Hank,

Thanks for your reply.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Hank Oredson <horedson@...> wrote:
> Have you put the TNC into KISS mode?

No, I hadn't put into KISS mode. I'll try that with the KPS-3+ in a
little bit. Since my earlier message I switched over to use the
internal TNC in the Kenwood TM-D710 and have gotten a little further.
Again, I haven't done anything to place the TNC into KISS mode, so all
of the rest of this message may not mean much.

After starting up BPQTerminal I can see incoming packets:

^^KB0SRJ-10>BEACON:KB0SRJ-10 PPFMA RMS Packet Gateway.  DIGI=PPFMA
NODE=KB0SRJ-7 DM78ou
^^
^^?EH
^^cmd:

where the ^^ represents some unprintable character displayed as a
black square on my monitor.

Attempting a connect "CONNECT 1 KB0SRJ-10" shows packets being
transmitted and received (assumed from T and R after time stamp), but
the radio does not transmit.

16:50:52T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:50:52R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:50:56T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:50:56R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:01T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:01R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:05T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:05R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:12T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:13R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>

Ending with a failure notification. Have I somhow configured the port
as loopback?

I'm sure I can locate the command to place the TNC into KISS mode, but
don't now where to insert that command into the configuration process.

Thanks again,

73, Lee K0QED

-----Original Message-----
From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: 16 October 2008 18:11
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Initial setup help

Hank,

Thanks for your reply.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Hank Oredson <horedson@comcast.net> wrote:
> Have you put the TNC into KISS mode?

No, I hadn't put into KISS mode. I'll try that with the KPS-3+ in a
little bit. Since my earlier message I switched over to use the
internal TNC in the Kenwood TM-D710 and have gotten a little further.
Again, I haven't done anything to place the TNC into KISS mode, so all
of the rest of this message may not mean much.

After starting up BPQTerminal I can see incoming packets:

^^KB0SRJ-10>BEACON:KB0SRJ-10 PPFMA RMS Packet Gateway. DIGI=PPFMA
NODE=KB0SRJ-7 DM78ou
^^
^^?EH
^^cmd:

where the ^^ represents some unprintable character displayed as a
black square on my monitor.

Attempting a connect "CONNECT 1 KB0SRJ-10" shows packets being
transmitted and received (assumed from T and R after time stamp), but
the radio does not transmit.

16:50:52T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:50:52R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:50:56T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:50:56R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:01T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:01R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:05T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:05R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:12T K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>
16:51:13R K0QED-3>K0QED-10 Port=1 <C C P>

Ending with a failure notification. Have I somhow configured the port
as loopback?

I'm sure I can locate the command to place the TNC into KISS mode, but
don't now where to insert that command into the configuration process.

Thanks again,

73, Lee K0QED

Hi Lee,

IF you have the port in bpqcfg.txt configured as a 'KISS' port you will
need to force your tnc into the KISS mode for it to communicate with
BPQ. You can do this using a terminal program (link HyperTerm in
Windows) for most tncs prior to starting BPQ.

- Mark K2CAN


Lee Inman wrote:
>
>
> I've just begun with BPQ32 and need a little help with establishing a
> basic system.
>
> As a start I'd like to use a KPC-3+ TNC to set up a a BPQ node and use
> the BPQ terminal application to interact with it. I have installed
> BPQ32 using the installer from the files section. I'm using the "small"
> example configuration files and have edited the bpqcfg.txt file with
> what I think are the minimal settings I need to change (mainly just
> callsigns and aliases).
>
> I have compiled the config file and then started up BPQTerminal. At
> this point I don't see any activity at the TNC or the radio. I do see
> on the console window that port 01 was initialized (ASYNC).
>
> I can use a simple terminal like HyperTerm and control the TNC to
> perform packet connections, interact with mailboxes, etc. Obviously, I
> have missed something very important, but reading the install documents
> hasn't revealed it to me. Your assistance would be appreciated.
>
> 73, Lee K0QED
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008
7:38 AM
>

---

From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:55 PM
To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Initial setup help

Hi Lee,

IF you have the port in bpqcfg.txt configured as a 'KISS' port you will
need to force your tnc into the KISS mode for it to communicate with
BPQ. You can do this using a terminal program (link HyperTerm in
Windows) for most tncs prior to starting BPQ.

