Just for WX you will never see enough demand. There has been some demand
for a second receiver which would cover WX as well as the other aspects
I mentioned, but I still don't think the demand would be high enough to
recover the R&D costs. If you're going to add the weather receiver, it
would be dumb to not to the extra mile for the fully functional receiver.

As for "significantly", about $200-300 depending on whether the decoding
circuits can be reused for the second receiver. I don't know of many
people who would want to pay $700 to $800 for a portable scanner just to
get the advantages. Sure, several people would, but I doubt enough to
recover the costs.

There is also the aspect that it would increase the size of the unit
(unless the size of the components has offset that in the last few years
of development).

Joe M.

Steve Wilson wrote:
> Agreed, but "significantly" is a subjective term and may be worth the expense
for those who need it or prefer it.  It would be interesting to compare the cost
vs. demand for a fully functional duplicate receiver vs. just a 2nd receiver for
WX.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, MCH <mch@...> wrote:
>> A second receiver would significantly add to the price of the unit.
>>
>> But, it would allow for uninterrupted checking of the weather or Close
>> Call, trunked priority (any TG on any system type), better priority on
>> conventional, and other features.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Steve Wilson wrote:
>>> Had done a Google search and found a thread on radioreference.  Turned out
to be the WX.  I knew to check the Priority Alert, but didn't think of the WX. 
It's sooooo much more pleasant to listen without dropouts.
>>>
>>> Someone on the radioreference thread asked about the feasibility for a 2nd
receiver for alerts.  You certainly have my vote!  It was allow us to have the
alerts without compromising the audio quality due to dropouts.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link to common questions.  I will check it out.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steve
>>>
>>> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@> wrote:
>>>> See the very first "Common Question" here:
>>>>
http://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/view/UnidenMan4/ScannerManuals#Common_Questions
>>>>
>>>> Â
>>>> UPMan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Steve Wilson <steve_wilson@>
>>>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 10:53 AM
>>>>> Subject: [BCD396XT] Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Â
>>>>> I searched this forum and saw posts regarding dropouts on Digital systems,
but what about Analog?  I'm in the Bay Area and am hearing dropouts on ALCO
trunk and CHP conventional.  It's really annoying.  Is there a setting to
address this or is it an issue with the scanner?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
03:33:00
>

Why carry more than you need to? I have enough to carry between two
scanners, sometimes amateur portable, camera and lenses plus camera bag.
Last thing I wants another reciever when I have two very capable radios with
weather alert.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Lance" <milcom_chaser@...>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:22 PM
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional

> Why not get yourself a dedicated WX Alert Radio...
>
> Or, buy yourself a 346XT...
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2011, at 2:18 PM, MCH wrote:
>
>> A second receiver would significantly add to the price of the unit.
>>
>> But, it would allow for uninterrupted checking of the weather or Close
>> Call, trunked priority (any TG on any system type), better priority on
>> conventional, and other features.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Steve Wilson wrote:
>> > Had done a Google search and found a thread on radioreference. Turned
>> > out to be the WX. I knew to check the Priority Alert, but didn't think
>> > of the WX. It's sooooo much more pleasant to listen without dropouts.
>> >
>> > Someone on the radioreference thread asked about the feasibility for a
>> > 2nd receiver for alerts. You certainly have my vote! It was allow us to
>> > have the alerts without compromising the audio quality due to dropouts.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the link to common questions. I will check it out.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Steve
>> >
>> > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Uniden UPMan <uniden.upman@...> wrote:
>> >> See the very first "Common Question" here:
>> >>
http://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/view/UnidenMan4/ScannerManuals#Common_Questions
>> >>
>> >> Â
>> >> UPMan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> From: Steve Wilson <steve_wilson@...>
>> >>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> >>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 10:53 AM
>> >>> Subject: [BCD396XT] Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Â
>> >>> I searched this forum and saw posts regarding dropouts on Digital
>> >>> systems, but what about Analog? I'm in the Bay Area and am hearing
>> >>> dropouts on ALCO trunk and CHP conventional. It's really annoying. Is
>> >>> there a setting to address this or is it an issue with the scanner?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks, Steve
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

At 04:11 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
>Just for WX you will never see enough demand. There has been some demand
>for a second receiver which would cover WX as well as the other aspects
>I mentioned, but I still don't think the demand would be high enough to
>recover the R&D costs. If you're going to add the weather receiver, it
>would be dumb to not to the extra mile for the fully functional receiver.

If it was just for WX, then it's wasted outside the US (as the
existing WX features already are for me).  However, if the second Rx
can be assigned to other purposes as well (CloseCall, priority watch,
etc), then it would be a really useful asset.


>As for "significantly", about $200-300 depending on whether the decoding
>circuits can be reused for the second receiver. I don't know of many
>people who would want to pay $700 to $800 for a portable scanner just to
>get the advantages. Sure, several people would, but I doubt enough to
>recover the costs.

The amateur gear with two receivers doesn't seem to have a $200
premium, probably nearer $100.  However, it is worth noting that in
the Icom D-STAR amateur radios (which, like P25, require a vocoder
chip from DVSI), only one of the receivers is able to decode digital
transmissions.  That might be a compromise required to keep the cost
down.  Right now, a second, analog only Rx wouldn't be a big handicap
(I don't have any P25 systems in my scanner yet - but I will within a
couple of years when our fire service goes digital), but it might be
limiting in the future.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

Something to keep in mind is that some ham rigs don't really have dual
receivers, but simply dual VFOs.
Adding a second VFO is a matter of firmware while a second receiver requires
duplicate hardware.

