm not certain how to ask the
question.   I guess...  well.  Is the rest actually played the second
time through?  It sounds rather odd to my ear in the Finale playback to
have the pause, and then the anacrusis, and then full-value measures.  I
have not yet seen this danced, and perhaps it will make sense to me then
as Petite Vriens finally did when I danced it (in groups of three....
like the music... which had been bothering me).  Indeed, I only heard
Rostiboli Gioioso for the first time at the practice session for the
Coronation ball.  It was lovely and I was so mesmerized that I couldn't
even follow the music, and then very disappointed when it was cut from
the ball because I wanted to hear it again and see it danced.I guess as
a whole I'm wondering why the D section is in 12/4 as three of the parts
are in duple beat groupings whereas only the last measure is in
quadruple groupings.  I think this is probably my confusion over meter
signatures, especially compound meter signatures, but I'd like to
understand it if someone can clue me in.

Finally, and this doesn't have anything to do with Rostiboli Gioioso
specifically though it does apply...  Why 6/4?  I think I'm finally
beginning to feel this meter when Master Conrad has us doing dances (and
finally beginning to be able to 'read' it in my halting manner of
sight-reading), but I'm certain I'm missing some important underlying
distinction or reasoning behind why so much of the music in our dance
repertoire is in this meter that I've really never seen anywhere else.
Was it just popular 'in the day'?  Is it actually more common today than
my limited experience with it?  What recommends it, or what effect is it
supposed to be evoking in the music or the dance...   I'm sure it's
subtle which is why I'm not grasping it.   If anyone can help me
understand I'd be super grateful as it's something I've been wondering
about _often_ for over a year now.

Thank you for taking the time to read my confusing muddle.

--

     // Merry

----------
'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre
Shire of Standing Stones; Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
Christian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 --- Columbia, MO
http://Thistledowne.org/  http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/
ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....

'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly 'Turlough',
pronounced 'TIR' or 'TUR' + 'low', 'logh', 'lock', or 'loch'

#949 From: Becky Buchanan <boltb4@...>
Date: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:44 am
Subject: Paging Christian d'Hiver
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Chrstian,

Please contact me off list regarding musical matters.

Thanks,

Emelye Tayte



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#950 From: "mateoalanohombrealtopezold" <mlagemann@...>
Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:15 pm
Subject: A new guy... and an idea
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Hey all!  I have meant to join this list long ago and just now got
around to it.

I did have an idea that popped in my head for a competition.  If we
could have someone write a piece of music with an identifiable verse
and chorus of so many beats that was in the sam style of English
Country, I think you could make a competition out of people creating a
period possible dance that goes with the music.  I think it would be
something different, would cause people to take a good look at what
makes a dance period in nature.  Thoughts?

Ermenrich

p.s. Hope to see all of you this weekend.

#951 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:12 am
Subject: Questions for hammered dulcimer knowledgeable folks. (Christian?)
bramblethorne
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So... I'm nearing the end of a 10 year project (I hope) of building a
13/13 52 string Diatonic Hammered dulcimer from plans #39 from
http://luth.org

Perhaps foolishly, I began building an instrument I've never played and
assumed I could just pick it up like I have nearly every other
instrument I've set my mind on, but, when I chose the plans to make I
only wished to play Irish/Trad music and I'm beginning to worry that I'm
going to end up with an instrument that I pretty much cannot use for a
great deal of the dance music we play unless I want to just drop 90% of
the Bb notes in 90% of the music.  However, I'm completely ignorant
about this instrument so maybe I have nothing to worry about.   I'm also
wondering if there are any modifications I can make at this late point
or alternative tunings I can use w/o bollixing the whole thing up.  The
tuning in plans is as follows:

                 _*T*_         _*B*_
              Eb / G#    D# \
              D / G        C \
             C / *F         Bb* \
            B / E            A \
           A / D              G \
          G / *C                F * \
        F# / B                  E \
        E / A                    D \
       D / *G                      C * \
     C# / F#                       B \
     B / E                          A \
    A / *D                            G * \
  G# / C#                            F# \

I understand that I can box off four strings on each treble bridge and
get a diatonic scale

C - D - E - F - G - A - B - C
|----------|
|    C / *F *|
|   B / E  |
|  A / D   |
| G / *C    *|**
|----------|

G - A - B - C - D - E - F# - G
|----------|
|    G / *C* |
|  F# / B  |
|  E / A   |
| D / *G    *|
|----------|

D - E - F# - G - A - B - C# - D
|----------|
|    D / *G *|
|  C# / F# |
|  B / E   |
| A / *D    *|
|----------|

But there my understanding of the fifths tuning system used ends, though
I'm guessing that the same pattern works between the bass bridge and the
right hand side of the treble bridge,

