The specification of the P25 versions are published. That option has always been
there ...

Winradio offers PC based decoding of IMBE. Don't know if they support dstar.

On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:06 PM, "Alex" <agcme2002@...> wrote:

> If DVSI ever releases the code for the AMBE codec used in the radios then any
radio like the 396XT could do it in its firmware.
>
> ---
>

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At 07:08 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
>Who else is promoting D-STAR?  Other than Icom I haven't seen any
>manufacturer interested in using it.  Kenwood and Yaesu/Vertex have
>held back (probably a wait-and-see).

A number of ham groups, developers and smaller manufacturers.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

I believe you're right that aren't any radio manufactures even though
Kenwood said they would and had a radio (built by Icom) initially that
they since dropped. There are other manufactures providing a dongle
option for use on a computer.

Personally I don't understand how the FCC permitted this D-Star for
Amateur Radio. My understanding is that is it a licensed technology and
not open and free for anyone to use. This makes it more like an
encrypted/scrambled private transmission as well as a commercial pay to
play option which are counter to the basis of the hobby. I am sure this
is also a big part of its slow growth.

On 6/4/2012 5:08 PM, Alex wrote:
>
> Who else is promoting D-STAR? Other than Icom I haven't seen any
> manufacturer interested in using it. Kenwood and Yaesu/Vertex have
> held back (probably a wait-and-see).
>
> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BCD396XT%40yahoogroups.com>,
> MCH <mch@...> wrote:
> >
> > And technically speaking (AKA picking nits), D-STAR is a JARL format,
> > not Icom. Icom just happens to be the largest (but not only)
> promoter of
> > the format outside Japan.
> >
> > Joe M.
>


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At 07:06 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
>If DVSI ever releases the code for the AMBE codec used in the radios
>then any radio like the 396XT could do it in its firmware.

All the manufacturers have to do is include the right chip in their
scanner to handle the AMBE audio (same as they do for IMBE that P25
uses).  Probably be one that can do both formats, since both are DVSI
products.  The test of the D-STAR spec is open, and can (and has!) be
implemented by third parties.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

Kenwood sells D-STAR radios in Japan. They have not marketed
it in the USA (likely due to their market potential research). Upon
further research, it looks like Kenwood has pulled out of the Japanese
market.

I'm sure it would be a similar decision on Uniden's part (for the USA
market). They have to look at the cost vs sales increase realized by the
availability of the format. From what I understand, they were offered a
license for OpenSky, but decided it was too high cost for the additional
market increase. Other scanner manufacturers likely came to the same
conclusion. Between the small market for Open Sky and the system issues
which threaten its future, it's probably not worth the investment.

While D-STAR has a much wider market base, it is really restricted to
ham radio which is not a big selling point for scanners. Most people
want scanners to monitor public safety agencies, not hams.

Joe M.

Alex wrote:
> Who else is promoting D-STAR?  Other than Icom I haven't seen any manufacturer
interested in using it.  Kenwood and Yaesu/Vertex have held back (probably a
wait-and-see).
>
> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, MCH <mch@...> wrote:
>> And technically speaking (AKA picking nits), D-STAR is a JARL format,
>> not Icom. Icom just happens to be the largest (but not only) promoter of
>> the format outside Japan.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Doug Johnson wrote:
>>> Gidday All,
>>>
>>> Will the UBCD396XT decode the Icom based amateur Dstar ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Doug VK2XLJ
>>>
>>>
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I think the big issue with its slow growth are the benefits vs cost
issues. Most people have analog equipment. Relatively few have D-STAR.
So, in an emergency it will be primarily analog that will be useful.

Also, there is a difference between digital and encrypted. D-STAR is not
encrypted in any form, so it's legal per Part 97. You can purchase a
dongle and monitor the conversations.

Joe M.

