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#3347

From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>
Date: Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: Badword Filter

I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73,� K.O. N0KFQ

�

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

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It looks like there�may be a�problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

�

73,

John

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#3348

From: "Jerry - N9LYA" <n9lya@...>
Date: Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:01 pm
Subject: RE: Badword Filter

n9lya

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Lets say I wanted to send an email to Dick Pobox Central Division Director.… In my list from Msys…

Dick

And Po are listed as bad words…

Call me stupid but what is bad about po???

If its short for pissed off I have no problem with that…

Lol

I would hate to see a large number of held messages just to be holding them… They do take more time to go thru when you have to read each one and find a large number are there just becase they are part of a larger word.. The result would be mass usage of the kh command … I am afraid.. Lots of lost messages for no reason.

Like assistant, po box, etc…

73 Jerry

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:30 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter

I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

It looks like there may be a problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

73,

John

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#3349

From: "Jerry - N9LYA" <n9lya@...>
Date: Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:14 pm
Subject: FW: [IN_DHS_ARDC] Reminder - Statewide RACES Test July 17, 2010 [1 Attachment]

n9lya

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Hi guys a reminder of the upcoming Indiana Statewide Test… Yes mainly to test Indiana Stations, but Please read the section in the attachment about packet participation where and when, and send your messages from your local BBS to w9sem@k9ctb.#cin.in.usa.noam Subject : july 17^th test msg tell us who you are and where you are and your pmail address.. and anything else you wish to include.

As far as packet here we are looking for any messages.. It will help us see what we have here in Indiana and outside as well as how long it takes from time sent to time received.. We realize not all will be here on the 17^th but will look at over all to see how we are connected.. J

73 Jerry N9LYA

From: IN_DHS_ARDC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:IN_DHS_ARDC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of West, Don
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:48 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [IN_DHS_ARDC] Reminder - Statewide RACES Test July 17, 2010 [1 Attachment]

Just a quick reminder of the Statewide RACES Test July 17^th.

From: West, Don
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:16 PM
Subject: Statewide RACES Test July 17, 2010

Indiana EMA Directors and RACES Team Members,

Please find attached the details of the Statewide RACES Test scheduled for July 17. As promised, I am getting the information to you much earlier that I did for the January test.

I apologize for the length of the document, but I have included considerably more detail in this announcement than before in order to encourage increased participation in modes other than HF SSB voice. I have also made some changes to the test process in order to more accurately measure our capabilities under the kinds of conditions we might reasonably expect after a major disaster, such as an earthquake.

Of particular interest to IDHS is packet radio communications due to its ability to provide communication that is:

· Not dependant upon the Internet

· Error checking

· Permits unattended operation

· Text based

· Utilizes “store and forward” technology

· Accessible by local Hams

Please encourage your teams to develop this capability.

In addition, while access to WebEOC is strictly a local decision, EMA Directors should know that IDHS Response welcomes participation on WebEOC by RACES Volunteers. Of particular interest along these lines, would be reports of sever weather gleaned from local severe weather nets. All six National Weather Service partners serving Indiana now have access to WebEOC. While the Indy NWS Office has a robust system of reporting by Hams trained in weather spotting directly to the NWS, to my knowledge the remaining NWS Offices do not. In the next few weeks, I will be sending more details concerning the recommended process.

I want to sincerely thank the many EMA Directors who have gone beyond the call of duty to recruit RACES Volunteers and work with the Ham community.

Best regards,

Don West

Communications Director

Emergency Response Division

Indiana Dept of Homeland Security

317-232-3849

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July+2010+Statewide+RACES+Test.pdf

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#3350

From: "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:05 am
Subject: RE: Badword Filter

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K.O.

It does not work like that. _fish_ would only match _fish_.

Once fixed, a line from the file (it can be a phrase as well as a single word) will only match if it is preceeded and followed by a non-alphabetic character.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: 01 July 2010 22:30
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

It looks like there may be a problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

73,

John

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#3351

From: "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:13 am
Subject: RE: Badword Filter

gm8bpq

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This is a problem with any word-based filter. Some words are only offensive in a certain context. Dick is a good example, but there are many others.

I agree that matching within a word (as the code does with the current bug) is unworkable,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA
Sent: 01 July 2010 23:01
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
Lets say I wanted to send an email to Dick Pobox Central Division Director.… In my list from Msys…

Dick

And Po are listed as bad words…

Call me stupid but what is bad about po???