That said, I thought Canada was switching over to the same alert system (and
same frequencies) that the USA uses.

Joe M.

  On Sat 07/05/11  5:29 PM , "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" vk3jed@... sent:
> At 04:11 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
> >Just for WX you will never see enough demand.
> There has been some demand>for a second receiver which would cover WX as
> well as the other aspects>I mentioned, but I still don't think the demand
> would be high enough to>recover the R&D costs. If you're going to add
> the weather receiver, it>would be dumb to not to the extra mile for the
> fully functional receiver.
> If it was just for WX, then it's wasted outside the US (as the
> existing WX features already are for me).  However, if the second Rx
> can be assigned to other purposes as well (CloseCall, priority watch,
> etc), then it would be a really useful asset.
>
>
> >As for "significantly", about $200-300
> depending on whether the decoding>circuits can be reused for the second
receiver. I
> don't know of many>people who would want to pay $700 to $800 for a
> portable scanner just to>get the advantages. Sure, several people would,
> but I doubt enough to>recover the costs.
>
> The amateur gear with two receivers doesn't seem to have a $200
> premium, probably nearer $100.  However, it is worth noting that in
> the Icom D-STAR amateur radios (which, like P25, require a vocoder
> chip from DVSI), only one of the receivers is able to decode digital
> transmissions.  That might be a compromise required to keep the cost
> down.  Right now, a second, analog only Rx wouldn't be a big handicap
> (I don't have any P25 systems in my scanner yet - but I will within a
> couple of years when our fire service goes digital), but it might be
> limiting in the future.
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>  To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/
>  Your email settings:
> Individual Email | Traditional
>
>  To change settings online go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/join(Yahoo! ID required)
>
>  To change settings via email:
> BCD396XT-digest@yahoogroups.com BCD396XT-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> BCD396XT-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Ok, so a 386XT with dual VFO much like the Yupiteru MVT-7100 series.

That would be very useful.  Could toggle between a channel within a group or the
current frequency
set in the VFO.

Wonder if that could really be accomplished in firmware...




On May 7, 2011, at 2:54 PM, mch@... wrote:

> Something to keep in mind is that some ham rigs don't really have dual
receivers, but simply dual VFOs.
> Adding a second VFO is a matter of firmware while a second receiver requires
duplicate hardware.
>
> That said, I thought Canada was switching over to the same alert system (and
same frequencies) that the USA uses.
>
> Joe M.
>
> On Sat 07/05/11 5:29 PM , "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" vk3jed@... sent:
> > At 04:11 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
> > >Just for WX you will never see enough demand.
> > There has been some demand>for a second receiver which would cover WX as
> > well as the other aspects>I mentioned, but I still don't think the demand
> > would be high enough to>recover the R&D costs. If you're going to add
> > the weather receiver, it>would be dumb to not to the extra mile for the
> > fully functional receiver.
> > If it was just for WX, then it's wasted outside the US (as the
> > existing WX features already are for me). However, if the second Rx
> > can be assigned to other purposes as well (CloseCall, priority watch,
> > etc), then it would be a really useful asset.
> >
> >
> > >As for "significantly", about $200-300
> > depending on whether the decoding>circuits can be reused for the second
receiver. I
> > don't know of many>people who would want to pay $700 to $800 for a
> > portable scanner just to>get the advantages. Sure, several people would,
> > but I doubt enough to>recover the costs.
> >
> > The amateur gear with two receivers doesn't seem to have a $200
> > premium, probably nearer $100. However, it is worth noting that in
> > the Icom D-STAR amateur radios (which, like P25, require a vocoder
> > chip from DVSI), only one of the receivers is able to decode digital
> > transmissions. That might be a compromise required to keep the cost
> > down. Right now, a second, analog only Rx wouldn't be a big handicap
> > (I don't have any P25 systems in my scanner yet - but I will within a
> > couple of years when our fire service goes digital), but it might be
> > limiting in the future.
> >
> > 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> > http://vkradio.com
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/
> > Your email settings:
> > Individual Email | Traditional
> >
> > To change settings online go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/join(Yahoo! ID required)
> >
> > To change settings via email:
> > BCD396XT-digest@yahoogroups.com BCD396XT-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > BCD396XT-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

At 07:54 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
>Something to keep in mind is that some ham rigs don't really have
>dual receivers, but simply dual VFOs.
>Adding a second VFO is a matter of firmware while a second receiver
>requires duplicate hardware.

But I'm able to simultaneously listen to two separate frequencies (in
the same or a different band).  Example:  Icom IC-91AD has this
ability, and its two receivers have different capabilities (only one
can do digital, only the other can do wideband FM).  Sounds like two
receivers to me.


>That said, I thought Canada was switching over to the same alert
>system (and same frequencies) that the USA uses.

I'm in Australia, where a US style weather alert system is never
going to happen. :)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

It definitely could be done in firmware. The scanner has one VFO. Adding a
second one would only require another channel exactly like the one for the first
VFO, and a way to select it. You could simply have the keypad active to select
10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode.  I don't recall the Yupi all that well, but I
know the recent AOR offerings have two VFOs.

