--- In CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com, Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:
>
> The list does not accept attachments. You may be able to upload it
to the yahoo group site though depending on permissions. Ms. Katriona
is your resource there.

Quite correct, however any group member with a YahooID can upload
files to the group website (link at the bottom of each message)

The current settings for the group are:

Files/Photos:   Members (upload/modify/download files)
Links: 	   Members (create/modify/delete links)
Database:  Members (members can access Database feature)
Polls: 	   Members (create/modify/vote in polls)
Members:  Moderators view (moderators can view profiles/change settings)
Calendar:  Members (create/modify/delete events)
Promote:  Members (get sign-up boxes)

I can upload files for anyone who doesn't have or doesn't want a
YahooID :-)

What are people doing about music for their classes?
It suddenly occured to us last night that although we have been using the
ipod - the speakers require electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.  We
no longer have a boom box although I still have the CDs.
Does someone have a box they can loan for all the classes (Azenari, Cathus,
Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire uses an identical set up)? Or
should I go out and buy a cheapo box for lilies?

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@...

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx


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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the CalontirDance
group.

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   Uploaded by : calonkat <calonkat@...>
   Description : Dance classes for Lilies 2008

You can access this file at the URL:
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Regards,

calonkat <calonkat@...>

My Ipod box can be battery powered.



Conrad



From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rowan
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes



What are people doing about music for their classes?
It suddenly occured to us last night that although we have been using
the
ipod - the speakers require electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.
We
no longer have a boom box although I still have the CDs.
Does someone have a box they can loan for all the classes (Azenari,
Cathus,
Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire uses an identical set up)?
Or
should I go out and buy a cheapo box for lilies?

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@... <mailto:rowan%40french.toast.net>

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx

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I have a battery powered boom box and a tape deck adapted for ipod that I will
have available as well.

Tsire


To: CalontirDance@...: sauerm@...: Wed, 14 May 2008
10:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes




My Ipod box can be battery powered.ConradFrom:
CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
RowanSent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AMTo:
CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classesWhat are
people doing about music for their classes? It suddenly occured to us last night
that although we have been usingthe ipod - the speakers require electricty and
that doen't work for Lilies.We no longer have a boom box although I still have
the CDs.Does someone have a box they can loan for all the classes
(Azenari,Cathus, Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire uses an identical
set up)?Or should I go out and buy a cheapo box for lilies?HL Rowan
HoundskeeperBarony of Three Rivers, Calontirrowan@...
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I have a recorder...

katriana

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:
> I have a battery powered boom box and a tape deck adapted for ipod that I
> will have available as well.
>
> Tsire
>
> To: CalontirDance@...: sauerm@...: Wed, 14 May
> 2008 10:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes
>
> My Ipod box can be battery powered.ConradFrom:
> CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of RowanSent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AMTo:
> CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classesWhat
> are people doing about music for their classes? It suddenly occured to us
> last night that although we have been usingthe ipod - the speakers require
> electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.We no longer have a boom box
> although I still have the CDs.Does someone have a box they can loan for all
> the classes (Azenari,Cathus, Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire
> uses an identical set up)?Or should I go out and buy a cheapo box for
> lilies?HL Rowan HoundskeeperBarony of Three Rivers,
> Calontirrowan@... <mailto:rowan%40french.toast.net> "Outside of
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Thank you Conrad/Tsire.  I'll count on your boxes for ipod hookup then.
Thankyou. Thankyou.  I really didn't want to drag CDs and a box out anouther
year.
---
I have a recorder...
katriana
-----
But Mistress... I'm sure you have your own classes to teach/attend and would
conflict or wouldn't have time to attend all 10+ different dance classes
(which is how many the 4 of us are teaching)

Rowan (the totally convinced that an ipod beats hauling around CDs)

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@...

