----- Original Message -----

From: ve2hom Pascal

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:09

Subject: Re: [BPQ32] disable a port

Hello John,
Tnx for the answer, I will re-install my relay on the radio. 

73 de Pascal
ve2hom

Le 24/09/11 05:15, John Wiseman a écrit :

Pascal.

 

Transmitting on a port can be disabled by the SYSOP-mode command XMITOFF. but there isn't any way to disable receive. There isn't a timer-driven facilty to disable ports. It may be possible to create a timer driven script to issue the XMITOFF command, but it isn't something that i've every tried.

 

73,

John

 

 

 

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From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ve2hom Pascal
Sent: 24 September 2011 01:39
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BPQ32] disable a port

 

Hello all,
    I want to know if there is a way to disable a port with a cron or something like that?  I want to turn off my vhf port in certain hour of the day.  In the past i have use a timer and a relay on the power line of the radio, but i would prefer to control it by the computer if it's possible.

Tnx

-- Meilleur 73'
de Pascal
ve2hom

> Question for the BPQ32 gang on node broadcasts.  I shut off my node broadcast
with a zero for timer.  I am only iding K7MT-6 HLNMT the main link to the BBS,
Chat, and RMS.  All internet connections I have in my list are working and I am
getting traffic just fine.  So far all seems fine for the last couple days. The
once an hour ID shows K7MT-6 HLNMT as a node on the MH list from X1J4 nodes but
does no show up on the Nodes list and I like it that way.  This way I am only
iding for a total of about 30 seconds every 24 hours.  Does anyone see problem
down the road with my layout !!!!!  No matter what I do, local node owners are
complaining !!!!!!!!!

Hi Bill,

Ah for the good old days of the Montana packet backbone back in the
mid 1990's.....

I've heard rumors of this project to get nodes back on line but
haven't seen any info except for a couple small comments on the GFAARC
board.   So what's the plan there?   A single frequency simple as can
be system where nodes, users and resources all have to compete for air
time?   Any sort of backbone or alternate access schemes?   I used to
think it would be impossible to build a network worse than the single
channel node scheme and then  we came up with APRS... :)

73
Bill - WA7NWP

In an "ideal" world your node's user port(s) should only hear it's local users.
Internode traffic should flow over a backbone. Distant users should be accessing
the distant node on a different "user" frequency.

While there are variables to consider, once you start getting more than 2 (maybe
3 if they are close in) nodes on a user freq you start creating HTS (hidden
transmitter syndrome) issues and degrading the system capacity. What may work
fine under normal circumstances...can easily collapse upon itself under heavy
load of a drill/event/disaster.

Admittedly very few systems (including my own) pull this off 100% ;-) Some don't
care and figure the solution is just to toss more nodes on the freq which
usually makes things worse. Some sysops (the good ones) care and will try to
limit "node clutter" on the user freq.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
"Packet Radio never died, it just evolved."
Packet: WA4ZKO@WA4ZKO.#NKY.KY.USA.NOAM

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, ke7ugt@... wrote:
>
> Hi Bill KJ6IX is And of course Ken in Hood River is who I go to. You can
always go on 145.750 if you want Ken and I are on that one and we won't
complain!If you want bad complaints try my area . The locals don't want anybody
using the freq 144.990 except for local traffic that is why I have my BPQ32 set
up I tried using it when I was new and that was a mistake.73 Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Vodall " <wa7nwp@ gmail .com>
> To: BPQ32@ yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:16:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] K7MT BPQ32
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> > Question for the BPQ32 gang on node broadcasts.  I shut off my node
broadcast with a zero for timer.  I am only iding K7MT-6 HLNMT the main link to
the BBS, Chat, and RMS .  All internet connections I have in my list are
working and I am getting traffic just fine.  So far all seems fine for the last
couple days. The once an hour ID shows K7MT-6 HLNMT as a node on the MH list
from X1J4 nodes but does no show up on the Nodes list and I like it that way. 
This way I am only iding for a total of about 30 seconds every 24 hours.  Does
anyone see problem down the road with my layout !!!!!  No matter what I do,
local node owners are complaining !!!!!!!!!
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Ah for the good old days of the Montana packet backbone back in the
> mid 1990's.....
>
> I've heard rumors of this project to get nodes back on line but
> haven't seen any info except for a couple small comments on the GFAARC
> board. So what's the plan there? A single frequency simple as can
> be system where nodes, users and resources all have to compete for air
> time? Any sort of backbone or alternate access schemes? I used to
> think it would be impossible to build a network worse than the single
> channel node scheme and then we came up with APRS ... :)
>
> 73
> Bill - WA7NWP
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff - WA4ZKO

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:31 PM

Subject: [BPQ32] Re: K7MT BPQ32

 

In an "ideal" world your node's user port(s) should only hear it's local users. Internode traffic should flow over a backbone. Distant users should be accessing the distant node on a different "user" frequency.

