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#1028 From: "Christopher Mortika" <c.mortika@...>
Date: Fri May 9, 2008 10:53 am
Subject: Re:Horse's Bransle
chris_mortika
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So, what's wrong with "Horse's Bransle"?  (Well, other than the
possibility that it might be deadly dull?)

For what it's worth, I came up with a variation of Horse's that we
kind of liked.

(THIS IS AN A-HISTORIC CHANGE TO THE DANCE!!)

The second part of the dance (Stamp-stamp, single R, turn L with
double L) is interesting enough.  But the first part (double L, double
R until even the mildly autistic dancers get bored) is just tedious.

So, here's what we did.

The first double L double R is as normal.

The second time, the lead couple does ...something... and back. They
might do three little kicks at the end.  It can be a diagonal, double
L and back out, and then R and back in.  It can be a double L and
switch places, and then a double R and switch back.  It can be a turn
L with a clap at the end, Korobushka-style. Whatever. Something.

The third time, they repeat their move, and the second couple follows suit.

The fourth time, al three couples dance the variation.

Since the lead man changes each time, there are new ideas about what
to do.  That first double L, double R is usually spent in hurried
negotiations.  The lead woman needs to be pretty on-her-toes.

--Christian

#1029 From: Becky Buchanan <boltb4@...>
Date: Fri May 9, 2008 11:59 am
Subject: Re: Re:Horse's Bransle
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That sounds interesting. We might try the "Hurried Negotiations" variant when we
get more advanced. Regarding the "Korbushka clap,"  one of the other members of
the Barony is supposed to teach Korbushka next time. She's from the Outlands and
apparently, they danced Korbushka frequently out there. I can hear a "Korbushka
clap" when I'm playing music, but I'm usually not looking up enough from the
music to register a visual. That shall soon change.

Emelye

Christopher Mortika <c.mortika@...> wrote:                             So,
what's wrong with "Horse's Bransle"?  (Well, other than the
  possibility that it might be deadly dull?)

  For what it's worth, I came up with a variation of Horse's that we
  kind of liked.

  (THIS IS AN A-HISTORIC CHANGE TO THE DANCE!!)

  The second part of the dance (Stamp-stamp, single R, turn L with
  double L) is interesting enough.  But the first part (double L, double
  R until even the mildly autistic dancers get bored) is just tedious.

  So, here's what we did.

  The first double L double R is as normal.

  The second time, the lead couple does ...something... and back. They
  might do three little kicks at the end.  It can be a diagonal, double
  L and back out, and then R and back in.  It can be a double L and
  switch places, and then a double R and switch back.  It can be a turn
  L with a clap at the end, Korobushka-style. Whatever. Something.

  The third time, they repeat their move, and the second couple follows suit.

  The fourth time, al three couples dance the variation.

  Since the lead man changes each time, there are new ideas about what
  to do.  That first double L, double R is usually spent in hurried
  negotiations.  The lead woman needs to be pretty on-her-toes.

  --Christian





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#1030 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Fri May 9, 2008 10:43 pm
Subject: RE: Re:Horse's Bransle
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Emelye

There is indeed nothing wrong with Horses Bransle it's just not built for the
short of attention span like myself.

The Stupid Squire Shuffle is Ly Bens Dystonis

Re Korobushka:
I (and many others who may speak on thier own) have been working for a long time
to get this 1920's broadway take on a Russian folk dance out of the popular
vernacular of the European Dancer in Calontir and the Known World. Adding it to
your local repertoire and introducing it to new folks debilitates a cause near
and dear to me. While it is indeed and enjoyable dance, it has about as much to
do with living history of our period as the Electric Slide. Please consider this
before deciding to add it to your repertoire.

Tsire


To: CalontirDance@...: boltb4@...: Fri, 9 May 2008
04:59:56 -0700Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Re:Horse's Bransle