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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:
> I have a battery powered boom box and a tape deck adapted for ipod that I
> will have available as well.
>
> Tsire
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> To: CalontirDance@...: sauerm@...: Wed, 14
May
> 2008 10:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes
>
> My Ipod box can be battery powered.ConradFrom:
> CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of RowanSent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AMTo:
> CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies
classesWhat
> are people doing about music for their classes? It suddenly occured to us
> last night that although we have been usingthe ipod - the speakers require
> electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.We no longer have a boom box
> although I still have the CDs.Does someone have a box they can loan for
all
> the classes (Azenari,Cathus, Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire
> uses an identical set up)?Or should I go out and buy a cheapo box for
> lilies?HL Rowan HoundskeeperBarony of Three Rivers,
> Calontirrowan@... <mailto:rowan%40french.toast.net> "Outside
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Thanks all for the new information about the European dance classes!
I have entered all that I've received so far.

Also, I received information from Rahil (thanks Rahil!) about the
Middle Eastern dance classes and events, and that information is
entered as well.

If any of you can and wish to add some descriptive copy about a
particular class (i.e. information regarding what the class is about),
I'll be more than happy to add it if you'll send it to me (or post it
here.)

Here's the link again:
http://calontir.sca.org/lilieswar/lilies22/MusicDance/cmd_danceclasses.
html

Cheers,
Lucia

Lucia



I believe Katriana has requested to take over my Bransle Class on
Tuesday.



Also please change the skill level on the Two Italian Dances for Three
Couples

Class to intermediate



Thanks



Conrad



From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lucia_b3r
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:50 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] New additions to Liles Dance & Music webpages



Thanks all for the new information about the European dance classes!
I have entered all that I've received so far.

Also, I received information from Rahil (thanks Rahil!) about the
Middle Eastern dance classes and events, and that information is
entered as well.

If any of you can and wish to add some descriptive copy about a
particular class (i.e. information regarding what the class is about),
I'll be more than happy to add it if you'll send it to me (or post it
here.)

Here's the link again:
http://calontir.sca.org/lilieswar/lilies22/MusicDance/cmd_danceclasses.
html

Cheers,
Lucia





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Those corrections are made now, Conrad.

Lucia

--- In CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com, "Sauer, Michael F."
<sauerm@...> wrote:
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> Lucia
>
>
>
> I believe Katriana has requested to take over my Bransle Class on
> Tuesday.
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> Also please change the skill level on the Two Italian Dances for
Three
> Couples
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> Class to intermediate
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>
> Thanks
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>
> Conrad
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>
>
> From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lucia_b3r
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:50 PM
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CalontirDance] New additions to Liles Dance & Music
webpages
>
>
>
> Thanks all for the new information about the European dance
classes!
> I have entered all that I've received so far.
>
> Also, I received information from Rahil (thanks Rahil!) about the
> Middle Eastern dance classes and events, and that information is
> entered as well.
>
> If any of you can and wish to add some descriptive copy about a
> particular class (i.e. information regarding what the class is
about),
> I'll be more than happy to add it if you'll send it to me (or post
it
> here.)
>
> Here's the link again:
>
http://calontir.sca.org/lilieswar/lilies22/MusicDance/cmd_danceclasse
s.
> html
>
> Cheers,
> Lucia
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Tsire,

Hello there.  How are you?

Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D

What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?

Thank you for your help,
Sara Sophia



To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
From: tsire@...
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!






















I suggest



Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)

for Couples



Single, Single, Double

Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double

(Lord turn about to face Lady)

Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders

Both Continue Forward a Double

(Both turn about to face each other)

Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders

(Lady turn about to face head of hall)

(Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)





It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.

You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)



Tsire





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Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I would
be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
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> I suggest
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>
> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)
>
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> Tsire
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Single = A step (first single is with left foot, second with right, etc) with
the other foot then coming together (So "Step, Together)  This should take two
beats (one for the step, and one for the Together)

Double  = Step Left, Step Right, Step Left, Bring right foot together with left.
The next double (if doing two in a row) would be Step Right, Step Left, Step
Right, Together.  This should take four beats, (one for each step and then one
to bring them together).

Hope this helps.