Joe M.

  On Sat 07/05/11  5:59 PM , Lance milcom_chaser@... sent:
> Ok, so a 386XT with dual VFO much like the Yupiteru MVT-7100 series.
>
> That would be very useful.  Could toggle between a channel within a group
> or the current frequencyset in the VFO.
>
> Wonder if that could really be accomplished in firmware...
>
>
>
>
> On May 7, 2011, at 2:54 PM, mch@...
> wrote:
> > Something to keep in mind is that some ham rigs
> don't really have dual receivers, but simply dual VFOs.> Adding a second VFO
is a matter of firmware
> while a second receiver requires duplicate hardware.>
> > That said, I thought Canada was switching over
> to the same alert system (and same frequencies) that the USA
> uses.>
> > Joe M.
> >
> > On Sat 07/05/11 5:29 PM , "Tony Langdon,
> VK3JED" vk3jed@vkr
> adio.com sent:> > At 04:11 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
> > > >Just for WX you will never see enough
> demand.> > There has been some demand>for a second
> receiver which would cover WX as> > well as the other aspects>I mentioned,
> but I still don't think the demand> > would be high enough to>recover the
> R&D costs. If you're going to add> > the weather receiver, it>would be dumb
> to not to the extra mile for the> > fully functional receiver.
> > > If it was just for WX, then it's wasted
> outside the US (as the > > existing WX features already are for me).
> However, if the second Rx > > can be assigned to other purposes as well
> (CloseCall, priority watch, > > etc), then it would be a really useful
> asset.> >
> > >
> > > >As for "significantly", about
> $200-300> > depending on whether the
> decoding>circuits can be reused for the second receiver. I> > don't know of
many>people who would want
> to pay $700 to $800 for a> > portable scanner just to>get the
> advantages. Sure, several people would,> > but I doubt enough to>recover the
> costs.> >
> > > The amateur gear with two receivers doesn't
> seem to have a $200 > > premium, probably nearer $100. However, it
> is worth noting that in > > the Icom D-STAR amateur radios (which, like
> P25, require a vocoder > > chip from DVSI), only one of the receivers
> is able to decode digital > > transmissions. That might be a compromise
> required to keep the cost > > down. Right now, a second, analog only Rx
> wouldn't be a big handicap > > (I don't have any P25 systems in my scanner
> yet - but I will within a > > couple of years when our fire service goes
> digital), but it might be > > limiting in the future.
> > >
> > > 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> > > http://vkradio.com> >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------> >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > To visit your group on the web, go
> to:> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/> > Your email settings:
> > > Individual Email | Traditional
> > >
> > > To change settings online go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/join(Yahoo!
> ID required)> >
> > > To change settings via email:
> > > BCD396XT-digest@yahoogroups.com BCD396XT-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com> >
To unsubscribe from this group, send an
> email to:> > BCD396XT-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups
is subject
> to:> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>  To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/
>  Your email settings:
> Individual Email | Traditional
>
>  To change settings online go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/join(Yahoo! ID required)
>
>  To change settings via email:
> BCD396XT-digest@yahoogroups.com BCD396XT-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> BCD396XT-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

If you can hear two conversations at the same time, it has to have dual
receivers.

My point was not specific to the 91, but about ham rigs in general. Some of them
have only dual VFOs which can only monitor one frequency at a time.

Joe M.


  On Sat 07/05/11  6:01 PM , "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" vk3jed@... sent:
> At 07:54 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
> >Something to keep in mind is that some ham rigs
> don't really have >dual receivers, but simply dual VFOs.
> >Adding a second VFO is a matter of firmware while
> a second receiver >requires duplicate hardware.
>
> But I'm able to simultaneously listen to two separate frequencies (in
> the same or a different band).  Example:  Icom IC-91AD has this
> ability, and its two receivers have different capabilities (only one
> can do digital, only the other can do wideband FM).  Sounds like two
> receivers to me.
>
>
> >That said, I thought Canada was switching over to
> the same alert >system (and same frequencies) that the USA
> uses.
> I'm in Australia, where a US style weather alert system is never
> going to happen. :)
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>  To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/
>  Your email settings:
> Individual Email | Traditional
>
>  To change settings online go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCD396XT/join(Yahoo! ID required)
>
>  To change settings via email:
> BCD396XT-digest@yahoogroups.com BCD396XT-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> BCD396XT-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the original
poster stated was found and corrected
by an option which was overlooked ?

