LLLLove to read you!

As to A, gee I think you underestimate God and U!

It is exactly as you say it is not!

And you are only pretending to be lonely for conrast of experience-
You know everything there is to know- everywhere in the universe- NOW

You are a vibrating radar bar
your cell pack is 5 bars my friend
9thbody


--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "primalconnection"
<glimmer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Imagine you are mighty beyond all limitation and your imagination
is
> the truth of you
>
> No breakthroughs are needed you are all now and continue to be
> powerfully perfect
>
> 9thbody
>
>
> --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "Danny"
> <Sondoman@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Mighty Man,
> >
> > No worries Ron, it was just me looking and not seeing, as usual.
> > As for breakthroughs, well maybe.
> > I move forward in tiny increments, but at least I'm certain of
the
> > direction :¬)
> >
> > Thanks mate.
> >
> > I think we are due a good giggle, what ya got big fella?
> >
> > Danny.
> >
> >
> > --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, PLAEDES
> > <plaedes@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan the Man:
> > >
> > > I was NOT my intent to chastise you, in fact, I was attempting
> to
> > support
> > > your image with some of that light heartedness you like, that's
> > all?  You
> > > appear to have made a great breakthrough, I recognize that.  So
> > good on ya!
> > > And go easy on yourself.  There's no place to go, and only time
> to
> > get where
> > > we thiMk we are not.  ;)
> > >
> > > ~`Ron
> > >
> > > P.S. God will be as tough or as loving as you desire, and your
> > wish is your
> > > command.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Danny
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:14 PM
> > > To: BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet] Re: Shadows
> > >
> > > Hi Ron
> > >
> > > In the jungle the mighty jungle, the lion contemplates other
> > possibilities.
> > >
> > > Shadows, mirrors, imagery, and magic. Isn't that the real
nature
> > of the
> > > universe?
> > > Well that's how I see it all.
> > > The imagination is the most powerful tool we have to explore
our
> > infinite
> > > potentials, and as the comedian Bill Hicks once observed, "We
> are
> > the
> > > imagination of ourselves." I doubt anyone here would object to
> that
> > > statement.
> > >
> >
>

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "anders_lindman"
<anders_lindman@...> wrote:
>
> It's also important to see that we don't want to be all powerful
> creators. Not even God wants to be that. Why? Imagine being an
> almighty creator living in eternity. You then will have fears about
> your own powers because when you are all powerful, there is the
> possibility that you somewhere in eternity can put yourself into an
> infinite nightmare and become trapped there. The curious God says:
> "Hmm... I am curious. Let's see if I can put myself into an infinite
> nightmare that I never can get out of or be rescued from..."
>
> That's what I call fear!
>
> al.
-Hi al, We are all powerful creators. We did put ourselves here..on
purpose. My understanding is that the only way to be here in a
physical body- forgetting who we really are- was to take on a lot of
limiting beliefs. Layers and layers. Just the belief that God is
outside of you is a major limiting belief and may more follow and add
to this thought. Remember what ever we think or belief we become. That
is how powerful our thoughts are. No one ever told us that we needed
to be aware of what we are creating with our own thinking--which is
powerful but we planned it that way. During a clearing I did on myself
I had the experience/ realization that I- as God- did this on purpose
for the knowledge gained from the experience.  Wow! I really am God! I
wanted to experience everything. I wanted to experience the malevolent
as far as I could go --So I had an incarnation as a malevolent
Being..You can't know something unless you become it.  I saw that it
was my Self that put the veils in place and I am finding them now and
clearing them. My thoughts on the shift is that we are moving to a
faster time. We are creating this. During my week in a higher
consciousness state I saw that we cannot have even a little fear. Post
#6466. I believe I was getting a heads up of what it will be like in
the faster time. Time to wake up. Love Karen

This might help
   The planet mercury was retrograde for almost all of July. Therefore many
unusual things would have happen especially related to communication. Or lack of
communication. Everything during this time period felt like it was upside down
and it caused many misunderstanding. During this time relationship break up,
arguements happen, computer breaks, more car crashes and so on.
   mercury went back to it's station on Friday the 28th. You can fel that things
sem more calmer.
   Margaret

analogical=wholeness <sublime.entity@...> wrote:
           thanks danny, this sure does explain some 'dreams' i have had and the
foreboding 'feelings' that you described for yourself as well i too have been
feeling something big on the horizon. i cant seem to stop thinking it or saying
it to those who i speak to weekly. i keep feeling that there is just a huge
shift happening, but cant seem to put my finger on whether it is with myself or
a bigger canvas. hard to explain the feeling, and havent really tried to as i
have been mostly internal about all the things that are going on with me.
i was recently going to post about some strange reality occurrences to see if
anyone else in this group is experiencing the same stuff. but i just assumed we
all are, or i wouldnt have formed the question. would be interesting though to
take a poll on some things.
here is a small list
1. much more psychic awareness
2. dreams about the future? sometimes they are just of the next day.
3. animals acting strangely, like jumping over things that arent there, etc
4. hearing music thats not on a radio/stereo
5. having a re-memberence of already living a day or week, and this has been
occurring for about two months now.

anyone else?
peace & joy
td

Danny <fotherwing@...> wrote:
Hello Asg,

I wanted to ask you if you feel that what is coming is immanent.
Your post seems to have a sense of urgency about it.