- Mark K2CAN

Lee Inman wrote:
>
>
> I've just begun with BPQ32 and need a little help with establishing a
> basic system.
>
> As a start I'd like to use a KPC-3+ TNC to set up a a BPQ node and use
> the BPQ terminal application to interact with it. I have installed
> BPQ32 using the installer from the files section. I'm using the "small"
> example configuration files and have edited the bpqcfg.txt file with
> what I think are the minimal settings I need to change (mainly just
> callsigns and aliases).
>
> I have compiled the config file and then started up BPQTerminal. At
> this point I don't see any activity at the TNC or the radio. I do see
> on the console window that port 01 was initialized (ASYNC).
>
> I can use a simple terminal like HyperTerm and control the TNC to
> perform packet connections, interact with mailboxes, etc. Obviously, I
> have missed something very important, but reading the install documents
> hasn't revealed it to me. Your assistance would be appreciated.
>
> 73, Lee K0QED
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008 7:38 AM
>

Thanks everyone - manually enabling KISS mode has me on my way - I'm
receiving and sending packets from the terminal now. In case anyone
else needs it, to enable KISS mode on the Kenwood (TASCO) internal TNC
the commands are KISS ON followed by RESTART.

I'm off to see what else I can learn...

Thanks again.

73, Lee K0QED

Hello all,

Hope the cooler fall weather has everyone thinking about fall/winter
radio/packet projects.

Been working with John (G8BPQ) to resolve some odd issues with BPQ32
and RMS Packet under load testing on 9.6k rf links.

WinLink sees little daily use in my area and we mainly wanted it for
additional capability/flexibility during training or real world
emergencies. So I wanted to test it with messages of some size to them
and the simplest of terminal setups. Figuring that the need to move
messages in the 20-100k size range would be very likely in a real
world emergency situation, I test with those sizes.

I was doing some testing with a simple terminal uploading mail to RMS
Packet via a BPQ32 switch. With small (sub 10k) messages all seemed
fine. Then I noticed that after sending in a few 100K messages things
were getting slower and slower. Problem would start about 180-200k in
and get worse. I could see that the switch was sending back RNR
packets as apparently RMS Packet was suddenly choking on the incoming
data.

After lots of testing and head scratching by myself and John (G8BPQ) I
finally stumbled upon the cause. Seems the antivirus software was
watching/scanning the log files as RMS Packet writes them to disk. As
the log file sizes increased...there was just enough brief I/O
contention there to cause the problem.

Setting the AV software's real time scanning to ignore those log files
solved the problem. On slower inputs or systems that don't see much
usage, this problem may not even show up depending on the AV software
used and it's particular real time scanning configuration.

Just something to keep in mind in case you see similar issues.

73
Jeff
WA4ZKO

Hi john..
Wanted to report what I saw..
I installed it just fine.. All went well..

I still do not fully understand the Applications masks.. So I asked
Mike N9PMO for assistance.. He got the configuration down for me..

I Have been running it since.. And had no problems...

I ahve sent several messages of various size out and into the system
from remotes sites as well as via internet...

So I have seen no problems here.. Looks good.

I run a Dell 1600SC with 2 Xeon Processors 1.8GHz
4 BG Ram

And Hard drives in a Raid 0 configuration...

keep up the good work...

73 jerry n9lya

Hi Jerry,

I have a similar lack of understanding of application masks. Could you
share what you did to get RMSPacket working with BPQ32? I have a
terminal session functioning so far, but am unable to get RMSPacket to
respond to connection requests.

Thanks and 73, Lee K0QED

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:14 AM, n9lya <n9lya@...> wrote:
> Hi john..
> Wanted to report what I saw..
> I installed it just fine.. All went well..
>
> I still do not fully understand the Applications masks.. So I asked
> Mike N9PMO for assistance.. He got the configuration down for me..
>
> I Have been running it since.. And had no problems...
>
> I ahve sent several messages of various size out and into the system
> from remotes sites as well as via internet...
>
> So I have seen no problems here.. Looks good.
>
> I run a Dell 1600SC with 2 Xeon Processors 1.8GHz
> 4 BG Ram
>
> And Hard drives in a Raid 0 configuration...
>
> keep up the good work...
>
> 73 jerry n9lya
>
>

Hi Mike,

I'm trying to get a basic system running so that I can test RMSPacket
with the Kenwood TM-D710 radio/TNC combo. John gave me a couple of
pointers via email and I'm functional at this basic level now. At some
point I would like to learn more and will come back here with more
questions (I'm sure).