C - D - E - F - G - A - B - C
|-------------------|
|    G / *C *-* F * \    |
|  F# / B  -  E \   |
|  E / A   -   D \  |
| D / *G    *-*    C * \ |
|-------------------|

but I don't know the relationship between two bridges is such that the
jump between the first four notes of the scale and the following four
notes of the scale are consecutive, but I'm guessing from the lengths of
the string are such that they are.  Is this so?  I.e., that the G above
the C in the following example is exactly a fifth and not an octave + a
fifth?

  D / *G *|<----- 5th ----- >|*  C * \
or
  D / *G *|<-- 8va + 5th -- >|*  C * \

But still... even if one can get a nice lovely diatonic major scale in
G, C, F, Bb, D, G, C, F, I'm still not seeing the ever popular Gm scale
(unless the 6th scale degree is raised a half step, but since raising
the 6th is a out of period or later period practice and must be in
company with a raised 7th scale degree for the melodic minor, I think
I'm still out of luck.)

I have no idea how the extra strings are used on a chromatic dulcimer as
I can't seem to find a diagram with the note assignments, and moreover
the note assignments never specify which octave the note is in, I still
wouldn't be certain where the extra strings fall into the mix.

So... am I out of luck with regards to our music, or is there a slight
tuning modification I can make (or drastic change), or a way to modify
things to make it chromatic?

Anyone out there with a diatonic dulcimer like this that has luck with
our dance music?

I realize that my understanding of music theory is a big limiting factor
here and I ask forgiveness.  I'm trying to pick it up and put everything
into a perspective of understanding, but it's a struggle.

Thanks all.

--

     // Merry

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'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre
Shire of Standing Stones; Formerly: Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
Christian M. Cepel --- 573.999.2370 --- Columbia, MO
http://Thistledowne.org/  http://ShireOfStandingStones.org/
ICQ:12384980 YIM/AOL:Bramblethorne MSN:Merry@ShireOfS.....

'Toirdhealbhach' anglicized Tirloughe (1576), modernly 'Turlough',
pronounced 'TIR' or 'TUR' + 'low', 'logh', 'lock', or 'loch'



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#952 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:17 pm
Subject: New to this list
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Greetings everyone.  I had planned to be at the Dance Symposium in Bellewode
today but ended up getting sick.  I'm glad I found this list.  I am planning to
start teaching Dance in the Barony of Mag Mor on Thursday and was really looking
forward to the symposium giving me some help in that.  I do not have any music
and it has been a while since I've danced myself.  Any suggestions on how to get
a dance group going would be greatly appreciated.  I have looked at the links
page, but not the archives yet.

Thanks for any and all suggestions, words of advice, etc.
Sara Sophia

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#953 From: "Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:33 pm
Subject: RE: New to this list
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Sara Sophia

So sorry you missed it, but here are some links to downloadable music

http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/TOD_1/

http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/TOD_2/

http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/TOD_3/

http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/TOD_4/

The Tape of Dance was a quasi official SCA wide dance source for the
Letter of Dance.

http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/i-arbeau/

Some of the above might be a bit dated but they should get you started.

For purchasing I can't recommend anything more than musica subterranean

http://payplay.fm/musicasubterranea1

these are specifically recorded by SCA musicians for dancing.
The page the above link takes you to is the first album, the second two
Can be seen at the top right, cornucopia and incantare

Conrad

PS welcome

#954 From: Conna <conna1@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: New to this list
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I'll second Conrad in saying Welcome!!!

Sorry you weren't able to come to event this past weekend. I had a
blast! (Thank you, Bellewodians!)

Lady Emeyle has learned a couple of bransles to bring home to Mag Mor,
so be sure to hit her up for those. :)  But please use the
catch-and-release program, so she can scurry back off to the pit and
play the music you need for your dancing. :)

Good luck with bringing dancing to Mag Mor! I'll be at the upcoming
Crown, and I'd be happy to join with Emeyle and play music for you, if
you'd like to try to do a little dancing at Crown.

Conna

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> Bellewode today but ended up getting sick.  I'm glad I found this
> list.  I am planning to start teaching Dance in the Barony of Mag Mor
> on Thursday and was really looking forward to the symposium giving me
> some help in that.  I do not have any music and it has been a while
> since I've danced myself.  Any suggestions on how to get a dance group
> going would be greatly appreciated.  I have looked at the links page,
> but not the archives yet.
>
> Thanks for any and all suggestions, words of advice, etc.
> Sara Sophia
>
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#955 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:31 pm
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SaraSophia,

Greetings. I"m so glad you're taking up dance leadership! I'll also be at Crown
and will be happy to share teaching techniques and lead a sample class for you.