That sounds interesting. We might try the "Hurried Negotiations" variant when we
get more advanced. Regarding the "Korbushka clap," one of the other members of
the Barony is supposed to teach Korbushka next time. She's from the Outlands and
apparently, they danced Korbushka frequently out there. I can hear a "Korbushka
clap" when I'm playing music, but I'm usually not looking up enough from the
music to register a visual. That shall soon change. EmelyeChristopher Mortika
<c.mortika@...> wrote: So, what's wrong with "Horse's Bransle"? (Well,
other than thepossibility that it might be deadly dull?)For what it's worth, I
came up with a variation of Horse's that wekind of liked.(THIS IS AN A-HISTORIC
CHANGE TO THE DANCE!!)The second part of the dance (Stamp-stamp, single R, turn
L withdouble L) is interesting enough. But the first part (double L, doubleR
until even the mildly autistic dancers get bored) is just tedious.So, here's
what we did.The first double L double R is as normal.The second time, the lead
couple does ...something... and back. Theymight do three little kicks at the
end. It can be a diagonal, doubleL and back out, and then R and back in. It can
be a double L andswitch places, and then a double R and switch back. It can be a
turnL with a clap at the end, Korobushka-style. Whatever. Something.The third
time, they repeat their move, and the second couple follows suit.The fourth
time, al three couples dance the variation.Since the lead man changes each time,
there are new ideas about whatto do. That first double L, double R is usually
spent in hurriednegotiations. The lead woman needs to be pretty
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#1031 From: Becky Buchanan <boltb4@...>
Date: Sat May 10, 2008 11:28 am
Subject: RE: Re:Horse's Bransle
emelye_tayte
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OK Tsire  - you make a good point with Korbushka. The Stupid Squire Dance/Ly
Bens shall replace Korbushka for next dance practice. I was trying to fill up
time with Korbushka since we don't know that many dances and one of our members
already knew it. Sara Sophia couldn't make it last time to teach the new dances
you taught her at Crown. Murdoch led ALL the dances in her place though. He even
told the group how much dancing helps with footwork, which thereby improves
fighting technique!

Also, my friend, who used to live in the Outlands (Unser Hafen), said she used
to dance something called a "Circle Waltz." I asked her to hum the tune. She
couldn't remember it, but said it sounded like something you'd hear in a Chinese
restaurant. Do you know what she could be talking about?

  Thanks,

Emelye



Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:                             Emelye

  There is indeed nothing wrong with Horses Bransle it's just not built for the
short of attention span like myself.

  The Stupid Squire Shuffle is Ly Bens Dystonis

  Re Korobushka:
  I (and many others who may speak on thier own) have been working for a long
time to get this 1920's broadway take on a Russian folk dance out of the popular
vernacular of the European Dancer in Calontir and the Known World. Adding it to
your local repertoire and introducing it to new folks debilitates a cause near
and dear to me. While it is indeed and enjoyable dance, it has about as much to
do with living history of our period as the Electric Slide. Please consider this
before deciding to add it to your repertoire.

  Tsire

  To: CalontirDance@...: boltb4@...: Fri, 9 May 2008
04:59:56 -0700Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Re:Horse's Bransle

  That sounds interesting. We might try the "Hurried Negotiations" variant when
we get more advanced. Regarding the "Korbushka clap," one of the other members
of the Barony is supposed to teach Korbushka next time. She's from the Outlands
and apparently, they danced Korbushka frequently out there. I can hear a
"Korbushka clap" when I'm playing music, but I'm usually not looking up enough
from the music to register a visual. That shall soon change. EmelyeChristopher
Mortika <c.mortika@...> wrote: So, what's wrong with "Horse's Bransle"?
(Well, other than thepossibility that it might be deadly dull?)For what it's
worth, I came up with a variation of Horse's that wekind of liked.(THIS IS AN
A-HISTORIC CHANGE TO THE DANCE!!)The second part of the dance (Stamp-stamp,
single R, turn L withdouble L) is interesting enough. But the first part (double
L, doubleR until even the mildly autistic dancers get bored) is just tedious.So,
here's what we did.The first double L double R
  is as normal.The second time, the lead couple does ...something... and back.
Theymight do three little kicks at the end. It can be a diagonal, doubleL and
back out, and then R and back in. It can be a double L andswitch places, and
then a double R and switch back. It can be a turnL with a clap at the end,
Korobushka-style. Whatever. Something.The third time, they repeat their move,
and the second couple follows suit.The fourth time, al three couples dance the
variation.Since the lead man changes each time, there are new ideas about whatto
do. That first double L, double R is usually spent in hurriednegotiations. The
lead woman needs to be pretty
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#1032 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Sat May 10, 2008 1:38 pm
Subject: RE: Dance suggestions (was Horse's Bransle)
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Emelye,