David Klippel wrote:
> I believe you're right that aren't any radio manufactures even though
> Kenwood said they would and had a radio (built by Icom) initially that
> they since dropped. There are other manufactures providing a dongle
> option for use on a computer.
>
> Personally I don't understand how the FCC permitted this D-Star for
> Amateur Radio. My understanding is that is it a licensed technology and
> not open and free for anyone to use. This makes it more like an
> encrypted/scrambled private transmission as well as a commercial pay to
> play option which are counter to the basis of the hobby. I am sure this
> is also a big part of its slow growth.
>
> On 6/4/2012 5:08 PM, Alex wrote:
>> Who else is promoting D-STAR? Other than Icom I haven't seen any
>> manufacturer interested in using it. Kenwood and Yaesu/Vertex have
>> held back (probably a wait-and-see).
>>
>> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BCD396XT%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> MCH <mch@...> wrote:
>>> And technically speaking (AKA picking nits), D-STAR is a JARL format,
>>> not Icom. Icom just happens to be the largest (but not only)
>> promoter of
>>> the format outside Japan.
>>>
>>> Joe M.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
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>
>
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I have used the exact antenna you are referring to from scanner master and it
works very good. After I got my new car I didn't want to put the big mag mounts
on it any more and I sure wasn't going retro fit a 2011 Cadillac truck with the
radio from my old car. So I bought the spectrum force mag mount to use with my
hand helds while driving. The magnet on the antenna is super strong, it stayed
on the car while doing 65-70 mph on the hi-way and even stayed on when I forgot
to take it down once when entering a parking garage. I could hear it banging on
every low point of the garage I went through and when I got out it was still
standing and receiving like a champ for a cheap part time mobile antenna that
you can take on and off at will with no damage to your car you cant beat the
spectrum force. Also its frequency coverage is amazing VHF-900MHz it receives
solid. I would definitely recommend it it even did OK on the vhf lo band. I hope
this helps with your decision.

Just my opinion,
Bob


Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Windows® phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: d.marshall88 <davepm88@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:30 PM
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BCD396XT] Mobile Antenna


Looking for a good mobile antenna to use in my van. I mainly listen to OPP and
Metro Police. I do not want to drill holes in the van etc. Just something for
around $50 or so that does a good job. Anyone have any experience with the
scanner master spectrum-force mag mount?



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Technically you are correct D-STAR is open but the codec is not and
requires a license to decode so in function it is essentially
'encrypted/scrambled'. Yes, you can purchase a dongle but it is still
using a license Codec that you paid for. You can't legally reverse
engineer the Codec and listen or transmit. The cost benefit is a big
part of the issue and with just one manufacture using it does not help.
If there were more options and free/open Codec in use it would be much
further along in growth and acceptance.

I feel a similar thing is happening with HD Radio. There are plenty of
broadcasters but unfortunately not many radios with it built in. The car
radio is becoming common to have HD. If you want to listen to HD on the
beach or park where a small portable radio would be used or even in a
home stereo or A/V receiver your options are very limited.

This could go on but as for the original scanning question they need a
license for the Codec it is a small audience for them to add the cost.
Though as a Ham it would great to be able to monitor the D-STAR activity
and maybe become convinced it is worth the cost.

On 6/4/2012 6:32 PM, MCH wrote:
>
> I think the big issue with its slow growth are the benefits vs cost
> issues. Most people have analog equipment. Relatively few have D-STAR.
> So, in an emergency it will be primarily analog that will be useful.
>
> Also, there is a difference between digital and encrypted. D-STAR is not
> encrypted in any form, so it's legal per Part 97. You can purchase a
> dongle and monitor the conversations.
>


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About a year and half ago the club I was part of (before moving to a
different city) invited a rep from Icom to come in and talk about
their radios with the focus primarily on the D-Star radios. While the
technology is impressive, I don't see it ever becoming wide spread in
the hobby.

As Joe has pointed out, in an emergency it will be primarily analog
that is used. Where I live ARES is part of the county's emergency
plan so our communications need to be easily and inexpensively
monitored by numerous agencies from local emergency services to the
Red Cross. Costs of D-Star radios would prevent that.

Dean VA3DBD


At 06:32 PM 6/4/2012, MCH wrote:
>I think the big issue with its slow growth are the benefits vs cost
>issues. Most people have analog equipment. Relatively few have D-STAR.
>So, in an emergency it will be primarily analog that will be useful.

Thanks for the feedback Dave; at least I know it's just not an isolated
incident with the local TriMet system here in Portland, Oregon.  Guess we'll
have to wait and see if any fixes are forthcoming?  Not many systems seem to
use Private Call in this area, even the older Motorola Type 2 systems.

Jeremy





I have the same problem in E Idaho. Uniden scanners don't seem to be able to
track i-calls when Tait radios are involved, although I don't know exactly
why. I have also heard this from other Uniden owners on other P25 Tait radio
systems. GRE scanners seem to track the i-calls OK. Unidens should track
i-calls ok on Motorola P25 systems.

