----- Original Message -----

From: Jim

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:01 PM

Subject: Re: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Packet links are really too slow for screen editors, but a line based edit is feasable (anyone remember EDLIN?)

 

Uh huh and shell scripts.....

 

Showing my age......

 

Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: John Wiseman

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:21 PM

Subject: RE: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Dave,

 

The Windows version has two SYSOP-mode commands, RECONFIG and REBOOT. The Linux Version has RESTART, which actually just shuts LinBPQ down, and expects the OS to restart it (for example by using INIT).

 

The Linux version, and the next Windows version have a way to connect to a shell/cmd session over the network. This allows editing of config files. Packet links are really too slow for screen editors, but a line based edit is feasable (anyone remember EDLIN?)

 

73, John

 

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bird
Sent: 17 February 2013 00:35
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

John,

Thanks again. Was able to get right in. Intuitive and works well.

This type of access brings to mind a requirement I have been attempting to resolve. I have a need to remotely update the Telnet USER and AXIP MAP lists. The nodes are located in places where access is extremely difficult. I have been attempting to use HSMM-MESH and a Remote Access tool to edit the BPQ configuration file and then activate them. This works but if the path quality degrades then the Remote Access stalls.

I understand and use the Reconfig options from the various BPQ menus but is there a way to force a Reconfig remotely? A hidden command? other?

I will appreciate any feedback you can provide. Thanks again, I will put the web interface to use.

73, Dave.
WA7RYV

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From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Ok, Dave.

 

There isn''t much documentation about it - just a mention in the release notes.

 

To enable it add an HTTPPORT=nnnn to the Telnet Server config (or add a telnet server if you don't already have one defined)

 

Then connect to 127.0.0.1:nnnn with a web browser. There are pages to display various node tables, and a terminal.

 

73, John

 

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bird
Sent: 16 February 2013 14:10
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

John,

Thanks again for the prompt reply.

I have completely missed the Windows Web interface. Please point me in the right direction.

I sometimes have a problem with things hiding in plain sight...

I really appreciate all the work you do.

73, Dave.
WA7RYV

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From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:47 AM
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Dave,

 

The latest Windows version is 5.2.9.1. A new one should be out soon.

 

The Windows code has had a Web interface to the node and aprs features for a while now. The Web interface to the BBS and Chat will be added eventually.

 

73, John

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bird
Sent: 15 February 2013 23:47
To: BPQ32 Yahoo Group
Subject: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Gentlemen,

With all the traffic about the LinBPQ (in which I am also interested) what is the current version for Windows BPQ? 5.2.9.1? or other?

I presume the discussion about the web interface only applies to LinBPQ? Is this in the plan for Windows?

Just want to make sure I did not miss something.

73, Dave.

WA7RYV

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the BPQ32
group.

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   Uploaded by : enkitec <enkitec@...>
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You can access this file at the URL:
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Regards,

enkitec <enkitec@...>

The system that I have used in the past is to use packet to obtain a copy of the file to be edited ( if I don't already have a copy ) and then use Windows Notebook or DOS EDIT.EXE to edit the file. - Then I simply replace the original file with the new version, reboot the remote system, and it uses the new file.

 

To work with a remote BPQ node, I would have a copy of FBB BBS there with password access, that was only there for the FBBDOS functions and the ability to reboot the remote computer. - The BBS function was not utilized or available to anyone besides myself. This allowed me to do any file function that was required on the node, and maintain the remote node from my hamshack without difficulty.

 

I find that the DOS versions of BPQ node is superior to the Windows version as far as remote access and maintanence is concerned. It also works well with PC-104 form industrial mini-computers, so I can have a remote node system with no moving or rotating parts that can handle heat, dust, etc.. They are pretty well bulletproof, have a built-in WatchDog function, and require very little power, a serious consideration if solar power is to be utilized at the node site.

 

Modern DOS machines are flabbergastingly fast. - And utterly reliable.

 

73 DE Charles, N5PVL

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

Packet links are really too slow for screen editors, but a line based edit is feasable (anyone remember EDLIN?)

 

Uh huh and shell scripts.....

 

Showing my age......

 

Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: John Wiseman

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:21 PM

Subject: RE: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Dave,

 

The Windows version has two SYSOP-mode commands, RECONFIG and REBOOT. The Linux Version has RESTART, which actually just shuts LinBPQ down, and expects the OS to restart it (for example by using INIT).

 

The Linux version, and the next Windows version have a way to connect to a shell/cmd session over the network. This allows editing of config files. Packet links are really too slow for screen editors, but a line based edit is feasable (anyone remember EDLIN?)

 

73, John

 

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bird
Sent: 17 February 2013 00:35
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

John,

Thanks again. Was able to get right in. Intuitive and works well.

