Serge et all,

Not in Tahoe, but just a thought for folks: my home is 7 miles from Badger pass
ski resort in Yosemite. I get a lot of money renting it out nightly on
Thanksgiving and Xmas holidays but the rest of the season is slow. I'd entertain
a few partial month and whole month rental options. I have a first floor that is
completely open starting December 1st.

http://www.hansbasecamp.com

Hans
---
http://www.HansFlorine.com

Mob Ph: 415-225-4267
http://www.hansbasecamp.com

Hello gang,
The AAC has finally gotten the Fall Highball organized for this year.

Nov 19, Saturday, Adopt a crag at the Buttermilks. Meet in the parking lot just
before the Peabodies for a light breakfast at 8:30 work 9-12
Party at Mill Creek Station with a presentation by John Long and music by the
Core Shots.

Hope some of you can make it. Oddly enough November is often prime bouldering
time at the Buttermilk and other areas at Bishop. Also a great time for a late
fall hike/climb in the high mts.
The Pit, north of Bishop will be open for camping.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Fred

Fred Glover
Sierra Nevada Section
American Alpine Club
fredfglover@...
408-761-1551

Hello gang,
The AAC has finally gotten the Fall Highball organized for this year.

Nov 19, Saturday, Adopt a crag at the Buttermilks. Meet in the parking lot just
before the Peabodies for a light breakfast at 8:30 work 9-12
Party at Mill Creek Station with a presentation by John Long and music by the
Core Shots.

Hope some of you can make it. Oddly enough November is often prime bouldering
time at the Buttermilk and other areas at Bishop. Also a great time for a late
fall hike/climb in the high mts.
The Pit, north of Bishop will be open for camping.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Fred

Fred Glover
Sierra Nevada Section
American Alpine Club
fredfglover@...
408-761-1551

Hey,

I'm thinking of doing the AIARE Level 1 course this winter, preferably in the
Tahoe area and was wondering whether anyone had any recommendations on a good
company/organization which teaches the course? At the moment I'm leaning towards
ASI.

Thanks
-John

I may be crazy but I really want to try this but can't dig up any good info.

I have ice axes, crampons, and the majority of the gear. Planning on going up
the cables route.

I'll be taking two friends with me.

Any thoughts on how you would outfit yourselves in terms of boots and garments?
Snow shoes necessary?

Thank you for any help or links!

Best,

Adam

Bob,

I have read about people tackling this route in the winter. The cables are still
in place just on the rock itself, no? Your reply was not very helpful or even
funny if that is what you were going for.

Adam

--- In CMG@yahoogroups.com, robert shattuck <bobolonius@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm in Bali right now and a little fried from the heat so maybe I am not
thinking or reading straight, but I would think that an essential part of your
winter gear for climbing ( the cable route) HD might be about THREE body bags .
. . I think the cables come down in the winter months for a reason.
>
> Bob
> http://www.summitpost.org/plans/view_activity.php?post_id=6480
>
>
>
> To: CMG@yahoogroups.com
> From: bisonsandufos@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:59:59 +0000
> Subject: CMG: Half Dome in December? Cables route
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       I may be crazy but I really want to try this but can't dig up any good
info.
>
>
>
> I have ice axes, crampons, and the majority of the gear. Planning on going up
the cables route.
>
>
>
> I'll be taking two friends with me.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on how you would outfit yourselves in terms of boots and
garments? Snow shoes necessary?
>
>
>
> Thank you for any help or links!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Adam
>

I would say that it's totally doable as the cables don't actually get removed in
the winter months.....they simply remove the posts and timbers....the cables
themselves are permanently attached but will be laying down. Now the thing to
consider seriously will be your skill and experience as well as that of your
group.

I've done it late in the season with light snow on the ground and no ice, but
not as late as December. I know of a few folks who have gone up the Snake Route
in mid-winter and descended the cables but these guys are seasoned mountaineers
who are intimately familiar with the route and the seasonal conditions there.

I would say to be honest with yourself and be willing to recognize if the
conditions are over your head. Depending on how much snow the area has received
by then snowshoes might be needed, boots/crampons may be necessary and an ice
axe wouldn't be a bad idea either way. Another thing to consider might be the
use of harnesses and connectors but then we get into the debate of whether
they'll provide a level of protection or be a distraction from your primary
focus of not falling!!! So if you decide on protection be sure you understand
the concept/style of dual connections used in Via Ferrata.

The days will be short so you'll either have to commit to doing a good chunk of
the journey by headlamp or plan on an overnight at LYV. If doing it it one big
push you'll want to travel light but be prepared for the worst weather as it can
change rapidly.

Above all else don't do anything foolish.....if the weather doesn't agree or the
conditions are beyond your ability make sure you live to do it another day on
your terms when the conditions are more favorable. Hope that helps.

Sent from my Precious

When the cables come down, they are not removed. The posts that hold them are
removed, along with the boards that go across the posts and provide a welcome
resting spot. When I went up years ago in November, in dry, snow-free
conditions, we just grabbed the cables and bat-manned it up, wearing cheap work
gloves for the cold cables. If there were snow or verglas (I doubt any
reasonably climbable ice would form there) I expect it would be rather sporty.

My two cents is leather boots that are good for scrambling and suitable for
kicking into snow. I suppose you could throw a pair of climbing shoes in as
well. For "garments" I'd suggest standard Sierra snowcamping kit.

If there is deep snow early season, you'd undoubtedly find sections of posthole
conditions on the trip in; for me that would suggest snowshoes. As you probably
know, the final approach to the base of the cables has steep dropoffs; in icy
conditions that could be the crux. If you do go, be safe, and post a trip
report.