Dave

--- In  <mailto:BCD396XT%40yahoogroups.com> BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com,
"Jeremy" <n7ryy70@...> wrote:
>
> A P25 system is currently being installed in the Portland, Oregon area for
> the local transit agency to replace existing 450 and 800 systems. The
system
> is manufactured by Tait. I have been able to track group calls on the
system
> just fine with my 396XT, however when they switch over to individual calls
I
> am not able to hear them, unless I scan them conventionally with another
> radio. If I park the radio on the control channel I am unable to see any
> activity, unless there is a group call going on as well. I have put the
> individual call wildcard in the scan list, with no change. I have not
> tracked an individual call on any other P25 systems, as we don't have many
> P25 systems in this area in active use yet, so I don't know if the scanner
> will track it on a Motorola or other manufacturers P25 system.
Unfortunately
> it sounds like this system will make alot of use of individual calls.
>
> Another interesting thing to note is that when watching this system with
> Pro96.com software the individual call conversation shows up for about 1/2
> second or so before it disappears, even though the conversation is still
> going on. Is this a bug that can be looked at for a future firmware
upgrade?
> Thanks
>
> Jeremy



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I was wondering if anyone here would care too share there info "scanner setup
option's"  if you don't want too share this information that's fine I do
understand I would like too compare them see how different they are too my setup
options also I see a lot of cop ,fire etc here I don't see much military or
federal listings of frequencies nac codes if your into military federal
frequencies I can be found on yahoo is midnitedarkwolf or darkstaropscenter I
forward too hearing from some of you here

PC board real estate is expensive, microcode space isn't.  Given the component
density already in the 396 I don't think it is quite so easy to cram one more
chip in there.  If Uniden really wanted D-STAR then they'd likely just license
the codec algorithms and code that into the microprocessor just like all the
other digital codecs that are currently processed.

--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" <vk3jed@...> wrote:
>
> At 07:06 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
> >If DVSI ever releases the code for the AMBE codec used in the radios
> >then any radio like the 396XT could do it in its firmware.
>
> All the manufacturers have to do is include the right chip in their
> scanner to handle the AMBE audio (same as they do for IMBE that P25
> uses).  Probably be one that can do both formats, since both are DVSI
> products.  The test of the D-STAR spec is open, and can (and has!) be
> implemented by third parties.
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>

Trying to program, by hand, the Scott AFB (IL) TRS. It is listed as a Motorola
Type II Smartnet but it is also a P25 system.
 
Do I program the system as P25 or as a Motorola system with each talk group
programmed to receive digital only?
 
Also if I program the system (or site) in search mode in stead of scan mode is
there anything tricky with that?
 
I have many trunked systems in my scanner but this one is, for some reason,
giving me fits. Right now the only way I can hear voice traffic is to program
the frequencies as a conventional system. At least that way I do get NAC 94 to
show up on the screen.
 
Simply put I can't get the system to receive/decode any talk groups. I must be
doing something wrong. Again I program everything by hand.
 
Thanks ahead for your help.
 
Jeff
 
 

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It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter the
band plan for the system.
 
Set all channels as digital.

UpMan
UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
emailing me directly


>________________________________
> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>To: bcd396xt <bcd396xt@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:06 AM
>Subject: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
>
>
>
> 
>
>Trying to program, by hand, the Scott AFB (IL) TRS. It is listed as a Motorola
Type II Smartnet but it is also a P25 system.
> 
>Do I program the system as P25 or as a Motorola system with each talk group
programmed to receive digital only?
> 
>Also if I program the system (or site) in search mode in stead of scan mode is
there anything tricky with that?
> 
>I have many trunked systems in my scanner but this one is, for some reason,
giving me fits. Right now the only way I can hear voice traffic is to program
the frequencies as a conventional system. At least that way I do get NAC 94 to
show up on the screen.
> 
>Simply put I can't get the system to receive/decode any talk groups. I must be
doing something wrong. Again I program everything by hand.
> 
>Thanks ahead for your help.
> 
>Jeff
> 
> 
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>

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Thank you. So I got some of it right. Thats good.  Now I have to figure out how
to do the band plan. Wish me luck. I have never done that before.
 
 
 


--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@...> wrote:


From: Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@...>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
To: "BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com" <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 8:47 AM



 



It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter the
band plan for the system.
 
Set all channels as digital.