I understand where you're coming from. Thanks to you and to Murdoch for putting
so much energy into this. I hope that your friend will continue to explore
period dancing while she is in Calontir.
As for the Circle Waltz....it's most likely a Laendler. The Laendler is a
polka/waltz country dance style that formalized over time into the waltz we know
today. Documentation and woodcuts presumably depicting this dance appear to be
from the 1800's or later. The interesting trivia about this one is that those
who did it in the SCA used the same music and polka waltz chorography that you
can see bits and pieces of in the father daughter dance and ballroom scenes of
the movie The Sound of Music. Extra out of period bonus points there - folk
dance, 1800's, AND from a movie! WOW! :)

Keep up the good work guys!
Tsire


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#1033 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Sat May 10, 2008 9:47 pm
Subject: RE: Re:Horse's Bransle
ebrakhage
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Emelye,

I'm sorry I didn't make it last time.  Playdate plans got changed too late for
me to make other arrangements for Nathaniel.  Next time I may just try bringing
a 6 year old and see if he likes dance. :-D

I will try to have Ly Bens worked up for next time. :-)  I learned so many
dances at Crown, I'm not sure I can remember them all. :-)

Sara Sophia



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From: boltb4@...
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:28:41 -0700
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re:Horse's Bransle




















             OK Tsire  - you make a good point with Korbushka. The Stupid Squire
Dance/Ly Bens shall replace Korbushka for next dance practice. I was trying to
fill up time with Korbushka since we don't know that many dances and one of our
members already knew it. Sara Sophia couldn't make it last time to teach the new
dances you taught her at Crown. Murdoch led ALL the dances in her place though.
He even told the group how much dancing helps with footwork, which thereby
improves fighting technique!



Also, my friend, who used to live in the Outlands (Unser Hafen), said she used
to dance something called a "Circle Waltz." I asked her to hum the tune. She
couldn't remember it, but said it sounded like something you'd hear in a Chinese
restaurant. Do you know what she could be talking about?



Thanks,



Emelye



Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:                             Emelye



  There is indeed nothing wrong with Horses Bransle it's just not built for the
short of attention span like myself.



  The Stupid Squire Shuffle is Ly Bens Dystonis



  Re Korobushka:

  I (and many others who may speak on thier own) have been working for a long
time to get this 1920's broadway take on a Russian folk dance out of the popular
vernacular of the European Dancer in Calontir and the Known World. Adding it to
your local repertoire and introducing it to new folks debilitates a cause near
and dear to me. While it is indeed and enjoyable dance, it has about as much to
do with living history of our period as the Electric Slide. Please consider this
before deciding to add it to your repertoire.



  Tsire



  To: CalontirDance@...: boltb4@...: Fri, 9 May 2008
04:59:56 -0700Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Re:Horse's Bransle



  That sounds interesting. We might try the "Hurried Negotiations" variant when
we get more advanced. Regarding the "Korbushka clap," one of the other members
of the Barony is supposed to teach Korbushka next time. She's from the Outlands
and apparently, they danced Korbushka frequently out there. I can hear a
"Korbushka clap" when I'm playing music, but I'm usually not looking up enough
from the music to register a visual. That shall soon change. EmelyeChristopher
Mortika <c.mortika@...> wrote: So, what's wrong with "Horse's Bransle"?
(Well, other than thepossibility that it might be deadly dull?)For what it's
worth, I came up with a variation of Horse's that wekind of liked.(THIS IS AN
A-HISTORIC CHANGE TO THE DANCE!!)The second part of the dance (Stamp-stamp,
single R, turn L withdouble L) is interesting enough. But the first part (double
L, doubleR until even the mildly autistic dancers get bored) is just tedious.So,
here's what we did.The first double L double R

  is as normal.The second time, the lead couple does ...something... and back.
Theymight do three little kicks at the end. It can be a diagonal, doubleL and
back out, and then R and back in. It can be a double L andswitch places, and
then a double R and switch back. It can be a turnL with a clap at the end,
Korobushka-style. Whatever. Something.The third time, they repeat their move,
and the second couple follows suit.The fourth time, al three couples dance the
variation.Since the lead man changes each time, there are new ideas about whatto
do. That first double L, double R is usually spent in hurriednegotiations. The
lead woman needs to be pretty
on-her-toes.--Christian---------------------------------Be a better friend,
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#1034 From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
Date: Tue May 13, 2008 9:29 pm
Subject: Finished dance list for Lilies.
kell100312
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I want to start off by saying thankyou to everyone that is teaching this year at
Lilies!  I know that it is going to be a great summer for dance and fun.
Attached is the completed dance class list as was comunicated to the Lilies
staff.  A few minor adjustments had to be made as some things needed to be held
at the perminant shelter as well.  Please look it over.  Thanks again, and I
will see you there!  Helena.



