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Re: Family Finder

I've done both the Family Finder test by FTDNA and the Relative Finder test with
23andMe. Outside of close relatives (2nd cousin and closer), the predicted
relationship is quite often wrong, no matter which company does the testing.
This is based on my own experience and comments in the forums at each site.
It's better to ignore the predicted cousin relationship and instead look more at
the range of the predicted relationships - in most cases, the actual
relationship is going to be closer to the more distant relationship in the
range.

In my opinion, the biggest obstacle one faces when coming from doing YDNA
testing to autosomal testing is getting to the point of understanding that NOT
matching someone with atDNA testing does not mean that your tree is wrong and
you're not related to that person after all. It usually means that each of
inherited different bits of DNA from your ancestors. Of course, it can also
mean that there's an NPE in somebody's background. But, just based on cases
where my maternal uncle has matches that I don't (and I've read posts from
others on the various forums about this), I think it's more likely that the NPE
issue, while real for some people, is not the norm.

atDNA testing really requires the testees to have trees that are as fully filled
out as possible, and it can also lead you learning things you never knew before.
I was a history major in college, but I'd never heard of the colony of New
Sweden until I ended up with some predicted cousins who had ancestry in Sweden
and Norway - most of my lines were in North American before 1800, and a good
portion of those were here before 1700.

Cathy Roberts


--- In Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com, "craig" <craigpgaston@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> That's my experience too, Jim. I have about a dozen matches on the same range
of SNPs on chromosome 1 (111:150 or so) (some listed as close as 4th cousins).
One of them has done a heroic job of trying to find what ancestor(s) we all have
in common but no luck so far. I suspect that the match is more distant than
FTDNA estimates because of marriages between close relations. Probably a healthy
percentage of the US and UK population would match us on this segment :-)
>
> One thing about this test is that it forces you to look more closely at your
other ancestors than those in your paternal line.
>
> Craig
>
> --- In Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com, Jim McKnight <mcknight77@> wrote:
> >
> > I have many 'cousins' found on Family Finder, but have yet to establish a
paper trail to any of them.
> >  
> > Jim
> >
> > From: "Enrique Treat Gleason, Esq." <treatgleason@>
> > To: Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: treatgleason@
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Beatty_Byrnes_DNA] Family Finder
> >
> >
> >  
> > You won’t regret it at all!  I think it is the best investment in that
you will accomplish more with FTDNA’s Family Finder than with any other
genealogical service on the market.  I’ve been able to connect with 2nd, 3rd,
4th, 5th, and beyond fifth cousins from all over the world!  It will take about
4 to 5 weeks for you the get your results.
> >  
> > From:Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vinny
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:41 PM
> > To: Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Beatty_Byrnes_DNA] Family Finder
> >  
> >  
> > Okay so I havent done much latley with my DNA and family stuff.. But I just
ordered Family Finder today. Im excited to see the results...
> >
>





Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:24 pm

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We have an opportunity to select some of our members to get an early test from FTDNA using their new Family Finder test system. Below is a message sent to...
Earl Beaty
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Feb 25, 2010
11:45 pm

I had already been contacted and ordered on my own, just for general information. Sparky     Notice of Confidentiality: The information included and/or...
sparky_mclaughlin@...
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Feb 26, 2010
1:16 am

Thanks, Sparky. I think it is helpful that you have identified yourself. I think that a lot of the value of the Family Finder will be for making busting...
dnalister@...
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Feb 26, 2010
6:56 pm

Kirsten, do you think FTDNA would give any priority to the WTY participants on which they already have expanded research on file?...
Hubert
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Feb 26, 2010
9:11 pm

Yes, I have seen some evidence of that. Some of the WTY project participants have ordered the Family Finder. I don't know whether all of them were invited. I...
dnalister@...
kirstensaxe Offline Send Email
Feb 26, 2010
9:19 pm

Well, I just called FTDNA, and they said that they have sent out the invitations that they were going to send, at least for now. Let's put you on the list of...
dnalister@...
kirstensaxe Offline Send Email
Feb 26, 2010
9:55 pm

I have emailed FTDNA as you indicated and asked them to issue the invite and to also check on my being listed on their email list for administrators. Pete ...
Pete Beatty
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Feb 26, 2010
10:02 pm

I would be interested in the beta. Pete From: Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dnalister@... ...
Pete Beatty
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Feb 26, 2010
10:03 pm

I think that as an administrator who is also a project member, you should feel free to issue your invitation to invite yourself. I'm going to guess that Earl...
dnalister@...
kirstensaxe Offline Send Email
Feb 26, 2010
10:15 pm

Oh, make that seven to eight people who are interested, although they are not necessarily all in a hurry. Earl knows of three others, and some may be able to...
dnalister@...
kirstensaxe Offline Send Email
Feb 26, 2010
10:27 pm

No I haven't Kirsten. I think an inquiry to Dale would be better received if from you. Dale is a member of Carmack Family One while my line is Family Three. My...
Hubert
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Feb 27, 2010
2:11 am

   Sorry to be skeptical, but I don't see how knowing that a person is a fourth to ninth cousin is, but not knowing how we connect, is going to help me....
pabloburns@...
burnspaulj Offline Send Email
Feb 27, 2010
9:11 pm

Paul seems to make some very good points and observations. On his comment about 67 Markers...I have five matches at a distance of 5,six at a distance of 6 and...
Hubert
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Feb 28, 2010
4:12 pm

I think you're actually right to see that finding that one has Family Finder matches with people will not usually lead to immediate paper trail connections...
dnalister@...
kirstensaxe Offline Send Email
Feb 28, 2010
5:15 pm

Having those matches at the higher GDs like 5, 6, and 7 is pretty typical for our project members. Probably most of those matches share ancestry with you in...
dnalister@...
kirstensaxe Offline Send Email
Feb 28, 2010
6:07 pm

Okay so I havent done much latley with my DNA and family stuff.. But I just ordered Family Finder today. Im excited to see the results......
Vinny
vinnyart Offline Send Email
Feb 13, 2012
9:41 pm

You won't regret it at all! I think it is the best investment in that you will accomplish more with FTDNA's Family Finder than with any other genealogical...
Enrique Treat Gleason...
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Feb 14, 2012
12:54 am

Wow! Thats cool that u were able to connect with so many people......
Vinny
vinnyart Offline Send Email
Feb 14, 2012
1:54 am

I have to agree - the Family Finder test is my favorite of all the DNA tests and I too have made contact with many cousins I did not know! Patricia Sent from...
Patricia
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Feb 14, 2012
1:55 am

I have many 'cousins' found on Family Finder, but have yet to establish a paper trail to any of them.   Jim From: "Enrique Treat Gleason, Esq."...
Jim McKnight
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Feb 14, 2012
2:20 am

That's my experience too, Jim. I have about a dozen matches on the same range of SNPs on chromosome 1 (111:150 or so) (some listed as close as 4th cousins)....
craig
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Feb 14, 2012
11:41 am

I've done both the Family Finder test by FTDNA and the Relative Finder test with 23andMe. Outside of close relatives (2nd cousin and closer), the predicted...
Cathy R
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Feb 14, 2012
8:24 pm
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