Single = A step (first single is with left foot, second with right, etc) with
the other foot then coming together (So "Step, Together)  This should take two
beats (one for the step, and one for the Together)

Double  = Step Left, Step Right, Step Left, Bring right foot together with left.
The next double (if doing two in a row) would be Step Right, Step Left, Step
Right, Together.  This should take four beats, (one for each step and then one
to bring them together).

Hope this helps.

Ermenrich

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I would
be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
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> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)
>
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>
> Tsire
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Hi

OK this is a bit of an oddball dance

Simple Explanation
Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close
with the left.
A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)
While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's
much more upbeat

As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2
beats or 1/2 measure.
While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the
signature is different.

One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase
(the step out, step in, turn)
sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),
resist the temptation to start
the next repeat here.


Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)
The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as
English dances with 'Italian like' steps
They are not English Country Dances.

With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main
difference is that Italian steps don't
close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are
more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause
Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause
is when the turns to face are done).

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I
would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have
dance tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would
get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one
step to one beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the
pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
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> I suggest
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>
>
> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart,
come together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and
begin again. :)
>
>
>
> Tsire
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Thanks for the explanations so far.  I'm trying to get the steps to work out
with where I think it should end in the music, but keep coming up short.  And
the stuff online that I'm finding is not being very helpful.  I think I'm
looking at stuff that is too scholarly when what I need is someone that says "a
single is a step-close."  I will keep practicing it and see if I can get a speed
that matches the music.  That is always the hardest part about this for me.  I
learn the steps alone and then have to fit them to the music. :-)

Thanks again,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:00:26 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Hi



OK this is a bit of an oddball dance



Simple Explanation

Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close

with the left.

A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)

While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's

much more upbeat



As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2

beats or 1/2 measure.

While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the

signature is different.



One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase

(the step out, step in, turn)

sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),

resist the temptation to start

the next repeat here.



Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)

The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as

English dances with 'Italian like' steps

They are not English Country Dances.



With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main

difference is that Italian steps don't

close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are

more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause

Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause

is when the turns to face are done).



Conrad



-----Original Message-----

From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von

Kolmar

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I

would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)



Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...

> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500

> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

>

> Tsire,

>

> Hello there.  How are you?

>

> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have

dance tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would

get done. :-D

>

> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one

step to one beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the

pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?

>

> Thank you for your help,

> Sara Sophia

>

>

>

> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: tsire@...

> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500

> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!

>

>

>

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>

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>

> I suggest

>

>

>

> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)

>

> for Couples

>

>

>

> Single, Single, Double

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double

>

> (Both turn about to face each other)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)

>

>

>

>

>

> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.

>

> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart,

come together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and

begin again. :)

>

>

>

> Tsire

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________________

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Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)
i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically
remember.

> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)
>
> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
(2,2)
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time.  I don't
know what the difference is between it not ending right and it ending right. :-)
I'm treating the music as 4/4 time.  Sigh, all I can do is keep working on it
until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.



> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
























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http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3

the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
it starts in the middle of a repeat.

The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[Out close in close turn 2   3    4)
The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)

The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
phrase ends.

The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
melodic.
To me it has this rhythm
((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
bababamp baaa)
The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
With the second out and back being (3) and (4)

This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.

The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
out and back (just the out)
And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.

I hope that helps.

If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
the music loud enough I can try to
call it for you.

Conrad


-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time.  I
don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
ending right. :-)  I'm treating the music as 4/4 time.  Sigh, all I can
do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.



> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
























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The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia.  I am not sure if this is the same
thing, but it might help.  Or it might not.  I honestly don't know, so if
someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a completely different dance,
I would appreciate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc

Ermenrich

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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sauer, Michael F.
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help


http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3

the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
it starts in the middle of a repeat.

The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[Out close in close turn 2 3 4)
The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)

The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
phrase ends.

The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
melodic.
To me it has this rhythm
((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
bababamp baaa)
The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
With the second out and back being (3) and (4)

This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.

The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
out and back (just the out)
And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.

I hope that helps.

If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
the music loud enough I can try to
call it for you.

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I
don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can
do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
From: sauerm@...<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.

> Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)














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It is but it's the long variant and different from the one we normally
do here.