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#1035 From: "Barbara Krege" <krege@...>
Date: Tue May 13, 2008 10:07 pm
Subject: attachment? RE: Finished dance list for Lilies.
ladybarbara_...
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Would you please resend the attachment--I didn't receive it with this email.

Thanks, Jayne


-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Debbie Sullentrup
Sent: Tue 5/13/2008 3:29 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] Finished dance list for Lilies.

I want to start off by saying thankyou to everyone that is teaching this year at
Lilies!  I know that it is going to be a great summer for dance and fun.
Attached is the completed dance class list as was comunicated to the Lilies
staff.  A few minor adjustments had to be made as some things needed to be held
at the perminant shelter as well.  Please look it over.  Thanks again, and I
will see you there!  Helena.



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#1036 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Tue May 13, 2008 10:25 pm
Subject: RE: attachment? RE: Finished dance list for Lilies.
tsire@...
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The list does not accept attachments. You may be able to upload it to the yahoo
group site though depending on permissions. Ms. Katriona is your resource there.

Lucia - Helena - talk to each other about the dance website and any information
needed please.

Tsire


To: CalontirDance@...: krege@...: Tue, 13 May 2008
16:07:47 -0600Subject: [CalontirDance] attachment? RE: Finished dance list for
Lilies.




Would you please resend the attachment--I didn't receive it with this
email.Thanks, Jayne-----Original Message-----From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
on behalf of Debbie SullentrupSent: Tue 5/13/2008 3:29 PMTo:
CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Finished dance list for
Lilies.I want to start off by saying thankyou to everyone that is teaching this
year at Lilies! I know that it is going to be a great summer for dance and fun.
Attached is the completed dance class list as was comunicated to the Lilies
staff. A few minor adjustments had to be made as some things needed to be held
at the perminant shelter as well. Please look it over. Thanks again, and I will
see you there! Helena.[Non-text portions of this message have been
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#1037 From: "lucia_b3r" <Starr.Mahoney@...>
Date: Tue May 13, 2008 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Finished dance list for Lilies.
lucia_b3r
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Helena, is there a chance you could mail me the attachment
directly??  I'd love to be able to pick up all the dance & music
class info from it.

Thanks,
Lucia

--- In CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com, Debbie Sullentrup
<kell100312@...> wrote:
>
> I want to start off by saying thankyou to everyone that is
teaching this year at Lilies!  I know that it is going to be a great
summer for dance and fun. Attached is the completed dance class list
as was comunicated to the Lilies staff.  A few minor adjustments had
to be made as some things needed to be held at the perminant shelter
as well.  Please look it over.  Thanks again, and I will see you
there!  Helena.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#1038 From: Chris Lewis <pretzelbear@...>
Date: Tue May 13, 2008 10:49 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Finished dance list for Lilies.
chrisl376
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She's in class right now, but I'll mention it tonight or in the morning to
her :-)



-Roberto



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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of lucia_b3r
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:39 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] Re: Finished dance list for Lilies.



Helena, is there a chance you could mail me the attachment
directly?? I'd love to be able to pick up all the dance & music
class info from it.

Thanks,
Lucia

--- In CalontirDance@ <mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Debbie Sullentrup
<kell100312@...> wrote:
>
> I want to start off by saying thankyou to everyone that is
teaching this year at Lilies! I know that it is going to be a great
summer for dance and fun. Attached is the completed dance class list
as was comunicated to the Lilies staff. A few minor adjustments had
to be made as some things needed to be held at the perminant shelter
as well. Please look it over. Thanks again, and I will see you
there! Helena.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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#1039 From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 1:08 am
Subject: RE: Re: Finished dance list for Lilies.
kell100312
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I am sorry, I was unaware that they group did not transfer attachments.  I will
try to cut and paste it on the actuall email.