If its short for pissed off I have no problem with that…

Lol

I would hate to see a large number of held messages just to be holding them… They do take more time to go thru when you have to read each one and find a large number are there just becase they are part of a larger word.. The result would be mass usage of the kh command … I am afraid.. Lots of lost messages for no reason.

Like assistant, po box, etc…

73 Jerry

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:30 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

It looks like there may be a problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

73,

John

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#3352

From: "Jeff - WA4ZKO" <wa4zko@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 11:54 am
Subject: Filtering tools in BPQBBS

wa4zko

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I suggest a layered approach.

A keyword filter to catch on words that should never be allowed, but should not
or rarely create false hits.

Then we need the ability to filter (reject/hold) by callsign.

Thankfully problems have been pretty rare so far. Outside of the abuses of @WW
at times, this event is the first problem I recall lately. That said, a sysop
needs some tools in BPQBBS to better deal with these problems when they do
inevitably crop up.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

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#3353

From: Tony King <vk3api@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: Messages From I0OJJ

vk3api

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Same Here (on FBB)
Is any one checking the source BBS to see if the problem is known
VK3API

--- On Thu, 1/7/10, Peter - ZL2BAU <zl2bau@...> wrote:

From: Peter - ZL2BAU <zl2bau@...>
Subject: [BPQ32] Messages From I0OJJ
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 1 July, 2010, 11:12 AM

Hi All,

I would suggest that any one running a BBS, to check recent
bulletins sent by I0OJJ, my FBB system caught 103 bulletins with
inappropriate language etc in them, suffice to say, I killed them all.

Now, BPQBBS let them all thru ................. NOT GOOD.

Please check your BBS`s.

Regards ...... Peter

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#3354

From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Badword Filter

khiggs74

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On 7/2/2010 3:05 AM, John Wiseman wrote:

K.O.

It does not work like that. _fish_ would only match _fish_.

Yes, I agree... but you can fix that (instead of the other "problem").

Once fixed, a line from the file (it can be a phrase as well as a single word) will only match if it is preceeded and followed by a non-alphabetic character.

That's what I want... but I also want to keep the ability to trap "motherfisher" with just fish .

John
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: 01 July 2010 22:30
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

It looks like there may be a problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

73,

John

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#3355

From: "Jeff - WA4ZKO" <wa4zko@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: Messages From I0OJJ

wa4zko

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Looks like the problem and BBS sysop are one in the same:

--------------------
R:100702/1327Z @:N4ZKF.#NFL.FL.USA.NOAM #:9754 [9756] FBB7.01.35 alpha
R:100702/1240Z @:N4JOA.#WPBFL.FL.USA.NOAM #:10975 $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1236Z @:N9ZZK.#CIL.IL.USA.NOAM #:41989 [DIAMOND, IL.] FBB7.00e
R:100702/1139z @:ON0AR.#AN.BEL.EU $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239z @:OE5XBR.#OE5.AUT.EU $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239z @:OE2XEL.#OE2.AUT.EU $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239z @:OK0NHD.#BOH.CZE.EU $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239z @:DB0ERF.#THR.DEU.EU [Erfurt DL3AMi] DP6.00 $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239z @:OK0NAG.#BOH.CZE.EU $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239z @:IK6ZDE.IMAR.ITA.EU $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1239Z @:I4UKI.#MO.IEMR.ITA.EU #:65525 [Spilamberto] $:7292I0OJJ
R:100702/1232z @:I0OJJ.ILAZ.ITA.EU #:6236 $:7292i0ojj
-------------------

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Tony King <vk3api@...> wrote:
>
> Same Here  (on FBB)
> Is any one checking the source BBS to see if the problem is known
>
                                        \
                  VK3API
>
> --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Peter - ZL2BAU <zl2bau@...> wrote:
>
> From: Peter - ZL2BAU <zl2bau@...>
> Subject: [BPQ32] Messages From I0OJJ
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, 1 July, 2010, 11:12 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I would suggest that any one running a BBS, to check recent
>
> bulletins sent by I0OJJ, my FBB system caught 103 bulletins with
>
> inappropriate language etc in them, suffice to say, I killed them all.
>
>
>
> Now, BPQBBS let them all thru ................. NOT GOOD.
>
>
>
> Please check your BBS`s.
>
>
>
> Regards ...... Peter
>

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#3356

From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Filtering tools in BPQBBS

khiggs74

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Yes, we need the ability to filter by callsign in the FROM field... also by category in the TO field.