Quite a while ago I read something about a coming wave, though I'm
not sure if it's the same thing you are referring to, the chief
source of my information about it is linked at the end of this post.
I have a reason for asking, and anyone doubting my sanity (And who
can blame them) will probably have there suspicions confirmed.

The very first teaching I heard Ramtha give was well over a year
ago, and it was about the coming earth changes. To say I found it
shocking is an understatement, but slowly I began to understand that
it was necessary, and the fear gradually gave way to acceptance.
Being a distant student of Ramtha helps me to make sense of it, but
you don't have to be a student to realize that it's all going shit-
shaped.
We had some storms here a couple of weeks ago like I've never seen,
this is England, Yes we get a lot of rain, but not the kind of
weather that I'm seeing now, and it pales by comparison to what's
going on elsewhere on the planet.

I made my family and friends aware of what I'd learned and told
myself I would do all I could to keep them safe, and "See" all of us
beyond the changes.
I haven't been walking around with my head full of this, that's not
to say that I'd forgotten, but we have to do the day to day stuff
too, and that's kind of how it's been for me until recently.

I haven't been to the school Asg, (Much as I'd love to) so I've done
no sending and receiving, no card finding, and so my psychic
abilities are as dormant as the next man's.
But lately, at least for the last month or so, I've been
experiencing an intense feeling of foreboding. It happens maybe once
or twice in a week, and may only last for five or ten minutes at the
most, and it usually happens when what I'm speaking about here is
the last thing on my mind. It's a powerful almost overwhelming
feeling of something major coming, something very unusual.

You said:

"I think it is clear what I am getting at. And where this is
leading towards is not for everyone, I know. But I believe that
there must be a few who are ready to rocknroll. The wave is
in motion now, and it is not a fluxation this time. It is a
growing swell. It is time to turn the world inside-out."

After reading your words, I felt I had to ask if you or anyone else
have had any similar feelings. I'm ready for what's coming (At least
I think I am) but if it's coming sooner than later, I want to know.

Thanks

Danny.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave_i.htm

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "rhdragsa"
wrote:
>
> Continuing now.
>
> Am I selective in what I choose to utilize from Ramtha.
> You betcha! That is what gods do; they make decisions.
> They do not just sit there and gobble up everything
> before them.
>
> "God is a giver; not a taker".
>
> This selection is one that I know everyone has heard, perhaps
> many times. And if you listen to me enough - or well enough -
> you are going to find that the 'secret' teachings are not
> where you thought they were. They are public, up front, and
> in your face.
>
> God is a giver; not a taker. In short, that means that consumption
> is brought to a minimum in a 'god', while the outflow is given
> precedence. Learning to Exhale.
>
> How long should an apple cling to its stem? And just feed off of
> the tree? Shouldn't it drop off when it has been properly
> nourished and then roll away? What happens if an apple does not
> do this? It rots on the tree, or beneath the tree, where it is
> eaten or recycled. To flourish, it must leave. To take decades
> to do this indicates a lot of resistance.
>
> I think it is clear what I am getting at. And where this is
> leading towards is not for everyone, I know. But I believe that
> there must be a few who are ready to rocknroll. The wave is
> in motion now, and it is not a fluxation this time. It is a
> growing swell. It is time to turn the world inside-out. Not as
> a group. But as individual gods riding the edge of the unknown.
> We are linked in intent, not in structure.
>
> I cannot hold back any longer.
>

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Whoa Danny,

Did ye jump off the train into a chasm?!

I am writing here about Independence. The untethering of the
spirit. My allusions were directed towards the hangers on who
continue to place god in front of themselves, rather than behind.

I was focused on the-end-of-the-world for twenty years *before*
Ramtha brought it up. I am focused on Growth now. And I am taking
care of my own territory/vortex. And that's about the extent of
my attention on that subject.

I have had some rather dark and heavy feelings the past month,
but I interpret these as indicators of a convergence of selves
(mine) that are combining into this focus. Resolvings.

-peace,
r.