--- In CMG@yahoogroups.com, robert shattuck <bobolonius@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm in Bali right now and a little fried from the heat so maybe I am not
thinking or reading straight, but I would think that an essential part of your
winter gear for climbing ( the cable route) HD might be about THREE body bags .
. . I think the cables come down in the winter months for a reason.
>
> Bob
> http://www.summitpost.org/plans/view_activity.php?post_id=6480
>
>
>
> To: CMG@yahoogroups.com
> From: bisonsandufos@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:59:59 +0000
> Subject: CMG: Half Dome in December? Cables route
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       I may be crazy but I really want to try this but can't dig up any good
info.
>
>
>
> I have ice axes, crampons, and the majority of the gear. Planning on going up
the cables route.
>
>
>
> I'll be taking two friends with me.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on how you would outfit yourselves in terms of boots and
garments? Snow shoes necessary?
>
>
>
> Thank you for any help or links!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Adam
>

The cables themselves are still there, but the posts that hold them up are gone.
Thus the cable will be laying on the rock and covered by snow.

  -Buddy

Sent from my iPhone

The shirts Tim designed for CMG are on sale today, enter HOLIDAYSALE1 at
checkout for 50% off. (This is just FYI - not some commercial, I don't work for
zazzle and I have never designed anything but electronic devices).  I was
wearing the ones I got last year at JTree this Thanksgiving and people asked me
about them so here's the info.

http://www.zazzle.com/infinityunltd

PS There seems to be no male version of the Just Climb shirt like the female one
that says "I'm not your mom, not your shrink, not your spiritual guide JUST
CLIMB".  You guys can send your pet peeves about women climbing partners to
Tim256@... (hopefully he won't kill me for giving out his email) and maybe
he might be inspired to make a shirt for the guys. Not your rope gun...whatever.

This is a product a friend of mine has made and thought people here may be
interested in it!
We took it on our hike of the JMT (and an ascent of Mt Langley) and it was
pretty sweet....

http://code.google.com/p/backwoods-logger/

The Backwoods Logger is a programmable device for measuring and graphing
temperature, air pressure, and altitude. It's designed for hikers, backpackers,
climbers, skiers, trail runners, cyclists, kayakers, snowmobilers, horseback
riders, and other outdoorsy people interested in environmental data logging over
timescales from an hour to a few weeks.

I hope everyone is enjoying this wonderful time of year. Here is something that
might inspire you to get to Napa.

An Evening with Ron Kauk
Thursday, January 19, 6-8 p.m.
An evening with Ron Kauk, Hosted by Gary Erickson owner and founder of Clif Bar
and Clif Family Winery. Come join us at Velo Vino for an evening of wine, and
adventure as we celebrate our Climber Limited release Bordeaux style wine. Meet
Ron Kauk, acclaimed American rock climber who has an extensive history of
accents via many of the classic routes in Yosemite. Our winemaker and Climber
Limited Release creator Bruce Regalia will also be here to talk about the blend.
The evening will include a slide show encapsulating many on Ron's epic climbs.
Enjoy light appetizers and a host of our incredible Clif Family wines. Ron and
Bruce will be on hand to autograph bottle and sign posters of our epic label.
Ideally we would appreciate those attending to RSVP to velovino@...

Is anyone interested in some quick easy climbing this Saturday or Sunday?  I'm
thinking about top roping a line at Deer Creek (Rocklin) but I've only bouldered
there, or maybe the 3rd class slabs on Old Man Mountain (near Cisco Grove), or
even hiking.  I'll be in Roseville.  415-302-1922.  Wish I were skiing though...

Fellow CMG members
Wrapping up a 2 year stint living and working in Beijing, China.
Eagerly awaiting when I return to my beloved Sierras.
Anyone out there interested in doing all or part of thr High Sierra Route?
Being that I've been out of the area for so long, my main concern is logistics,
specifically food drops.
So, presently only thinking about doing half, as this would require only require
one drop.
2 weeks commitment of time, probably late July/August.
Married,53,no kids,non-religious,don't smoke,Democrat.
I've been climbing,skiing,hiking,in the Sierras since I was 17.
Mario Molina
I can be reached at; in2theunknown@...
or; molinamf@...

I had a pair of Scarpa Inverno boots that have worn out and need to replace
them. Ocassional I'm going to use them for ice climbing trips, but primarily for
winter mountaineering.

Any recommendations on a pair of boots to get to replace them?


Craig



Craig Leventhal
Lake Forest, CA

Is anyone interested in backcountry skiing/board/snowshoeing this weekend?  I'm
thinking of this as a winter hike, like Castle Peak plus Basin, but hopefully
there will be a few good turns.  I'm open to other locations too.  I saw a
decent report on Rose Knob.

I am the weekend of feb 18.

b rouch
559.827.8282

On Feb 9, 2012, at 3:37 AM, CMG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Tahoe on Saturday?
>    From: Garrick Meeker
>
>
> Message
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 1. Tahoe on Saturday?
>    Posted by: "Garrick Meeker" garrick@... garrickmeeker
>    Date: Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:45 pm ((PST))
>
> Is anyone interested in backcountry skiing/board/snowshoeing this weekend? 
I'm thinking of this as a winter hike, like Castle Peak plus Basin, but
hopefully there will be a few good turns.  I'm open to other locations too.  I
saw a decent report on Rose Knob.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (1)
>
>
>
> California Mountaineering Group.
>
> Change your settings here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CMG/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Is anyone interested in climbing Pyramid Peak in a few weeks?  After the storms
because we can't park on hwy 50 when it's snowing.

If you want to do something smaller first, this Saturday I'm planning to ski
Waterhouse Peak (low angle so it's out of avy terrain) or maybe a resort
depending on conditions.