73, K.O.

On 7/2/2010 6:54 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO wrote:

I suggest a layered approach.

A keyword filter to catch on words that should never be allowed, but should not or rarely create false hits.

Then we need the ability to filter (reject/hold) by callsign.

Thankfully problems have been pretty rare so far. Outside of the abuses of @WW at times, this event is the first problem I recall lately. That said, a sysop needs some tools in BPQBBS to better deal with these problems when they do inevitably crop up.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

-- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@...

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#3357

From: Joel Yates <yate4899@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Filtering tools in BPQBBS

yate4899

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Reference I0OJJ, why not add him as a user tell BPQ to hold his messages and to exclude.
...73's...Joel N4JOA @ N4JOA

Joel Yates
yate4899@...

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:

I suggest a layered approach.

A keyword filter to catch on words that should never be allowed, but should not or rarely create false hits.

Then we need the ability to filter (reject/hold) by callsign.

Thankfully problems have been pretty rare so far. Outside of the abuses of @WW at times, this event is the first problem I recall lately. That said, a sysop needs some tools in BPQBBS to better deal with these problems when they do inevitably crop up.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

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#3358

From: "Jeff - WA4ZKO" <wa4zko@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: Filtering tools in BPQBBS

wa4zko

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Think that only works if he's directly connecting in to forward into BPQBBS.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Joel Yates <yate4899@...> wrote:
>
> Reference I0OJJ, why not add him as a user tell BPQ to hold his messages and
> to exclude.
> ...73's...Joel N4JOA @ N4JOA
>
> Joel Yates
> yate4899@...
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
> > I suggest a layered approach.
> >
> > A keyword filter to catch on words that should never be allowed, but should
> > not or rarely create false hits.
> >
> > Then we need the ability to filter (reject/hold) by callsign.
> >
> > Thankfully problems have been pretty rare so far. Outside of the abuses of
> > @WW at times, this event is the first problem I recall lately. That said, a
> > sysop needs some tools in BPQBBS to better deal with these problems when
> > they do inevitably crop up.
> >
> > 73
> > Jeff
> > WA4ZKO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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#3359

From: Ron Stordahl <ron_n5in@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 3:47 pm
Subject: BPQ32_4.10n_20100702 is available for download

n5in_ron

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The latest release, BPQ32_4.10n_20100702 is available for download at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BPQ32/

The changelog is here: http://www.cantab.net/users/john.wiseman/Documents/BPQ32%20Installation.htm#Changelog

Thanks to John Wiseman G8BPQ/GM8BPQ for his tireless work enhancing BPQ32!

73 de Ron Stordahl, N5IN

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#3360

From: WS7I <ws7ik7tj@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

ws7i

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No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS, CHT. This one is just to one station.� I have the AXIP set to quality 195.

�

This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line at the molment.

�

73 Jay

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:

�

Any changes to your port qualities?

What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port they are coming in on?

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, WS7I <ws7ik7tj@...> wrote:
>
> I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes list.
> Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Jay
>

--
Jay WS7I

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#3361

From: "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:01 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

n9pmo

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No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS, CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.

This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line at the molment.

73 Jay

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:

Any changes to your port qualities?

What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port they are coming in on?

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, WS7I <ws7ik7tj@...> wrote:
>
> I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes list.
> Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Jay
>

--
Jay WS7I

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#3362

From: "Jeff - WA4ZKO" <wa4zko@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

wa4zko

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There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have to dig
out my notes on it.

Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the "math"
and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't changed that).