This type of access brings to mind a requirement I have been attempting to resolve. I have a need to remotely update the Telnet USER and AXIP MAP lists. The nodes are located in places where access is extremely difficult. I have been attempting to use HSMM-MESH and a Remote Access tool to edit the BPQ configuration file and then activate them. This works but if the path quality degrades then the Remote Access stalls.

I understand and use the Reconfig options from the various BPQ menus but is there a way to force a Reconfig remotely? A hidden command? other?

I will appreciate any feedback you can provide. Thanks again, I will put the web interface to use.

73, Dave.
WA7RYV

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From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Ok, Dave.

 

There isn''t much documentation about it - just a mention in the release notes.

 

To enable it add an HTTPPORT=nnnn to the Telnet Server config (or add a telnet server if you don't already have one defined)

 

Then connect to 127.0.0.1:nnnn with a web browser. There are pages to display various node tables, and a terminal.

 

73, John

 

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bird
Sent: 16 February 2013 14:10
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

John,

Thanks again for the prompt reply.

I have completely missed the Windows Web interface. Please point me in the right direction.

I sometimes have a problem with things hiding in plain sight...

I really appreciate all the work you do.

73, Dave.
WA7RYV

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From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:47 AM
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Dave,

 

The latest Windows version is 5.2.9.1. A new one should be out soon.

 

The Windows code has had a Web interface to the node and aprs features for a while now. The Web interface to the BBS and Chat will be added eventually.

 

73, John

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bird
Sent: 15 February 2013 23:47
To: BPQ32 Yahoo Group
Subject: [BPQ32] 02-15-13 - WINDOWS BPQ VERSION

 

Gentlemen,

With all the traffic about the LinBPQ (in which I am also interested) what is the current version for Windows BPQ? 5.2.9.1? or other?

I presume the discussion about the web interface only applies to LinBPQ? Is this in the plan for Windows?

Just want to make sure I did not miss something.

73, Dave.

WA7RYV

Hi John,

             Updated to version 6.0.0.80, running very well.

Regards ..... Peter

 

Hi John,

Updated to version 6.0.0.80, running very well.

Regards ..... Peter

I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and
others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is
WRONG..

73 Jerry

This topic started out on Packet Sysop a month or so a go, but no
decisions
Were ever made whether WP'S should be SP or B, I do not have the answer
Also discussed was do WP'S go @WW as a bulletin or sent to a specific
Partners BBS.

Just for the record, BPQ-BBS can be set ether P or B with only one entry
FBB if sent with @WW or @USA it will be a bulletin, if sent to a
specific
Call sign the WP will go out as a P, there is now way to change this, it

May be different in FBBX.

Mike N9PMO
www.n9pmo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Joel Yates
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:11 AM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought
Id ask here..?

 
The personal messages are wrong. They should be bulletins.
...73's Joel N4JOA
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: "Jerome K" <n9lya@...>
Sender: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:08:08 -0000
To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought Id
ask here..?

 
I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for
now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal
Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other
is WRONG..

73 Jerry

 

I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is WRONG..

73 Jerry

-- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

 

If it is sent as a P it is not going to get forwarded on to the next bbs.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>

Sender: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:09:00 -0600

To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>

ReplyTo: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought Id ask here..?

 

The reason some WP Updates show up as "B" and others as "P" is because some sysops set their bbs to send them as "B" and some sysops set their bbs to send them as "P"....... and some set their bbs to send them as both.

WP Updates (according to my tests) seem to work both ways.

So, why should it be "wrong" to use either way or both?

73,  K.O. n0kfq

On 2/20/2013 8:08 AM, Jerome K wrote:

 

I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is WRONG..

73 Jerry

-- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

-- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:14:36 +0100, Joel Yates <yate4899@...> wrote:

> If it is sent as a P it is not going to get forwarded on to the next bbs.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
It does not have to be forwarded on, it will be merged with the recieving
bbs WP update and that gets send on, it's slower but less overhead, if the
price of speed is worth the reduction in overhead is debatable and has
been debated for ages on sysop@ww


--
73 Andre PE1RDW

 

I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is WRONG..

73 Jerry

 

Mine seems to kill SP's on receipt !   73 de Dave gm3yew@gb7yew          -------Original Message-------   From: Joel Yates Date: 02/20/13 15:14:50 To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought Id ask here..?     If it is sent as a P it is not going to get forwarded on to the next bbs. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...> Sender: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:09:00 -0600 To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought Id ask here..?   The reason some WP Updates show up as "B" and others as "P" is because some sysops set their bbs to send them as "B" and some sysops set their bbs to send them as "P"....... and some set their bbs to send them as both. WP Updates (according to my tests) seem to work both ways. So, why should it be "wrong" to use either way or both? 73,  K.O. n0kfq On 2/20/2013 8:08 AM, Jerome K wrote:   I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now.. I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and others as Bulletins..? What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is WRONG.. 73 Jerry -- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

-- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

 

The instruction page https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31910649/InstallingLINBPQ.htm hasn't changed, but the linbpq/pilinbpq and HTMLPages.zip that are linked to from it are updated pretty frequently.