Ermenrich

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I would
be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
>
>
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> I suggest
>
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>
> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)
>
>
>
> Tsire
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Hi

OK this is a bit of an oddball dance

Simple Explanation
Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close
with the left.
A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)
While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's
much more upbeat

As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2
beats or 1/2 measure.
While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the
signature is different.

One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase
(the step out, step in, turn)
sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),
resist the temptation to start
the next repeat here.


Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)
The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as
English dances with 'Italian like' steps
They are not English Country Dances.

With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main
difference is that Italian steps don't
close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are
more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause
Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause
is when the turns to face are done).

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I
would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have
dance tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would
get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one
step to one beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the
pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
>
>
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>
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>
> I suggest
>
>
>
> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart,
come together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and
begin again. :)
>
>
>
> Tsire
>
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for the explanations so far.  I'm trying to get the steps to work out
with where I think it should end in the music, but keep coming up short.  And
the stuff online that I'm finding is not being very helpful.  I think I'm
looking at stuff that is too scholarly when what I need is someone that says "a
single is a step-close."  I will keep practicing it and see if I can get a speed
that matches the music.  That is always the hardest part about this for me.  I
learn the steps alone and then have to fit them to the music. :-)

Thanks again,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:00:26 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Hi



OK this is a bit of an oddball dance



Simple Explanation

Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close

with the left.

A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)

While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's

much more upbeat



As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2

beats or 1/2 measure.

While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the

signature is different.



One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase

(the step out, step in, turn)

sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),

resist the temptation to start

the next repeat here.



Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)

The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as

English dances with 'Italian like' steps

They are not English Country Dances.



With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main

difference is that Italian steps don't

close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are

more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause

Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause

is when the turns to face are done).



Conrad



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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von

Kolmar

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I

would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)



Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...

> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500

> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

>

> Tsire,

>

> Hello there.  How are you?

>

> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have

dance tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would

get done. :-D

>

> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one

step to one beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the

pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?

>

> Thank you for your help,

> Sara Sophia

>

>

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> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)

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> Single, Single, Double

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> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double

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> (Lord turn about to face Lady)

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> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders

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> Both Continue Forward a Double

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> (Both turn about to face each other)

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> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders

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> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)

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> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

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> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)

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Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)
i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically
remember.

> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)
>
> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
(2,2)
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time.  I don't
know what the difference is between it not ending right and it ending right. :-)
I'm treating the music as 4/4 time.  Sigh, all I can do is keep working on it
until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.



> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
























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http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3

the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
it starts in the middle of a repeat.

The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[Out close in close turn 2   3    4)
The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)

The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
phrase ends.

The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
melodic.
To me it has this rhythm
((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
bababamp baaa)
The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
With the second out and back being (3) and (4)

This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.

The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
out and back (just the out)
And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.

I hope that helps.

If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
the music loud enough I can try to
call it for you.

Conrad


-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time.  I
don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
ending right. :-)  I'm treating the music as 4/4 time.  Sigh, all I can
do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.



> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
























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The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia.  I am not sure if this is the same
thing, but it might help.  Or it might not.  I honestly don't know, so if
someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a completely different dance,
I would appreciate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc

Ermenrich

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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sauer, Michael F.
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help


http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3

the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
it starts in the middle of a repeat.

The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[Out close in close turn 2 3 4)
The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)

The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
phrase ends.

The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
melodic.
To me it has this rhythm
((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
bababamp baaa)
The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
With the second out and back being (3) and (4)

This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.

The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
out and back (just the out)
And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.

I hope that helps.

If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
the music loud enough I can try to
call it for you.

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I
don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can
do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
From: sauerm@...<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.

> Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)














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It is but it's the long variant and different from the one we normally
do here.



Conrad



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[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lagemann
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:16 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia. I am not sure if this is
the same thing, but it might help. Or it might not. I honestly don't
know, so if someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a
completely different dance, I would appreciate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc

Ermenrich

________________________________
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Sauer, Michael
F.
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3

the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
it starts in the middle of a repeat.