While there are variables to consider, once you start getting more than 2 (maybe 3 if they are close in) nodes on a user freq you start creating HTS (hidden transmitter syndrome) issues and degrading the system capacity. What may work fine under normal circumstances...can easily collapse upon itself under heavy load of a drill/event/disaster.

Admittedly very few systems (including my own) pull this off 100% ;-) Some don't care and figure the solution is just to toss more nodes on the freq which usually makes things worse. Some sysops (the good ones) care and will try to limit "node clutter" on the user freq.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
"Packet Radio never died, it just evolved."
Packet: WA4ZKO@WA4ZKO.#NKY.KY.USA.NOAM

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, ke7ugt@... wrote:
>
> Hi Bill KJ6IX is And of course Ken in Hood River is who I go to. You can always go on 145.750 if you want Ken and I are on that one and we won't complain!If you want bad complaints try my area . The locals don't want anybody using the freq 144.990 except for local traffic that is why I have my BPQ32 set up I tried using it when I was new and that was a mistake.73 Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Vodall " <wa7nwp@ gmail .com>
> To: BPQ32@ yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:16:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] K7MT BPQ32
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> > Question for the BPQ32 gang on node broadcasts.  I shut off my node broadcast with a zero for timer.  I am only iding K7MT-6 HLNMT the main link to the BBS, Chat, and RMS .  All internet connections I have in my list are working and I am getting traffic just fine.  So far all seems fine for the last couple days. The once an hour ID shows K7MT-6 HLNMT as a node on the MH list from X1J4 nodes but does no show up on the Nodes list and I like it that way.  This way I am only iding for a total of about 30 seconds every 24 hours.  Does anyone see problem down the road with my layout !!!!!  No matter what I do, local node owners are complaining !!!!!!!!!
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Ah for the good old days of the Montana packet backbone back in the
> mid 1990's.....
>
> I've heard rumors of this project to get nodes back on line but
> haven't seen any info except for a couple small comments on the GFAARC
> board. So what's the plan there? A single frequency simple as can
> be system where nodes, users and resources all have to compete for air
> time? Any sort of backbone or alternate access schemes? I used to
> think it would be impossible to build a network worse than the single
> channel node scheme and then we came up with APRS ... :)
>
> 73
> Bill - WA7NWP
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Erhardt

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Cc: w7mri@...

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: K7MT BPQ32

 

Hi Jeff and Rick,

 

Well that was my goal to eliminate node clutter by just sending out a nodes and Id Broadcast  once and hour as I have now.  So I am only taking up about 50 seconds of air time with node broadcasts every 24 hours. I am not a X1J4 sys op so not sure how my hourly nodes/id broadcast effects those nodes.  Yep, all 7 - 8 nodes are on the same frequency 145.010 and when I entered for foray --- Whew !!!!  They want nothing to do with Winlink !!!

 

This may all be a mute point as the State DES Mars Pactor III Winlink Station will be coming on line for EMCOMM.  How it will tie into the Amateur side I am not sure. Dave McGinnis the MARS co-ordinator told us how it was to be done two years ago at a meeting.  I will then be history as I mentioned I set up my station to cover for the States DES for emergencies until theirs became operational for Winlink VHF and Pactor III. Once that is complete and operational.  I like Ricks idea and think I will put it on 144.950 which I think was the local frequency when we had 1200 baud back bone. I will check with Don Hiede W7MRI as I think he is the packet co-ordinator.

 

Bill

 

cc Don Hiede

If you deviate your broadcast timing far (longer than they use) from the
standard broadcast timing they are using on their nodes then you will fall in
and out of their nodes list. Locked routes/nodes can be an approach, but they
have their own gotchas if you're not careful.

Hint:  TheNet's obsolescence counter runs of the nodes broadcast timing. If they
are using fairly standard obs' counter parameters and they don't hear a
broadcast from you after 2 of their local broadcast cycles...your node(s) will
start to fall out. Miss enough of their cycles and your node will drop out
totally. This effect will come and go in "waves" as your broadcasts will update
them for a bit, then you will start fading away away, repeat cycle, etc.

Best practice is to agree upon a local standard and everyone adopt it. Used to
be either hourly or bi-hourly, but today 15-20 minutes seems to be the norm.
Opinions on this will vary all over the map ;-)

Slower/longer broadcast intervals free up airtime on the channel, but at a cost.
It takes longer for a "new" node to "propagate" out and longer for "dead" nodes
to fall out.

Faster/shorter timings allow "new" nodes to get propagated/updated faster and
the nodes list kept fresher, but it can add to "node chatter" levels on
sub-optimal network layouts.

As I like to say, if 4 node broadcasts an hour on a channel is dropping your
network to it's knees...then that network dearly needs a better layout. Hint,
backbone time! How will such a network ever handle heavy usage during an
event/drill? You probably need a backbone freq, even it's only another 1200 baud
channel dedicated to inter-node traffic.

