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#730 From: "James F. Boehner, MD" <jboehner01@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:50 am
Subject: Control Channel Scanning
jboehner01
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Quick question-

If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other tower
control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control frequency?

'73 de Jim N2ZZ



----- Original Message -----
From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
control channel data on the frequency.
3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
UPMan




________________________________
From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning



Three things here.

1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed the
effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.

2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
channels.

3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program the
control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
scanners?

Thanks

John Newell

----- Original Message -----
From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
it's own.

JOhn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
> channel.
> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the trunked
> system that way?
>
>

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#731 From: MCH <mch@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:13 am
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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Well, two sites should not be in the same list - they should be
programmed as separate sites (as they are).

But, I haven't found any way to manually switch towers yet. Did you try
simply turning the scroll knob? Well, I guess that would only work if
the System is programmed as described above, but reprogram it and try
the scroll control - it may 'jump sites'.

Joe M.

James F. Boehner, MD wrote:
> Quick question-
>
> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other tower
> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control frequency?
>
> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
> control channel data on the frequency.
> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
> UPMan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
>
> Three things here.
>
> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed the
> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
>
> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
> channels.
>
> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program the
> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
> scanners?
>
> Thanks
>
> John Newell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
> it's own.
>
> JOhn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>> channel.
>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the trunked
>> system that way?
>>
>>
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#732 From: "johnstark" <johnstark@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:22 am
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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I was thinking scroll and Hold on the weaker CC

JS


----- Original Message -----
From: "MCH" <mch@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


> Well, two sites should not be in the same list - they should be
> programmed as separate sites (as they are).
>
> But, I haven't found any way to manually switch towers yet. Did you try
> simply turning the scroll knob? Well, I guess that would only work if
> the System is programmed as described above, but reprogram it and try
> the scroll control - it may 'jump sites'.
>
> Joe M.
>
> James F. Boehner, MD wrote:
>> Quick question-
>>
>> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
>> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other
>> tower
>> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control
>> frequency?
>>
>> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>
>> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
>> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
>> control channel data on the frequency.
>> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
>> UPMan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>
>>
>> Three things here.
>>
>> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed
>> the
>> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
>>
>> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
>> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only
>> control
>> channels.
>>
>> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program
>> the
>> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the
>> Uniden
>> scanners?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John Newell
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
>> it's own.
>>
>> JOhn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
>> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
>>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>>> channel.
>>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any
>>> control
>>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
>>> trunked
>>> system that way?
>>>
>>>
>>
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#733 From: "johnstark" <johnstark@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:32 am
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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Actually thinking about it can't the two sites be given QK's to select and
deselect them? That would probably be the simplest way to do it.

JS


----- Original Message -----
From: "MCH" <mch@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


