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Re: [BoundaryPoint] Sokh, Vorukh, and others

Thank you Brendan for the clarification.

> >On this site: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sota/fergana.htm , there is talk of
> >seven enclaves within
> >Kyrgyzstan, 4 Uzbek ones (of which two are identified as Sokh and
> >Shakhimardan), and 3 Tadzhik ones
> >(one identified as Vorukh, and another one, not named, is probably the
> >long, narrow one).
> >
> No, as in my previous post, there are 7 total, 6 in Kyrgizia (4 Uzbeki and 2
> Tajiki) and 1 Tajiki in Uzbek. The article makes this clear too.

You are quite right. I should have read it with more attention.

> >Also, there should be Kyrgyz enclaves in Uzbekistan too, according to this
> >news item (Kabar, Kyrgyz
> >national news agency): http://www.kabar.gov.kg/english/opi/2001/2/26.html .
> >Look for the item
> >"Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan reached agreement on border delimitation
> >issues". Anybody has names and
> >locations for these?
>
> This is wrong. There are no Kyrgyz enclaves in Uzbekistan. If there are,
> they are VERY SMALL as they do not appear on 1:200k and even 1:100k mapping
> of the area.

Wouldn't be the first example of a prime minister (in this case the Uzbek pm)
who is misinformed.

Anyway, I decided to have a look in my Soviet atlas (1987), not having very much
hope to find a good
map in there, but to my surprise I _did_ find those seven enclaves. So I made
this little scan, to
which I added the names. The ones I don't know the name of I just numbered T-1
and T-2 (the Tajik
ones) and U-1 and U-2 (the Uzbek ones). By the way, the Shakhimardan enclave has
a village in it
called Iordan, and in Sokh enclave there is a village called Tul'.

Have I found the correct ones, or are there still other ones?

Peter S.


Mon Mar 5, 2001 8:08 am

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There are three enclaves in Kyrgyzstan that I know of by name: Sokh, Shakhimardan (both Uzbek), and Vorukh (Tadzhik). On some maps I can find another enclave...
Peter Smaardijk
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Mar 2, 2001
11:56 am

There are 7 enclaves in Central asia: 4 Uzbek in Kirgizia: Sokh and shakimardan are the two big ones, and each has a very small one between it and the Uzbek...
Brendan Whyte
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Mar 3, 2001
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... No, as in my previous post, there are 7 total, 6 in Kyrgizia (4 Uzbeki and 2 Tajiki) and 1 Tajiki in Uzbek. The article makes this clear too. ... This is...
Brendan Whyte
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Mar 3, 2001
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Thank you Brendan for the clarification. ... You are quite right. I should have read it with more attention. ... Wouldn't be the first example of a prime...
Peter Smaardijk
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Mar 5, 2001
8:08 am

That's the boys! got 'em all. Soviet maps from late 50s show Sokh was still connected to the rest of Uzbekistan. It seems to have been the last to be created,...
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