Clark



At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:


>It definitely could be done in firmware. The scanner has one VFO. Adding a
>second one would only require another channel exactly like the one for the
>first VFO, and a way to select it. You could simply have the keypad active
>to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode.  I don't recall the Yupi all
>that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings have two VFOs.
>
>Joe M.
>
>  On Sat 07/05/11  5:59 PM , Lance milcom_chaser@... sent:
> > Ok, so a 386XT with dual VFO much like the Yupiteru MVT-7100 series.
> >
> > That would be very useful.  Could toggle between a channel within a group
> > or the current frequencyset in the VFO.
> >
> > Wonder if that could really be accomplished in firmware...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 7, 2011, at 2:54 PM, mch@...
> > wrote:
> > > Something to keep in mind is that some ham rigs
> > don't really have dual receivers, but simply dual VFOs.> Adding a
> second VFO is a matter of firmware
> > while a second receiver requires duplicate hardware.>
> > > That said, I thought Canada was switching over
> > to the same alert system (and same frequencies) that the USA
> > uses.>
> > > Joe M.
> > >
> > > On Sat 07/05/11 5:29 PM , "Tony Langdon,
> > VK3JED" vk3jed@vkr
> > adio.com sent:> > At 04:11 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
> > > > >Just for WX you will never see enough
> > demand.> > There has been some demand>for a second
> > receiver which would cover WX as> > well as the other aspects>I mentioned,
> > but I still don't think the demand> > would be high enough to>recover the
> > R&D costs. If you're going to add> > the weather receiver, it>would be dumb
> > to not to the extra mile for the> > fully functional receiver.
> > > > If it was just for WX, then it's wasted
> > outside the US (as the > > existing WX features already are for me).
> > However, if the second Rx > > can be assigned to other purposes as well
> > (CloseCall, priority watch, > > etc), then it would be a really useful
> > asset.> >
> > > >
> > > > >As for "significantly", about
> > $200-300> > depending on whether the
> > decoding>circuits can be reused for the second receiver. I> > don't
> know of many>people who would want
> > to pay $700 to $800 for a> > portable scanner just to>get the
> > advantages. Sure, several people would,> > but I doubt enough
> to>recover the
> > costs.> >
> > > > The amateur gear with two receivers doesn't
> > seem to have a $200 > > premium, probably nearer $100. However, it
> > is worth noting that in > > the Icom D-STAR amateur radios (which, like
> > P25, require a vocoder > > chip from DVSI), only one of the receivers
> > is able to decode digital > > transmissions. That might be a compromise
> > required to keep the cost > > down. Right now, a second, analog only Rx
> > wouldn't be a big handicap > > (I don't have any P25 systems in my scanner
> > yet - but I will within a > > couple of years when our fire service goes
> > digital), but it might be > > limiting in the future.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> > > > http://vkradio.com> >

It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.

If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary function.

This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or channel
priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally, more
features such as true priority among any system type could be added.

Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled whenever
a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.

Joe M.


  On Sat 07/05/11  7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
> original poster stated was found and corrected
> by an option which was overlooked ?
>
> Clark
>
>
>
> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>
>
> >It definitely could be done in firmware. The
> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another channel
> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode.  I
> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
> have two VFOs.>
> >Joe M.

Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is better
than the competitor.

--- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:


From: mch@... <mch@...>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM


 



It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.

If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary function.

This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or channel
priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally, more
features such as true priority among any system type could be added.

Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled whenever
a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.

Joe M.

On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
> original poster stated was found and corrected
> by an option which was overlooked ?
>
> Clark
>
>
>
> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>
>
> >It definitely could be done in firmware. The
> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another channel
> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode. I
> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
> have two VFOs.>
> >Joe M.








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

At 09:33 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
>If you can hear two conversations at the same time, it has to have
>dual receivers.

That's exactly what I was referring to.  The 91 is one of several
examples of dual receivers, which can monitor two different
frequencies simultaneously (though when both fire up, it can be
tricky picking the tangle of audio apart! :) ).


>My point was not specific to the 91, but about ham rigs in general.
>Some of them
>have only dual VFOs which can only monitor one frequency at a time.

True, but I was pointing some do have dual receivers and it doesn't
seem to be a major price premium, unless you want digital capability
on both receivers.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

DOH! VK3.... I read VE3 (Canada). :-\

Joe M.

Tony Langdon, VK3JED wrote:
> At 07:54 AM 5/8/2011, you wrote:
>> That said, I thought Canada was switching over to the same alert
>> system (and same frequencies) that the USA uses.
>
> I'm in Australia, where a US style weather alert system is never
> going to happen. :)
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com

In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the BC370CRS is the best All Hazards radio on
the market. In addition to full SAME support (including paying attention to the
end-of-message signal), it will alert to All Hazards in areas without NOAA
coverage, but with alerts going out on AM or FM Broadcast stations.

It also supports external trigger (for hearing or sight impaired alerting).
Plus, is a 300-channel conventional scanner with AM/FM broadcast coverage and
Atomic Clock.

Only one receiver, though.

Which competitor has a better one?
 
UPMan

From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>
>
> 
>Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is better
than the competitor.
>
>--- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:
>
>From: mch@... <mch@...>
>Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM
>
> 
>
>It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.
>
>If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
>on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary function.
>
>This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or channel
>priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally, more
>features such as true priority among any system type could be added.
>
>Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled whenever
>a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.
>
>Joe M.
>
>On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
>> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
>> original poster stated was found and corrected
>> by an option which was overlooked ?
>>
>> Clark
>>
>>
>>
>> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> >It definitely could be done in firmware. The
>> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another channel
>> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
>> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode. I
>> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
>> have two VFOs.>
>> >Joe M.
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is the output active only during the alert message, or only during the
alert duration, or some other timeframe?

Joe M.