> Well, two sites should not be in the same list - they should be
> programmed as separate sites (as they are).
>
> But, I haven't found any way to manually switch towers yet. Did you try
> simply turning the scroll knob? Well, I guess that would only work if
> the System is programmed as described above, but reprogram it and try
> the scroll control - it may 'jump sites'.
>
> Joe M.
>
> James F. Boehner, MD wrote:
>> Quick question-
>>
>> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
>> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other
>> tower
>> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control
>> frequency?
>>
>> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>
>> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
>> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
>> control channel data on the frequency.
>> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
>> UPMan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>
>>
>> Three things here.
>>
>> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed
>> the
>> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
>>
>> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
>> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only
>> control
>> channels.
>>
>> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program
>> the
>> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the
>> Uniden
>> scanners?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John Newell
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
>> it's own.
>>
>> JOhn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
>> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
>>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>>> channel.
>>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any
>>> control
>>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
>>> trunked
>>> system that way?
>>>
>>>
>>
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#734 From: <dmccorm@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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Other than a separate site, there would not be another way to do it. It would
still track the first active control channel it hears. No provision in the
firmware for the radio to look at the RSSI to determine which one to track.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MCH" <mch@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
> > Well, two sites should not be in the same list - they should be
> > programmed as separate sites (as they are).
> >
> > But, I haven't found any way to manually switch towers yet. Did you try
> > simply turning the scroll knob? Well, I guess that would only work if
> > the System is programmed as described above, but reprogram it and try
> > the scroll control - it may 'jump sites'.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > James F. Boehner, MD wrote:
> >> Quick question-
> >>
> >> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
> >> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other
> >> tower
> >> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control
> >> frequency?
> >>
> >> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
> >> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
> >> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
> >> control channel data on the frequency.
> >> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
> >> UPMan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
> >> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Three things here.
> >>
> >> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed
> >> the
> >> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
> >>
> >> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
> >> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only
> >> control
> >> channels.
> >>
> >> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program
> >> the
> >> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the
> >> Uniden
> >> scanners?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> John Newell
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
> >> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> >> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
> >>
> >> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
> >> it's own.
> >>
> >> JOhn
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
> >> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
> >> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
> >>
> >>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
> >>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
> >>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
> >>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
> >>> channel.
> >>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
> >>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any
> >>> control
> >>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
> >>> trunked
> >>> system that way?
> >>>
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#735 From: <dmccorm@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:27 pm
Subject: Activity Indicators
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I like the activity indicator feature and the method to select it as a display
mode now. Now that there is an adequate amount of DMA it not so bad to actually
have all the trunked  frequencies in the system/site for Motorola and P25
systems. Anyone else using this feature?

#736 From: "Robert Mace" <agentid44@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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I do not own one of these radios yet, but will buy one in the 3rd week of
MAY...that is when Obama  will send to my wife and I our $250.00  economic
recovery payments. ( we are both on SS as we are retired).

Anyway I was thinking that you might be able to make or mark the 2nd tower a
"priority" tower which would make any action on it come up first.

But like I said I don't know if this can even be done or not, but it might
be worth checking into.
Robert Mace from Akron Ohio   KB8VJR

-------Original Message-------

From: James F. Boehner, MD
Date: 03/31/09 00:03:47
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Quick question-

If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other tower

control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control frequency?

'73 de Jim N2ZZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
control channel data on the frequency.
3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
UPMan

________________________________
From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Three things here.

1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed the

effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.

2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
channels.

3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program the

control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
scanners?

Thanks

John Newell

----- Original Message -----
From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
it's own.

JOhn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
> channel.
> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the trunked
> system that way?
>
>

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#737 From: "Mel" <robinson4724@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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The only way I know to do this is to get out the plastic and buy another
scanner, one on one tower and one on the other.

Mel
----- Original Message -----
From: "James F. Boehner, MD" <jboehner01@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


> Quick question-
>
> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other
> tower
> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control
> frequency?
>
> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
> control channel data on the frequency.
> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
> UPMan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
>
> Three things here.
>
> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed
> the
> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
>
> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
> channels.
>
> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program
> the
> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
> scanners?
>
> Thanks
>
> John Newell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
> it's own.
>
> JOhn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>> channel.
>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
>> trunked
>> system that way?
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#738 From: Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
uniden.upman
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The scanner is only going to stop on the first control channel it can detect per
site. With only one exception I am aware of, no site ever has more than one
control channel active at a time. The correct way to select between multiple
sites is to program each site (physical) as a site in the scanner. Then, you can
assign each sites its own SQK or lock/unlock independently.
 UPMan




________________________________
From: Robert Mace <agentid44@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:13:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


I do not own one of these radios yet, but will buy one in the 3rd week of
MAY...that is when Obama will send to my wife and I our $250.00 economic
recovery payments. ( we are both on SS as we are retired).

Anyway I was thinking that you might be able to make or mark the 2nd tower a
"priority" tower which would make any action on it come up first.

But like I said I don't know if this can even be done or not, but it might
be worth checking into.
Robert Mace from Akron Ohio KB8VJR

-------Original Message----- --

From: James F. Boehner, MD
Date: 03/31/09 00:03:47
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Quick question-

If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other tower

control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control frequency?