Conrad



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[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lagemann
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:16 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia. I am not sure if this is
the same thing, but it might help. Or it might not. I honestly don't
know, so if someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a
completely different dance, I would appreciate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc

Ermenrich

________________________________
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Sauer, Michael
F.
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3

the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
it starts in the middle of a repeat.

The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[Out close in close turn 2 3 4)
The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)

The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
phrase ends.

The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
melodic.
To me it has this rhythm
((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
bababamp baaa)
The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
With the second out and back being (3) and (4)

This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.

The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
out and back (just the out)
And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.

I hope that helps.

If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
the music loud enough I can try to
call it for you.

Conrad

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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
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<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia
von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I
don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can
do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
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<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
From: sauerm@... <mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.

> Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)

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That is indeed the music I am trying to dance to, but the dance steps are not
the same.  It looks like a variant of the dance I'm trying to put to the music. 
Maybe a different interpretation?

Thanks for the link though.  I keep forgetting to check YouTube for SCA dances.
:-)

Thanks,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: mlagemann@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:16:17 -0500
Subject: RE: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia.  I am not sure if this
is the same thing, but it might help.  Or it might not.  I honestly don't know,
so if someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a completely different
dance, I would appreciate it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc



Ermenrich



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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sauer, Michael F.

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3



the above is a link to a short sample of the music,

it starts in the middle of a repeat.



The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm

(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)

[Out close in close turn 2 3 4)

The next phrase is the single, single double forward.

This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.

(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)

[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)



The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second

phrase ends.



The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more

melodic.

To me it has this rhythm

((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam

bababamp baaa)

The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..

With the second out and back being (3) and (4)



This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.



The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second

out and back (just the out)

And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.



I hope that helps.



If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play

the music loud enough I can try to

call it for you.



Conrad



-----Original Message-----

From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von

Kolmar

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I

don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it

ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can

do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)



Thanks so much,

Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>

From: sauerm@...<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>

Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)



i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically



remember.



> Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)



>



> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)



>



> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)



>



> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)



>



> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)



>



> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)



>



> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)



>



> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)



>



> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner



(2,2)



>



> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)



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Well, I finally sat down and counted and guess what.  The first run through on
the mp3 is about 2 measures/bars/4 counts shorter than the rest.  No wonder I
can't get the steps to come out right the first time. :-)

Thanks for all the help everyone.  I think I've got it now. :-)

Sara Sophia



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:28:30 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> That is indeed the music I am trying to dance to, but the dance steps are not
the same.  It looks like a variant of the dance I'm trying to put to the music. 
Maybe a different interpretation?
>
> Thanks for the link though.  I keep forgetting to check YouTube for SCA
dances. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
> From: mlagemann@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:16:17 -0500
> Subject: RE: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia.  I am not sure if
this is the same thing, but it might help.  Or it might not.  I honestly don't
know, so if someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a completely
different dance, I would appreciate it.
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc
>
>
>
> Ermenrich
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sauer, Michael F.
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM
>
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
>
>
> http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3
>
>
>
> the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
>
> it starts in the middle of a repeat.
>
>
>
> The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
>
> (daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
>
> [Out close in close turn 2 3 4)
>
> The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
>
> This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
>
> (daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
>
> [lf close rig close lef righ lef close)
>
>
>
> The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
>
> phrase ends.
>
>
>
> The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
>
> melodic.
>
> To me it has this rhythm
>
> ((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
>
> bababamp baaa)
>
> The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
>
> With the second out and back being (3) and (4)
>
>
>
> This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.
>
>
>
> The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
>
> out and back (just the out)
>
> And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.
>
>
>
> I hope that helps.
>
>
>
> If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
>
> the music loud enough I can try to
>
> call it for you.
>
>
>
> Conrad
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
>
> Kolmar
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
>
>
> I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I
>
> don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
>
> ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can
>
> do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)
>
>
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> From: sauerm@...<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
>
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
>
>
> Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)
>
>
>
> i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)
>
>
>
> there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically
>
>
>
> remember.
>
>
>
> > Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Both Continue Forward a Double (4)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > (Both turn about to face each other) (0)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
>
>
> (2,2)
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
>
>
>
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Hi everyone,

I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly Bens. It was
so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from the list yesterday.
Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm on.

  Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we started,
we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll have one more
practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also poll the list for
advice/dance description interpretation.

Thanks again!