 

The current is 6.0.0.81, but it may well be changed by the time you read this!

 

John

 

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of james
Sent: 20 February 2013 12:18
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Linux BPQ32

 

I was not sure the web page had a date of 5 2 2013 lol

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2013, at 20:07, Peter - ZL2BAU <peter.zl2bau@...> wrote:

 

Hi John,

Updated to version 6.0.0.80, running very well.

Regards ..... Peter

 

Hi K.O.

 

I was under the idea that they had to get sent to the next bbs,,, Not just a specific BBS..

If its ok.. cool.. Just seemed weird I would see both types…

 

 

 

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:09 AM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought Id ask here..?

 

 

The reason some WP Updates show up as "B" and others as "P" is because some sysops set their bbs to send them as "B" and some sysops set their bbs to send them as "P"....... and some set their bbs to send them as both.

WP Updates (according to my tests) seem to work both ways.

So, why should it be "wrong" to use either way or both?

73,  K.O. n0kfq

On 2/20/2013 8:08 AM, Jerome K wrote:

 

I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is WRONG..

73 Jerry

-- 

K.O. Higgs 

n0kfq@...

-- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

 

I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other is WRONG..

73 Jerry

On 2/18/2013 3:36 PM, Charles Brabham wrote:

>
> I find that the DOS versions of BPQ node is superior to the Windows version as
far as remote access and maintanence is concerned. It also works well with
PC-104 form industrial mini-computers, so I can have a remote node system with
no moving or rotating parts that can handle heat, dust, etc.. They are pretty
well bulletproof, have a built-in WatchDog function, and require very little
power, a serious consideration if solar power is to be utilized at the node
site.
>


If possible, I would like to see more details about using industrial
mini-computers in particular packet networks (Eg. comp brand & model,
location altitude, power supply stability, frequencies & radios
connected, additional system enclosure, etc.)

Regards,
Misko

IF you have 80+ BBS partners in/outside of the US who is your first
partner?

Is it really necessary to send the WP'S out as most programs read them
from
The R-Line?

So many of the WP'S are incomplete anyways, Name, QTH, ZIP, HR, this is
just
Laziness on many Sysop's

And then there are the Sysops running WinFbb 7.01-35a with out the
Updates
Written by John G8BPQ to prevent WP Multiple Call sign corruptions,
The updates have been on the BPQ reflector and my web site for several
of years,
One 7.01-35 user replied, I don't send the WP'S out so I don't need the
update,
Very wrong, again he fails to over look the reading of the R-Line.

Not trying to get off tract but for those that may not know the bug in
7.01-35
The following is an example in the edit user added calls and IE command,

the update solves this problem.
N9PMO
N9PMOa
N9PMOB
N9PMOD

73

Mike N9PMO
www.n9pmo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jerry
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:30 AM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought
Id ask here..?

 
Hi K.O.
 
I was under the idea that they had to get sent to the next bbs,,, Not
just a specific BBS..
If its ok.. cool.. Just seemed weird I would see both types…
 
 
 
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
K.O. Higgs
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:09 AM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] WP Update Question (not BPQ Specific.. But thought
Id ask here..?
 
 
The reason some WP Updates show up as "B" and others as "P" is because
some sysops set their bbs to send them as "B" and some sysops set their
bbs to send them as "P"....... and some set their bbs to send them as
both.

WP Updates (according to my tests) seem to work both ways.

So, why should it be "wrong" to use either way or both?

73,  K.O. n0kfq
On 2/20/2013 8:08 AM, Jerome K wrote:
 
I still have issues with our present WP updates… But forget that for
now..

I would like to know if anyone knows why some show up as Personal
Messages and others as Bulletins..?

What should it be? Why? How can we fix it… I am sure one or ther other
is WRONG..

73 Jerry



--
 
K.O. Higgs
n0kfq@...
 

 

Is it really necessary to send the WP'S out as most programs read them
from
The R-Line?
 

I am looking to link to another node via TCP.  We are in the process of getting
back online with packet here in our area and want to have a couple internet
backbone links.

If you are interested, shoot me an email at ag1t@...

Thanks.

   -Gary

 

The instruction page https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31910649/InstallingLINBPQ.htm hasn't changed, but the linbpq/pilinbpq and HTMLPages.zip that are linked to from it are updated pretty frequently.

 

The current is 6.0.0.81, but it may well be changed by the time you read this!

 

John