'73 de Jim N2ZZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@ yahoo.com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
control channel data on the frequency.
3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
UPMan

____________ _________ _________ __
From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@ comcast.net>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Three things here.

1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed the

effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.

2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
channels.

3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program the

control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
scanners?

Thanks

John Newell

----- Original Message -----
From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlin k .net>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
it's own.

JOhn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogrou p s.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
> channel.
> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the trunked
> system that way?
>
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#739 From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:05 pm
Subject: Order change
chavalo007
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I ordered my BCD396XT from Scanner Master Tuesday, March 24.  Two days later
I got an e-mail asking for the three-digit code from my credit card.  I
e-mailed the code back to them immediately.  Just yesterday (Monday, March
30), I got another e-mail asking for the code.  I found out that the order
hadn't even shipped yet.  I e-mailed Scanner Master several times since the
order asking for a confirmation and an updated status, but got no replies.
After several days of delayed responses, I canceled my order with Scanner
Master.  I ordered this morning from CEI (www.usascan.com) for $489.95 (with
shipping included), and hope to receive my BCD396XT by next week.







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#740 From: "torontokris" <torontokris@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Order change
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Scanner Master is out of stock now. That could be why the delay now.

Possibly in the time that they didnt have your 3 digit pin # (they cant process
your order) they shipped all the remaining stock (I bet they are flying off the
shelf).

I was worried as Im in Canada, I figured there would be a delay. I ordered from
Scanner Master last week as well included my pin and it shipped the next
morning. Couldnt be happier. I couldnt order from CEi due to the $60 shipping to
Canada rate CEI charges.


Think on the bright side... CEI is cheaper for you anyway, so it all worked out.





--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Hall" <bhall007@...> wrote:
>
> I ordered my BCD396XT from Scanner Master Tuesday, March 24.  Two days later
> I got an e-mail asking for the three-digit code from my credit card.  I
> e-mailed the code back to them immediately.  Just yesterday (Monday, March
> 30), I got another e-mail asking for the code.  I found out that the order
> hadn't even shipped yet.  I e-mailed Scanner Master several times since the
> order asking for a confirmation and an updated status, but got no replies.
> After several days of delayed responses, I canceled my order with Scanner
> Master.  I ordered this morning from CEI (www.usascan.com) for $489.95 (with
> shipping included), and hope to receive my BCD396XT by next week.

#741 From: MCH <mch@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
NCC74656_USS...
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Yes, they can - provided they are programmed as separate sites.

And I'm not sure who said it, but separate sites are always evaluated -
the 'first programmed' does not apply to separate sites. The scanner
will pick the first control channel from each site and evaluate it,
provided that site is enabled.

Joe M.

johnstark wrote:
> Actually thinking about it can't the two sites be given QK's to select and
> deselect them? That would probably be the simplest way to do it.
>
> JS
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MCH" <mch@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
>> Well, two sites should not be in the same list - they should be
>> programmed as separate sites (as they are).
>>
>> But, I haven't found any way to manually switch towers yet. Did you try
>> simply turning the scroll knob? Well, I guess that would only work if
>> the System is programmed as described above, but reprogram it and try
>> the scroll control - it may 'jump sites'.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> James F. Boehner, MD wrote:
>>> Quick question-
>>>
>>> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
>>> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other
>>> tower
>>> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control
>>> frequency?
>>>
>>> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
>>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
>>> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
>>> control channel data on the frequency.
>>> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
>>> UPMan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@...>
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Three things here.
>>>
>>> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed
>>> the
>>> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
>>>
>>> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
>>> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only
>>> control
>>> channels.
>>>
>>> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program
>>> the
>>> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the
>>> Uniden
>>> scanners?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> John Newell
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlink .net>
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>>
>>> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
>>> it's own.
>>>
>>> JOhn
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
>>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
>>> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>>
>>>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>>>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>>>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
>>>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>>>> channel.
>>>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>>>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any
>>>> control
>>>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
>>>> trunked
>>>> system that way?
>>>>
>>>>
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#742 From: Peter Laws <plaws0@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Order change
plawsy_y
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:21, torontokris <torontokris@...> wrote:
> Scanner Master is out of stock now. That could be why the delay now.
>
> Possibly in the time that they didnt have your 3 digit pin # (they cant
process your order) they shipped all the remaining stock (I bet they are flying
off the shelf).