                        MON  WED  FRI  SAT    1  The Odd Itialians  Ball Review 
Balli  Itallian for Beginners       Intermediate  Various  Basic  Basic      
Her Ladyship Rowan Houndskeeper of Three Rivers  Their Ladyships Rowan and Tsiri
Her Ladyship Tsire Tuzevo  Lady Ingeborg Ulfsdottir       European Dance 
Requests from the Ball List  European Dance  European Dance    2  English
Country for Three Couples  Ball Review  Cascaide  Flirting Dances       Basic 
Various  Intermediate  Intermediate       Lady Arina  Their Ladyships Rowan and
Tsiri  Her Ladyship Tsire Tuzevo  Lady Azenari Basandere        European Dance 
Requests from the Ball List  European Dance  European Dance    3  Progressions 
Ball Review  Two Italian Dances for Three Couples  Progressions       Basic 
Various  Advanced  Basic       Her Ladyship Tsire Tuzevo  Their Ladyships Rowan
and Tsiri  Master Conrad Martin von Kassel   Lady Alessandra de Piro       
European Dance  Requests from the Ball List
  European Dance  European Dance
                   TUE    11  English Country Square Dances       Basic       Her
Ladyship Rowan Houndskeeper of Three Rivers       European Dance    12 
Beginning English Country Dances       Basic       Lord Ermenrich von Duisberg
European Dance    2  Bransles       Basic       Master Conrad Martin von Kassel
European Dance                  THUR    11  New English Country Dances      
Basic       His Lordship Cathus the Curious        European Dance    12  English
Country for Three Couples       Basic       Lady Arina       European Dance    2
Bassa       Intermediate       His Lordship Cathus the Curious        European
Dance



Chris Lewis <pretzelbear@...> wrote:
           She's in class right now, but I'll mention it tonight or in the
morning to
her :-)

-Roberto

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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of lucia_b3r
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:39 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] Re: Finished dance list for Lilies.

Helena, is there a chance you could mail me the attachment
directly?? I'd love to be able to pick up all the dance & music
class info from it.

Thanks,
Lucia

--- In CalontirDance@ <mailto:CalontirDance%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Debbie Sullentrup
<kell100312@...> wrote:
>
> I want to start off by saying thankyou to everyone that is
teaching this year at Lilies! I know that it is going to be a great
summer for dance and fun. Attached is the completed dance class list
as was comunicated to the Lilies staff. A few minor adjustments had
to be made as some things needed to be held at the perminant shelter
as well. Please look it over. Thanks again, and I will see you
there! Helena.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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#1040 From: Chris Lewis <pretzelbear@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 1:22 am
Subject: For Helena
chrisl376
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Helena's paste didn't keep the spreadsheet format.  Here is my attempt at
getting this across.  If you can't read it let one of us know and we'll send
it out direct to whomever wants it.



-Roberto








MON

WED

FRI

SAT


1

The Odd Itialians

Ball Review

Balli

Itallian for Beginners




Intermediate

Various

Basic

Basic




Her Ladyship Rowan Houndskeeper of Three Rivers

Their Ladyships Rowan and Tsiri

Her Ladyship Tsire Tuzevo

Lady Ingeborg Ulfsdottir




European Dance

Requests from the Ball List

European Dance

European Dance


2

English Country for Three Couples

Ball Review

Cascaide

Flirting Dances




Basic

Various

Intermediate

Intermediate




Lady Arina

Their Ladyships Rowan and Tsiri

Her Ladyship Tsire Tuzevo

Lady Azenari Basandere




European Dance

Requests from the Ball List

European Dance

European Dance


3

Progressions

Ball Review

Two Italian Dances for Three Couples

Progressions




Basic

Various

Advanced

Basic




Her Ladyship Tsire Tuzevo

Their Ladyships Rowan and Tsiri

Master Conrad Martin von Kassel

Lady Alessandra de Piro




European Dance

Requests from the Ball List

European Dance

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TUE








11

English Country Square Dances










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Her Ladyship Rowan Houndskeeper of Three Rivers










European Dance








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Beginning English Country Dances










Basic










Lord Ermenrich von Duisberg










European Dance








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Bransles










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Master Conrad Martin von Kassel










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His Lordship Cathus the Curious










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Lady Arina










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Bassa










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#1041 From: "Katriana" <calonkat@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 3:36 am
Subject: Re: attachment? RE: Finished dance list for Lilies.
calonkat
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--- In CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com, Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:
>
> The list does not accept attachments. You may be able to upload it
to the yahoo group site though depending on permissions. Ms. Katriona
is your resource there.