It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor are
handled differently.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
> set:
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> In the AXIP Port:
>
> QUALITY=192
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.
>
>
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>
> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>
> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WS7I
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
> CHT. This one is just to one station.  I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>
>
>
> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line at
> the molment.
>
>
>
> 73 Jay
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Any changes to your port qualities?
>
> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
> they are coming in on?
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
>
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I
> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
> >
> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes list.
> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Jay
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jay WS7I
>

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#3363

From: Kenneth Jacobs <kd6pgi@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

kd6pgi

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Here is a great article on calculating the node quality from node to
node....

http://ohiopacket.org/index.php/Calculating_Net/Rom_route_quality


Ken KD6PGI
Hood River County ARES
AEC - Digital

On 7/2/2010 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO wrote:
>
>
> There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have
> to dig out my notes on it.
>
> Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the
> "math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't
> changed that).
>
> It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor
> are handled differently.
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike
> Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Jay
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
>  > set:
>  >
>  > MINQUAL=168
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > In the AXIP Port:
>  >
>  > QUALITY=192
>  >
>  > MINQUAL=168
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Mike Melnik-N9PMO
>  > Web WWW.N9PMO.com
>  > NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>  >
>  > Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of WS7I
>  > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
>  > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
>  > CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is
> off-line at
>  > the molment.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > 73 Jay
>  >
>  > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Any changes to your port qualities?
>  >
>  > What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
>  > they are coming in on?
>  >
>  > 73
>  > Jeff
>  > WA4ZKO
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I
>  > <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes
> list.
>  > > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
>  > >
>  > > Any ideas?
>  > >
>  > > Jay
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Jay WS7I
>  >
>
>

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#3364

From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:02 pm
Subject: Badwords.sys

khiggs74

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Well, I must be missing something... the new version of BadWords is not as good as the original.
It doesn't seem to trap anything except a single word now.

Perhaps I need some instruction on how it is supposed to be used..

73, K.O. N0KFQ

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#3365

From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Badword Filter

khiggs74

Send Email

I see it like this:
Dick should not be in your "BadWords" unless you want to do a LOT of work. It is like "gay". In one sense it is an okay word, but in another sense it is very bad... so, you have the choice of letting them all thru, or of checking them all. I would let them thru.

Po should be entered in your BadWords as _Po_ instead of Po. Then only Po would be trapped.

However, John's new version does not seem to do as well as the "broken" version. Too bad....

73, K.O.

On 7/2/2010 3:13 AM, John Wiseman wrote:

This is a problem with any word-based filter. Some words are only offensive in a certain context. Dick is a good example, but there are many others.

I agree that matching within a word (as the code does with the current bug) is unworkable,

John
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA
Sent: 01 July 2010 23:01
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
Lets say I wanted to send an email to Dick Pobox Central Division Director.… In my list from Msys…

Dick

And Po are listed as bad words…

Call me stupid but what is bad about po???

If its short for pissed off I have no problem with that…

Lol

I would hate to see a large number of held messages just to be holding them… They do take more time to go thru when you have to read each one and find a large number are there just becase they are part of a larger word.. The result would be mass usage of the kh command … I am afraid.. Lots of lost messages for no reason.

Like assistant, po box, etc…

73 Jerry

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:30 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

It looks like there may be a problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

73,

John

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#3366

From: "kd6pgi@..." <kd6pgi@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:48 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Badword Filter

kd6pgi

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I am puzzled as to what doesn't work in John's new
version. In my testing it is catching exact word
matches perfectly. Seems that if you need it catch
other words or phrases, the simple solution is to add
them to the list, as matching a word within a word
would create extra work on the part of the sysop. And
it is a simple matter to add a callsign to list if
you want to filter out everything from one callsign.


Ken Jacobs KD6PGI
Hood River County ARES
Assistant EC - Digital



------- Original Message -------
From    : K.O. Higgs[mailto:n0kfq@...]
Sent    : 7/2/2010 10:11:23 AM
To      : BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Cc      :
Subject : RE: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
















     I see it like this:

       Dick should not be in your "BadWords" unless
you want to do a LOT
       of work. It is like "gay". In one sense it is
an okay word, but in
       another sense it is very bad... so, you have
the choice of letting
       them all thru, or of checking them all. I would
let them thru.



       Po should be entered in your BadWords as _Po_
instead of Po. Then
       only Po would be trapped.



       However, John's new version does not seem to do
as well as the
       "broken" version. Too bad....



       73,  K.O.



     On 7/2/2010 3:13 AM, John Wiseman wrote:






             This is a problem with any
                   word-based filter. Some words are
only offensive in a
                   certain context. Dick is a good
example, but there are
                   many others.