--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "Danny"
<fotherwing@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Asg,
>
> I wanted to ask you if you feel that what is coming is immanent.
> Your post seems to have a sense of urgency about it.
>
> Quite a while ago I read something about a coming wave, though I'm
> not sure if it's the same thing you are referring to, the chief
> source of my information about it is linked at the end of this
post.
> I have a reason for asking, and anyone doubting my sanity (And who
> can blame them) will probably have there suspicions confirmed.
>
> The very first teaching I heard Ramtha give was well over a year
> ago, and it was about the coming earth changes. To say I found it
> shocking is an understatement, but slowly I began to understand
that
> it was necessary, and the fear gradually gave way to acceptance.
> Being a distant student of Ramtha helps me to make sense of it,
but
> you don't have to be a student to realize that it's all going shit-
> shaped.
> We had some storms here a couple of weeks ago like I've never
seen,
> this is England, Yes we get a lot of rain, but not the kind of
> weather that I'm seeing now, and it pales by comparison to what's
> going on elsewhere on the planet.
>
> I made my family and friends aware of what I'd learned and told
> myself I would do all I could to keep them safe, and "See" all of
us
> beyond the changes.
> I haven't been walking around with my head full of this, that's
not
> to say that I'd forgotten, but we have to do the day to day stuff
> too, and that's kind of how it's been for me until recently.
>
> I haven't been to the school Asg, (Much as I'd love to) so I've
done
> no sending and receiving, no card finding, and so my psychic
> abilities are as dormant as the next man's.
> But lately, at least for the last month or so, I've been
> experiencing an intense feeling of foreboding. It happens maybe
once
> or twice in a week, and may only last for five or ten minutes at
the
> most, and it usually happens when what I'm speaking about here is
> the last thing on my mind. It's a powerful almost overwhelming
> feeling of something major coming, something very unusual.
>
> You said:
>
> "I think it is clear what I am getting at. And where this is
> leading towards is not for everyone, I know. But I believe that
> there must be a few who are ready to rocknroll. The wave is
> in motion now, and it is not a fluxation this time. It is a
> growing swell. It is time to turn the world inside-out."
>
> After reading your words, I felt I had to ask if you or anyone
else
> have had any similar feelings. I'm ready for what's coming (At
least
> I think I am) but if it's coming sooner than later, I want to know.
>
> Thanks
>
> Danny.
>
> http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave_i.htm
>

Does God get curious?

   Margaret

anders_lindman <anders_lindman@...> wrote:
           It's also important to see that we don't want to be all powerful
creators. Not even God wants to be that. Why? Imagine being an
almighty creator living in eternity. You then will have fears about
your own powers because when you are all powerful, there is the
possibility that you somewhere in eternity can put yourself into an
infinite nightmare and become trapped there. The curious God says:
"Hmm... I am curious. Let's see if I can put myself into an infinite
nightmare that I never can get out of or be rescued from..."

That's what I call fear!

al.

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "laurarice333"
<laurarice3333@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> You are riding a wave, as you always have, but now you are aware of
> it...things are collasping...you all know that. Your body and your
> altered ego mind are having a bumpy ride,while your God Self is
> being exposed.
> I am sure you understand that the shift isnt done in one streaming
> motion here in this vib. (but for those asleep it will seem like
> that) Fear for survial...that is all that you are
> feeling...acknowledge it, go through it, let it go...and as
> difficult as things can seem in your daily living (time slows,
> disappears, whisps of light, sounds unhumanly heard, restless,
> sleepynes) to your body and or mind, ALLOW yourself to acknowledge
> that SHIFT happening within you, you are MOVING WITH nature.
>
> Testing your fear of your bodies survival IS HOW you will survive.
> You are learning it now. Master this, and no amount of disaster can
> destroy a light so bright. The biggest disaster wont be the tearing
> up of the earth but the instant abilty to manifest from a mind
> infested with fear.
> When lines of time collide, whether you are ready or not, you WILL
> experience ALL of your thoughts even into manifested form. Can you
> watch this and remain out of your lower seals??Out of fear??? Can
> you look into the face of a brother that is so unlike yours and be
> in uncondtional love?? We have been THINKING these thoughts right
> along. It wont take a God realized to manifest a thought(ANY
> thought) in hertizen when the dimentions merge. Even the walking
> dead will experience the fruit of their minds, bitter or not. Be
> excited that you KNOW. Be joyful that what you have dreamed of is
> coming and you will be asleep no more.
>
> LLLLLLLLLLLL
>






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<mailto:BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com> , BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> This might help
>   The planet mercury was retrograde for almost all of July. Therefore
many unusual things would have happen especially related to
communication. Or lack of communication. Everything during this time
period felt like it was upside down and it caused many misunderstanding.
During this time relationship break up, arguements happen, computer
breaks, more car crashes and so on.
>   mercury went back to it's station on Friday the 28th. You can fel
that things sem more calmer.
>   Margaret
>




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--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "kadowning123"
<kadowning@...> wrote:

> -Hi al, We are all powerful creators. We did put ourselves here..on
> purpose. My understanding is that the only way to be here in a
> physical body- forgetting who we really are- was to take on a lot of
> limiting beliefs. Layers and layers. Just the belief that God is
> outside of you is a major limiting belief and may more follow and add
> to this thought. Remember what ever we think or belief we become. That
> is how powerful our thoughts are. No one ever told us that we needed
> to be aware of what we are creating with our own thinking--which is
> powerful but we planned it that way. During a clearing I did on myself
> I had the experience/ realization that I- as God- did this on purpose
> for the knowledge gained from the experience.  Wow! I really am God! I
> wanted to experience everything. I wanted to experience the malevolent
> as far as I could go --So I had an incarnation as a malevolent
> Being..You can't know something unless you become it.  I saw that it
> was my Self that put the veils in place and I am finding them now and
> clearing them. My thoughts on the shift is that we are moving to a
> faster time. We are creating this. During my week in a higher
> consciousness state I saw that we cannot have even a little fear. Post
> #6466. I believe I was getting a heads up of what it will be like in
> the faster time. Time to wake up. Love Karen
>