CCV, not PIN, but yeah - judging from how long it took to get through
to them last week and the fact that they are OOS now flying is a good
term.

Mine is in a silver trailer, probably on a flat car, somewhere between
the UPS Hub in Chicago and here.   Thursday, it will be in my hot
little hands.  :-)


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

#743 From: "just_a_radio_guy" <eika@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: Order change
just_a_radio...
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I have placed order online at scannermaster.com 2 days ago. They promised to
ship immediately, but item not yet shipped out.

When I did the order, 396XT have been noted as In Stock.

Someone spoke here that they provide the best service...

#744 From: Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: Printable Quick Reference
uniden.upman
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(This was started on RadioReference, but roughly parallels recent discussions in
this group, too.)

I think there are a couple of different modes of use:
1) Programming
2) Using

Programming is hard to document in a fixed format...every system programs
differently, depending not only on the type of system but on the individual
user's interests. Hard to boil programming down to a "one sheeter."

Using, on the other hand, could probably be boiled down to a one- or two-page
quick reference (although certain things like SQK/GQK/SK/Channel Tags would vary
by individual user).

So (and here's something else I could never do with a printed O/M) continue to
discuss here, but if you get a good idea for something that should be included
in a quick reference, go over to QuickReferenceInput < UnidenMan4 < TWiki and
submit it. I've "seeded" the table with a few examples but don't have time to
fully populate it right now. (If someone is updating the table, you'll get an
error when you click EDIT on the table. Give them some time to finish, then try
again.)
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#745 From: Don.Curtis@...
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Order change
donc113
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They are very good.   There are times, especially like now when a new model just
comes out, where their initial supply isn't enough to supply the initial orders
and pre-orders.   It may well have been in stock when you started your order
process, but by the time you finished it, it might have been out of stock.

Give them a call, I'm sure they'll be happy to let you know when your order
should ship.


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I have placed order online at scannermaster.com 2 days ago. They promised to
ship immediately, but item not yet shipped out.

When I did the order, 396XT have been noted as In Stock.

Someone spoke here that they provide the best service...




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#746 From: charles hamlin <chamlin555@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Order change
chamlin555
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i have ordered from them awhile back and orderd the 396t and got it in bout a
week. it takes two or three days to process the order even if in stock. also
depends how you paid, and what kind of shipping you ask for.
--- On Tue, 3/31/09, just_a_radio_guy <eika@...> wrote:


From: just_a_radio_guy <eika@...>
Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: Order change
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 1:40 PM






I have placed order online at scannermaster. com 2 days ago. They promised to
ship immediately, but item not yet shipped out.

When I did the order, 396XT have been noted as In Stock.

Someone spoke here that they provide the best service...
















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#747 From: Peter Laws <plaws0@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Order change
plawsy_y
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 13:54, charles hamlin <chamlin555@...> wrote:
>
> i have ordered from them awhile back and orderd the 396t and got it in bout a
week. it takes two or three days to process the order even if in stock. also
depends how you paid, and what kind of shipping you ask for.


Ordered from Scanner Master Wednesday, they got them in Friday and it
went into the UPS system that day.  It's due here Thursday.  Didn't
care to pay for faster delivery.


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Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

#748 From: "Richard A. Victor" <Victor@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Order change
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I called them Friday morning first thing and ordered mine.  They
didn't have them yet but were expecting two shipments that day.  They
shipped mine before the end of the day and the tracking shows that
it's out for delivery today so I'm awaiting the UPS delivery.