Emelye





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I have a question about Charlotte Bransle. I've read it can be danced in a
circle or in a line. How is it danced in Calontir - circle or line?

Thanks,

Emelye



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Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that we look
at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast dances in our
repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite the workout. :-)

I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was a fun
way to spend my anniversary. :-)

Sara Sophia



To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
From: boltb4@...
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens




















             Hi everyone,



I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly Bens. It was
so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from the list yesterday.
Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm on.



Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we started,
we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll have one more
practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also poll the list for
advice/dance description interpretation.



Thanks again!



Emelye



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In most of the SCA bransles are danced in a circle (with the partial
exception of horses bransle).

This is normally a function of how we set up a dance. I.e. We announce
what dance we are going to do, form

up in the called for formation, usually review the dance then ask the
musicians to start playing.



Apparently a common way to dance bransles in period was for one (or a
few ) to start a dance as the musicians started to play

and others join the line on the right as they wanted throughout the
dance. At some time during the dance, maybe as it neared

the end or as there were as many people that wanted to dance/could fit
in the space, the lead person (person on the left)

would draw the line into a near ring or even close it by taking the
person on the right's right hand.



This joining in progress for bransles is practiced in the SCA by
breaking the ring at most any point if somebody wants to join in after

The music has started.



Conrad



From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Becky Buchanan
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:31 AM
To: Calontir Dance
Subject: [CalontirDance] Question about Charlotte Bransle



I have a question about Charlotte Bransle. I've read it can be danced in
a circle or in a line. How is it danced in Calontir - circle or line?

Thanks,

Emelye

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Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also fairly
slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that
we look at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast
dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite
the workout. :-)

I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was
a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)

Sara Sophia



To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
From: boltb4@...
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens




















             Hi everyone,



I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly
Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from
the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm
on.



Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we
started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll
have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also
poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.



Thanks again!



Emelye



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Thank you! Good to know! We've been practicing Charlotte in a line, so now we
can mix it up with the circle.

Emelye

"Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...> wrote:                             In
most of the SCA bransles are danced in a circle (with the partial
  exception of horses bransle).

  This is normally a function of how we set up a dance. I.e. We announce
  what dance we are going to do, form

  up in the called for formation, usually review the dance then ask the
  musicians to start playing.

  Apparently a common way to dance bransles in period was for one (or a
  few ) to start a dance as the musicians started to play

  and others join the line on the right as they wanted throughout the
  dance. At some time during the dance, maybe as it neared

  the end or as there were as many people that wanted to dance/could fit
  in the space, the lead person (person on the left)

  would draw the line into a near ring or even close it by taking the
  person on the right's right hand.

  This joining in progress for bransles is practiced in the SCA by
  breaking the ring at most any point if somebody wants to join in after

  The music has started.

  Conrad

  From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Becky Buchanan
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: Calontir Dance
  Subject: [CalontirDance] Question about Charlotte Bransle

  I have a question about Charlotte Bransle. I've read it can be danced in
  a circle or in a line. How is it danced in Calontir - circle or line?

  Thanks,

  Emelye

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Good thought! Maybe Murdoch and I can figure this one out - Black Almain.

Found a You Tube video of it:
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vZFFMJs2e8&feature=related


Plus these instructions from Tsire . . .
   Black Alman (Couples in a line)
  Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward
   Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward  [end facing partner]
  Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner
  [turn to own L] Double Left away from partner
  [turn 180°] Double Right toward partner
  Lords step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left;
   Ladies step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left
  [take hands with partner] Double Left switching places; 4 slides up the hall
  Double Left switching places;4 slides up the hall
  Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner

   Hopefully, we can make sense of these two sources and try Black Almain next
time.

Emelye

"Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...> wrote:                            
Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also fairly
  slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.

  ----------------------------------------------------------
  --

  Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that
  we look at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast
  dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite
  the workout. :-)

  I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was
  a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)

  Sara Sophia

  To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
  From: boltb4@...
  Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
  Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens

  Hi everyone,

  I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly
  Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from
  the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm
  on.

  Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we
  started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll
  have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also
  poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.

  Thanks again!

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To clarify a bit



>[take hands with partner] Double Left switching places; 4 slides up the hall

4 slides up the hall will be to the lords right


>Double Left switching places;4 slides up the hall

The slides are again to the lords right, but this is the opposite direction as
the first 4 slides (really down the hall)



The video looks goods, but it looks like it starts 90% of the way through a
repeat with the

'Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner'

The dance really starts with the 4 doubles forward.