Hi Karen,

I have also sensed that things are speeding up. I see myself and other
people as parts of the arrow of evolution, infinite intelligence in
action. We can never tap all that intelligence, but I think we can
expand in consciousness by getting closer to the tip of the arrow. The
tip itself is the infinite Force cutting through an ocean of entropy
(disorder) in the everpresent now.

And I agree we have to cut through veils of the mess which I think is
much a result of social conditioning (human society is still immature
but is maturing day by day).

I have read a bit in the book "Molecules of Emotion" by Candace Pert.
Very interesting stuff. Our bodies are a community of trillions of
cells and there is a massive communication of molecules going on
between the cells all the time. It made me wonder, where the heck is
consciousness if my body is a colony of SEPARATE cells?! Just as Bruce
Lipton, Candace says that consciousness is primary. I think that is
correct. With training we should be able to have tremendous conscious
control over our health. Consciousness must be a very high and
intelligent form of energy.

al.

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> Does God get curious?
>
>   Margaret
>

I don't think of God as an entity. I think reality is driven by an
infinite powerful Force. As individuals we ARE that force. We cannot
reach the tip of the arrow of the force, but we can get closer to it.
The moving closer to the blazing tip of the force is personal evolution.

If this is true, then ultimatlely there is nothing to fear, because
the force cuts through ALL mess all the time.

May the Force be with you. :)

al.

Does god get curious?
   Well it all depends on how you define god? In my experience if I get curious
than surely god also gets curious. As Ramtha would say "god only knows what you
know" In my experince curiousity is a wonderfull tool, It reminds me of my
innocence. For me, it is curiosity that that grently pushes me towards the dark
in to the unknown for Im so curious of what lays on the other side xoxoxoox

anders_lindman <anders_lindman@...> wrote:
           --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> Does God get curious?
>
> Margaret
>

I don't think of God as an entity. I think reality is driven by an
infinite powerful Force. As individuals we ARE that force. We cannot
reach the tip of the arrow of the force, but we can get closer to it.
The moving closer to the blazing tip of the force is personal evolution.

If this is true, then ultimatlely there is nothing to fear, because
the force cuts through ALL mess all the time.

May the Force be with you. :)

al.






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If god did not get curious, then there would still be only a
slumbering void.


--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> Does God get curious?
>
>   Margaret
>

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so you are saying God in progress

rhdragsa <rhdragsa@...> wrote:          Look at a puppie. Look at a
hominid child. There's your answer.

If god did not get curious, then there would still be only a
slumbering void.

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> Does God get curious?
>
> Margaret
>






God Bless

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Is curiosity living in the now. For curiosity is a wonder about the
future..isn't it?

   Margaret

naz ersan <nazersan@...> wrote:
           Does god get curious?
Well it all depends on how you define god? In my experience if I get curious
than surely god also gets curious. As Ramtha would say "god only knows what you
know" In my experince curiousity is a wonderfull tool, It reminds me of my
innocence. For me, it is curiosity that that grently pushes me towards the dark
in to the unknown for Im so curious of what lays on the other side xoxoxoox

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--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> Does God get curious?
>
> Margaret
>

I don't think of God as an entity. I think reality is driven by an
infinite powerful Force. As individuals we ARE that force. We cannot
reach the tip of the arrow of the force, but we can get closer to it.
The moving closer to the blazing tip of the force is personal evolution.

If this is true, then ultimatlely there is nothing to fear, because
the force cuts through ALL mess all the time.

May the Force be with you. :)

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Always.

When curiosity ends, then (present) life becomes mechanical and
unfulfilling.



--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> so you are saying God in progress
>
> rhdragsa <rhdragsa@...> wrote:          Look at a puppie. Look at
a hominid child. There's your answer.
>
> If god did not get curious, then there would still be only a
> slumbering void.
>
> --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
> <beleafherbstea@> wrote:
> >
> > Does God get curious?
> >
> > Margaret
> >
>

Curiosity brings the future into the present. It is related to
the bend that looks like a sheperds crook in the line of energy that
runs up from the 5th seal (throat) up into the brain then curves
forward and down to the 7th seal (minds eye/pituitary). [looking
at the body from the side]. Can you feel that bend? 'Focus' also
derives from that.




--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> Is curiosity living in the now. For curiosity is a wonder about the
future..isn't it?
>
>   Margaret
>

can one FEEL time??? Karen and I shared an experience when we were
together last night while BE-ing an in analogical state of mind. In
the past this has felt like time slowing down, but I believe we were
specificly recognsing the energetic movement of time.