Quite correct, however any group member with a YahooID can upload
files to the group website (link at the bottom of each message)

The current settings for the group are:

Files/Photos:   Members (upload/modify/download files)
Links: 	   Members (create/modify/delete links)
Database:  Members (members can access Database feature)
Polls: 	   Members (create/modify/vote in polls)
Members:  Moderators view (moderators can view profiles/change settings)
Calendar:  Members (create/modify/delete events)
Promote:  Members (get sign-up boxes)

I can upload files for anyone who doesn't have or doesn't want a
YahooID :-)

#1042 From: "Rowan" <rowan@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: lilies classes
cathusrowan
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What are people doing about music for their classes?
It suddenly occured to us last night that although we have been using the
ipod - the speakers require electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.  We
no longer have a boom box although I still have the CDs.
Does someone have a box they can loan for all the classes (Azenari, Cathus,
Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire uses an identical set up)? Or
should I go out and buy a cheapo box for lilies?

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@...

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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx


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#1043 From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 1:29 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to CalontirDance
CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the CalontirDance
group.

   File        : /Lilies_Class_List.xls
   Uploaded by : calonkat <calonkat@...>
   Description : Dance classes for Lilies 2008

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CalontirDance/files/Lilies_Class_List.xls

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

calonkat <calonkat@...>

#1044 From: "Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: RE: Re: lilies classes
conradmk
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My Ipod box can be battery powered.



Conrad



From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rowan
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes



What are people doing about music for their classes?
It suddenly occured to us last night that although we have been using
the
ipod - the speakers require electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.
We
no longer have a boom box although I still have the CDs.
Does someone have a box they can loan for all the classes (Azenari,
Cathus,
Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire uses an identical set up)?
Or
should I go out and buy a cheapo box for lilies?

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@... <mailto:rowan%40french.toast.net>

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx

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#1045 From: Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 3:13 pm
Subject: RE: Re: lilies classes
hltsire
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I have a battery powered boom box and a tape deck adapted for ipod that I will
have available as well.

Tsire


To: CalontirDance@...: sauerm@...: Wed, 14 May 2008
10:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes




My Ipod box can be battery powered.ConradFrom:
CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
RowanSent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AMTo:
CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classesWhat are
people doing about music for their classes? It suddenly occured to us last night
that although we have been usingthe ipod - the speakers require electricty and
that doen't work for Lilies.We no longer have a boom box although I still have
the CDs.Does someone have a box they can loan for all the classes
(Azenari,Cathus, Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire uses an identical
set up)?Or should I go out and buy a cheapo box for lilies?HL Rowan
HoundskeeperBarony of Three Rivers, Calontirrowan@...
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#1046 From: Katriana <calonkat@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: Re: lilies classes
calonkat
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I have a recorder...

katriana

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:
> I have a battery powered boom box and a tape deck adapted for ipod that I
> will have available as well.
>
> Tsire
>
> To: CalontirDance@...: sauerm@...: Wed, 14 May
> 2008 10:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes
>
> My Ipod box can be battery powered.ConradFrom:
> CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of RowanSent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AMTo:
> CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classesWhat
> are people doing about music for their classes? It suddenly occured to us
> last night that although we have been usingthe ipod - the speakers require
> electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.We no longer have a boom box
> although I still have the CDs.Does someone have a box they can loan for all
> the classes (Azenari,Cathus, Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire
> uses an identical set up)?Or should I go out and buy a cheapo box for
> lilies?HL Rowan HoundskeeperBarony of Three Rivers,
> Calontirrowan@... <mailto:rowan%40french.toast.net> "Outside of
> a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
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#1047 From: "Rowan" <rowan@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: lilies classes
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Thank you Conrad/Tsire.  I'll count on your boxes for ipod hookup then.
Thankyou. Thankyou.  I really didn't want to drag CDs and a box out anouther
year.
---
I have a recorder...
katriana
-----
But Mistress... I'm sure you have your own classes to teach/attend and would
conflict or wouldn't have time to attend all 10+ different dance classes
(which is how many the 4 of us are teaching)

Rowan (the totally convinced that an ipod beats hauling around CDs)

HL Rowan Houndskeeper
Barony of Three Rivers, Calontir
rowan@...