From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Becky Buchanan
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:55 AM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens



Good thought! Maybe Murdoch and I can figure this one out - Black Almain.

Found a You Tube video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vZFFMJs2e8&feature=related


Plus these instructions from Tsire . . .
Black Alman (Couples in a line)
Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward
Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward [end facing partner]
Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner
[turn to own L] Double Left away from partner
[turn 180°] Double Right toward partner
Lords step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left;
Ladies step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left
[take hands with partner] Double Left switching places; 4 slides up the hall
Double Left switching places;4 slides up the hall
Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner

Hopefully, we can make sense of these two sources and try Black Almain next
time.

Emelye

"Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@... <mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu> > wrote:
Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also fairly
slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.

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Emelye, you are making me blush. :-) Thank you. Might I suggest that
we look at a slow dance for next time. We seem to have quite a few fast
dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite
the workout. :-)

I had a great time last night. We have a great group of people. It was
a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)

Sara Sophia

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com <mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
From: boltb4@... <mailto:boltb4%40yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens

Hi everyone,

I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly
Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from
the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm
on.

Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we
started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll
have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also
poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.

Thanks again!

Emelye

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Thank you.  I will look at these and see which I like best.  I'm sure I'll like
them all. :-)

Sara Sophia



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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:29:32 -0500
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             Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also
fairly

slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.



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Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that

we look at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast

dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite

the workout. :-)



I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was

a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)



Sara Sophia



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From: boltb4@...

Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700

Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens



Hi everyone,



I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly

Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from

the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm

on.



Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we

started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll

have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also

poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.



Thanks again!



Emelye



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After Lilies, there will be regular, weekly dance-and-music practice
in the shire of Shadowdale, on Sunday afternoons.

We are inviting any interested participants.  We are particularly
inviting anybody who'd like to teach something.

Please contact me if you want to come by, if you want crash space, if
you want to teach, etc.

--Christian d'Hiver
   (Chris Mortika)

Hi everyone,

Sara Sophia and I were wondering what's the next easiest dance Mag Mor could
learn from the Lilies Ball list. We have one more practice before Lilies. So far
from the list, we know Carolingian Pavan and Ly Bens. Murdoch and I are going to
try to teach Black Alman. Is there another dance from the Ball list someone
could recommend? Is "My Lady Cullen" easy? I know the music is relatively slow.
Sara Sophia was looking for a slower dance. (Slower than Charlotte or Horse's
Bransle)

Here's the complete Ball list:
     Carolingian Pavan (Mag Mor knows this)
  My Lady Cullen
  Anello
  Confesse
  Villanella
  Heralds in Love

  Black Alman (Mag Mor will know this)
  Gracca Amorosa
  Heart's Ease
  Saturday Night/Sunday Morn
  Hyde Park
  Petit Vriens

  Black Nag
  Sellinger's Round
  Ly Bens Dystonis (Mag Mor knows this)
Rosti Boli Gioiso
  Picking of Sticks
  Cantiga 119 (Piantone)

Thanks for your help!  -- Emelye





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Well, TECHNICALLY the easiest dance on the list to learn is Piantone -
couples in a circle with the ladies on the outside, gentleman form a "star",
  Do pivas around the "star" to the music,  caller tells you to go up or back
one (or more) partners, or to reverse and piva the other direction, or to
switch and put the ladies to the inside of the "star". DONT STOP THE PIVA
CIRCLE AT ANY TIME.  Continue with the caller till the music is done or the
dancers have all messed up trying to find the partner that is "four back, or
six forward, or switch and one forward" and have fallen out of the dance.

Hyde Park and Confesse are both nice and slow but certain sections/verses
can be confussing to explain in print - easier to show you.  NOT my lady
cullen - its not what I would call a slow dance.  I'd have to say go for
piete riens - not particullarly slow but probably the next easiest to learn.
Or possibly hearts ease or black nag - good english country standards.

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
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From: Becky Buchanan <boltb4@...>
To: Calontir Dance <calontirdance@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 04:01:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CalontirDance] Next easiest dance from Lilies Ball?


