First time I've checked in for a while only to find myself a topic of conversation! I'd be more than happy to test something else if it's helpful. Jerry...
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Pete Beatty
pbeatty30
Mar 4, 2012 8:18 pm
Earl, I have been looking at the Beatty all table and have noticed that there is a very clear clustering of data around the 448 marker that is not recognized ...
3906
peter.beattie2
peterbt2001
Mar 4, 2012 8:25 pm
Hi Jerry Thanks for your offer and reply. I am the one that queried your position in the Beatty 01 Group. Mainly because you are L159.2 negative and also for...
3907
duckdawgnh
Mar 4, 2012 9:51 pm
Hello Peter, Thanks for the reply. I'd be happy to discuss my background - what sorts of information would you like? I believe my GEDCOM is available on FTDNA...
3908
peter.beattie2
peterbt2001
Mar 4, 2012 10:10 pm
Hi Jerry Thanks for that my ysearch ID is T78VB and am stuck in Co Sligo Ireland c1776 earliest estimated birth date. There were certainly Beatty/Beaty...
3909
peter.beattie2
peterbt2001
Mar 5, 2012 5:08 am
Hi Pete Interesting. Are you saying that these are all in the Beatty family or are they Byrnes? What are their deep clade results? Have they tested downstream...
3910
Earl Beaty
ecbeaty
Mar 5, 2012 6:09 pm
Pete, STR448 is a very special marker for Beattys. The mode in R1b1a is 19 and all of our Beattys in Group 01 are less than that. All of our Beattys not in ...
3911
peter.beattie2
peterbt2001
Mar 5, 2012 8:37 pm
Hi Earl and Jerry I would agree with you Earl. My view is because of a possible 'mobile characteristic of L159' where when its positive it could turn up...
3912
Earl Beaty
ecbeaty
Mar 5, 2012 8:38 pm
Jerry, You present two problems in fitting together the puzzle. 1. You are Z255+ and ccgg, but L259.2-. 2. You are indicated to be a member of Beatty Group...
3913
Hubert
hubertcarmack
Mar 6, 2012 5:53 pm
This is posted for general comment. It was my DNA in which the L159.2 was discovered. With all the new "numbers" and "groups" that are being discussed, is...
3914
duckdawgnh
Mar 6, 2012 6:34 pm
I would agree with the possibility of an NPE considering the dearth of matching Nicholsons in the databases. Just have to ferret out timelines now....
3915
Pete Beatty
pbeatty30
Mar 6, 2012 7:16 pm
Earl, Peter and Jerry I believe that assigning Jerry to the Beatty Group 01 is in error. I do believe that Jerry is one of many project members that make up a...
3916
mikewww7
Mar 6, 2012 7:39 pm
I tried to break up Z255 (including Iris Sea/Leinster) into 11 different clusters. I couldn't fit f150687 Nicholson into any of the 11 subgroups so I left as...
3917
Pete Beatty
pbeatty30
Mar 6, 2012 9:05 pm
Mike, I just looked at you definitions for the 255-1830-IS-B1/B2 and have a question. Your definitions are: 255-1830-IS-B1: 448<=18 449>=30 442=11 449<=29...
3918
mikewww7
Mar 7, 2012 2:28 am
Pete, sorry. My spreadsheet labels in the Clade tab need updating. Below is what they should be. As I display this I will show you a statistical summary for...
3919
Pete Beatty
pbeatty30
Mar 7, 2012 4:16 am
Mike Thanks for the great information. If I could impose a little since I am having a bad senior moment and a very bad head cold. Could you briefly explain...
3920
mikewww7
Mar 7, 2012 4:45 am
To be clear, the speculative subgroups I defined are only ones I thought were discernible. There are many, many 253-1830-IS* people which I can not fit into a...
3921
peter.beattie2
peterbt2001
Mar 7, 2012 9:57 am
Hi Mike Yes I would agree with you about the very old surnames that are Z255*. It indicates that the IS-Leinsters branched off the main tree much later and...
3922
Pete Beatty
pbeatty30
Mar 7, 2012 10:14 pm
Mike, Thanks for the information. It is just what I needed. Pete...
3923
craig
craigpgaston
Mar 8, 2012 12:24 am
... Mike, what information are you using to get the Gaston values? There are two Gastons (and one Taylor who has our haplotype) in this project. However, we...
3924
mikewww7
Mar 8, 2012 12:59 am
Craig, this file has a collection of all the R-L21 confirmed and suspected I can find from major FTDNA public projects. ...
3925
craig
craigpgaston
Mar 8, 2012 2:39 am
10 of those people are in our Gaston project, Mike. Only about three of these have tested for R-L21 and R-L155.2. I have flagged with an X (below) those who...
3926
Earl Beaty
ecbeaty
Mar 8, 2012 11:26 pm
Hubert, I have some suggestions for you to think about. The relationship between Z255 and L159.2 seems to be confused. I believe the general expectation is...
3927
mikewww7
Mar 8, 2012 11:46 pm
For those considering DYS435, please consider the whole upgrade to 111 STRs. We now have almost 800 L21+ 111 STR haplotypes. Any one STR can always be an...
3928
marosjor
Mar 10, 2012 6:00 pm
Hi Earl, Kit 12757 (O'Shea) has tested on DYS435 and is 11. Does this help? Regards, Margaret...
3929
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