Tsire
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#956 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:48 pm
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Thanks everyone for the greetings, advice and links. :-)  I'm not the one that
is actually spearheading dance in Mag Mor, Emelye is.  But I have volunteered to
help teach.

I will be at Crown as I'm one of the co-autocrats.  I don't know how busy I will
be during the day, but I would love to get together and talk dance as well as
get pointers on teaching.  I've only been on the student side of dance so far so
we'll see how the teaching goes.  I think we will only have 1 dance practice
before Crown, this Thursday, so things shouldn't go too wrong before Crown. :-) 
The first dance I'm teaching is a pavane.

Which does bring up a question, can you turn corners during a pavane ?  If so,
how is that worked?  Or what do you do when you get to the end of your space? 
The entire line turn around and go the other direction?

Thanks again,
Sara Sophia



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             SaraSophia,



Greetings. I"m so glad you're taking up dance leadership! I'll also be at Crown
and will be happy to share teaching techniques and lead a sample class for you.



Tsire

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#957 From: 'Merry' Toirdhealbhach Mirywoder Lutre <Merry@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:04 pm
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I am for one rather amused that Master Conrad posted that website w/o
the standard disclaimer against Hole in the Wall.   I made my case again
over supper at Bellewode, but the mean ole' Laurels just wouldn't
budge... even if it was with new more appropriate/period/etc
choreography... not even if we called it Purcell's Hornpipe so that
there was no ambiguity about which dance was being done/played.  Oh
well.    I think it's probably my love of Irish music (hornpipes being
my favorite followed by jigs and slip-jigs) and the fact that this was
the first piece I learned to play, and that I was never forced to play
it in a pit 43,342,234,345,984.7 times.  *sigh*

I'm just glad that there's so much other music to love and really enjoy.

I'd never run across these resources before and will have to transfer
them to mp3 before including them in my arsenal.  Anyone else in the
same boat that would like copies (properly attributed of course!) rather
than redo the work?


Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the greetings, advice and links. :-)  I'm not the one that
is actually spearheading dance in Mag Mor, Emelye is.  But I have volunteered to
help teach.
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> I will be at Crown as I'm one of the co-autocrats.  I don't know how busy I
will be during the day, but I would love to get together and talk dance as well
as get pointers on teaching.  I've only been on the student side of dance so far
so we'll see how the teaching goes.  I think we will only have 1 dance practice
before Crown, this Thursday, so things shouldn't go too wrong before Crown. :-) 
The first dance I'm teaching is a pavane.
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> Which does bring up a question, can you turn corners during a pavane ?  If so,
how is that worked?  Or what do you do when you get to the end of your space? 
The entire line turn around and go the other direction?
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> Thanks again,
> Sara Sophia
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#958 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:05 pm
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In my experience, you can turn a pavanne. You simply 'bend' your line before you
run out of room and do the dance in a more oval rather than linear shape. This
does mean that one partner will take larger steps as one takes smaller steps  in
order to curve the line where necessary. For preference, turn your line counter
clockwise. This creates an opportunity for the Lord to take larger steps and the
Lady to take smaller ones while curving. This seems to play well into the
dancer's natural gait tendencies as well.

I hope this helps, and keep the questions coming
Tsire


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Thanks everyone for the greetings, advice and links. :-) I'm not the one that is
actually spearheading dance in Mag Mor, Emelye is. But I have volunteered to
help teach. I will be at Crown as I'm one of the co-autocrats. I don't know how
busy I will be during the day, but I would love to get together and talk dance
as well as get pointers on teaching. I've only been on the student side of dance
so far so we'll see how the teaching goes. I think we will only have 1 dance
practice before Crown, this Thursday, so things shouldn't go too wrong before
Crown. :-) The first dance I'm teaching is a pavane.Which does bring up a
question, can you turn corners during a pavane ? If so, how is that worked? Or
what do you do when you get to the end of your space? The entire line turn
around and go the other direction?Thanks again,Sara SophiaTo:
calontirdance@...: tsire@...: Mon, 21 Apr 2008
11:31:40 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] New to this listSaraSophia,Greetings.
I"m so glad you're taking up dance leadership! I'll also be at Crown and will be
happy to share teaching techniques and lead a sample class for
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