At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
>I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
>Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
>$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the
>best route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way
>to add the Propane hardware?
>
>Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.

Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.

Andrew. (UK)

If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question would be
which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less pollutants
in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?  Charcoal
certainly makes it taste better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Lawton
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?

At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
>I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
>Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
>$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the best
>route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way to add
>the Propane hardware?
>
>Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.

Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.

Andrew. (UK)




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If you want gas why bother with a bandera?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bark Woof
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:38 PM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?

If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question would be
which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less pollutants
in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?  Charcoal
certainly makes it taste better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Lawton
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?

At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
>I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
>Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
>$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the best
>route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way to add
>the Propane hardware?
>
>Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.

Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.

Andrew. (UK)




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I have been following this latest thread about whether or not to convert to
propane.  Let me add my 2 cents.

Since meat does not take any more "smoke" after it reaches 140 degrees, why
not just remove your item, wrap it in foil to retain moisture, and put it in
a 250 degree oven?  It not only will accomplish the same thing (cooking your
meat), but it is far more economical than propane or charcoal.  I enjoy
using my Bandera, but find that I make better use of my time yanking the
stuff off and throwing it in the oven, and getting on to other tasks at
hand.

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
To: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: [Bandera] Digest Number 1563



There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

    1.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
          From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
    2.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
          From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
    3.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
          From: "Greg Geilman" ggeilman@...

________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 1
    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 7:19 am (PDT)
    From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?


At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
>I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
>Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
>$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the
>best route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way
>to add the Propane hardware?
>
>Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.

Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.

Andrew. (UK)




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Message: 2
    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:39 am (PDT)
    From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?


If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question would be
which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less pollutants
in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?  Charcoal
certainly makes it taste better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Lawton
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?

At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
>I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
>Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
>$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the best
>route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way to add
>the Propane hardware?
>
>Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.

Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.

Andrew. (UK)




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Message: 3
    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 1:10 pm (PDT)
    From: "Greg Geilman" ggeilman@...
Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?


If you want gas why bother with a bandera?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bark Woof
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:38 PM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?

If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question would be
which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less pollutants
in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?  Charcoal
certainly makes it taste better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Lawton
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?

At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
>I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
>Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
>$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the best
>route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way to add
>the Propane hardware?
>
>Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.

Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.

Andrew. (UK)




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I am a novice at smoking but I have seem a few posts on several forums
that seems to support your point of view.

--- In Bandera@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <scottprins@...> wrote:
>
> I have been following this latest thread about whether or not to
convert to
> propane.  Let me add my 2 cents.
>
> Since meat does not take any more "smoke" after it reaches 140
degrees, why
> not just remove your item, wrap it in foil to retain moisture, and
put it in
> a 250 degree oven?  It not only will accomplish the same thing
(cooking your
> meat), but it is far more economical than propane or charcoal.  I enjoy
> using my Bandera, but find that I make better use of my time yanking the
> stuff off and throwing it in the oven, and getting on to other tasks at
> hand.
>
> Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Bandera] Digest Number 1563
>
>
>
> There are 3 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>    1.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>          From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
>    2.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>          From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
>    3.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>          From: "Greg Geilman" ggeilman@...
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 7:19 am (PDT)
>    From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
> Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the
> >best route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way
> >to add the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.
>
> Andrew. (UK)
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:39 am (PDT)
>    From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
> Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
>
> If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question
would be
> which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
> Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less
pollutants
> in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?  Charcoal
> certainly makes it taste better.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Andrew Lawton
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the best
> >route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way to add
> >the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.
>
> Andrew. (UK)
>
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> Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
>
> If you want gas why bother with a bandera?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Bark Woof
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:38 PM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
> If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question
would be
> which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
> Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less
pollutants
> in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?  Charcoal
> certainly makes it taste better.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Andrew Lawton
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the best
> >route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way to add
> >the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is not.
>
> Andrew. (UK)
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Ok guys now that there is some discussion about converting the Bandera
to propane with a few passionate responses lets please think about
another comparsion.  I have looked at the Bandera and the GOSM (Great
Outdoors Smoky Mountain)Big Block propane smoker for the last 2-3
years.  I now have the Ok from the bosswoman (that means wife to all
of you that have not been married)to buy a smoker I am requesting your
experienced opinion.  Please tell me in your honest opinion the pros
and cons of the two smokers when compared to each other.