The question that arises with this, is the idea that time is an
illusion. But does time create an energetic movement or responce in
the quantum field  that can be translated into the brain as energy. Or
is it that my mind is just perceiving the LACK of space between the
two points of conciouness??

I am remembering that while we were in that, we could feel a large
increase in the fields around our phsycial bodies. It felt really
powerful. Hummmmm any ideas???


LLLLLL

So are you saying that we never reach the state of all knowing,  completeness.
Is someone like Ramtha still curios?

   Margaret

rhdragsa <rhdragsa@...> wrote:          Always.

When curiosity ends, then (present) life becomes mechanical and
unfulfilling.

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> so you are saying God in progress
>
> rhdragsa <rhdragsa@...> wrote: Look at a puppie. Look at
a hominid child. There's your answer.
>
> If god did not get curious, then there would still be only a
> slumbering void.
>
> --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
> <beleafherbstea@> wrote:
> >
> > Does God get curious?
> >
> > Margaret
> >
>






God Bless

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Absolutely! All kinds of time!

Or.....it that an energetic movement/response in the quantum
field is itself what creates the varieties of 'time' (and
'space')?

Feels like what you term 'the LACK of space between the two
points of conciouness' to me. Alterations of the 'space' between
primary and secondary.

I would heartily endorse messing with time whenever you got the
time to do it.




--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "laurarice333"
<laurarice3333@...> wrote:
>
> can one FEEL time??? Karen and I shared an experience when we were
> together last night while BE-ing an in analogical state of mind.
In
> the past this has felt like time slowing down, but I believe we
were
> specificly recognsing the energetic movement of time.
>
> The question that arises with this, is the idea that time is an
> illusion. But does time create an energetic movement or responce
in
> the quantum field  that can be translated into the brain as
energy. Or
> is it that my mind is just perceiving the LACK of space between
the
> two points of conciouness??
>
> I am remembering that while we were in that, we could feel a large
> increase in the fields around our phsycial bodies. It felt really
> powerful. Hummmmm any ideas???
>
>
> LLLLLL
>

We come from the 'One' you know. Now, the One wants to know the
many. Completeness is always inherent in the present moment and
always will be;) And we return to that - really - with each breath.
But we are involved in a creative process of folding in and out.
An absolute state would be static. One look at the universe should
indicate that god is anything but static. As Ramtha said in
Self-Betrayal (video), the declaration is not 'I am what I am',
but rather, 'I am becoming that which I am becoming'. That is
ongoing. Forward into absolute elsewhere. This is why the line
between primary and secondary bends over and to the front. It is
why the hands are held out in front of the 4th seal (point zero)
and not over the top of the head.


--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, BeLeaf "®"
<beleafherbstea@...> wrote:
>
> So are you saying that we never reach the state of all knowing,
completeness. Is someone like Ramtha still curios?
>
>   Margaret
>

good one
   I hope I do get the time to mess around with time

   Margaret

rhdragsa <rhdragsa@...> wrote:
           Absolutely! All kinds of time!

Or.....it that an energetic movement/response in the quantum
field is itself what creates the varieties of 'time' (and
'space')?

Feels like what you term 'the LACK of space between the two
points of conciouness' to me. Alterations of the 'space' between
primary and secondary.

I would heartily endorse messing with time whenever you got the
time to do it.

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "laurarice333"
<laurarice3333@...> wrote:
>
> can one FEEL time??? Karen and I shared an experience when we were
> together last night while BE-ing an in analogical state of mind.
In
> the past this has felt like time slowing down, but I believe we
were
> specificly recognsing the energetic movement of time.
>
> The question that arises with this, is the idea that time is an
> illusion. But does time create an energetic movement or responce
in
> the quantum field that can be translated into the brain as
energy. Or
> is it that my mind is just perceiving the LACK of space between
the
> two points of conciouness??
>
> I am remembering that while we were in that, we could feel a large
> increase in the fields around our phsycial bodies. It felt really
> powerful. Hummmmm any ideas???
>
>
> LLLLLL
>






God Bless

"Never see the glass half empty or have full...BUT!! overflowing."
"If you have to think twice about the answer "YESS", think once about your reply
"No" M.M.

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--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "laurarice333"
<laurarice3333@...> wrote:
>
> can one FEEL time??? Karen and I shared an experience when we were
> together last night while BE-ing an in analogical state of mind. In
> the past this has felt like time slowing down, but I believe we were
> specificly recognsing the energetic movement of time.
>
> The question that arises with this, is the idea that time is an
> illusion. But does time create an energetic movement or responce in
> the quantum field  that can be translated into the brain as energy. Or
> is it that my mind is just perceiving the LACK of space between the
> two points of conciouness??
>
> I am remembering that while we were in that, we could feel a large
> increase in the fields around our phsycial bodies. It felt really
> powerful. Hummmmm any ideas???
>
>
> LLLLLL
>


There is the change of the present moment. We can call that physical
time. That kind of time is the most objective. Nobody can deny that
there is change happening in the now.