Dick

At 02:09 PM 3/31/2009, you wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 13:54, charles hamlin <chamlin555@...> wrote:
> >
> > i have ordered from them awhile back and orderd the 396t and got
> it in bout a week. it takes two or three days to process the order
> even if in stock. also depends how you paid, and what kind of
> shipping you ask for.
>
>Ordered from Scanner Master Wednesday, they got them in Friday and it
>went into the UPS system that day.  It's due here Thursday.  Didn't
>care to pay for faster delivery.
>--
>Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

#749 From: "J. Newell" <john.o.newell@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:45 pm
Subject: Size of Display Window vs 330T?
jnewell2002
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Does anyone know whether the size of the plastic display window on the BCD396XT
is the same as the BR-330T? 



Thanks

John Newell





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#750 From: MCH <mch@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: Size of Display Window vs 330T?
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It should be. It uses the same case (except for some paint differences).

Joe M.

J. Newell wrote:
>
> Does anyone know whether the size of the plastic display window on the
BCD396XT is the same as the BR-330T?
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#751 From: Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: Size of Display Window vs 330T?
uniden.upman
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Actually, there was a tooling change (improved SPL by opening the speaker
grille) but the display area is the same.
 UPMan




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To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:49:09 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Size of Display Window vs 330T?


It should be. It uses the same case (except for some paint differences) .

Joe M.

J. Newell wrote:
>
> Does anyone know whether the size of the plastic display window on the
BCD396XT is the same as the BR-330T?
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#752 From: "johnstark" <johnstark@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: Size of Display Window vs 330T?
inscan43
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Hmmm, gives me an idea to buy a spare XT case and put it on the T.....

John


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To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Size of Display Window vs 330T?


Actually, there was a tooling change (improved SPL by opening the speaker
grille) but the display area is the same.
UPMan




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To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:49:09 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Size of Display Window vs 330T?


It should be. It uses the same case (except for some paint differences) .

Joe M.

J. Newell wrote:
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#753 From: "J. Newell" <john.o.newell@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: Size of Display Window vs 330T?
jnewell2002
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Thanks, that was my guess.



John


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To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:49:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Size of Display Window vs 330T?

It should be. It uses the same case (except for some paint differences).

Joe M.

J. Newell wrote:
>
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BCD396XT is the same as the BR-330T?  
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#754 From: "dmascanning.com" <radiodon9294@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:35 pm
Subject: BCD396XT Scanner registration question
ke4jd
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Paul,

I registered my two BCD396XTs and my BC346XT scanners today and now the My
Scanners site has a "Get V3 Registration Key" beside each. Since the current
firmware is major version 1 is this an error?

Thanks,
Don, KE4JD


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#755 From: Paul Opitz <pmanu44@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 2:37 am
Subject: Re: BCD396XT Scanner registration question
pmanu44
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It is a glitch on the site. I'll get it fixed tomorrow.




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To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:35:48 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] BCD396XT Scanner registration question


Paul,

I registered my two BCD396XTs and my BC346XT scanners today and now the My
Scanners site has a "Get V3 Registration Key" beside each. Since the current
firmware is major version 1 is this an error?

Thanks,
Don, KE4JD

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#756 From: "James F. Boehner, MD" <jboehner01@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 3:34 am
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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Paul and the rest,

Thanks for the responses.  I have not looked into multi-site trunking yet,
but with each site that is programmed, all can share the same talkgroups, or
do they have to be copied to each programmed site?  (i.e. each site a
different system?)

As a specific, I am programming in the Palmetto 800 system in SC.  I have
several active sites in my area, many share the same talkgroups.  I would
also plan on having all sites programmed so that wherever in the state I go,
I can have access to the PAL 800 system.

My apologies for the questions.  I have not looked into this in detail with
the manual.

