> Does anybody have a shopping list for the wood needed to build a
> Bug? My plan arrived today and I'm off to the hobby shop Saturday to
> get the wood. Would one sheet 3x36 of each size needed be enough?
> I.E. one sheet 1/16x3x36, one sheet 1/8x3x36, etc.
There's no 1/8" wood. You will need a small amount of 1/8 lite-ply and a
1/8" dowel (36" should be fine) and 36" 1/8"x1/2" TE stock. That and the
carbon fiber for the wing spar and boom.
I'd get 2 sheets of 1/16" just to be safe. Contest grade is better if
you can get some.
Allan
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Does anybody have a shopping list for the wood needed to build a
Bug? My plan arrived today and I'm off to the hobby shop Saturday to
get the wood. Would one sheet 3x36 of each size needed be enough?
I.E. one sheet 1/16x3x36, one sheet 1/8x3x36, etc.
Thank in advance,
James Fritz
Fort Collins, CO
The URL for the plans page at RCM is in the bookmarks
section of the BugHLG website. This would be a good
place to put URL's of material sources for building the
Bug. It would be great to have a list of sources for
contest grade balsa, carbon tubes, even lightweight
batteries and receivers.
John
Allan Wright wrote:
> The plans were in RCM magazine, you can order them from their plans
> service. www.rcmmagazine.com
>
> Al
>
> >
> > I'm interested in building a Bug HLG, can some one direct me to
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> > I can get some plans? I tried a Yahoo search and had no luck.
> >
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> > Hawk (a Hobie Hawk look a like) and a highly modified West Wings 35"
>
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--- In BugHLG@y..., Allan Wright <aew@m...> wrote:
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> service. www.rcmmagazine.com
>
> Al
>
> >
> > I'm interested in building a Bug HLG, can some one direct me to
where
> > I can get some plans? I tried a Yahoo search and had no luck.
> >
> > I live in Novato CA and I'm presently flying a home built 28"
Micro
> > Hawk (a Hobie Hawk look a like) and a highly modified West Wings
35"
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The plans were in RCM magazine, you can order them from their plans
service. www.rcmmagazine.com
Al
>
> I'm interested in building a Bug HLG, can some one direct me to where
> I can get some plans? I tried a Yahoo search and had no luck.
>
> I live in Novato CA and I'm presently flying a home built 28" Micro
> Hawk (a Hobie Hawk look a like) and a highly modified West Wings 35"
> Merlin. If any one is in the area please drop me an email and we can
> go flying.
>
> David Fyfe
>
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I'm interested in building a Bug HLG, can some one direct me to where
I can get some plans? I tried a Yahoo search and had no luck.
I live in Novato CA and I'm presently flying a home built 28" Micro
Hawk (a Hobie Hawk look a like) and a highly modified West Wings 35"
Merlin. If any one is in the area please drop me an email and we can
go flying.
David Fyfe
Thanks Carl. I'll check them out. They're not the one in the article
but they may do just as well.
Thanks again,
Al
>
> Here is where I bought mine:
> www.acp-composites.com
>
> Regards,
> Carl Petersen
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I don't have my article with me, what was the store that they
reccomend in the Bug article to get your carbon fiber products
from? I want to re-order and I forgot where I got the first
batch of CF from.
Thanks,
Al
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Well I got to fly my extended wing Bug this weekend and all I can say is
'WOW!'
I made a new wing by extending the span of each wing panel by 6cm for a total
increase in span of 12cm. I kept the chord the same and all the rib sizes
the same. I spaced the ribs out appropriately for the new span. I used cf
iron-on ribbon over the tip from LE to TE as well as a piece around the
tip, and extended the CF spars to the end of the wingtips. All this was done
to aid in discus launching the bug. Wing was covered with Solarfilm Lite.
I went out to fly at the local ballfield and there is a definately noticeable
increase in performance. I used the new wing on a standard bug fuselage.
Eventually I noticed that there was a small hill on the upwind side of the
field and started to do a little mini-slope flying there. That with the
light thermals allowed me to get the bug to over 300 feet several times
and over 400 feet once. Longest flight was over 5 minutes easy, in fact I
had to dive the bug down because I was afraid I was going to go beyond the
range of the GWS receiver I had in it!
Anyways, experiment was very successful! It's not Mosquito class legal, but
it's a helluva lot of fun. Pictures coming soon.
Al
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> Has anyone built the Bug larger than the plans? I was thinking that
> the design was strong enough, that if I added 1 extra rib and kept
> all the wood thicknesses/CF diameters the same that I'd actually be able
> to get a lower wingloading (assuming same equipment).
>
> Has anyone tried this? I think I may have to extend the nose a tiny bit to get
> the plane to balance, but besides that it should work great!
>
> I've also got a shipment of contest balsa coming to try making a really
> light bug as drawn.