             I agree that matching within a
                   word (as the code does with the
current bug) is
                   unworkable,

             John


               -----Original
                   Message-----

                   From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]
                   On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA

                   Sent: 01 July 2010 23:01

                   To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

                   Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Badword Filter








                   Lets say I wanted to
                         send an email to Dick Pobox
Central Division
                         Director.… In my list from Msys…

                   Dick

                   And Po are listed as bad
                         words…

                   Call me stupid but what
                         is bad about po???

                   If its short for pissed
                         off I have no problem with that…

                   Lol

                   I would hate to see a
                         large number of held messages
just to be holding
                         them…   They do take more
time to go thru when
                         you have to read each one and
find a large
                         number are there just becase
they are part of a
                         larger word.. The result
would be mass usage of
                         the kh command … I am
afraid.. Lots of lost
                         messages for no reason.

                   Like assistant, po box,
                         etc…




                   73 Jerry





                     From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O.
                           Higgs

                           Sent:
                           Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:30 PM

                           To:
                           BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

                           Subject:
                           Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter






                         I'm not at all sure
                               there is a problem with
that. The way it
                               is now, you can trap
all uses of the word.



                               Here is an example:



                               fish

                               fished

                               fisher

                               fishing

                               gofish

                               gonefishing



                               If you want to trap
only ONE use of the
                               word, then use _fish_



                               73,  K.O. N0KFQ







                           On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John
Wiseman wrote:




                               It looks
                                     like there may be
a problem with the
                                     code that is
meant to stop a match
                                     if the "bad word"
is part of a
                                     longer word. I'll
look into it
                                     further in the
morning.





                               73,


                               John







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#3367

From: "K.O. Higgs" <n0kfq@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Badword Filter

khiggs74

Send Email

Here is an example:

fish

fished

fisher

fishing

gofish

gonefishing

If "fish" were a 4-letter bad word, then to trap:
fisherman
fishing
fishup
motherfisher
fishyou
...and a hundred other ways some people use the bad word "fish"
you would have to think of, and enter each variation of all possible
weirdo combinations they could come up with.

To trap a word-within-a-word, you would just have to enter ONE bad word.. fish.

73,� K.O.

On 7/2/2010 12:48 PM, kd6pgi@... wrote:

�

I am puzzled as to what doesn't work in John's new
version. In my testing it is catching exact word
matches perfectly. Seems that if you need it catch
other words or phrases, the simple solution is to add
them to the list, as matching a word within a word
would create extra work on the part of the sysop. And
it is a simple matter to add a callsign to list if
you want to filter out everything from one callsign.

Ken Jacobs KD6PGI
Hood River County ARES
Assistant EC - Digital

------- Original Message -------
>From : K.O. Higgs[mailto:n0kfq@...]
Sent : 7/2/2010 10:11:23 AM
To : BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter

I see it like this:

Dick should not be in your "BadWords" unless
you want to do a LOT
of work. It is like "gay". In one sense it is
an okay word, but in
another sense it is very bad... so, you have
the choice of letting
them all thru, or of checking them all. I would
let them thru.

Po should be entered in your BadWords as _Po_
instead of Po. Then
only Po would be trapped.

However, John's new version does not seem to do
as well as the
"broken" version. Too bad....

73, K.O.

On 7/2/2010 3:13 AM, John Wiseman wrote:

This is a problem with any
word-based filter. Some words are
only offensive in a
certain context. Dick is a good
example, but there are
many others.

I agree that matching within a
word (as the code does with the
current bug) is
unworkable,

John

-----Original
Message-----

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA

Sent: 01 July 2010 23:01

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Badword Filter

Lets say I wanted to
send an email to Dick Pobox
Central Division
Director.� In my list from Msys�

Dick

And Po are listed as bad
words�

Call me stupid but what
is bad about po???

If its short for pissed
off I have no problem with that�

Lol

I would hate to see a
large number of held messages
just to be holding
them� They do take more
time to go thru when
you have to read each one and
find a large
number are there just becase
they are part of a
larger word.. The result
would be mass usage of
the kh command � I am
afraid.. Lots of lost
messages for no reason.

Like assistant, po box,
etc�

73 Jerry

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O.
Higgs

Sent:
Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:30 PM

To:
BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Subject:
Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter

I'm not at all sure
there is a problem with
that. The way it
is now, you can trap
all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish

fished

fisher

fishing

gofish

gonefishing

If you want to trap
only ONE use of the
word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John
Wiseman wrote:

It looks
like there may be
a problem with the
code that is
meant to stop a match
if the "bad word"
is part of a
longer word. I'll
look into it
further in the
morning.