Hi everyone,

Sara Sophia and I were wondering what's the next easiest dance Mag Mor could
learn from the Lilies Ball list. We have one more practice before Lilies. So
far from the list, we know Carolingian Pavan and Ly Bens. Murdoch and I are
going to try to teach Black Alman. Is there another dance from the Ball list
someone could recommend? Is "My Lady Cullen" easy? I know the music is
relatively slow. Sara Sophia was looking for a slower dance. (Slower than
Charlotte or Horse's Bransle)

Here's the complete Ball list:
     Carolingian Pavan (Mag Mor knows this)
  My Lady Cullen
  Anello
  Confesse
  Villanella
  Heralds in Love

  Black Alman (Mag Mor will know this)
  Gracca Amorosa
  Heart's Ease
  Saturday Night/Sunday Morn
  Hyde Park
  Petit Vriens

  Black Nag
  Sellinger's Round
  Ly Bens Dystonis (Mag Mor knows this)
Rosti Boli Gioiso
  Picking of Sticks
  Cantiga 119 (Piantone)

Thanks for your help!  -- Emelye





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My Lady Cullen is rather quick and has the added complexity of being a
progressive dance, meaning the couples will do different parts at
different times).



From the ball list I would suggest

Anello

Hearts ease

Black Nag

Petit Riens



Hearts Ease is definitely the slowest of them, petit riens the fastest.



Conrad







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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:01 AM
To: Calontir Dance


Subject: [CalontirDance] Next easiest dance from Lilies Ball?



Hi everyone,

Sara Sophia and I were wondering what's the next easiest dance Mag Mor
could learn from the Lilies Ball list. We have one more practice before
Lilies. So far from the list, we know Carolingian Pavan and Ly Bens.
Murdoch and I are going to try to teach Black Alman. Is there another
dance from the Ball list someone could recommend? Is "My Lady Cullen"
easy? I know the music is relatively slow. Sara Sophia was looking for a
slower dance. (Slower than Charlotte or Horse's Bransle)

Here's the complete Ball list:
Carolingian Pavan (Mag Mor knows this)
My Lady Cullen
Anello
Confesse
Villanella
Heralds in Love

Black Alman (Mag Mor will know this)
Gracca Amorosa
Heart's Ease
Saturday Night/Sunday Morn
Hyde Park
Petit Vriens

Black Nag
Sellinger's Round
Ly Bens Dystonis (Mag Mor knows this)
Rosti Boli Gioiso
Picking of Sticks
Cantiga 119 (Piantone)

Thanks for your help! -- Emelye



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Petit Riens! Petit Riens!!
Even _I_ can do it!
:)

Conna
nondancer

On Wednesday, May 28, 2008, at 06:01 AM, Becky Buchanan wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Sara Sophia and I were wondering what's the next easiest dance Mag Mor
> could learn from the Lilies Ball list. We have one more practice
> before Lilies. So far from the list, we know Carolingian Pavan and Ly
> Bens. Murdoch and I are going to try to teach Black Alman. Is there
> another dance from the Ball list someone could recommend? Is "My Lady
> Cullen" easy? I know the music is relatively slow. Sara Sophia was
> looking for a slower dance. (Slower than Charlotte or Horse's Bransle)
>
> Here's the complete Ball list:
> Carolingian Pavan (Mag Mor knows this)
> My Lady Cullen
> Anello
> Confesse
> Villanella
> Heralds in Love
>
> Black Alman (Mag Mor will know this)
> Gracca Amorosa
> Heart's Ease
> Saturday Night/Sunday Morn
> Hyde Park
> Petit Vriens
>
> Black Nag
> Sellinger's Round
> Ly Bens Dystonis (Mag Mor knows this)
> Rosti Boli Gioiso
> Picking of Sticks
> Cantiga 119 (Piantone)
>
> Thanks for your help! -- Emelye
>
>
>
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>
>

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Easy Dances on this list are:
Carolingian Pavanne
Anello*
Black Alman*
Hearts Ease*
Hyde Park
Petit Riense*
Sellengers Round*
Ly Bens *
Piantone
  * Sara Sophia - you did these at Crown Tourney

My suggestions are:
Anello
Black Alman
Petit Riense
Hyde Park
Keep in mind that with live music you can make any dance slow while you're
learning it. :)