Thanks for your time!

aint the bandera great with all the option one has be
it charcoal or gas and the amount of food you can
cook.love mine.
--- Bandera@yahoogroups.com <auee76@...>
wrote:
> I am a novice at smoking but I have seem a few posts
on several forums
> that seems to support your point of view.
>
> --- In Bandera@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
<scottprins@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have been following this latest thread about
whether or not to
> convert to
> > propane.  Let me add my 2 cents.
> >
> > Since meat does not take any more "smoke" after it
reaches 140
> degrees, why
> > not just remove your item, wrap it in foil to
retain moisture, and
> put it in
> > a 250 degree oven?  It not only will accomplish
the same thing
> (cooking your
> > meat), but it is far more economical than propane
or charcoal.  I enjoy
> > using my Bandera, but find that I make better use
of my time yanking the
> > stuff off and throwing it in the oven, and getting
on to other tasks at
> > hand.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 3:49 PM
> > Subject: [Bandera] Digest Number 1563
> >
> >
> >
> > There are 3 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >    1.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
IT BE?
> >          From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
> >    2.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
IT BE?
> >          From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
> >    3.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
IT BE?
> >          From: "Greg Geilman" ggeilman@...
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 7:19 am (PDT)
> >    From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
> > Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT
WILL IT BE?
> >
> >
> > At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> > >I am considering purchasing a new light guage
$200+tax plus mod cost
> > >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or
purchasing a propane
> > >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big
Block.  Which is the
> > >best route and why?  If the Bandera is best then
what is the best way
> > >to add the Propane hardware?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance for all of your time and
consideration.
> >
> > Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable
resource - propane is not.
> >
> > Andrew. (UK)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
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> >
> > Message: 2
> >    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:39 am (PDT)
> >    From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
> > Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT
WILL IT BE?
> >
> >
> > If you want to go there, I would think the
environmental question
> would be
> > which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the
charcoal comes from
> > Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be
propane produces less
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Technically, you are correct. I've posted this same point here before. Up to
140, you're smoking. After 140, you're cooking. Could you put it in the oven
at this point? Yes. But, the "smoker" in us, (some might refer to as
purists) enjoy the process as much as the end result. So...  'To maintain
the fire' has some manly attributes. I could go buy a fish at the grocery...
Or...  I could go catch my own. I still end up with a fish.

It's your experience. Do with it as you will. Your goals should be to 1)
have a good experience and 2) end up with a tasty piece of meat.

JG


Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 2:31 pm (PDT)
From: "Scott" scottprins@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1563


I have been following this latest thread about whether or not to convert to
propane.  Let me add my 2 cents.

Since meat does not take any more "smoke" after it reaches 140 degrees, why
not just remove your item, wrap it in foil to retain moisture, and put it in
a 250 degree oven?  It not only will accomplish the same thing (cooking your
meat), but it is far more economical than propane or charcoal.  I enjoy
using my Bandera, but find that I make better use of my time yanking the
stuff off and throwing it in the oven, and getting on to other tasks at
hand.

Scott

I grew up where they made charcoal? Ever been to such a facility? The
workers that are 40 years old look 80...And it is basically slave
labor and many die of lung disease..They do have to make a living
some way. Now dont take me wrong I love
to cook with it. But I am also aware of the pollutants that charcoal
leave behind...

So it is kind of a six to one half a dozen to other.

So whatever you like to cook with.. Enjoy what you use.


Duke



  If you want gas why bother with a bandera?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Bark Woof
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:38 PM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT
BE?
>
> If you want to go there, I would think the environmental question
would be
> which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the charcoal comes from
> Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane produces less
pollutants
> in its use; however, if you factor in production who knows?
Charcoal
> certainly makes it taste better.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Andrew Lawton
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL IT
BE?
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage $200+tax plus mod
cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or purchasing a
propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big Block.  Which is the
best
> >route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is the best way
to add
> >the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable resource - propane is
not.
>
> Andrew. (UK)
>
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Hey, no problem. I have talked to many Q'ers in many forums over the years
and it's always been passed around that meat stops taking on smoke at 140.
However, since you asked, I have searched and cannot find scientific proof.
Here is a page from the BBQ FAQ (which I have uploaded to the Group page)
that talks about it at different points.

http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2/12.html

  JG


Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 8:30 pm (PDT)
From: "brooklynq" brooklynq@...
Subject: Re: It's a matter of taste


I'm not challenging you John, because I believe I've experienced the same
effect, that after a certain point the meat no longer accepts any smoke
flavor. But do you know of any scientific proof of this?