>
> Anyways - those are my ideas. I'd be interested in your comments.
Ugh - didn't really explain fully. I was considering a 33% increase in span,
from .75M to 1M
Al
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Has anyone built the Bug larger than the plans? I was thinking that
the design was strong enough, that if I added 1 extra rib and kept
all the wood thicknesses/CF diameters the same that I'd actually be able
to get a lower wingloading (assuming same equipment).
Has anyone tried this? I think I may have to extend the nose a tiny bit to get
the plane to balance, but besides that it should work great!
I've also got a shipment of contest balsa coming to try making a really
light bug as drawn.
Anyways - those are my ideas. I'd be interested in your comments.
Al
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Hi All,
Would anyone be interested in sharing the moderator
chores for this group? I have no experience building or
flying a Bug yet and thought it would be a good idea if
someone who has at least built one (or more) could
help moderate this group.
We are up to 30 members. Let me welcome the new
members and remind everyone that there is a poll (in the
poll section on the home site) to supply information
on the members building experience with the Bug.
If anyone has an idea for a new poll, let me know and
I'll set it up.
John
Carl and I were flying our Bugs a couple of years ago around
November. I was one of the lucky ones to get the plans early. We both
got over 6 minutes. We made a bet who would be first to 7 mins. I
have heard it from Carl yet and not from me. Don't we love our Bugs!
Todd
I uploaded some photos of Bugs to the photos section.
They had been posted to the ezone. Hope noone minds.
I also uploaded a file written by Zhack called
Adding 'lightness' to the Bug. Zhack's Bug weighs 2.5 ounces.
Look in the file section.
John
> So far the longest flight mentioned has been
> 2 minutes. Has anyone on the list had longer
> thermal flights with the Bug?
I've had a minute and a half, but only had the bug 3 days, and no
sunshine here yet.
Man is it fun though!
Al
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Do the plans for the Bug call for washout in the
wingtips? Most gliders use washout to prevent
the tip stall that you describe.
If you backoff one click of trim, does your Bug
still stall in turns?
John
Allan Wright wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> I bought a bug off of E-zone all built. I installed my equipment in
> it
> and have it trimmed out for it's flattest glide possible. Mine weighs
> 111g
> (3.9 oz) which I guess is on the heavy side.
>
> When I turn I stall sometimes since I am on the hairy edge of level
> flight
> with my trimming. Do the rest of you use a click or two of down or do
> you
> just put in some down when turning?
>
> New to the list,
> Al
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Here's a link to my bug page. There is a pic of me and my bug as
well as a few AVI movies, including one of a flight over a minute
long (camera runs out after a minute of movie).
http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/aew/rc/Bug/
Al
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Hi,
Here's the link to the "new" sailplane forums on Ezone. There are
separate forums for Thermal, Slope and Hand Launch.
Come check them out - lot's of good info!
Ric Duley
Moderator - Thermal Forum
Here's the index page of the ezone.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/index.php?topic=ezone
Do a search in the Sailplane forum for the Bug.
John
duclevan wrote:
> Does E-zone has a web address ?
>
> --- In BugHLG@y..., Allan Wright <aew@m...> wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I bought a bug off of E-zone all built. I installed my equipment
> in it
> > and have it trimmed out for it's flattest glide possible. Mine
> weighs 111g
> > (3.9 oz) which I guess is on the heavy side.
> >
> > When I turn I stall sometimes since I am on the hairy edge of
> level flight
> > with my trimming. Do the rest of you use a click or two of down or
> do you
> > just put in some down when turning?
> >
> > New to the list,
> > Al
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Thanks for sharing this modif with us. The original fuselage design
is really fragile. I have used the Apogee fuselage design with the
Bug wing and it is more solid. Yours is even better, especially for
tip launch. Can you post a sketch of the side view of the fuselage to
show us the routing of the carbon tube relative to the servos
position ?
Thanks
--- In BugHLG@y..., "colinb_us" <colin.bosch@m...> wrote:
> I uploaded several pictures of my Bug in the files area. I call
> it "Carbon D-Bug" because of the carbon fiber fuselage and discus
> launch capability. Hope you Bug lovers enjoy my creation and can
use
> it to create your own. It is a very fun airplane. The original is
a
> bit fragile, which prompted me to redesign it with a full length
> carbon shaft to survive ground strikes.
>
> The original posting on Ezone is available at:
> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?
> s=&threadid=9385&highlight=DBug.
>
> --Colin--
Does E-zone has a web address ?
--- In BugHLG@y..., Allan Wright <aew@m...> wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> I bought a bug off of E-zone all built. I installed my equipment
in it
> and have it trimmed out for it's flattest glide possible. Mine
weighs 111g
> (3.9 oz) which I guess is on the heavy side.