Tsire







On Wednesday, May 28, 2008, at 06:01 AM, Becky Buchanan wrote:> Hi everyone,>>
Sara Sophia and I were wondering what's the next easiest dance Mag Mor > could
learn from the Lilies Ball list. We have one more practice > before Lilies. So
far from the list, we know Carolingian Pavan and Ly > Bens. Murdoch and I are
going to try to teach Black Alman. Is there > another dance from the Ball list
someone could recommend? Is "My Lady > Cullen" easy? I know the music is
relatively slow. Sara Sophia was > looking for a slower dance. (Slower than
Charlotte or Horse's Bransle)>> Here's the complete Ball list:> Carolingian
Pavan (Mag Mor knows this)> My Lady Cullen> Anello> Confesse> Villanella>
Heralds in Love>> Black Alman (Mag Mor will know this)> Gracca Amorosa> Heart's
Ease> Saturday Night/Sunday Morn> Hyde Park> Petit Vriens>> Black Nag>
Sellinger's Round> Ly Bens Dystonis (Mag Mor knows this)> Rosti Boli Gioiso>
Picking of Sticks> Cantiga 119 (Piantone)>> Thanks for your help! -- Emelye>>>>
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Thank you all for your valuable advice. This definitely gives us an idea of what
we can accomplish before Lilies. Looking forward to the Ball!

Emelye

Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:

  Easy Dances on this list are:
  Carolingian Pavanne
  Anello*
  Black Alman*
  Hearts Ease*
  Hyde Park
  Petit Riense*
  Sellengers Round*
  Ly Bens *
  Piantone
   * Sara Sophia - you did these at Crown Tourney

  My suggestions are:
  Anello
  Black Alman
  Petit Riense
  Hyde Park
  Keep in mind that with live music you can make any dance slow while you're
learning it. :)

  Tsire

  On Wednesday, May 28, 2008, at 06:01 AM, Becky Buchanan wrote:> Hi everyone,>>
Sara Sophia and I were wondering what's the next easiest dance Mag Mor > could
learn from the Lilies Ball list. We have one more practice > before Lilies. So
far from the list, we know Carolingian Pavan and Ly > Bens. Murdoch and I are
going to try to teach Black Alman. Is there > another dance from the Ball list
someone could recommend? Is "My Lady > Cullen" easy? I know the music is
relatively slow. Sara Sophia was > looking for a slower dance. (Slower than
Charlotte or Horse's Bransle)>> Here's the complete Ball list:> Carolingian
Pavan (Mag Mor knows this)> My Lady Cullen> Anello> Confesse> Villanella>
Heralds in Love>> Black Alman (Mag Mor will know this)> Gracca Amorosa> Heart's
Ease> Saturday Night/Sunday Morn> Hyde Park> Petit Vriens>> Black Nag>
Sellinger's Round> Ly Bens Dystonis (Mag Mor knows this)> Rosti Boli Gioiso>
Picking of Sticks> Cantiga 119 (Piantone)>> Thanks for your help!
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I have a question about one of your scheduled classes.
Thanks!
Ypolite
(The oh-I-so-NEVER-dance routine may die this year at Lilies as a slightly early
birthday gift to DH Günther, who is himself a dance-magic-dance man.)

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Hey Folks,

I will not be on site till Tuesday and need someone to cover my Monday afternoon
Progression Class.
Azenari will not be at the war as planned, thus, I need someone to cover the 2pm
Ball review on Wednesday as well.

Progression class requires a patient teacher of an English Country type bent.

Please e-mail me ASAP if you can cover this.

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Conrad - can we still borrow your ipod speakers for the dance classes?

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Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@...

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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx




-----Original Message-----
From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
To: "CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com" <calontirdance@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:47:23 -0500
Subject: [CalontirDance] Dance Class Coverage


Hey Folks,

I will not be on site till Tuesday and need someone to cover my Monday
afternoon Progression Class.
Azenari will not be at the war as planned, thus, I need someone to cover the
2pm Ball review on Wednesday as well.

Progression class requires a patient teacher of an English Country type
bent.

Please e-mail me ASAP if you can cover this.

Tsire



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Hello, to dancers and, particularly, those interested in period music.

At war, I promised people the give a link to the following.  I believe
it's a compilation of all the little "B-plot" snippets from an episode
of the French comedy show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHAojVyeG0

--Christian d'Hiver