Uniden UPMan wrote:
>
> In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the BC370CRS is the best All Hazards radio
on the market. In addition to full SAME support (including paying attention to
the end-of-message signal), it will alert to All Hazards in areas without NOAA
coverage, but with alerts going out on AM or FM Broadcast stations.
>
> It also supports external trigger (for hearing or sight impaired alerting).
Plus, is a 300-channel conventional scanner with AM/FM broadcast coverage and
Atomic Clock.
>
> Only one receiver, though.
>
> Which competitor has a better one?
>
> UPMan
>
> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is
better than the competitor.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:
>>
>> From: mch@... <mch@...>
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.
>>
>> If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
>> on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary function.
>>
>> This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or
channel
>> priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally,
more
>> features such as true priority among any system type could be added.
>>
>> Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled whenever
>> a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
>>> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
>>> original poster stated was found and corrected
>>> by an option which was overlooked ?
>>>
>>> Clark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It definitely could be done in firmware. The
>>> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another channel
>>> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
>>> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode. I
>>> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
>>> have two VFOs.>
>>>> Joe M.
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
03:33:00
>

When in SAME standby, the audio path will open when a matching SAME is received
and will close when the end-of-message is received.




________________________________
From: MCH <mch@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional

 
Is the output active only during the alert message, or only during the
alert duration, or some other timeframe?

Joe M.

Uniden UPMan wrote:
>
> In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the BC370CRS is the best All Hazards radio
>on the market. In addition to full SAME support (including paying attention to
>the end-of-message signal), it will alert to All Hazards in areas without NOAA
>coverage, but with alerts going out on AM or FM Broadcast stations.
>
> It also supports external trigger (for hearing or sight impaired alerting).
>Plus, is a 300-channel conventional scanner with AM/FM broadcast coverage and
>Atomic Clock.
>
> Only one receiver, though.
>
> Which competitor has a better one?
>
> UPMan
>
> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is
better
>>than the competitor.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:
>>
>> From: mch@... <mch@...>
>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.
>>
>> If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
>> on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary function.
>>
>> This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or
>channel
>> priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally,
more
>> features such as true priority among any system type could be added.
>>
>> Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled whenever
>> a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
>>> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
>>> original poster stated was found and corrected
>>> by an option which was overlooked ?
>>>
>>> Clark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It definitely could be done in firmware. The
>>> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another channel
>>> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
>>> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode. I
>>> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
>>> have two VFOs.>
>>>> Joe M.
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
>03:33:00
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. I'm talking about the external trigger.

Joe M.

Paul Opitz wrote:
> When in SAME standby, the audio path will open when a matching SAME is
received
> and will close when the end-of-message is received.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MCH <mch@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>
>
> Is the output active only during the alert message, or only during the
> alert duration, or some other timeframe?
>
> Joe M.
>
> Uniden UPMan wrote:
>> In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the BC370CRS is the best All Hazards radio
>> on the market. In addition to full SAME support (including paying attention
to
>> the end-of-message signal), it will alert to All Hazards in areas without
NOAA
>> coverage, but with alerts going out on AM or FM Broadcast stations.
>>
>> It also supports external trigger (for hearing or sight impaired alerting).
>> Plus, is a 300-channel conventional scanner with AM/FM broadcast coverage and
>> Atomic Clock.
>>
>> Only one receiver, though.
>>
>> Which competitor has a better one?
>>
>> UPMan
>>
>> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is
better
>>> than the competitor.
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: mch@... <mch@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.
>>>
>>> If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
>>> on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary
function.
>>>
>>> This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or
>> channel
>>> priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally,
> more
>>> features such as true priority among any system type could be added.
>>>
>>> Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled
whenever
>>> a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.
>>>
>>> Joe M.
>>>
>>> On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
>>>> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
>>>> original poster stated was found and corrected
>>>> by an option which was overlooked ?
>>>>
>>>> Clark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It definitely could be done in firmware. The
>>>> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another
channel
>>>> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
>>>> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode.
I
>>>> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
>>>> have two VFOs.>
>>>>> Joe M.
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
>> 03:33:00
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
03:33:00
>

IIRC it provides a switch closure at the beginning of an alert (momentary).




________________________________
From: MCH <mch@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 4:10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional

 
I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. I'm talking about the external trigger.

Joe M.

Paul Opitz wrote:
> When in SAME standby, the audio path will open when a matching SAME is
received
>
> and will close when the end-of-message is received.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MCH <mch@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>
>
> Is the output active only during the alert message, or only during the
> alert duration, or some other timeframe?
>
> Joe M.
>
> Uniden UPMan wrote:
>> In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the BC370CRS is the best All Hazards radio

>> on the market. In addition to full SAME support (including paying attention
to
>
>> the end-of-message signal), it will alert to All Hazards in areas without
NOAA
>
>> coverage, but with alerts going out on AM or FM Broadcast stations.
>>
>> It also supports external trigger (for hearing or sight impaired alerting).
>> Plus, is a 300-channel conventional scanner with AM/FM broadcast coverage and

>> Atomic Clock.
>>
>> Only one receiver, though.
>>
>> Which competitor has a better one?
>>
>> UPMan
>>
>> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is
better
>>>
>>> than the competitor.
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: mch@... <mch@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.
>>>
>>> If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
>>> on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary
function.
>>>
>>> This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or
>> channel
>>> priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally,
> more
>>> features such as true priority among any system type could be added.
>>>
>>> Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled
whenever
>>> a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.
>>>
>>> Joe M.
>>>
>>> On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
>>>> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
>>>> original poster stated was found and corrected
>>>> by an option which was overlooked ?
>>>>
>>>> Clark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It definitely could be done in firmware. The
>>>> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another
channel
>>>> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
>>>> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode.
I
>>>> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
>>>> have two VFOs.>
>>>>> Joe M.
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
>> 03:33:00
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
>03:33:00
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Correction, it will provide a voltage out (9V) at the beginning of the alert.