73, Lee K0QED


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mike Melnik <mmelnik1@...> wrote:
> Lee
>
>
>
> Let me know what applications you are running, BBS Cluster, etc. I can
> better explain once I know
>
> What you have setup
>
>
>
> Mike Melnik N9PMO
>
>
>
> Hi Lee..
>
>
>
> While always try to watch what Mike does when he is in remotely… I do not
> always get to see everything with stuff going on here..
>
>
>
> I know to get RMS and BPQ working with the standard BPQ you need to edit the
> bpwcfg.txt file to include the application RMS
>
>
>
> Also you need a file called AGWtoBPQ.exe
>
> And a special ini file in the BPQ32 directory called agwpe.ini
>
>
>
> If you wish send me your bpqcfg.txt file… I will look at it…
>
>
>
> 73 jerry
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:26 AM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Beta BPQ/RMS
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> I have a similar lack of understanding of application masks. Could you
> share what you did to get RMSPacket working with BPQ32? I have a
> terminal session functioning so far, but am unable to get RMSPacket to
> respond to connection requests.
>
> Thanks and 73, Lee K0QED
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:14 AM, n9lya <n9lya@...> wrote:
>> Hi john..
>> Wanted to report what I saw..
>> I installed it just fine.. All went well..
>>
>> I still do not fully understand the Applications masks.. So I asked
>> Mike N9PMO for assistance.. He got the configuration down for me..
>>
>> I Have been running it since.. And had no problems...
>>
>> I ahve sent several messages of various size out and into the system
>> from remotes sites as well as via internet...
>>
>> So I have seen no problems here.. Looks good.
>>
>> I run a Dell 1600SC with 2 Xeon Processors 1.8GHz
>> 4 BG Ram
>>
>> And Hard drives in a Raid 0 configuration...
>>
>> keep up the good work...
>>
>> 73 jerry n9lya
>>
>>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Jerry - N9LYA
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:55 AM
> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Beta BPQ/RMS
>
>

hi, I have connected bbq32 to bbq408a hard wired and I trying to get
telnet going on bbq32 but can't get it to work.would you have any
suggestions that I could try, or could anyone send me a working for
bbqcfg.My internet connection is ethernet.Thanks Richard Mi0rsn.

Far easier to use a NETROM link between bpq32 and bpq408 if you ask me.

I used this one for years. It might need a little adjustement but used
this to hook bpq32 up to old 408 with a AK1A cluster and DRSI boards.

;
;PORT
;   ID=AX44
;   PORTNUM=2
;   TYPE=ASYNC
;   PROTOCOL=NETROM
;   IOADDR=2
;   SPEED=9600
;   QUALITY=1
;   USERS=10
;   CHANNEL=A
;   MAXFRAME=4
;   TXDELAY=30
;   SLOTTIME=10
;   PERSIST=255
;   FULLDUP=1
;   FRACK=3000
;   RESPTIME=500
;   RETRIES=5
;   PACLEN=230
;   MHEARD=Y
;ENDPORT
PORT

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM, mi0rsn <mi0rsn@...> wrote:
> hi, I have connected bbq32 to bbq408a hard wired and I trying to get
> telnet going on bbq32 but can't get it to work.would you have any
> suggestions that I could try, or could anyone send me a working for
> bbqcfg.My internet connection is ethernet.Thanks Richard Mi0rsn.
>
>



--
Jay WS7I

Thanks for everyones help.When I click on bpqtelnet I get bind(sock)
failed error 10048,could anyone tell me how to find out the port
number for the eternet connection.And will I be able to telnet into
the bbs from this connection?
Richard mi0rsn.

I have not set up BPQ since DOS was king ...Don't like to

think of that.    I want to use BPQ using the 9612+ via com2.

Anyone have the setup?

Thanks

Dave

Hi all still having problems with telnet. I still get   bind(sock)
failed error 10048.I think I have bpqcfg not set up right and not sure
about the port. I have tried 80 72 and 32 with no success.
Could some one send me a copy of bpqcfg. And  where or do you put the
ip address?
I am running windows xp professional
Richard
MI0RSN

You are probably using the BPQ Telnet port in
some other application that you are running.