UpMan
UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
emailing me directly

>________________________________
> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>To: bcd396xt <bcd396xt@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:06 AM
>Subject: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
>
>
>
> 
>
>Trying to program, by hand, the Scott AFB (IL) TRS. It is listed as a Motorola
Type II Smartnet but it is also a P25 system.
> 
>Do I program the system as P25 or as a Motorola system with each talk group
programmed to receive digital only?
> 
>Also if I program the system (or site) in search mode in stead of scan mode is
there anything tricky with that?
> 
>I have many trunked systems in my scanner but this one is, for some reason,
giving me fits. Right now the only way I can hear voice traffic is to program
the frequencies as a conventional system. At least that way I do get NAC 94 to
show up on the screen.
> 
>Simply put I can't get the system to receive/decode any talk groups. I must be
doing something wrong. Again I program everything by hand.
> 
>Thanks ahead for your help.
> 
>Jeff
> 
> 
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>

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What is the correct Band Plan for a system with these frequencies ?

Clark


At 06:47 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:

>It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter
>the band plan for the system.
>½A0
>Set all channels as digital.
>
>UpMan
>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
>emailing me directly
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
> >To: bcd396xt <bcd396xt@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:06 AM
> >Subject: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Trying to program, by hand, the Scott AFB (IL) TRS. It is listed as a
> Motorola Type II Smartnet but it is also a P25 system.
> >½A0
> >Do I program the system as P25 or as a Motorola system with each talk
> group programmed to receive digital only?
> >½A0
> >Also if I program the system (or site) in search mode in stead of scan
> mode is there anything tricky with that?
> >½A0
> >I have many trunked systems in my scanner but this one is, for some
> reason, giving me fits. Right now the only way I can hear voice traffic
> is to program the frequencies as a conventional system. At least that way
> I do get NAC 94 to show up on the screen.
> >½A0
> >Simply put I can't get the system to receive/decode any talk groups. I
> must be doing something wrong. Again I program everything by hand.
> >½A0
> >Thanks ahead for your help.

There is no single band plan for a systgem with those frequencies. They could
all use different band plans.
 
That specific system''s band plan is shown on the RR database page:
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4205

UpMan
UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
emailing me directly


>________________________________
>From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
>To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
>
>
> 
>What is the correct Band Plan for a system with these frequencies ?
>
>Clark
>
>At 06:47 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:
>
>>It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter
>>the band plan for the system.
>>½A0
>>Set all channels as digital.
>>
>>UpMan
>>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
>>emailing me directly
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>> >To: bcd396xt <bcd396xt@yahoogroups.com>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:06 AM
>> >Subject: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Trying to program, by hand, the Scott AFB (IL) TRS. It is listed as a
>> Motorola Type II Smartnet but it is also a P25 system.
>> >½A0
>> >Do I program the system as P25 or as a Motorola system with each talk
>> group programmed to receive digital only?
>> >½A0
>> >Also if I program the system (or site) in search mode in stead of scan
>> mode is there anything tricky with that?
>> >½A0
>> >I have many trunked systems in my scanner but this one is, for some
>> reason, giving me fits. Right now the only way I can hear voice traffic
>> is to program the frequencies as a conventional system. At least that way
>> I do get NAC 94 to show up on the screen.
>> >½A0
>> >Simply put I can't get the system to receive/decode any talk groups. I
>> must be doing something wrong. Again I program everything by hand.
>> >½A0
>> >Thanks ahead for your help.
>
>
>
>
>

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Thanks Paul,
I missed that info. under Custom Frequency Tables.

Clark

At 09:36 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:

>There is no single band plan for a systgem with those frequencies. They
>could all use different band plans.
>½A0
>That specific system''s band plan is shown on the RR database page:
>http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4205
>
>UpMan
>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
>emailing me directly
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
> >To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
> >
> >
> >
> >What is the correct Band Plan for a system with these frequencies ?
> >
> >Clark
> >
> >At 06:47 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >>It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter
> >>the band plan for the system.
> >>½A0
> >>Set all channels as digital.
> >>
> >>UpMan
> >>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
> >>emailing me directly

OK. So I am programming the band plan and the scanner is asking me questions
that the answer does not appear on the Scott AFB page.
 
When I enter "base freq" all goes well but it then asks "input upper/input
lower" what are those?
 
When I enter "offset" it asks for polarity (+ or -) that is not listed either.
How do I know what it is?
 
The scanner does not seem to hold what little info I have in the memory for the
band plan. I am guessing it is because I am not doing it correctly.
 
Again sorry for being a pain, just wanting to get it right.
 
I guess I better go and check the user manual huh?
 
 


--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...> wrote:


From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 11:48 AM



 



Thanks Paul,
I missed that info. under Custom Frequency Tables.