________________________________
From: Paul Opitz <pmanu44@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 4:19:41 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional

 
IIRC it provides a switch closure at the beginning of an alert (momentary).

________________________________
From: MCH <mch@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 4:10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional

 
I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. I'm talking about the external trigger.

Joe M.

Paul Opitz wrote:
> When in SAME standby, the audio path will open when a matching SAME is
received
>
>
> and will close when the end-of-message is received.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MCH <mch@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>
>
> Is the output active only during the alert message, or only during the
> alert duration, or some other timeframe?
>
> Joe M.
>
> Uniden UPMan wrote:
>> In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the BC370CRS is the best All Hazards radio


>> on the market. In addition to full SAME support (including paying attention
to
>
>
>> the end-of-message signal), it will alert to All Hazards in areas without
NOAA
>
>
>> coverage, but with alerts going out on AM or FM Broadcast stations.
>>
>> It also supports external trigger (for hearing or sight impaired alerting).
>> Plus, is a 300-channel conventional scanner with AM/FM broadcast coverage and


>> Atomic Clock.
>>
>> Only one receiver, though.
>>
>> Which competitor has a better one?
>>
>> UPMan
>>
>> From: Jeffry Rehm <scanman1958@...>
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I guess Uniden isn't going to make a WX/All Hazzards radio that is
better
>>>
>>>
>>> than the competitor.
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, mch@... <mch@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: mch@... <mch@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: Audio dropouts for trunk and conventional
>>> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was not 'corrected' - it was 'disabled'.
>>>
>>> If you have a second receiver, you don't have to put up with any dropouts
>>> on the received signal while the receiver switches to the secondary
function.
>>>
>>> This means WX Priority (the function that was disabled), Close Call, or
>> channel
>>> priority could be used with no gaps in the received signal. Additionally,
> more
>>> features such as true priority among any system type could be added.
>>>
>>> Close Call DND does help on the XT with the gaps, but CC is disabled
whenever
>>> a signal is received. Hence, it's not a true solution.
>>>
>>> Joe M.
>>>
>>> On Sat 07/05/11 7:49 PM , Clark Rennie c.rennie1@... sent:
>>>> What does any of this have to do with "Audio dropouts" which the
>>>> original poster stated was found and corrected
>>>> by an option which was overlooked ?
>>>>
>>>> Clark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 04:25 PM 5/7/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It definitely could be done in firmware. The
>>>> scanner has one VFO. Adding a >second one would only require another
channel
>>>> exactly like the one for the >first VFO, and a way to select it. You could
>>>> simply have the keypad active >to select 10 VFOs when you are in VFO mode.
I
>>>> don't recall the Yupi all >that well, but I know the recent AOR offerings
>>>> have two VFOs.>
>>>>> Joe M.
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
>> 03:33:00
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
>03:33:00
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Going to see the Space Shuttle launch Monday. Does anyone know which would be
good frequencies to use for the Bearcat BCD396XT or other scanners? Thanks.

