And they were exterminated in Canterbury since we have been living here. They were nice to see in banks peninsula in the 70s. Jan ... [Non-text portions of...
Jan Walker
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Mar 1, 2009 6:20 pm
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The nearest kiwi to Eketahuna would probably be at the Mt. Bruce National Wildlife Centre, just down the road. What good is a rook? Sadly, rooks seem to be...
Ian Armitage
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Mar 1, 2009 6:43 pm
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Hi plenty of good information about Rooks at this site http://www.rooks.org.uk/ It also says "Rooks were introduced to New Zealand by settling farmers, to help...
One man's meat - another man's poison..... Looks as if there's considerable divergence of opinion on Rooks, judging by the previous postings. To me, they're a...
Waxing poetic about rooks is akin to waxing romantic about rabbits or stoats. They are all warm and fuzzy within their native ecosystems. NZ is a global...
Roger Radd
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Mar 1, 2009 9:33 pm
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Overseas Rooks are known to forage for eggs of meadow nesting birds... shall we let the population expand in NZ to see what effect they have? Kevin _____ From:...
Kevin Matthews
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Mar 1, 2009 11:22 pm
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Some people are more up to date with this species than I am. Are there any good references about the impact of Rooks on the NZ Birdlife and or environment? ...
Rob Schuckard
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Mar 2, 2009 12:57 am
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UK farming manages perfectly well with 1.5 million pairs of rooks in the country. The slaughter here is pointless!! ...
Georgina Owen
jlowen@...
Mar 2, 2009 1:23 am
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I've got a free day this Friday and was going to have a go at seeing Orange - fronted parakeets in the Hawdon valley. Can anyone give me some idea of where to...
Richard Fenner
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Mar 2, 2009 1:50 am
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UK farming might manage well with 1.5 millions pairs of rooks, but what about UK endemic and native birds ? I agree with Roger and Kevin - allowing the...
Suzi Phillips
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Mar 2, 2009 1:55 am
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Hi all Nigel Milius reports that the Straw-necked Ibis was present this afternoon (Monday) in the same place. Regards, Richard [Non-text portions of this...
Richard Schofield
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Mar 2, 2009 2:10 am
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... This would be because the rooks are in an ecosystem adapted over thousands of years to the presence of rooks! These are UK birds in UK - i.e. natives....
Roger Radd
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Mar 2, 2009 2:18 am
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And what is different in our paddocks and farms? The occasional Spur-wing and White-faced Heron? Phil ________________________________ From:...
Battley, Phil
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Mar 2, 2009 2:28 am
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Suzi, Rooks are native to the UK and much of Europe and through to China and Japan, so I would think that they do not do any more harm to the native and...
Why spend limited resources controlling rooks while real known villains like ship rats are causing real damage? Should blackbirds and starlings be controlled?...
Hi Neil, Very wry, but you know I definitely meant predate as in predatory 8-) After David Pattemore did his MSc in 2003 on the "Establishment and dispersal...
Suzi Phillips
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Mar 2, 2009 3:12 am
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... Perhaps if they never left the pasture this might be a fair comment. Historically in NZ they damaged "fruit, vegetable, grain and nut crops, especially...
Roger Radd
kiwi@...
Mar 2, 2009 3:21 am
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Thanks Suzi. I'll have to look into David's thesis as I've never managed to find any documented evidence of myna preying on native birds in the past. I suspect...
Hi all, A lot of discussion, but no references about the impact of Rook on NZ wildlife yet? Cheers Rob From: BIRDING-NZ@yahoogroups.com...
Rob Schuckard
rschckrd@...
Mar 2, 2009 3:46 am
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... From; http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/04/08/2044900.htm?site=science/scribblygum&topic=latest The International Union for the Conservation of...
Roger Radd
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Mar 2, 2009 3:51 am
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On Marquesas Islands, Myna has been linked to the disturbance (???) of Marquesas Swiftlet. The only Island where swiftlet is not common is the island where...
Rob Schuckard
rschckrd@...
Mar 2, 2009 3:53 am
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That is not New Zealand. We generally don't have endemic hole nesting birds (or mammals) in rural and urban areas where mynas are most abundant. Neil. _____ ...
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Roger Radd
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Mar 2, 2009 4:03 am
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On mynas Spending 5 months working on the Echo Parakeet recovery program in Mauritius we had plenty of experience with Indian Myna's there. There are...
Shane McPherson
shane.mcpherson@...
Mar 2, 2009 4:04 am
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There is no question of whether or not mynas predate the nests of native birds. I have personally witnessed a myna pulling small kakariki chicks from nesting...
How about someone looking up HANZAB? There are extensive studies documented there on the contents of rooks stomachs in NZ. Yes they are omnivorous, but they...
Jan Walker
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Mar 2, 2009 8:18 am
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Rooks are one of New Zealand's resident species that I've never managed to see. Whatever their status, they're common enough to be featured in most NZ bird...
Hi Terry and everyone, In my one year stay in NZ, Miranda/Firth of Thames was the only place where I saw a few rooks on every visit. I must admit to being a...
What a sad place New Zealand would be without European introductions filling some of the gaps; the birding vacuum would be even greater. Where do we draw the...