The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[Out close in close turn 2 3 4)
The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)

The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
phrase ends.

The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
melodic.
To me it has this rhythm
((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
bababamp baaa)
The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
With the second out and back being (3) and (4)

This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.

The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
out and back (just the out)
And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.

I hope that helps.

If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
the music loud enough I can try to
call it for you.

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia
von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I
don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can
do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
From: sauerm@... <mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.

> Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)

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That is indeed the music I am trying to dance to, but the dance steps are not
the same.  It looks like a variant of the dance I'm trying to put to the music. 
Maybe a different interpretation?

Thanks for the link though.  I keep forgetting to check YouTube for SCA dances.
:-)

Thanks,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: mlagemann@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:16:17 -0500
Subject: RE: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia.  I am not sure if this
is the same thing, but it might help.  Or it might not.  I honestly don't know,
so if someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a completely different
dance, I would appreciate it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc



Ermenrich



________________________________

From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sauer, Michael F.

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3



the above is a link to a short sample of the music,

it starts in the middle of a repeat.



The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm

(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)

[Out close in close turn 2 3 4)

The next phrase is the single, single double forward.

This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.

(daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)

[lf close rig close lef righ lef close)



The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second

phrase ends.



The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more

melodic.

To me it has this rhythm

((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam

bababamp baaa)

The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..

With the second out and back being (3) and (4)



This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.



The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second

out and back (just the out)

And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.



I hope that helps.



If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play

the music loud enough I can try to

call it for you.



Conrad



-----Original Message-----

From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von

Kolmar

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I

don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it

ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can

do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)



Thanks so much,

Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>

From: sauerm@...<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>

Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)



i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically



remember.



> Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)



>



> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)



>



> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)



>



> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)



>



> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)



>



> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)



>



> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)



>



> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)



>



> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner



(2,2)



>



> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)



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Well, I finally sat down and counted and guess what.  The first run through on
the mp3 is about 2 measures/bars/4 counts shorter than the rest.  No wonder I
can't get the steps to come out right the first time. :-)

Thanks for all the help everyone.  I think I've got it now. :-)

Sara Sophia



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:28:30 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
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> That is indeed the music I am trying to dance to, but the dance steps are not
the same.  It looks like a variant of the dance I'm trying to put to the music. 
Maybe a different interpretation?
>
> Thanks for the link though.  I keep forgetting to check YouTube for SCA
dances. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
> From: mlagemann@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:16:17 -0500
> Subject: RE: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
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>
>
>             The following is billed at Ly Bens Dystonia.  I am not sure if
this is the same thing, but it might help.  Or it might not.  I honestly don't
know, so if someone could correct me if I just sent a link to a completely
different dance, I would appreciate it.
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHs4JXxzygc
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>
>
> Ermenrich
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>
>
> ________________________________
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> From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sauer, Michael F.
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:10 PM
>
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
>
>
> http://www.dragonscaleconsort.com/samples/lybens.mp3
>
>
>
> the above is a link to a short sample of the music,
>
> it starts in the middle of a repeat.
>
>
>
> The first full phrase is the out, in and turn. To me it has this rhythm
>
> (daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
>
> [Out close in close turn 2 3 4)
>
> The next phrase is the single, single double forward.
>
> This essentially sounds like a repeat of the same music.
>
> (daaa daa dada daa, daaa daa dada daa)
>
> [lf close rig close lef righ lef close)
>
>
>
> The little slider should be just past halfway over when the second
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> phrase ends.
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>
>
> The next phrase is the away a double and pack phrase. To me it's more
>
> melodic.
>
> To me it has this rhythm
>
> ((1)Bambaba baaaa ba, (2)baa baa baa baa - (3)Bambaba baaaa ba, (4)bam
>
> bababamp baaa)
>
> The double out is measure(1), the double back, measure(2)..
>
> With the second out and back being (3) and (4)
>
>
>
> This takes up 2/3 of what time is left.
>
>
>
> The last part of the music in this cut is the first half of the second
>
> out and back (just the out)
>
> And the music starts to fade out at the beginning of this part.
>
>
>
> I hope that helps.
>
>
>
> If you can't get it you can call me after 5 at 314 229-9687 and can play
>
> the music loud enough I can try to
>
> call it for you.
>
>
>
> Conrad
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
>
> Kolmar
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM
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> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
>
>
> I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time. I
>
> don't know what the difference is between it not ending right and it
>
> ending right. :-) I'm treating the music as 4/4 time. Sigh, all I can
>
> do is keep working on it until 7 tonight. :-)
>
>
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> From: sauerm@...<mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu>
>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
>
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
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>
>
> Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)
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>
>
> i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)
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>
>
> there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically
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>
>
> remember.
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>
>
> > Single, Single, Double (2,2,4)
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> >
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> > Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)
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> >
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> > (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)
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> >
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> > Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders (4)
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> >
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> > Both Continue Forward a Double (4)
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>
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> >
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>
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> > (Both turn about to face each other) (0)
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> >
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> > Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)
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>
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> >
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>
>
> > (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)
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>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
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> (2,2)
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> >
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> > Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
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Hi everyone,