73,

John

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#3368

From: WS7I <ws7ik7tj@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

ws7i

Send Email

Actually my Min value is 90.� I have tried lock routes.� I am receiving his node broadcasts but it looks like he isn't getting mine.� Just upgraded to the latest version and no change.

�

All kind of a puzzle it was working fine until I tried to install winmor back a week or so ago. Now its just not dealing with him.� My other guy will be back after the holiday so I will see if he's working with me.

�

Jay

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:

�

There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have to dig out my notes on it.

Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the "math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't changed that).

It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor are handled differently.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
> set:
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> In the AXIP Port:
>
> QUALITY=192
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.

>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>

> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WS7I
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
> CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>
>
>
> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line at
> the molment.
>
>
>
> 73 Jay
>

> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Any changes to your port qualities?
>
> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
> they are coming in on?
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
>
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I

> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
> >
> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes list.
> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Jay
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jay WS7I
>

--
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#3369

From: WS7I <ws7ik7tj@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

ws7i

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Thanks Ken for the link. This is a direct AXIP link that is always up and no hops so no worries there.� Was working and quit.� Messed up something no doubt somewhere.

�

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Kenneth Jacobs <kd6pgi@...> wrote:

Here is a great article on calculating the node quality from node to
node....

http://ohiopacket.org/index.php/Calculating_Net/Rom_route_quality

Ken KD6PGI
Hood River County ARES
AEC - Digital

On 7/2/2010 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO wrote:
>
>
> There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have
> to dig out my notes on it.
>
> Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the
> "math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't
> changed that).
>
> It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor
> are handled differently.
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike

> Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
> �>
> �> Jay
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
> �> set:
> �>
> �> MINQUAL=168
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> In the AXIP Port:
> �>
> �> QUALITY=192
> �>
> �> MINQUAL=168
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> �> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> �> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
> �>
> �> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
> �>
> �> -----Original Message-----

> �> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of WS7I
> �> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM

> �> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> �> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
> �> CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is
> off-line at
> �> the molment.
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> 73 Jay
> �>
> �> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> Any changes to your port qualities?
> �>
> �> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
> �> they are coming in on?
> �>
> �> 73
> �> Jeff
> �> WA4ZKO
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I
> �> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
> �> >
> �> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes
> list.
> �> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
> �> >
> �> > Any ideas?
> �> >
> �> > Jay
> �> >
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �>
> �> --
> �> Jay WS7I
> �>
>
>

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#3370

From: "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:28 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

n9pmo

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Jay

With the MINQUAL=90 setting, you may have flooded your Nodes table because
Of the low value, I would set them back to 168 then compile the bpqcfg.txt
Clear the nodes, And rerun BPQ32

BPQ32 Console, Actions, Clear Nodes, RE-Read bpqcfg.Bin and Reconfigure
Node.

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-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WS7I
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:13 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

Actually my Min value is 90.� I have tried lock routes.� I am receiving his
node broadcasts but it looks like he isn't getting mine.� Just upgraded to
the latest version and no change.
�
All kind of a puzzle it was working fine until I tried to install winmor
back a week or so ago. Now its just not dealing with him.� My other guy will
be back after the holiday so I will see if he's working with me.
�
Jay
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
�
There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have to
dig out my notes on it.

Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the
"math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't changed
that).

It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor are
handled differently.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
> set:
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> In the AXIP Port:
>
> QUALITY=192
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.

>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>
> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
WS7I
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
> CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>
>
>
> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line at
> the molment.
>
>
>
> 73 Jay
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Any changes to your port qualities?
>
> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
> they are coming in on?
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
>
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I

> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
> >
> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes list.
> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Jay
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jay WS7I
>

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#3371

From: "Jim WU3V" <james@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

wu3v

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Jay did you trash the bpqnodes.dat file?

Jim nh0e

----- Original Message -----

From: WS7I

To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 19:12

Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

Actually my Min value is 90. I have tried lock routes. I am receiving his node broadcasts but it looks like he isn't getting mine. Just upgraded to the latest version and no change.