Check your  BPQTelnetServer.cfg file to see what
TCPPORT= is set to.
Change it to a new port number and restart BPQ.
If that solves the error problem, you should be
able to telnet into the node using the new port
number.

If the error message re-appears, let us know.

- Mark K2CAN


mi0rsn wrote:
>
>
> Hi all still having problems with telnet. I still get bind(sock)
> failed error 10048.I think I have bpqcfg not set up right and not sure
> about the port. I have tried 80 72 and 32 with no success.
> Could some one send me a copy of bpqcfg. And where or do you put the
> ip address?
> I am running windows xp professional
> Richard
> MI0RSN
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1758 - Release Date: 10/31/2008
8:22 AM
>

This is a little off the groups main interest.
But given the new support development for RMS, I
thought I would ask my question here.

Does anyone know how to setup beaconing in RMS
to digi through an attached BPQ32 Node and out
through another Node ?

I am not exactly sure how the 'path' line should
read in the RMS BPQ port configuration.

In my case, I have a FlexNet Digi attached to
the BPQ32 Node and want to send the beacons out
on that system.

- Mark K2CAN

I have an ancient 486 with 8 megs of memory running BPQ (408 I think)
and a BBS - AA4RE to be specific.
Three of the four serial ports are configured in BPQ for KISS mode and
talk to three TNCS which are connected to three radios on different bands.

I want to configure the 4th serial port to communicate directly to the
BBS - a simple pass-through, with no computer protocol (no KISS or
HDLC or NETROM protocol).  This would allow me to use a simple
terminal (laptop with hyperterm) to talk to the BBS when I'm in the
same room with it, instead of coming in through a radio and TNC.

Can anyone suggest whether this is possible, and if so how to
accomplish it?

thanks
Al

Hi Mark K2CAN
Thanks for the help I got it going.   The telnet server is idle
I then go to run and type http://localhost :8010 and the telnet server
goes
To logging in and that it just sits there. What am I doing wrong?
I have the telnet port at 8010 is this right?

Richard
MI0RSN

Hi Richard,

Try -

telnet://localhost:8010

Note the 'telnet'..

You were trying to use HTTP to access a telnet
server.

You need to be using a telnet client to access
the server.

- Mark K2CAN



mi0rsn wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mark K2CAN
> Thanks for the help I got it going. The telnet server is idle
> I then go to run and type http://localhost :8010 and the telnet server
> goes
> To logging in and that it just sits there. What am I doing wrong?
> I have the telnet port at 8010 is this right?
>
> Richard
> MI0RSN

Hi Al,

There is no way to use a terminal program to
directly access the Node without using any type
of protocol that I am aware of. John can correct
me about this if I am wrong.

However, you could setup a KISS port on the main
Node. Then, install FlexNet32 with a KISS port
and the Paxon terminal program on the laptop and
use the Paxon terminal program to access the
Node. I have this type of setup here and it
works fine. This assumes that you are running an
OS on the laptop that will support 32 bit programs.

I know there are a couple of other terminal
emulator programs out there that have KISS
porting available but their names escape me at
the moment.

- Mark K2CAN


Al Whaley wrote:
>
>
> I have an ancient 486 with 8 megs of memory running BPQ (408 I think)
> and a BBS - AA4RE to be specific.
> Three of the four serial ports are configured in BPQ for KISS mode and
> talk to three TNCS which are connected to three radios on different bands.
>
> I want to configure the 4th serial port to communicate directly to the
> BBS - a simple pass-through, with no computer protocol (no KISS or
> HDLC or NETROM protocol). This would allow me to use a simple
> terminal (laptop with hyperterm) to talk to the BBS when I'm in the
> same room with it, instead of coming in through a radio and TNC.
>
> Can anyone suggest whether this is possible, and if so how to
> accomplish it?
>
> thanks
> Al

I hope someone can help explain why I occassionaly get "Busy From" when
connecting to one of my nodes through another node.  I'm using BPQ32
version 4.10.1.2 for both of these nodes which has worked flawlessly
for several months. I now occassionly get "Busy From" when I connect to
the one node from the other.  This annoyance corrects itself, but the
problem keeps coming back.  I wondered if the probelm might be caused
by weak signal strength, but I assume that if that was the case, I
would get a "Failure With" message. Interestingly, I never have trouble
connecting the other way, even when I'm getting "Busy From" from the
other direction.

Thanks,
Harmen, VE3EMA