I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly Bens. It was
so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from the list yesterday.
Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm on.

  Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we started,
we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll have one more
practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also poll the list for
advice/dance description interpretation.

Thanks again!

Emelye





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I have a question about Charlotte Bransle. I've read it can be danced in a
circle or in a line. How is it danced in Calontir - circle or line?

Thanks,

Emelye



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Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that we look
at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast dances in our
repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite the workout. :-)

I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was a fun
way to spend my anniversary. :-)

Sara Sophia



To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
From: boltb4@...
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens




















             Hi everyone,



I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly Bens. It was
so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from the list yesterday.
Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm on.



Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we started,
we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll have one more
practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also poll the list for
advice/dance description interpretation.



Thanks again!



Emelye



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In most of the SCA bransles are danced in a circle (with the partial
exception of horses bransle).

This is normally a function of how we set up a dance. I.e. We announce
what dance we are going to do, form

up in the called for formation, usually review the dance then ask the
musicians to start playing.



Apparently a common way to dance bransles in period was for one (or a
few ) to start a dance as the musicians started to play

and others join the line on the right as they wanted throughout the
dance. At some time during the dance, maybe as it neared

the end or as there were as many people that wanted to dance/could fit
in the space, the lead person (person on the left)

would draw the line into a near ring or even close it by taking the
person on the right's right hand.



This joining in progress for bransles is practiced in the SCA by
breaking the ring at most any point if somebody wants to join in after

The music has started.



Conrad



From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Becky Buchanan
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:31 AM
To: Calontir Dance
Subject: [CalontirDance] Question about Charlotte Bransle



I have a question about Charlotte Bransle. I've read it can be danced in
a circle or in a line. How is it danced in Calontir - circle or line?

Thanks,

Emelye

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Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also fairly
slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that
we look at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast
dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite
the workout. :-)

I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was
a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)

Sara Sophia



To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
From: boltb4@...
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens




















             Hi everyone,



I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly
Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from
the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm
on.



Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we
started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll
have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also
poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.



Thanks again!



Emelye



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Thank you! Good to know! We've been practicing Charlotte in a line, so now we
can mix it up with the circle.

Emelye

"Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...> wrote:                             In
most of the SCA bransles are danced in a circle (with the partial
  exception of horses bransle).

  This is normally a function of how we set up a dance. I.e. We announce
  what dance we are going to do, form

  up in the called for formation, usually review the dance then ask the
  musicians to start playing.

  Apparently a common way to dance bransles in period was for one (or a
  few ) to start a dance as the musicians started to play

  and others join the line on the right as they wanted throughout the
  dance. At some time during the dance, maybe as it neared

  the end or as there were as many people that wanted to dance/could fit
  in the space, the lead person (person on the left)

  would draw the line into a near ring or even close it by taking the
  person on the right's right hand.