The other kind of time is psychological time which is a feeling in
relation to thought. This is a more subjective form of time, but
absolutely not an illusion. If we say: "Santa Claus exists for real",
then that is probably an illusion, but our sense of psychological time
is a first hand (first person perspective) sensing of time that we
cannot deny without trying to fool ourselves.

al.

Al,

I believe time is not an illusion, for it is the rate of change
relative to some measure.

It is most peoples idea or definition of time that is the improper.
There is no true constant to measure against, so the idea of absolute
with time cannot be truth.

Both your physical and the other time are essentially the same and
each of the same illusion.
peace, Chuck

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck" <chtomlin@...>
wrote:
>
> Al,
>
> I believe time is not an illusion, for it is the rate of change
> relative to some measure.
>
> It is most peoples idea or definition of time that is the improper.
> There is no true constant to measure against, so the idea of absolute
> with time cannot be truth.
>
> Both your physical and the other time are essentially the same and
> each of the same illusion.
> peace, Chuck
>

There is one big difference between the flow of time in the now, and
time in the form of thinking about past or future. When we think about
past or the future then we hold a thought about time suspended in the
now. For example, when we think about what we want to do tomorrow,
then those thoughts are "held" in the mind even though the time in the
now keeps on flowing. The mind "constructs" a past or a future.

Then there is also clock time and calendar time, who are relative to
Earth's movement around the sun. We don't know with 100% certaintly
that there will be Thursday tomorrow, but it is in practicality certain.

al.

Al, I'm not sure I follow you. You say there is a big
difference in these kinds of time, but they are all just
measured realative to a "believed constant". The only
difference I see is what they are measured relative to.
peace, Chuck

--- anders_lindman <anders_lindman@...> wrote:

> --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck"
> <chtomlin@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Al,
> >
> > I believe time is not an illusion, for it is the rate of
> change
> > relative to some measure.
> >
> > It is most peoples idea or definition of time that is the
> improper.
> > There is no true constant to measure against, so the idea
> of absolute
> > with time cannot be truth.
> >
> > Both your physical and the other time are essentially the
> same and
> > each of the same illusion.
> > peace, Chuck
> >
>
> There is one big difference between the flow of time in the
> now, and
> time in the form of thinking about past or future. When we
> think about
> past or the future then we hold a thought about time
> suspended in the
> now. For example, when we think about what we want to do
> tomorrow,
> then those thoughts are "held" in the mind even though the
> time in the
> now keeps on flowing. The mind "constructs" a past or a
> future.
>
> Then there is also clock time and calendar time, who are
> relative to
> Earth's movement around the sun. We don't know with 100%
> certaintly
> that there will be Thursday tomorrow, but it is in
> practicality certain.
>
> al.
>
>
>
>
>


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--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Tomlin
<chtomlin@...> wrote:
>
> Al, I'm not sure I follow you. You say there is a big
> difference in these kinds of time, but they are all just
> measured realative to a "believed constant". The only
> difference I see is what they are measured relative to.
> peace, Chuck
>

Yes, but what we are measuring relative to is not an illusion. We
cannot say "I don't exist". That would be absurd.

Psychological time is a bit floating. Sometimes 5 minutes can seem
like a very long time, while at other times 2 hours can pass by
seemingly very quickly. But no one would say that 5 minutes is longer
than 2 hours. An hour is absolutely longer than a minute.

Consciousness does not move in relation to time. The mind
"freezes/holds" thoughts about past and future in the now, and that is
what I mean by psychological time. All thinking is a freezing/holding
information suspended in the now. Thoughts appear in streams, but they
are always held in short-term memory as a whole chunk of information,
or we wouldn't be able to understand our own thoughts. The same with
psychological time. You can notice this short-term memory window for
yourself by reading this sentence and notive that you hold the entire
sentence in your short-term memory, while previous sentences in this
post fade into long-term memory, out of reach of your awareness
because the mind can only hold a limited amount of information at each
moment.

al.

But AL, I had a thought reading your post...what if I wasnt freezing
the stream/wave....what if I was in the wave..isnt that being in the
moment..when this reality in time appears to have stopped...isnt the
Void with out motion? Isnt movement of thoughts the expression of
time??? Hummm the questions just keep flowing in instead of an
answer...THAT sounds like a pyramid turning in on itself, doesnt it??

All of our ideas are still floating around the idea of the body
being the focal point of perception of time..what if I moved my body
out into the stream that doesnt stop...from #1 to #7 and back. I
have heard before that flesh and bones cant transend, but what about
the Masters that DO come back and forth at will in a phsycial
body..isnt that what they are doing??? Or is even that an illusion
that they play into the conciousness of all??

Sorry to only add more fuel to our fire, but then, I want to create
the unknown, MORE than what we KNOW from learning from our Ramtha
studies...there is always more...and I know point zero at the top of
that pyramid, is only the begining...

Thanks so much for your interesting responces Chuck and AL.

