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709 david d zuhn
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Jan 29, 2002
3:30 pm
I've just started writing my own CMRI software, and I'm wondering how often does the "real-time" loop need to run to be a reasonable implementation? The only...
710 Stephen Bartlett
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Jan 29, 2002
4:27 pm
My 486 - 66 MHz runs at least 4 loops per second. The only thing I ever found so slow as to be completely unacceptable was a 4 MHz 8088 PC. 8 MHz was better,...
711 Doug Geiger
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Jan 29, 2002
7:43 pm
... Ours run at about 2-1/2 cycles per second (using a PC with 266Mhz, with about 50 I/O cards on the CMRI with 4 nodes running serially and QuickBasic). That...
712 Stephen Bartlett
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Jan 29, 2002
8:29 pm
There are two delay figures in Chubb's code. They have become much less critical since I started running in DOS. (I realize David is not using Windows or...
713 BN
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Jan 29, 2002
11:31 pm
I have three nodes and loop at 6 times per second in the interperter and around 13 compiled. Can some one refresh my memory, how do I get control break to work...
714 Stephen Bartlett
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Jan 30, 2002
1:00 am
It is a choice made when compiling the code. Select the X Box "Produce Debug Code" and Ctrl-Brk will work in the compiled code. Steve Bartlet...
715 Gary Straub
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Jan 30, 2002
11:47 pm
David, At the Garrett Model Railroad Club in Garrett, IN, our program makes 20 loops/sec. This results in a "real- time" feel. Using a USIC board, the system...
716 Stephen Bartlett
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Jan 31, 2002
2:57 am
I just ran a quick check on my system. It idles at 750 loops per minute, or 12.5 per second. It is serial output, set for 9600 baud. Steve Bartlett...
717 Alan Anderson
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Jan 31, 2002
2:45 pm
You may be able to get faster results on a Windows machine (95/98, etc.) if you boot up in DOS mode instead of Windows. Windows adds a lot of overhead. We did...
718 Wayne Roderick
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Jan 31, 2002
2:58 pm
... Alan: The main reason that Lee went to DOS (real honest V6.22) boot on the UCW was to eliminate "dropouts" that would mess up timing while WinX was off ...
719 BN
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Jan 31, 2002
3:19 pm
When I boot up I momentarily see the windows screen (1/2 sec) then go to dos. Is this the direct you are referring to. I get a lot of incidences where the...
720 Glenn Butcher
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Jan 31, 2002
3:22 pm
Illustrates the suitability of MS-DOS for "real-time" applications. A real-time OS must be able to make service guarantees to its applications; DOS does this...
721 John Plocher
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Jan 31, 2002
5:46 pm
The performance of the "system" can be broken down into several parts - the places where bottlenecks can be found: The serial port (baud rate, quantity of data...
722 Earl Hackett
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Jan 31, 2002
11:27 pm
Gary No need to have guilt feelings about using DOS. I've had my fill of Windows programming. It's nice for all the eye candy and office stuff, but when it ...
723 Earl Hackett
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Jan 31, 2002
11:31 pm
No. That's a DOS prompt operating under Windows. I wiped Windows completely from my machine and installed DOS on the C drive. If you don't want to do that,...
724 Rich Weyand
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Jan 31, 2002
11:43 pm
... You should send the query out, and then, while waiting for the response, process the last response and get the next query ready. 9600 baud is going to take...
725 Nolan Hinshaw
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Feb 1, 2002
12:06 am
... I have a small farm of LSI-11s with 8 inch floppies, several of which contain the distribution for RT-11 version 4 (comment-free sources included) and am...
726 Wayne Roderick
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Feb 1, 2002
12:24 am
At 06:30 PM 1/31/02 -0500, Earl Hackett wrote: snip-- ... Earl gives good advice here- Listen up! The Teton Short Line embedded computer, runs DOS 6.22 and...
727 Lee Nicholas
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Feb 1, 2002
3:42 am
I don't know what the loop speed is on the UCW (I'm not a computer type) but it's damn fast. We're running in straight DOS as Wayne mentioned at a 19,200 baud...
728 Stephen Bartlett
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Feb 1, 2002
4:32 pm
I only assume it is effective, but I have a keyboard click that blanks the screen by just writing a blank and skipping the entire screen-write section. Forget...
729 Stephen Bartlett
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Feb 1, 2002
4:41 pm
My 95 and 98 machines have a startup menu option of starting in pure DOS without Windows, as well as the option "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" on the shutdown...
730 Paul Cesak
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Feb 1, 2002
8:23 pm
I have to question calling DOS a "real-time" OS. Ever tried to print a big document and the whole computer went to sleep. What's that all about. Amazing how...
731 Rich Weyand
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Feb 1, 2002
9:57 pm
At 02:22 PM 2/1/2002 -0600, Paul Cesak wrote: By the way, I run my CMRI on a 1GHz. processor under Windows 2000 and VB6. Surely not real time...but pretty dang...
732 Glenn Butcher
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Feb 1, 2002
11:57 pm
Paul, You found the rub with DOS; if you asked it to interleave more than one task at a time, DOS folded. But, if you only have one program to run and you...
733 Nolan Hinshaw
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Feb 1, 2002
11:58 pm
At 14:22 -0600 2/1/02, Paul Cesak wrote: [...] Well, RSTS was mighty fine, but both RT-11 and RSX-11 were the real-time systems. RT-11, if your application was...
734 Glenn Butcher
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Feb 2, 2002
12:13 am
... My Turbo Pascal hasn't worn out yet, nor has my MS-DOS 6.22. Yes, no one is supporting them anymore, but its not like I need to replace the points and...
735 Donald Wood
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Feb 2, 2002
3:38 pm
Hello Group Bruce Chubb's Appendex A shows the relationship of the baud rate to the number of nodes and IO cards. The speed is dependent upon baud rate once we...
736 Paul Cesak
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Feb 3, 2002
2:51 pm
DOS is ok if indeed you are satisfied with being in a character mode only. Frankly, the world has left this OS in a time tunnel....although even NT uses it as...
737 David Gibbons
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Feb 3, 2002
4:47 pm
... Dear Mr. Zuhn, Defining a "reasonable implementation" when you are talking about loop time could be recast as the following questions. How quickly should...
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