I've kept my Bandera outside with a cover for the last nine years or
so, and I've had no rust problems until this year. In the last few
months the base (the metal rectangle between the wheels) has really
rusted badly. I've had little to no rust in the actual grilling area,
but I'm afraid the grill will start falling apart if I don't do
something about the base.
Has anyone else had this problem? What's the best way to protect it?

Thanks-
Scolli

My Friend with the way they have cheapend  the Bandera's since the
later 80's. If I were you and wanted to keep cooking Bandera style...
If you can afford it I would t ake it to a good welding/Fabrication
shop and use your exisiting Bandera for a Template..


And have them build you one to last for a life time with all the
Monifications done to it...
It is really sad what had been done to them since the originals..Not
all welded and with seams and cheap metal and plasic tires and no
heat
defletor to provide eveen heat.and smaller cooking chamber and
replacing the cooking deck with a cheesy wooden slat rack for holding
things....

I'm anxious for mind to burn out..Cause then I can justify having my
replacement rebuilt  with heavier double wall constuction and all the
goodies the originals had....
It will cost a whole lot more.. But when you think over a lifetime
replacing the Bandera if at even possible.. It will be money well
spent.


Just cant beat a bandera.. Just the newer ones later then the 80's
I'm
not impressed with.. But it's still the best thing going out there in
my eyes..


Happy Smoking!

Duke


> I've kept my Bandera outside with a cover for the last nine years
or
> so, and I've had no rust problems until this year. In the last few
> months the base (the metal rectangle between the wheels) has really
> rusted badly. I've had little to no rust in the actual grilling
area,
> but I'm afraid the grill will start falling apart if I don't do
> something about the base.
> Has anyone else had this problem? What's the best way to protect it?
>
> Thanks-
> Scolli
>

Hi all;

I hope I am not breaking any rules on this forum, but I no longer use
my Bandera, and am wishing to sell it.  I live in middle Tennessee,
about 45 miles south of Nashville.  If you wish more informaton,
please contact me at my email address.

Thanks!
Scott

Scott,
I'll tell ya what's even easier than that... Just go
downtown to your local BBQ joint, pick up a rack of
ribs or a brisket sandwich, take it home and eat it!
Then you'll have time for all kinds of other stuff...

Randeyeman



--- Scott <scottprins@...> wrote:

> I have been following this latest thread about
> whether or not to convert to
> propane.  Let me add my 2 cents.
>
> Since meat does not take any more "smoke" after it
> reaches 140 degrees, why
> not just remove your item, wrap it in foil to retain
> moisture, and put it in
> a 250 degree oven?  It not only will accomplish the
> same thing (cooking your
> meat), but it is far more economical than propane or
> charcoal.  I enjoy
> using my Bandera, but find that I make better use of
> my time yanking the
> stuff off and throwing it in the oven, and getting
> on to other tasks at
> hand.
>
> Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <Bandera@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Bandera] Digest Number 1563
>
>
>
> There are 3 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>    1.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
> IT BE?
>          From: "Andrew Lawton"
> andrew.lawton@...
>    2.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
> IT BE?
>          From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
>    3.  Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
> IT BE?
>          From: "Greg Geilman" ggeilman@...
>
>
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>
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>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 7:19 am (PDT)
>    From: "Andrew Lawton" andrew.lawton@...
> Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
> IT BE?
>
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage
> $200+tax plus mod cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or
> purchasing a propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big
> Block.  Which is the
> >best route and why?  If the Bandera is best then
> what is the best way
> >to add the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and
> consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable
> resource - propane is not.
>
> Andrew. (UK)
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:39 am (PDT)
>    From: "Bark Woof" barkbarkwoof@...
> Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
> IT BE?
>
>
> If you want to go there, I would think the
> environmental question would be
> which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the
> charcoal comes from
> Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane
> produces less pollutants
> in its use; however, if you factor in production who
> knows?  Charcoal
> certainly makes it taste better.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Lawton
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE,
> WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage
> $200+tax plus mod cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or
> purchasing a propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big
> Block.  Which is the best
> >route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is
> the best way to add
> >the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and
> consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable
> resource - propane is not.
>
> Andrew. (UK)
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
>    Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 1:10 pm (PDT)
>    From: "Greg Geilman" ggeilman@...
> Subject: Re: TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE, WHAT WILL
> IT BE?
>
>
> If you want gas why bother with a bandera?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Bark Woof
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:38 PM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE,
> WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
> If you want to go there, I would think the
> environmental question would be
> which causes more pollution.  Also, whether the
> charcoal comes from
> Rainforest or limbs etc.  My guess would be propane
> produces less pollutants
> in its use; however, if you factor in production who
> knows?  Charcoal
> certainly makes it taste better.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Bandera@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Lawton
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bandera] TO PROPANE OR NOT TO PROPANE,
> WHAT WILL IT BE?
>
> At 20:14 28/05/2006, you wrote:
> >I am considering purchasing a new light guage
> $200+tax plus mod cost
> >Charbroil Bandera and converting it to propane or
> purchasing a propane
> >$189 total Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain Big
> Block.  Which is the best
> >route and why?  If the Bandera is best then what is
> the best way to add
> >the Propane hardware?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for all of your time and
> consideration.
>
> Think of the planet - charcoal is a renewable
> resource - propane is not.
>
>
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Been looking at the New Braunfels / Charbroil Bandera Offset Smoker .
Found it at my local Home Depot for $259.00. Cheapst I found online is
$599. But i can't seem to find it on the Char-broil site to read more
info on it. I was wonding if anyone on here has one or konws anything
about them? I would realy like to here anything u have to say about
them and if u know where i can read more about them please let me
know. I currently have a Brinkmann SnP. I'm thinking this would be a
nice step up from the SnP. Thanks for any info everyone can give.

Thanks
HillBillyBBQ

My Son is looking for a burner for his Bandera...Anyone have one for
sale?

Have you  tried academysports.com  ?  Do a search for the Bandra on
thir site.
> Been looking at the New Braunfels / Charbroil Bandera Offset Smoker .
> Found it at my local Home Depot for $259.00. Cheapst I found online
is
> $599. But i can't seem to find it on the Char-broil site to read more
> info on it. I was wonding if anyone on here has one or konws anything
> about them? I would realy like to here anything u have to say about
> them and if u know where i can read more about them please let me
> know. I currently have a Brinkmann SnP. I'm thinking this would be a
> nice step up from the SnP. Thanks for any info everyone can give.
>
> Thanks
> HillBillyBBQ
>

Got me a brisket smoking tonight.  Have not done one in about two
years...have done ribs tho, they don't take as long...

Anybody else smokin' tonight?

Hey James!
Thankks for the Heads up on the Burner... I did not realize it but Ed
the Owner at http://www.gassmoker.com is the Guy that put the Burner in
the Bandera I recently purchase... Puts out Awsome Heat and  good on
fuel too with the r ising cost of LP... And he is most helpful. He is
in the Business for the long-Hal and not out to make a quick buck and
stands behinds what he sells... I ordered the H-Model just like in my
smoker. I'll take mine out and put it in my sons bandera that Rat got
almost NEW for 35.00! Only seems fair dont you think?

Ed also sells woods for smoking! And quality stuff not like the Styro-
foam you buy in the Stores! Thanks again for the Heads Up!

Duke
> My Son is looking for a burner for his Bandera...Anyone have one for
> sale?
>

hi all
        my name is ray wells im from middle TENN i just resently bought
a used Bandera.had to do some work on the firebox sides an lid.but
anyway i've been qing for about 10 yrs.an still don't know things.hope
to learn more here

Hi guys,
   My lucky day! I just got a used Bandera for $50 from a co-worker.
(That clean living finally paid off). It's in pretty good shape. I'm
itching to do some mods and fire her up but there is a little rust
on her. Anyone have some advice on this? My plans are to sand her
down a bit on the rusty areas.