Clark

At 09:36 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:

>There is no single band plan for a systgem with those frequencies. They
>could all use different band plans.
>½A0
>That specific system''s band plan is shown on the RR database page:
>http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4205
>
>UpMan
>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
>emailing me directly
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
> >To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
> >
> >
> >
> >What is the correct Band Plan for a system with these frequencies ?
> >
> >Clark
> >
> >At 06:47 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >>It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter
> >>the band plan for the system.
> >>½A0
> >>Set all channels as digital.
> >>
> >>UpMan
> >>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
> >>emailing me directly








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http://info.uniden.com/twiki/pub/publish/calculatingupperbasefrequencies.html

Polarity is going to be +.




________________________________
From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 6, 2012 12:35:50 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question

 
OK. So I am programming the band plan and the scanner is asking me questions
that the answer does not appear on the Scott AFB page.
 
When I enter "base freq" all goes well but it then asks "input upper/input
lower" what are those?
 
When I enter "offset" it asks for polarity (+ or -) that is not listed either.
How do I know what it is?
 
The scanner does not seem to hold what little info I have in the memory for the
band plan. I am guessing it is because I am not doing it correctly.

 
Again sorry for being a pain, just wanting to get it right.
 
I guess I better go and check the user manual huh?
 
 

--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...> wrote:

From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 11:48 AM

 

Thanks Paul,
I missed that info. under Custom Frequency Tables.

Clark

At 09:36 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:

>There is no single band plan for a systgem with those frequencies. They
>could all use different band plans.
>½A0
>That specific system''s band plan is shown on the RR database page:
>http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4205
>
>UpMan
>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
>emailing me directly
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
> >To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
> >
> >
> >
> >What is the correct Band Plan for a system with these frequencies ?
> >
> >Clark
> >
> >At 06:47 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >>It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter
> >>the band plan for the system.
> >>½A0
> >>Set all channels as digital.
> >>
> >>UpMan
> >>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
> >>emailing me directly

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Thanks.


--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Paul Opitz <pmanu44@...> wrote:


From: Paul Opitz <pmanu44@...>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 1:03 PM



 



http://info.uniden.com/twiki/pub/publish/calculatingupperbasefrequencies.html

Polarity is going to be +.

________________________________
From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 6, 2012 12:35:50 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question

 
OK. So I am programming the band plan and the scanner is asking me questions
that the answer does not appear on the Scott AFB page.
 
When I enter "base freq" all goes well but it then asks "input upper/input
lower" what are those?
 
When I enter "offset" it asks for polarity (+ or -) that is not listed either.
How do I know what it is?
 
The scanner does not seem to hold what little info I have in the memory for the
band plan. I am guessing it is because I am not doing it correctly.

 
Again sorry for being a pain, just wanting to get it right.
 
I guess I better go and check the user manual huh?
 
 

--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...> wrote:

From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 11:48 AM

 

Thanks Paul,
I missed that info. under Custom Frequency Tables.

Clark

At 09:36 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:

>There is no single band plan for a systgem with those frequencies. They
>could all use different band plans.
>½A0
>That specific system''s band plan is shown on the RR database page:
>http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4205
>
>UpMan
>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
>emailing me directly
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Clark Rennie <c.rennie1@...>
> >To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Another dumb question
> >
> >
> >
> >What is the correct Band Plan for a system with these frequencies ?
> >
> >Clark
> >
> >At 06:47 AM 6/6/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >>It should be programmed as a Motorola VHF system (not P25). You must enter
> >>the band plan for the system.
> >>½A0
> >>Set all channels as digital.
> >>
> >>UpMan
> >>UpMan FAQ: http://info.uniden.com/UnidenMan4/UpMan -- Please read before
> >>emailing me directly

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What software do owners of this scanner prefer to use?

I have found FreeScan, ProScan, ARCxt Basic, Arcxt Pro, bcTool, and Scancat lite
Plus as programs that will work with this scanner.

I have the newest version of Scancat Lite Plus for use on my AOR 8000 analog
scanner. I don't think it looks or works any better then it did about 10 years
ago. I think it needs a new face lift. It is still back in the Windows 95 era.

I don't have this scanner, but it is on my possible list to buy. With the
complexity of these newer digital trunk tracking scanners, I think that the
software is an important part of using these scanners to there full potential.
Any feedback, pros or con would be appreciated.