'73 de Jim N2ZZ



----- Original Message -----
From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


The scanner is only going to stop on the first control channel it can detect
per site. With only one exception I am aware of, no site ever has more than
one control channel active at a time. The correct way to select between
multiple sites is to program each site (physical) as a site in the scanner.
Then, you can assign each sites its own SQK or lock/unlock independently.
UPMan




________________________________
From: Robert Mace <agentid44@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:13:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


I do not own one of these radios yet, but will buy one in the 3rd week of
MAY...that is when Obama will send to my wife and I our $250.00 economic
recovery payments. ( we are both on SS as we are retired).

Anyway I was thinking that you might be able to make or mark the 2nd tower a
"priority" tower which would make any action on it come up first.

But like I said I don't know if this can even be done or not, but it might
be worth checking into.
Robert Mace from Akron Ohio KB8VJR

-------Original Message----- --

From: James F. Boehner, MD
Date: 03/31/09 00:03:47
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Quick question-

If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other tower

control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control frequency?

'73 de Jim N2ZZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@ yahoo.com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
control channel data on the frequency.
3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
UPMan

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To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Three things here.

1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed the

effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.

2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
channels.

3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program the

control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
scanners?

Thanks

John Newell

----- Original Message -----
From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlin k .net>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
it's own.

JOhn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogrou p s.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
> channel.
> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the trunked
> system that way?
>
>

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#757 From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 3:02 am
Subject: Custom Band Plans for Rebanded Motorola Trunked Systems
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For the BCD396XT to be able to scan a re-banded system such as UCAN
(http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=601), do I need to program both
of the so-called band plans below?  What does the band plan do and why are
two of them necessary?  Do I need to enter these two band plans for all
sites within the trunked system?  Where can I learn more about this?

Attached is a screen capture of FreeSCAN for the system I'm programming.  I
entered the two band plans as specified and I would like to know if it is
correct.

Thanks!


-----Original Message-----
From: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Uniden UPMan
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:13 AM
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Yes, but you still have to program it correctly.

Assuming it is a "normal" rebanded system, you would program it as Motorola
Type II 800 Custom and use the following band plan entries:

Band Plan Base Freq (Lower) Base Freq (Upper) Offset Polarity Spacing
1 851.025MHz 854.000MHz 440 + 25 kHz
2 851.0125MHz 868.9875MHz 0 + 25 kHz
 UPMan




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From: Brian Hall <bhall007@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:02:09 AM
Subject: RE: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


Isn't the BCD306XT automatically "fixed" to handle the rebanding?

-----Original Message-----
From: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf
Of johnstark
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:58 AM
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

Brian,

Thats an easy one to set up, just use the red and blue CC channels for each

site. The system is analog Mot type II. Where you may be having problems is
that the system is rebanded so you may need to set up the tables for it.
Someone on RR should be able to give you the correct table for it.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning

> Utah Communications Agency Network (UCAN) -
> (http://www.radioref erence.com/ apps/db/? sid=601)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com] On
Behalf
> Of johnstark
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:46 PM
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> No problem. Curious though what system your programming since you didn't
> mention a city. county state or system.
> There may be more info you need to know depending on the system.
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
>> Cool, thanks!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of johnstark
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:18 PM
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
>> it's own.
>>
>> JOhn
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
>> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
>> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>>
>>
>>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the
>>> system
>>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>>> channel.
>>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any
>>> control
>>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
>>> trunked
>>> system that way?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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#758 From: "johnstark" <johnstark@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 4:03 am
Subject: Re: Control Channel Scanning
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All sites in a system use the same TGID's so you only need to enter an ID
once. As long as the ID has affiliated with a site you will hear it.

If 4000 has affiliated with site A but not site B you will only hear it on
site A, but if it is affiliated with both sites you will hear it on both
sites.