  This joining in progress for bransles is practiced in the SCA by
  breaking the ring at most any point if somebody wants to join in after

  The music has started.

  Conrad

  From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Becky Buchanan
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: Calontir Dance
  Subject: [CalontirDance] Question about Charlotte Bransle

  I have a question about Charlotte Bransle. I've read it can be danced in
  a circle or in a line. How is it danced in Calontir - circle or line?

  Thanks,

  Emelye

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Good thought! Maybe Murdoch and I can figure this one out - Black Almain.

Found a You Tube video of it:
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vZFFMJs2e8&feature=related


Plus these instructions from Tsire . . .
   Black Alman (Couples in a line)
  Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward
   Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward  [end facing partner]
  Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner
  [turn to own L] Double Left away from partner
  [turn 180ｰ] Double Right toward partner
  Lords step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left;
   Ladies step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left
  [take hands with partner] Double Left switching places; 4 slides up the hall
  Double Left switching places;4 slides up the hall
  Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner

   Hopefully, we can make sense of these two sources and try Black Almain next
time.

Emelye

"Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...> wrote:                            
Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also fairly
  slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.

  ----------------------------------------------------------
  --

  Emelye, you are making me blush. :-)  Thank you.  Might I suggest that
  we look at a slow dance for next time.  We seem to have quite a few fast
  dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite
  the workout. :-)

  I had a great time last night.  We have a great group of people.  It was
  a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)

  Sara Sophia

  To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
  From: boltb4@...
  Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
  Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens

  Hi everyone,

  I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly
  Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from
  the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm
  on.

  Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we
  started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll
  have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also
  poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.

  Thanks again!

  Emelye

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To clarify a bit



>[take hands with partner] Double Left switching places; 4 slides up the hall

4 slides up the hall will be to the lords right


>Double Left switching places;4 slides up the hall

The slides are again to the lords right, but this is the opposite direction as
the first 4 slides (really down the hall)



The video looks goods, but it looks like it starts 90% of the way through a
repeat with the

'Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner'

The dance really starts with the 4 doubles forward.





From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Becky Buchanan
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:55 AM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens



Good thought! Maybe Murdoch and I can figure this one out - Black Almain.

Found a You Tube video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vZFFMJs2e8&feature=related


Plus these instructions from Tsire . . .
Black Alman (Couples in a line)
Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward
Double Left Forward; Double Right Forward [end facing partner]
Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner
[turn to own L] Double Left away from partner
[turn 180ｰ] Double Right toward partner
Lords step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left;
Ladies step Left, step Right; circle Left, Right Left
[take hands with partner] Double Left switching places; 4 slides up the hall
Double Left switching places;4 slides up the hall
Double Left backing away from partner; Double Right toward partner

Hopefully, we can make sense of these two sources and try Black Almain next
time.

Emelye

"Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@... <mailto:sauerm%40missouri.edu> > wrote:
Perhaps Black Almain or Contrapasso in Due would, Amoroso is also fairly
slow as is Chestnut for an ECD.

----------------------------------------------------------
--

Emelye, you are making me blush. :-) Thank you. Might I suggest that
we look at a slow dance for next time. We seem to have quite a few fast
dances in our repertoire and when we run through them all, we get quite
the workout. :-)

I had a great time last night. We have a great group of people. It was
a fun way to spend my anniversary. :-)

Sara Sophia

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com <mailto:calontirdance%40yahoogroups.com>
From: boltb4@... <mailto:boltb4%40yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:55:55 -0700
Subject: [CalontirDance] Gotta brag about Ly Bens

Hi everyone,

I just have to brag on Sara Sophia doing a fabulous job teaching Ly
Bens. It was so much fun! I noticed she received a lot of guidance from
the list yesterday. Thank you! This is by far my favorite List that I'm
on.

Our dance group keeps growing and growing each week. The first week we
started, we had 6 participants. Last night we had a total of 12! We'll
have one more practice before Lilies. Between now and then, I might also
poll the list for advice/dance description interpretation.

Thanks again!

Emelye

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