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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx





On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tsire Tuzevo <tsire@...> wrote:
> I have a battery powered boom box and a tape deck adapted for ipod that I
> will have available as well.
>
> Tsire
>
> To: CalontirDance@...: sauerm@...: Wed, 14
May
> 2008 10:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies classes
>
> My Ipod box can be battery powered.ConradFrom:
> CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of RowanSent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:23 AMTo:
> CalontirDance@...: [CalontirDance] Re: lilies
classesWhat
> are people doing about music for their classes? It suddenly occured to us
> last night that although we have been usingthe ipod - the speakers require
> electricty and that doen't work for Lilies.We no longer have a boom box
> although I still have the CDs.Does someone have a box they can loan for
all
> the classes (Azenari,Cathus, Arina and myself all use my ipod, and Tsire
> uses an identical set up)?Or should I go out and buy a cheapo box for
> lilies?HL Rowan HoundskeeperBarony of Three Rivers,
> Calontirrowan@... <mailto:rowan%40french.toast.net> "Outside
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#1048 From: "lucia_b3r" <Starr.Mahoney@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 8:49 pm
Subject: New additions to Liles Dance & Music webpages
lucia_b3r
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Thanks all for the new information about the European dance classes!
I have entered all that I've received so far.

Also, I received information from Rahil (thanks Rahil!) about the
Middle Eastern dance classes and events, and that information is
entered as well.

If any of you can and wish to add some descriptive copy about a
particular class (i.e. information regarding what the class is about),
I'll be more than happy to add it if you'll send it to me (or post it
here.)

Here's the link again:
http://calontir.sca.org/lilieswar/lilies22/MusicDance/cmd_danceclasses.
html

Cheers,
Lucia

#1049 From: "Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 8:58 pm
Subject: RE: New additions to Liles Dance & Music webpages
conradmk
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Lucia



I believe Katriana has requested to take over my Bransle Class on
Tuesday.



Also please change the skill level on the Two Italian Dances for Three
Couples

Class to intermediate



Thanks



Conrad



From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lucia_b3r
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:50 PM
To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CalontirDance] New additions to Liles Dance & Music webpages



Thanks all for the new information about the European dance classes!
I have entered all that I've received so far.

Also, I received information from Rahil (thanks Rahil!) about the
Middle Eastern dance classes and events, and that information is
entered as well.

If any of you can and wish to add some descriptive copy about a
particular class (i.e. information regarding what the class is about),
I'll be more than happy to add it if you'll send it to me (or post it
here.)

Here's the link again:
http://calontir.sca.org/lilieswar/lilies22/MusicDance/cmd_danceclasses.
html

Cheers,
Lucia





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#1050 From: "lucia_b3r" <Starr.Mahoney@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: New additions to Liles Dance & Music webpages
lucia_b3r
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Those corrections are made now, Conrad.

Lucia

--- In CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com, "Sauer, Michael F."
<sauerm@...> wrote:
>
> Lucia
>
>
>
> I believe Katriana has requested to take over my Bransle Class on
> Tuesday.
>
>
>
> Also please change the skill level on the Two Italian Dances for
Three
> Couples
>
> Class to intermediate
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Conrad
>
>
>
> From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lucia_b3r
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:50 PM
> To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CalontirDance] New additions to Liles Dance & Music
webpages
>
>
>
> Thanks all for the new information about the European dance
classes!
> I have entered all that I've received so far.
>
> Also, I received information from Rahil (thanks Rahil!) about the
> Middle Eastern dance classes and events, and that information is
> entered as well.
>
> If any of you can and wish to add some descriptive copy about a
> particular class (i.e. information regarding what the class is
about),
> I'll be more than happy to add it if you'll send it to me (or post
it
> here.)
>
> Here's the link again:
>
http://calontir.sca.org/lilieswar/lilies22/MusicDance/cmd_danceclasse
s.
> html
>
> Cheers,
> Lucia
>
>
>
>
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#1051 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 4:09 pm
Subject: Ly Bens help
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Tsire,

Hello there.  How are you?

Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D

What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?

Thank you for your help,
Sara Sophia



To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
From: tsire@...
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!






















I suggest



Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)

for Couples



Single, Single, Double

Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double

(Lord turn about to face Lady)

Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders

Both Continue Forward a Double

(Both turn about to face each other)

Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders

(Lady turn about to face head of hall)

(Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)





It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.

You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)



Tsire





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#1052 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 4:17 pm
Subject: RE: Ly Bens help
ebrakhage
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Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I would
be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
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> I suggest
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> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)
>
>
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> Tsire
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#1053 From: Matt Lagemann <mlagemann@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 5:00 pm
Subject: RE: Ly Bens help
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Single = A step (first single is with left foot, second with right, etc) with
the other foot then coming together (So "Step, Together)  This should take two
beats (one for the step, and one for the Together)

Double  = Step Left, Step Right, Step Left, Bring right foot together with left.
The next double (if doing two in a row) would be Step Right, Step Left, Step
Right, Together.  This should take four beats, (one for each step and then one
to bring them together).