Frequency Description Modulation
       118.6250 CCAFS Twr. AM
       118.9000 Space Coast RAP (launch-related acft). AM
       121.0500 Patrick discrete for FAA PATROL 1 2 3. AM
       122.9000 FAA Patrol acft Air-air AM
       125.9000 Cape Ctrl CCAFS RSO range clearance comms RELAY 1  AM
       126.6500 CCAFS Cape Twr NASA WX acft prelaunch. AM
       128.5500 KSC-Shuttle Landing Facility Twr. AM
       132.6500 Daytona Appr/Dep South. AM
       133.7500 Patrick AFB Twr. AM
       133.8000 CCAFS Sr RSO THINKER 1 CHARLIE;acft clrnc into Res AM
       134.9500 Daytona Appr/Dep North. AM
       138.4750 JOLLYs AM
       141.3000 CCAFS RSO; Cape Leader; VARIETY 1; KINGs; JOLLYs. AM
       145.1300 HAM Rptr - Vero Beach rexmsn of NASA Select. FM
       146.9400 HAM Rptr - Melbourne rexmsn of NASA Select. FM
       147.2700 HAM Rptr - Daytona Beach rexmsn of NASA Comms FM
       148.0350 CCAFS TV Net FM
       148.4850 KSC Photo (Net G). FM
       156.8000 Marine Ch 16 CG Range ctrl. FM
       157.0750 Marine Ch 81A prelaunch comms CG cutters FM
       157.1000 Marine Ch 22 prelaunch comms: cutters. FM
       157.1500 Marine 23A prelaunch comms: cutters. FM
       157.1750 Marine 83A prelaunch comms. FM
       162.6125 Launch Sppt FM
       163.0000 CCAFS Security; JOLLYs. AM
       163.4625 KSC/CCAFS Security. FM
       163.5125 CCAFS Disaster Ops. FM
       163.5375 KSC PR. FM
       165.1875 KSC Safety. FM
       165.4125 Launch Pad Ops FM
       165.6125 NASA Twr Rptr . FM
       170.1500 KSC Base Ops FM
       171.0000 KSC Utilities FM
       171.2625 KSC Media Coord. FM
       173.1750 KSC Security. FM
       173.4375 Cape Medical (Net 117) FM
       173.6625 KSC Safety . FM
       239.2750 Daytona Beach Appr/Dep AM
       259.7000 STS A-G Comms dur ascent/descent. AM
       261.7500 Cape Osbourne KINGs Dod-Cape Satcom FM
       261.9500 STS SATCOM NFM Downlink: Cape Osbourne KINGs. FM
       263.6250 STS SATCOM NFM Downlink: DoD Cape. FM
       264.8000 CCAS Sr RSO Thinker 1 Charlie. AM
       269.3750 Patrick Twr AM
       281.4250 Daytona Beach Appr/Dep AM
       284.0000 KSC SLF Twr. AM
       291.8000 CCAFS STS Support. AM
       294.6000 CCAFS STS Support; RSO; KINGs; JOLLYs; Cape Leader AM
       297.2250 STS SATCOM NFM Uplink: DoD Cape. FM
       393.0000 CCAFS Twr AM
       407.3250 Convoy Cmd Net (UHF-1) FM
       407.5250 Boeing for Delta Launches. FM
       409.1750 Convoy Cooling Net (UHF-8) FM
       416.5000 ETR Cmd Destruct Signal (Carrier heard) FM
       173.6875 Security TAC1 FM
       170.4000 Base Supply FM
       173.5375 Loan Pool FM
       173.5625 Fire Rescue Crash Dispatch FM
       171.1500 Utilites FM
       173.4625 Pad-B Safety Net FM
       170.1750 Base Transportation FM
       173.7875 Fire Rescue Crash Tactical FM
       170.3500 Base Paging FM
       121.7500 NASA Ground Control AM
       167.9250 Department of Energy FM
       413.2500 Industral Area FM
       32.6500 Range Safety FM
       46.6500 Range Safety FM
       138.4500 DOD Cape AM
       142.1250 Range Safety FM
       148.5150 Titan Operations FM
       163.4375 Launch Support FM
       163.4625 Security Police FM
       163.5625 Fire Rescue Crash FM
       163.5875 FCA Net - Radio Maintenance FM
       164.2000 Security FM
       164.5000 Environmental Health FM
       165.0125 Paging FM
       165.0375 Weather Base FM
       165.0625 Emergency Operations Center EOC FM
       165.0875 Cape Dispatch FM
       170.1250 Cape Security FM
       321.0000 Rescue Operations AM
       349.6000 Range Safety AM
       173.7875 Fire/Rescue/Crash FM
       270.0000 Air-Air AM




----- Original Message -----
From: "Nader" <dougdorpat@...>
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:35 AM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Cape Canaveral frequencies


> Going to see the Space Shuttle launch Monday. Does anyone know which would
> be good frequencies to use for the Bearcat BCD396XT or other scanners?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I have been evaluating both the HP and 396 for the past six months to
determine which one better meets my needs.  I have determined that the 396
is better suited for me.  I monitor a P25 system, several pager frequencies,
aviation frequencies and some older public service FM systems.

I am going to sell the HP.  I am asking $425.  If I don't sell it by the end
of this week I am putting it on e-bay.

If you are interested, contact me off-list at larrykoch@...
If you want you can call me at 816-271-3860.

Thanks.

Excellent list, Mark! Although I personally don't need them at the present time,
I've saved (and backed them up...I'm somewhat of a fanatic about backing up lol)
for future use. Thanks for posting them!