Don't laugh at thee idea of a 1200 baud backbone. When there are no "users" on
freq and you know exactly what is at the other end of the link (radio, tnc, link
margin) you can get much more aggressive with the link parameters. User ports
usually need to be a somewhat ugly compromise in order to suite that one user
with the radio that is as slow as cold molasses.

As my packet mentor used to preach, the fewer nodes you see on your user port's
MH list...often the better for your users.

Yeah, easier said than done ;-)


73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
"Packet Radio never died, it just evolved."
Packet: WA4ZKO@WA4ZKO.#NKY.KY.USA.NOAM

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Erhardt" <k7mt@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff and Rick,
>
> Well that was my goal to eliminate node clutter by just sending out a nodes
and Id Broadcast  once and hour as I have now.  So I am only taking up about 50
seconds of air time with node broadcasts every 24 hours. I am not a X1J4 sys op
so not sure how my hourly nodes/id broadcast effects those nodes.  Yep, all 7 -
8 nodes are on the same frequency 145.010 and when I entered for foray --- Whew
!!!!  They want nothing to do with Winlink !!!
>
> This may all be a mute point as the State DES Mars Pactor III Winlink Station
will be coming on line for EMCOMM.  How it will tie into the Amateur side I am
not sure. Dave McGinnis the MARS co-ordinator told us how it was to be done two
years ago at a meeting.  I will then be history as I mentioned I set up my
station to cover for the States DES for emergencies until theirs became
operational for Winlink VHF and Pactor III. Once that is complete and
operational.  I like Ricks idea and think I will put it on 144.950 which I think
was the local frequency when we had 1200 baud back bone. I will check with Don
Hiede W7MRI as I think he is the packet co-ordinator.
>
> Bill
>
> cc Don Hiede
>

Hello group and thanks for reading my plea.

I am trying to upgrade from a Win3.11/BPQ408A/Winpack(16) and Uiview(16) towards
XP/BPQ32/Winpack(16) and hopefully UIview16, (although appreciate that I can
change to UIview32).

However, as John mentioned in a message posting back in 2010:-
The BPQ option in Winpack is for use with the DOS version of BPQ, and doesn't
work with BPQ32. BPQ32 provides a TNC2 emulator (BPQTNC2) and a DED Host Mode
Emulator (BPQHostModes). Either can be used to interface WinPack to BPQ32.

Therefore, I wonder what BPQ32 programs are required to be 'started' or
installed (before?) starting Winpack16, in order to be used in a TNC2 mode
(TF2.7b in the Winpack/comms setup)? Does a TNC actually have to be connected to
a serial port or does BPQ32 act as a TNC (in this case)??.

Does the latest version of BPQ32 [5.0.0.1] have the same 'limitation' with the
BPQ mode in Winpack not working, as John outlined above?

Any other solutions before I try to go back to running BPQ16 with WinXP (that
could be equally disastrous!!?)

Thanks,
Mike

Why not use agw option in winpack and ui-view ?

 

Danny PD0SNK

Hi all:

Tomorrow, Oct 1 is Simulated Emergency Test (SET), for which I'm in
the process of setting up the equipment I plan on using that day.

We make extensive use of winlink in our region (Eastern Washington
state), and in the past I've always found the existing winlink
software programs insufficient as they're always missing a piece here
or there.  After reading more about bpq and bpqmail, it looks like
that might actually be the "silver bullet" to the winlink problem.  as
such, I'm trying to set that up now (Yea, I know...last minute).

My goal is to get:

BPQ with 1 packet port (TNC)
1 winmor port
BPQmail running for minimum 1 user
That one user will be accessed over local network with POP/SMTP on
other laptops.
BPQmail will allow for delivery of messages to WL2K infrastructure, or
when a specific route is set up, direct Peer to Peer.

So, to this end, I'm working on step one: getting packet working.
I've got a basic BPQmail node running, and I'm able to connect to it
and connect to other nodes through it, make connections from the
BPQterminal, etc.  Its announcing nodes as I expect, and all that
appears to be working correctly.

So, now I'm trying to get bpqmail minimally functional. I've launched
it, and it alerts me that the config is incomplete, so I click OK,
enter all the config data, and try and continue.  It then alerts me
again that config is incomplete, and opens the config when I click OK.
  the BBS Call is highlighted (WI7EOC).  I've got BBS Call set to
WI7EOC, SYSOP call to WI7EOC, H Route set to #EWA.WA.US.NOAM, Base
Directory left to default (which is accurate), BBS Appl  Number 1, BBS
Streams 3, and port numbers for pop3 and smtp port with "enable remote
access" checked.  FBB UI unchecked, refuse bulls unchecked, and nntp
port 0.

I also noticed that anytime I press "tab" in the config window boxes,
it takes me back to BBS Call and highlights everything in it.

So, I don't know what its complaining about...How do I get it to
accept my config?

--Jim