John


----- Original Message -----
From: "James F. Boehner, MD" <jboehner01@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning


> Paul and the rest,
>
> Thanks for the responses.  I have not looked into multi-site trunking yet,
> but with each site that is programmed, all can share the same talkgroups,
> or
> do they have to be copied to each programmed site?  (i.e. each site a
> different system?)
>
> As a specific, I am programming in the Palmetto 800 system in SC.  I have
> several active sites in my area, many share the same talkgroups.  I would
> also plan on having all sites programmed so that wherever in the state I
> go,
> I can have access to the PAL 800 system.
>
> My apologies for the questions.  I have not looked into this in detail
> with
> the manual.
>
> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
> The scanner is only going to stop on the first control channel it can
> detect
> per site. With only one exception I am aware of, no site ever has more
> than
> one control channel active at a time. The correct way to select between
> multiple sites is to program each site (physical) as a site in the
> scanner.
> Then, you can assign each sites its own SQK or lock/unlock independently.
> UPMan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Mace <agentid44@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:13:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>
> I do not own one of these radios yet, but will buy one in the 3rd week of
> MAY...that is when Obama will send to my wife and I our $250.00 economic
> recovery payments. ( we are both on SS as we are retired).
>
> Anyway I was thinking that you might be able to make or mark the 2nd tower
> a
> "priority" tower which would make any action on it come up first.
>
> But like I said I don't know if this can even be done or not, but it might
> be worth checking into.
> Robert Mace from Akron Ohio KB8VJR
>
> -------Original Message----- --
>
> From: James F. Boehner, MD
> Date: 03/31/09 00:03:47
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> Quick question-
>
> If you have two towers, one stronger (and first in the control frequency
> list), and always locked on first, is there a way to move to the other
> tower
>
> control frequency without locking out the stronger tower control
> frequency?
>
> '73 de Jim N2ZZ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@ yahoo.com>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> 1. It will have no detectable affect on scan speed.
> 2. It only knows a system frequency is a control channel by detecting
> control channel data on the frequency.
> 3. Correct. Control channel only has been the norm for several years.
> UPMan
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: J. Newell <john.o.newell@ comcast.net>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> Three things here.
>
> 1. I assume that programming only control channels will materially speed
> the
>
> effective scan rate, since the voice channels aren't scanned.
>
> 2. I assume that the scanner has no way of knowing which programmed
> frequency is a control channel, so the solution is to program only control
> channels.
>
> 3. Hasn't it been true for quite a while that you only needed to program
> the
>
> control channels? In other words, this isn't a recent change in the Uniden
> scanners?
>
> Thanks
>
> John Newell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johnstark" <johnstark@earthlin k .net>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:17:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
> Program all control channels, the scanner will use the active channel on
> it's own.
>
> JOhn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Hall" <bhall007@hotmail. com>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogrou p s.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08 PM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Control Channel Scanning
>
>> I'm still waiting for my BCD396XT, and in the meantime, I'm having fun
>> programming stuff in to FreeSCAN. I've never had a scanner capable of
>> scanning a trunked system on just the control channel. On RR, the system
>> I'm following has a main control channel, and an alternate control
>> channel.
>> Should I program both frequencies into the system and select the Control
>> Channel Only option in FreeSCAN? Will the BCD396XT search for any control
>> channel signal on any of the programmed frequencies and follow the
>> trunked
>> system that way?
>>
>>
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#759 From: MCH <mch@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 5:14 am
Subject: Re: Size of Display Window vs 330T?
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I was thinking the exact same thing...

Of course, the 'new features' of the XT would be printed on the case and
wouldn't work, but for better audio... :-)

Any idea on availability of those, Paul? (XT cases)
I would also like to get a couple spare keypads.

Joe M.

johnstark wrote:
> Hmmm, gives me an idea to buy a spare XT case and put it on the T.....
>
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uniden UPMan" <uniden.upman@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Size of Display Window vs 330T?
>
>
> Actually, there was a tooling change (improved SPL by opening the speaker
> grille) but the display area is the same.
> UPMan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MCH <mch@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:49:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Size of Display Window vs 330T?
>
>
> It should be. It uses the same case (except for some paint differences) .
>
> Joe M.
>
> J. Newell wrote:
>> Does anyone know whether the size of the plastic display window on the
>> BCD396XT is the same as the BR-330T?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John Newell
>>
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