I personally use ArcXT Basic.  If you are comfortable working with
Spreadsheets this is the easiest one and has the most flexible editing
capabilities IMO.  I have tried Freescan and it is pretty good and is
free. Both of these are easy to import from Radio reference with a paid
membership. Last I checked Freescan and ArcXT Basic don't play well on
the same computer so try with each one seperately (this could have changed).

PS I use ARC XT on Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit with no issues.

I personally use ArcXT Basic.  If you are comfortable working with
Spreadsheets this is the easiest one and has the most flexible editing
capabilities IMO.  I have tried Freescan and it is pretty good and is
free. Both of these are easy to import from Radio reference with a paid
membership. Last I checked Freescan and ArcXT Basic don't play well on
the same computer so try with each one seperately (this could have changed).

PS I use ARC XT on Win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit with no issues.

I've downloaded and used both freescan and ARCxt Pro. I prefer ARCxt Pro,
although it doesn't read well from Windows 7 to the scanner. I installed
"XP Mode" in my windows 7, installed the software there and that resolved
all issues.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, mrhermit <mrhermit@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> What software do owners of this scanner prefer to use?
>
> I have found FreeScan, ProScan, ARCxt Basic, Arcxt Pro, bcTool, and
> Scancat lite Plus as programs that will work with this scanner.
>
> I have the newest version of Scancat Lite Plus for use on my AOR 8000
> analog scanner. I don't think it looks or works any better then it did
> about 10 years ago. I think it needs a new face lift. It is still back in
> the Windows 95 era.
>
> I don't have this scanner, but it is on my possible list to buy. With the
> complexity of these newer digital trunk tracking scanners, I think that the
> software is an important part of using these scanners to there full
> potential. Any feedback, pros or con would be appreciated.
>
>
>



--

*Shawn Kurschner*

*(MCP, CSS, HDA, MCDST, MCTS)*

*Manitowoc, WI USA
*


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At 05:23 AM 6/7/2012, you wrote:
>What software do owners of this scanner prefer to use?
>
>I have found FreeScan, ProScan, ARCxt Basic, Arcxt Pro, bcTool, and
>Scancat lite Plus as programs that will work with this scanner.

I've been using Freescan.  No complaints, it does the job for me.  I
don't need to frequently change the frequencies, though one system
will be migrating to P25 sometime in the future.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

Forward Update Notice...


-----Original Message-----
From: arcsoftware
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:47
To: arc396@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [arc396] ARC XT PRO 1.8 with Radioreference search option

I have released ARC XT PRO V1.8.

I have added a new cool RadioReference search feature. From Virtual control you
can now do a live RR
database search by double clicking a frequency in log grid.
This opens a new Windows where you can preset 3 different States and search
those 3 States.
The search does require a premium subscription.
This search option is now also available in the Tools menu (ARC XT Basic & Pro)

Gommert
www.butelsoftware.com

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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arc396/>

I have never programed my 396 bu computer, tell me step by step instructions on
what to do, from hooking it up with cable to the right software to download, and
what position my screen should be in on scanner to start the download process,
you can send this to me at sdoss19@..., so not to tie up the site here,
Thanks, sidney

--- On Thu, 6/14/12, Brian <mtnbiker2005ipn@...> wrote:

From: Brian <mtnbiker2005ipn@...>
Subject: [BCD396XT] FW: [arc396] ARC XT PRO 1.8 with Radioreference search
option
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 2:49 PM
















 









       Forward Update Notice...



-----Original Message-----

From: arcsoftware

Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:47

To: arc396@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [arc396] ARC XT PRO 1.8 with Radioreference search option



I have released ARC XT PRO V1.8.



I have added a new cool RadioReference search feature. From Virtual control you
can now do a live RR

database search by double clicking a frequency in log grid.

This opens a new Windows where you can preset 3 different States and search
those 3 States.

The search does require a premium subscription.

This search option is now also available in the Tools menu (ARC XT Basic & Pro)



Gommert

www.butelsoftware.com



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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arc396/>



























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I'm not trying to be rude, but before you ask for information,  how about READ
THE MANUAL!



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone



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Gidday Don,

Unfortunately that is a symptom of our instant society today.
People want everything to work now, and if it doesn't they want to be spoon fed
or done for them.

Technical and complex things take time to master, which require reading and
research.

Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
From: Don.Curtis@...
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:40:20 -0600
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] FW: [arc396] ARC XT PRO 1.8 with Radioreference search
option


























       I'm not trying to be rude, but before you ask for information,  how about
READ THE MANUAL!



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone



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