Kevin mentioned "There's a chemical that is sold in the car parts
section of Wal-Mart that will turn the rust into a primary" in a
post here earlier. I found this stuff and I plan on giving it a try,
then laying down a coat or two of hi-temp rustoleum. (Are toxic
fumes poisoning my food gonna be a concern with any of this?) Then I
plan to coat her thickly with vegetable oil (or maybe with a tub of
that hillbilly lard if it's cheaper). Whadda ya think, am I wasting
my time or is this a good plan for wise and frugal maintenance?

Also, what do you guys use as a cover for the Bandera? Do I just
throw a tarp over her and strap it down with bungees? Or do I just
leave her to the elements and plan on applying rustoleum every 6
months?
Thanks for your advice.

Never paint the inside.  High temp paint should be rated above 1200 degrees
not 900.  Sand rust and use paint on the outside and vegetable oil, Crisco
etc to season and build a fire for a couple of hours. The same method used
for a cast iron pan.  Do not use lard or other animal based fat to season.

-----Original Message-----
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entry
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 10:25 AM
To: Bandera@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bandera] New Bandera owner


Hi guys,
   My lucky day! I just got a used Bandera for $50 from a co-worker.
(That clean living finally paid off). It's in pretty good shape. I'm itching
to do some mods and fire her up but there is a little rust on her. Anyone
have some advice on this? My plans are to sand her down a bit on the rusty
areas.

Kevin mentioned "There's a chemical that is sold in the car parts section of
Wal-Mart that will turn the rust into a primary" in a post here earlier. I
found this stuff and I plan on giving it a try, then laying down a coat or
two of hi-temp rustoleum. (Are toxic fumes poisoning my food gonna be a
concern with any of this?) Then I plan to coat her thickly with vegetable
oil (or maybe with a tub of that hillbilly lard if it's cheaper). Whadda ya
think, am I wasting my time or is this a good plan for wise and frugal
maintenance?

Also, what do you guys use as a cover for the Bandera? Do I just throw a
tarp over her and strap it down with bungees? Or do I just leave her to the
elements and plan on applying rustoleum every 6 months?
Thanks for your advice.





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Single burner stove for $10.99 from Harbor Freight (http//harborfreight.com).
If necessary they also have a propane regulator for $11.99.

Dave



Steve wrote:
> My Son is looking for a burner for his Bandera...Anyone have one for
> sale?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Team Bandera Pit Crew
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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for the cover there is a Banders specific cover. you
can get online.

Rob

--- entry <entrynotfound@...> wrote:

>
> Hi guys,
>   My lucky day! I just got a used Bandera for $50
> from a co-worker.
> (That clean living finally paid off). It's in pretty
> good shape. I'm
> itching to do some mods and fire her up but there is
> a little rust
> on her. Anyone have some advice on this? My plans
> are to sand her
> down a bit on the rusty areas.
>
> Kevin mentioned "There's a chemical that is sold in
> the car parts
> section of Wal-Mart that will turn the rust into a
> primary" in a
> post here earlier. I found this stuff and I plan on
> giving it a try,
> then laying down a coat or two of hi-temp rustoleum.
> (Are toxic
> fumes poisoning my food gonna be a concern with any
> of this?) Then I
> plan to coat her thickly with vegetable oil (or
> maybe with a tub of
> that hillbilly lard if it's cheaper). Whadda ya
> think, am I wasting
> my time or is this a good plan for wise and frugal
> maintenance?
>
> Also, what do you guys use as a cover for the
> Bandera? Do I just
> throw a tarp over her and strap it down with
> bungees? Or do I just
> leave her to the elements and plan on applying
> rustoleum every 6
> months?
> Thanks for your advice.
>
>
>
>


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I dont know if you have an academy sports store near you, but they have
been stocking them here in central texas for a couple years  198.00 +
tax

Good Luck...and I do believe it is an upgrade!!

al





--- In Bandera@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Persons <alexpersons@...>
wrote:
>
> hello.
>
> brand new to the group and i'm looking for a new bandera, but can't
find them retailed anywhere.  true, i haven't done an exhaustive
search, but they don't seem as common as the "silver smoker" style nb's
of the old days.   i have a rusted out old nb silver smoker and need to
upgrade asap.  are they sold in any large home improvement stores?
ebay?
>
> also, is it in fact an upgrade to switch from the horizontal style to
a vertical style cooker?
>
> thanks.
>
> raising-tamworths-in-nw-ct...because they're so damn good!
>