>
> When I turn I stall sometimes since I am on the hairy edge of
level flight
> with my trimming. Do the rest of you use a click or two of down or
do you
> just put in some down when turning?
>
> New to the list,
> Al
>
>
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Hi everyone!
I bought a bug off of E-zone all built. I installed my equipment in it
and have it trimmed out for it's flattest glide possible. Mine weighs 111g
(3.9 oz) which I guess is on the heavy side.
When I turn I stall sometimes since I am on the hairy edge of level flight
with my trimming. Do the rest of you use a click or two of down or do you
just put in some down when turning?
New to the list,
Al
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What amazed me the most was one time I flew the Bug off a slope in 20-
25 MPH winds and it penetrated amazingly well. It required nearly 3/4
down elevator to maintain forward flight, but what is amazing that a
3.5 oz airplane could be flown in that much wind at all. That was
with the original balsa fuse, and no gyro.
After seeing the articles about using a gyro for discus launch
recovery, I had to try it. So I purchased a small Century gyro.
Really amazing!!! You can throw it hard and it takes off like a
rocket. All you have to do is to level off at the top. Good launch
nearly every time. The way I extended the spar throught the wing tip
could better be done by extending the actual spar to the tip, which
would be stronger. I added the wire after the wing was built and you
can see in the pictures how the wing tip is getting beat-up from any
twisting that occurs on the launch peg.
My lightest version was 3.5 oz. The latest version with CF fuselage
and gyro is 3.8 oz.
Most of my flights are under one minute: 30-50 seconds are very
common. Occasionally, I will get a small thermal and can increase
flight times to a couple minutes. At 3.8 oz it is a bit heavy. I've
been wanting to add about 6 inches to the center section, thereby
increasing the span. I really like the gyro assisted launches and
think it difficult to build much lighter while still maintaining
durability. The original balsa fuse is lighter, but it can take very
little abuse and after repeated repairs, it's not so light anymore.
I've very new at HLG, so my short flight times could also be improved
with experience and savy reading thermal conditions. I can tell when
I'm trying to fly "correctly" verses being overly active at the
controls. The only thing that is a bit peculiar about the design is
that with this airfoil, it hold its pitch heading and does not
correct itself from a moderate dive. That's great for penetration
and flying in a strong breeze, but for still air thermal work, I
think a flatter bottom or slight undercambered airfoil would be
better. But... remember what I said... I'm not very experienced with
gliders!
Regardless of my experience level and inablility to sustain longer
flights, this little airplane is one of my favorites and I take the
opportunity to fly it often. I'd really like to hear what
performance others have been getting.
Rgds,
--Colin--
--- In BugHLG@y..., John Gallagher <gldrgidr@b...> wrote:
> Thanks Colin for the photos. You've built an extreme Bug.
> What's the flying weight and your longest flight?
>
> John
>
> colinb_us wrote:
>
> > I uploaded several pictures of my Bug in the files area. I call
> > it "Carbon D-Bug" because of the carbon fiber fuselage and discus
> > launch capability. Hope you Bug lovers enjoy my creation and can
use
> > it to create your own. It is a very fun airplane. The original
is a
> > bit fragile, which prompted me to redesign it with a full length
> > carbon shaft to survive ground strikes.
> >
> > The original posting on Ezone is available at:
> > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > s=&threadid=9385&highlight=DBug.
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Thanks!
Hi,
Welcome to the Bug email discussion group.
I started this group with the hope that it would
become a permanent archive of info on building
and flying Carl Dowdy's Bug.
To get things started let me ask those of you
who have built a Bug to follow Colin's example
and upload some photos of your bug. It might
also be good if you tell us the flying weight of
your Bug and about your most memorable or
longest flight.
I'm waiting for the plans to arrive, so expect
lots of questions later. For now, has anyone
built a longer wingspan Bug?
thanks,
John Gallagher
Thanks Colin for the photos. You've built an extreme Bug.
What's the flying weight and your longest flight?
John
colinb_us wrote:
> I uploaded several pictures of my Bug in the files area. I call
> it "Carbon D-Bug" because of the carbon fiber fuselage and discus
> launch capability. Hope you Bug lovers enjoy my creation and can use
> it to create your own. It is a very fun airplane. The original is a
> bit fragile, which prompted me to redesign it with a full length
> carbon shaft to survive ground strikes.
>
> The original posting on Ezone is available at:
> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?
> s=&threadid=9385&highlight=DBug.
>
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I uploaded several pictures of my Bug in the files area. I call
it "Carbon D-Bug" because of the carbon fiber fuselage and discus
launch capability. Hope you Bug lovers enjoy my creation and can use
it to create your own. It is a very fun airplane. The original is a
bit fragile, which prompted me to redesign it with a full length
carbon shaft to survive ground strikes.
The original posting on Ezone is available at:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?
s=&threadid=9385&highlight=DBug.
--Colin--