Hope this helps.

Ermenrich

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I would
be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
>
> Tsire,
>
> Hello there.  How are you?
>
> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have dance
tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. :-D
>
> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one step to one
beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the pavane step -
single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
>
>
>
> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
>
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> I suggest
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> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)
>
> for Couples
>
>
>
> Single, Single, Double
>
> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double
>
> (Lord turn about to face Lady)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders
>
> Both Continue Forward a Double
>
> (Both turn about to face each other)
>
> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders
>
> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)
>
> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
>
> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)
>
>
>
>
>
> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.
>
> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart, come
together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and begin again. :)
>
>
>
> Tsire
>
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#1054 From: "Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 5:00 pm
Subject: RE: Ly Bens help
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Hi

OK this is a bit of an oddball dance

Simple Explanation
Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close
with the left.
A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)
While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's
much more upbeat

As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2
beats or 1/2 measure.
While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the
signature is different.

One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase
(the step out, step in, turn)
sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),
resist the temptation to start
the next repeat here.


Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)
The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as
English dances with 'Italian like' steps
They are not English Country Dances.

With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main
difference is that Italian steps don't
close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are
more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause
Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause
is when the turns to face are done).

Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von
Kolmar
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM
To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I
would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500
> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help
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> Tsire,
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> Hello there.  How are you?
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> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have
dance tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would
get done. :-D
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> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one
step to one beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the
pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Sara Sophia
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> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com
> From: tsire@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!
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> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
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come together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and
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#1055 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 5:57 pm
Subject: RE: Ly Bens help
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Thanks for the explanations so far.  I'm trying to get the steps to work out
with where I think it should end in the music, but keep coming up short.  And
the stuff online that I'm finding is not being very helpful.  I think I'm
looking at stuff that is too scholarly when what I need is someone that says "a
single is a step-close."  I will keep practicing it and see if I can get a speed
that matches the music.  That is always the hardest part about this for me.  I
learn the steps alone and then have to fit them to the music. :-)

Thanks again,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:00:26 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Hi



OK this is a bit of an oddball dance



Simple Explanation

Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close

with the left.

A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)

While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's

much more upbeat



As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2

beats or 1/2 measure.

While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the

signature is different.



One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase

(the step out, step in, turn)

sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),

resist the temptation to start

the next repeat here.



Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)

The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as

English dances with 'Italian like' steps

They are not English Country Dances.



With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main

difference is that Italian steps don't

close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are

more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause

Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause

is when the turns to face are done).



Conrad



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To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help



Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I

would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)



Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)



> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...

> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500

> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

>

> Tsire,

>

> Hello there.  How are you?

>

> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have

dance tonight. :-)  But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would

get done. :-D

>

> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one

step to one beat?  Are doubles two steps to one beat?  Are they like the

pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?

>

> Thank you for your help,

> Sara Sophia

>

>

>

> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: tsire@...

> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500

> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!

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> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)

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> for Couples

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>

> Single, Single, Double

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double

>

> (Both turn about to face each other)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

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> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)

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> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.

>

> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart,

come together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and

begin again. :)

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> Tsire

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#1056 From: "Sauer, Michael F." <sauerm@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 6:21 pm
Subject: RE: Ly Bens help
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Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)
i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)

there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically
remember.

> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)
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> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)
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> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)
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> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)
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> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)
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> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)
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> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)
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> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)
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> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner
(2,2)
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> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)

#1057 From: Lady Sara Sophia von Kolmar <sarasophiavonkolmar@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 6:37 pm
Subject: RE: Ly Bens help
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I can get the dance to end where I want it to about 50% of the time.  I don't
know what the difference is between it not ending right and it ending right. :-)
I'm treating the music as 4/4 time.  Sigh, all I can do is keep working on it
until 7 tonight. :-)

Thanks so much,
Sara Sophia



To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help




















             Note number in (), these are the beats each line takes)

i.e. single = 2, single = 2, double = 4 so (2,2,4)



there may also be a short intro in the music, I don't specifically

remember.



> Single, Single, Double     (2,2,4)

>

> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double (4)

>

> (Lord turn about to face Lady) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Right shoulders  (4)

>

> Both Continue Forward a Double (4)

>

> (Both turn about to face each other) (0)

>

> Both Forward a Double to meet Left shoulders (4)

>

> (Lady turn about to face head of hall) (0)

>

> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

(2,2)

>

> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise) (4)
























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