All kind of a puzzle it was working fine until I tried to install winmor back a week or so ago. Now its just not dealing with him. My other guy will be back after the holiday so I will see if he's working with me.

Jay

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:

There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have to dig out my notes on it.

Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the "math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't changed that).

It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor are handled differently.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO
--- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
> set:
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> In the AXIP Port:
>
> QUALITY=192
>
> MINQUAL=168
>
>
>
> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.

>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>

> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WS7I
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
> CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>
>
>
> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line at
> the molment.
>
>
>
> 73 Jay
>

> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Any changes to your port qualities?
>
> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
> they are coming in on?
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
>
>
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I

> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
> >
> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes list.
> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Jay
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jay WS7I
>

--
Jay WS7I

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#3372

From: "Jim WU3V" <james@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

wu3v

Send Email

Guys this is a mathematical equation, you can choose any portqual and any
minqual but the entire network has to follow suit.
For directly heard nodes and those that are known for good connectivity lock
those routes to a higher value by at least one octive.
If they do go down alternate routes can take over until their return.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...>
To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 19:28
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list


> Jay
>
> With the MINQUAL=90 setting, you may have flooded your Nodes table because
> Of the low value, I would set them back to 168 then compile the bpqcfg.txt
> Clear the nodes, And rerun BPQ32
>
> BPQ32 Console, Actions, Clear Nodes, RE-Read bpqcfg.Bin and Reconfigure
> Node.
>
> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> WS7I
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:13 PM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>
>
>
>
> Actually my Min value is 90. I have tried lock routes. I am receiving his
> node broadcasts but it looks like he isn't getting mine. Just upgraded to
> the latest version and no change.
>
> All kind of a puzzle it was working fine until I tried to install winmor
> back a week or so ago. Now its just not dealing with him. My other guy
> will
> be back after the holiday so I will see if he's working with me.
>
> Jay
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
> There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have to
> dig out my notes on it.
>
> Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the
> "math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't changed
> that).
>
> It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor are
> handled differently.
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
>> set:
>>
>> MINQUAL=168
>>
>>
>>
>> In the AXIP Port:
>>
>> QUALITY=192
>>
>> MINQUAL=168
>>
>>
>>
>> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
>> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
>> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>>
>> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> WS7I
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
>> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
>> CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line
>> at
>> the molment.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Jay
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Any changes to your port qualities?
>>
>> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
>> they are coming in on?
>>
>> 73
>> Jeff
>> WA4ZKO
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I
>
>> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
>> >
>> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes
>> > list.
>> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jay WS7I
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jay WS7I
>
>
>
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#3373

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 11:19 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to BPQ32

BPQ32@yahoogroups.com

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#3374

From: "Jerry - N9LYA" <n9lya@...>
Date: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:22 am
Subject: RE: Badword Filter

n9lya

Send Email

Hi Ko… Thanks for helping me understand I am new to this rejecting badwords thing.. J Jerry

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:11 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter

This is a problem with any word-based filter. Some words are only offensive in a certain context. Dick is a good example, but there are many others.

I agree that matching within a word (as the code does with the current bug) is unworkable,

John
-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA
Sent: 01 July 2010 23:01
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
Lets say I wanted to send an email to Dick Pobox Central Division Director.… In my list from Msys…

Dick

And Po are listed as bad words…

Call me stupid but what is bad about po???

If its short for pissed off I have no problem with that…

Lol

I would hate to see a large number of held messages just to be holding them… They do take more time to go thru when you have to read each one and find a large number are there just becase they are part of a larger word.. The result would be mass usage of the kh command … I am afraid.. Lots of lost messages for no reason.

Like assistant, po box, etc…

73 Jerry

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K.O. Higgs
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:30 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Badword Filter
I'm not at all sure there is a problem with that. The way it is now, you can trap all uses of the word.

Here is an example:

fish
fished
fisher
fishing
gofish
gonefishing

If you want to trap only ONE use of the word, then use _fish_

73, K.O. N0KFQ

On 7/1/2010 4:22 PM, John Wiseman wrote:

It looks like there may be a problem with the code that is meant to stop a match if the "bad word" is part of a longer word. I'll look into it further in the morning.

73,

John

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#3375

From: Peter - ZL2BAU <zl2bau@...>
Date: Sat Jul 3, 2010 1:29 am
Subject: Re: Badwords.sys

zl2bau

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On 03/07/10 05:02, K.O. Higgs wrote:

Well, I must be missing something... the new version of BadWords is not as good as the original.
It doesn't seem to trap anything except a single word now.