LLL

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "anders_lindman"
<anders_lindman@...> wrote:
>
> --- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Tomlin
> <chtomlin@> wrote:
> >
> > Al, I'm not sure I follow you. You say there is a big
> > difference in these kinds of time, but they are all just
> > measured realative to a "believed constant". The only
> > difference I see is what they are measured relative to.
> > peace, Chuck
> >
>
> Yes, but what we are measuring relative to is not an illusion. We
> cannot say "I don't exist". That would be absurd.
>
> Psychological time is a bit floating. Sometimes 5 minutes can seem
> like a very long time, while at other times 2 hours can pass by
> seemingly very quickly. But no one would say that 5 minutes is
longer
> than 2 hours. An hour is absolutely longer than a minute.
>
> Consciousness does not move in relation to time. The mind
> "freezes/holds" thoughts about past and future in the now, and
that is
> what I mean by psychological time. All thinking is a
freezing/holding
> information suspended in the now. Thoughts appear in streams, but
they
> are always held in short-term memory as a whole chunk of
information,
> or we wouldn't be able to understand our own thoughts. The same
with
> psychological time. You can notice this short-term memory window
for
> yourself by reading this sentence and notive that you hold the
entire
> sentence in your short-term memory, while previous sentences in
this
> post fade into long-term memory, out of reach of your awareness
> because the mind can only hold a limited amount of information at
each
> moment.
>
> al.
>

LLL, et al:

The current discussions concerning time, space, body-mind, Consciousness,
Oneness, the role of the physical entity called Christ in Man/Woman,
opposites, addiction, and FOCUS!, are eloquently addressed and answered in
the CURRENT LIVE series?