Perhaps I need some instruction on how it is supposed to be used..

73, K.O. N0KFQ

Hi K.O,

I must be missing something also as the only thing trapped here by the new routine was 7+ mail.

Regards ..... Peter

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#3376

From: Ron Stordahl <ron_n5in@...>
Date: Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:47 am
Subject: Re: Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

n5in_ron

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In the example configurations I have chosen:

QUALITY=192
MINQUAL=168

These are admittedly arbitrary. With these values the result is that nodes that I hear directly, and their local services (for which APPLnQUAL=255) will show in my nodes list. For the N5IN-14 node this results in what I feel is a large enough nodes list.

If these choices do not result in as many entries in your 'N' list as you wish, then the approach I would take would be to set MINQUAL=144 or perhaps even slightly lower. You can determine this experimentally.

Because many nodes use quite different values, especially for QUALITY, and for locked routes, the results can be unexpected. You can compensate for such other nodes choices for these parms by setting locked routes for such neighbor nodes, for which you can enhance or degrade their ranking in your 'N' list.

I have only one locked route, and that to another node on my LAN, N5IN-13, which I lock at 255. I have no direct users on that node, all such users come thru N5IN-14.

I suggest using QUALITY=192 and MINQUAL=168 to start and adjust from there to get the result you want.

Ron, N5IN

From: Jim WU3V <james@...>
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 2:57:47 PM
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

Guys this is a mathematical equation, you can choose any portqual and any
minqual but the entire network has to follow suit.
For directly heard nodes and those that are known for good connectivity lock
those routes to a higher value by at least one octive.
If they do go down alternate routes can take over until their return.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...>
To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 19:28
Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list

> Jay
>
> With the MINQUAL=90 setting, you may have flooded your Nodes table because
> Of the low value, I would set them back to 168 then compile the bpqcfg.txt
> Clear the nodes, And rerun BPQ32
>
> BPQ32 Console, Actions, Clear Nodes, RE-Read bpqcfg.Bin and Reconfigure
> Node.
>
> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> WS7I
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:13 PM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>
>
>
>
> Actually my Min value is 90. I have tried lock routes. I am receiving his
> node broadcasts but it looks like he isn't getting mine. Just upgraded to
> the latest version and no change.
>
> All kind of a puzzle it was working fine until I tried to install winmor
> back a week or so ago. Now its just not dealing with him. My other guy
> will
> be back after the holiday so I will see if he's working with me.
>
> Jay
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>
> There's some math that goes on against the arriving quality. I'll have to
> dig out my notes on it.
>
> Those arriving quality values you see in monitor will be lowered by the
> "math" and thus probably below your minqual of 168 (if you haven't changed
> that).
>
> It also seems that nodes that are local apps on an AXIP link neighbor are
> handled differently.
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Melnik" <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>> In the global section (before the ports section) the following should be
>> set:
>>
>> MINQUAL=168
>>
>>
>>
>> In the AXIP Port:
>>
>> QUALITY=192
>>
>> MINQUAL=168
>>
>>
>>
>> The QUALITY=195 is OK, but the MINQUAL=168 the important one.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Melnik-N9PMO
>> Web WWW.N9PMO.com
>> NNTP Server N9PMO.DYNDNS.ORG Port 119
>>
>> Scanned by Symantec Corporate A/V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> WS7I
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:55 AM
>> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Nodes not going into nodes list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No changes to port qualities. They come in at 195, 190, and 190 RMS, BBS,
>> CHT. This one is just to one station. I have the AXIP set to quality 195.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is one of two nodes that I normally have and the other is off-line
>> at
>> the molment.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Jay
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeff - WA4ZKO <wa4zko@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Any changes to your port qualities?
>>
>> What quality do they arrive with? What is your port quality for the port
>> they are coming in on?
>>
>> 73
>> Jeff
>> WA4ZKO
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , WS7I
>
>> <ws7ik7tj@> wrote:
>> >
>> > I can see the broadcasts arrive but they don't show up in my nodes
>> > list.
>> > Only mine seem to be there. Was okay until I upgraded not long ago.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jay WS7I
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jay WS7I
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
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