--- BEGIN INSERT FROM BTO

  ~~~~~~~ EVERY DAY ~~~~~~~
                            Ramtha teachings
             "The Difference Between Consciousness and Mind"
                 Advanced Evening August, 1992 Part 1 of 2
    (To accommodate time zones 9AM, 4PM, 8PM, & Midnight Pacific time)


The Quote:

"What I am teaching you here is that you have options, and to be wise
in the things which you confront every day in your experience. For this
reason the emotion that weighs on the soul determines your destiny." -
Ramtha

--- END INSERT FROM BTO


Why get lost in Sherwood when a clear path has already been cleared through
the forest within this lesson.  I'd also recommend the series which just
ended yesterday, "Awakening the God Within," and "The Time Spiral."


P.S. - Be prepared to eat humble pie, and THEN bog away. ;)

~`Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of laurarice333
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:54 AM
To: BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet] Re: question on time

But AL, I had a thought reading your post...what if I wasnt freezing the
stream/wave....what if I was in the wave..isnt that being in the
moment..when this reality in time appears to have stopped...isnt the Void
with out motion? Isnt movement of thoughts the expression of time??? Hummm
the questions just keep flowing in instead of an answer...THAT sounds like a
pyramid turning in on itself, doesnt it??

All of our ideas are still floating around the idea of the body being the
focal point of perception of time..what if I moved my body out into the
stream that doesnt stop...from #1 to #7 and back. I have heard before that
flesh and bones cant transend, but what about the Masters that DO come back
and forth at will in a phsycial body..isnt that what they are doing??? Or is
even that an illusion that they play into the conciousness of all??

Sorry to only add more fuel to our fire, but then, I want to create the
unknown, MORE than what we KNOW from learning from our Ramtha
studies...there is always more...and I know point zero at the top of that
pyramid, is only the begining...

Thanks so much for your interesting responces Chuck and AL.

LLL

HEY ALL,

I GOT SUCH A COOL STORY FOR EVERYONE. I'M IN SCHOOL RIGHT NOW, AND I
WAS JUST IN MATH CLASS. I WAS SITTING THERE, KINDA DEPRESSED AND
DOZING OFF, THEN I SUDDENLY STARTED HEARING WIND CHIME MUSIC IN MY
LEFT EAR. SO I TEXTED MESSAGED MY FRIEND TOM WHO I HANG OUT WITH
OFTEN, AND I SAID ""MUSIC, WIND CHIME TO LEFT".

TOM REPLIED WITH "HOLY SHIT, YES! I JUST PUT IT ON".

SO THIS GOT ME OUT OF MY DEPRESSION AND I REALIZED I AM NOT MY BODY/OR
THAT I AM MORE THAN MY BODY IN TERMS OF MY 5 SENSES. THANK YOU NON
LOCALITY!

P.S. I UNDERSTAND HOW SKEPTICS WOULD BE LIKE MAN I DONT BELIEVE THAT,
OR THATS BS..........BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU. I WOULDNT BELIEVE IT EITHER
UNLESS IVE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE. IM SO F*&%ING GRATEFUL FOR IT.

-CHARLES

Thank you for sharing this Ron. We have a Shaman friend who does his
own thing. He is not interested in knowledge. He thinks he can learn
from experience only. I wondered about his way and I got a message. I
was told it is better to have a map from the One's who went before. I
was told we could always do our own thing which would eventually work
out too. Meaning it would take a bit longer without the instructions.
The message went on to say that it is like baking a chicken in the
oven without a pan. The chicken would still get cooked but there will
be a mess to clean up after. Better to have the recipe that tells you
to use a pan. I believe the pan symbolizes knowledge handed down from
the Ones who already followed the path to enlightenment.

This makes sense to me. So I follow the teachings of the Mystery
School and when my lessons are complete...from there it is free
space. What I create from there will be based on the sure foundation
of Knowledge. Love, Karen

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, PLAEDES <plaedes@...>
wrote:
>
> LLL, et al:
>
> The current discussions concerning time, space, body-mind,
Consciousness,
> Oneness, the role of the physical entity called Christ in Man/Woman,
> opposites, addiction, and FOCUS!, are eloquently addressed and
answered in
> the CURRENT LIVE series?
>
> --- BEGIN INSERT FROM BTO
>
>  ~~~~~~~ EVERY DAY ~~~~~~~
>                            Ramtha teachings
>             "The Difference Between Consciousness and Mind"
>                 Advanced Evening August, 1992 Part 1 of 2
>    (To accommodate time zones 9AM, 4PM, 8PM, & Midnight Pacific
time)
>
>
> The Quote:
>
> "What I am teaching you here is that you have options, and to be
wise
> in the things which you confront every day in your experience. For
this
> reason the emotion that weighs on the soul determines your
destiny." -
> Ramtha
>
> --- END INSERT FROM BTO
>
>
> Why get lost in Sherwood when a clear path has already been cleared
through
> the forest within this lesson.  I'd also recommend the series which
just
> ended yesterday, "Awakening the God Within," and "The Time Spiral."
>
>
> P.S. - Be prepared to eat humble pie, and THEN bog away. ;)
>
> ~`Ron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
laurarice333
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:54 AM
> To: BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet] Re: question on time
>
> But AL, I had a thought reading your post...what if I wasnt
freezing the
> stream/wave....what if I was in the wave..isnt that being in the
> moment..when this reality in time appears to have stopped...isnt
the Void
> with out motion? Isnt movement of thoughts the expression of
time??? Hummm
> the questions just keep flowing in instead of an answer...THAT
sounds like a
> pyramid turning in on itself, doesnt it??
>
> All of our ideas are still floating around the idea of the body
being the
> focal point of perception of time..what if I moved my body out into
the
> stream that doesnt stop...from #1 to #7 and back. I have heard
before that
> flesh and bones cant transend, but what about the Masters that DO
come back
> and forth at will in a phsycial body..isnt that what they are
doing??? Or is
> even that an illusion that they play into the conciousness of all??
>
> Sorry to only add more fuel to our fire, but then, I want to create
the
> unknown, MORE than what we KNOW from learning from our Ramtha
> studies...there is always more...and I know point zero at the top
of that
> pyramid, is only the begining...
>
> Thanks so much for your interesting responces Chuck and AL.
>
> LLL
>

I think we need the ability to "hold" thoughts in the mind. To only
flow with the moment would not make us able to see into the future, or
thinking about the past etc.

However, one problem is perhaps that we hold on to "time" all the time
so to speak. It would be more powerful to be able to only use
psychological time when we want to. More like a tool than something
hanging over our shoulders as a burden. We carry a huge amount of old
emotional crap around all the time. And a huge amount of future
problems we have to deal with. That's why many people seek
distractions from their minds, because as soon as the distraction is
not there the heavy load of unprocessed psychological time wells up.
Nothing wrong with distractions such as entertainment, excessive work
etc, but if we only have that as our contentment we become emotional
junkies.

I don't know exactly what the Void is. Is it the source of all
creation? If so, then the Void is more like living energy than merely
a timeless "void".

And stepping into other forms of time can be possible I guess.

al.

--- In BeyondtheOrdinarydotNet@yahoogroups.com, "laurarice333"
<laurarice3333@...> wrote:
>
> But AL, I had a thought reading your post...what if I wasnt freezing
> the stream/wave....what if I was in the wave..isnt that being in the
> moment..when this reality in time appears to have stopped...isnt the
> Void with out motion? Isnt movement of thoughts the expression of
> time??? Hummm the questions just keep flowing in instead of an
> answer...THAT sounds like a pyramid turning in on itself, doesnt it??
>
> All of our ideas are still floating around the idea of the body
> being the focal point of perception of time..what if I moved my body
> out into the stream that doesnt stop...from #1 to #7 and back. I
> have heard before that flesh and bones cant transend, but what about
> the Masters that DO come back and forth at will in a phsycial
> body..isnt that what they are doing??? Or is even that an illusion
> that they play into the conciousness of all??
>
> Sorry to only add more fuel to our fire, but then, I want to create
> the unknown, MORE than what we KNOW from learning from our Ramtha
> studies...there is always more...and I know point zero at the top of
> that pyramid, is only the begining...
>
> Thanks so much for your interesting responces Chuck and AL.
>
> LLL
>