Shell

--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Levine, D.C." <wb2eqe@...> wrote:
>
>
>       Frequency Description Modulation
>       118.6250 CCAFS Twr. AM
>       118.9000 Space Coast RAP (launch-related acft). AM
>       121.0500 Patrick discrete for FAA PATROL 1 2 3. AM
>       122.9000 FAA Patrol acft Air-air AM
>       125.9000 Cape Ctrl CCAFS RSO range clearance comms RELAY 1  AM
>       126.6500 CCAFS Cape Twr NASA WX acft prelaunch. AM
>       128.5500 KSC-Shuttle Landing Facility Twr. AM
>       132.6500 Daytona Appr/Dep South. AM
>       133.7500 Patrick AFB Twr. AM
>       133.8000 CCAFS Sr RSO THINKER 1 CHARLIE;acft clrnc into Res AM
>       134.9500 Daytona Appr/Dep North. AM
>       138.4750 JOLLYs AM
>       141.3000 CCAFS RSO; Cape Leader; VARIETY 1; KINGs; JOLLYs. AM
>       145.1300 HAM Rptr - Vero Beach rexmsn of NASA Select. FM
>       146.9400 HAM Rptr - Melbourne rexmsn of NASA Select. FM
>       147.2700 HAM Rptr - Daytona Beach rexmsn of NASA Comms FM
>       148.0350 CCAFS TV Net FM
>       148.4850 KSC Photo (Net G). FM
>       156.8000 Marine Ch 16 CG Range ctrl. FM
>       157.0750 Marine Ch 81A prelaunch comms CG cutters FM
>       157.1000 Marine Ch 22 prelaunch comms: cutters. FM
>       157.1500 Marine 23A prelaunch comms: cutters. FM
>       157.1750 Marine 83A prelaunch comms. FM
>       162.6125 Launch Sppt FM
>       163.0000 CCAFS Security; JOLLYs. AM
>       163.4625 KSC/CCAFS Security. FM
>       163.5125 CCAFS Disaster Ops. FM
>       163.5375 KSC PR. FM
>       165.1875 KSC Safety. FM
>       165.4125 Launch Pad Ops FM
>       165.6125 NASA Twr Rptr . FM
>       170.1500 KSC Base Ops FM
>       171.0000 KSC Utilities FM
>       171.2625 KSC Media Coord. FM
>       173.1750 KSC Security. FM
>       173.4375 Cape Medical (Net 117) FM
>       173.6625 KSC Safety . FM
>       239.2750 Daytona Beach Appr/Dep AM
>       259.7000 STS A-G Comms dur ascent/descent. AM
>       261.7500 Cape Osbourne KINGs Dod-Cape Satcom FM
>       261.9500 STS SATCOM NFM Downlink: Cape Osbourne KINGs. FM
>       263.6250 STS SATCOM NFM Downlink: DoD Cape. FM
>       264.8000 CCAS Sr RSO Thinker 1 Charlie. AM
>       269.3750 Patrick Twr AM
>       281.4250 Daytona Beach Appr/Dep AM
>       284.0000 KSC SLF Twr. AM
>       291.8000 CCAFS STS Support. AM
>       294.6000 CCAFS STS Support; RSO; KINGs; JOLLYs; Cape Leader AM
>       297.2250 STS SATCOM NFM Uplink: DoD Cape. FM
>       393.0000 CCAFS Twr AM
>       407.3250 Convoy Cmd Net (UHF-1) FM
>       407.5250 Boeing for Delta Launches. FM
>       409.1750 Convoy Cooling Net (UHF-8) FM
>       416.5000 ETR Cmd Destruct Signal (Carrier heard) FM
>       173.6875 Security TAC1 FM
>       170.4000 Base Supply FM
>       173.5375 Loan Pool FM
>       173.5625 Fire Rescue Crash Dispatch FM
>       171.1500 Utilites FM
>       173.4625 Pad-B Safety Net FM
>       170.1750 Base Transportation FM
>       173.7875 Fire Rescue Crash Tactical FM
>       170.3500 Base Paging FM
>       121.7500 NASA Ground Control AM
>       167.9250 Department of Energy FM
>       413.2500 Industral Area FM
>       32.6500 Range Safety FM
>       46.6500 Range Safety FM
>       138.4500 DOD Cape AM
>       142.1250 Range Safety FM
>       148.5150 Titan Operations FM
>       163.4375 Launch Support FM
>       163.4625 Security Police FM
>       163.5625 Fire Rescue Crash FM
>       163.5875 FCA Net - Radio Maintenance FM
>       164.2000 Security FM
>       164.5000 Environmental Health FM
>       165.0125 Paging FM
>       165.0375 Weather Base FM
>       165.0625 Emergency Operations Center EOC FM
>       165.0875 Cape Dispatch FM
>       170.1250 Cape Security FM
>       321.0000 Rescue Operations AM
>       349.6000 Range Safety AM
>       173.7875 Fire/Rescue/Crash FM
>       270.0000 Air-Air AM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nader" <dougdorpat@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:35 AM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Cape Canaveral frequencies
>
>
> > Going to see the Space Shuttle launch Monday. Does anyone know which would
> > be good frequencies to use for the Bearcat BCD396XT or other scanners?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I was expecting a much larger list. I mean you really need all you can get. Come
on !!!
 
 
Just kidding. It is a great list.


--- On Fri, 5/13/11, shelleysh1@... <shelleysh1@...> wrote:


From: shelleysh1@... <shelleysh1@...>
Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: Cape Canaveral frequencies
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 8:10 AM


 



Excellent list, Mark! Although I personally don't need them at the present time,
I've saved (and backed them up...I'm somewhat of a fanatic about backing up lol)
for future use. Thanks for posting them!

Shell

--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Levine, D.C." <wb2eqe@...> wrote:
>
>
> Frequency Description Modulation
> 118.6250 CCAFS Twr. AM
> 118.9000 Space Coast RAP (launch-related acft). AM
> 121.0500 Patrick discrete for FAA PATROL 1 2 3. AM
> 122.9000 FAA Patrol acft Air-air AM
> 125.9000 Cape Ctrl CCAFS RSO range clearance comms RELAY 1 AM
> 126.6500 CCAFS Cape Twr NASA WX acft prelaunch. AM
> 128.5500 KSC-Shuttle Landing Facility Twr. AM
> 132.6500 Daytona Appr/Dep South. AM
> 133.7500 Patrick AFB Twr. AM
> 133.8000 CCAFS Sr RSO THINKER 1 CHARLIE;acft clrnc into Res AM
> 134.9500 Daytona Appr/Dep North. AM
> 138.4750 JOLLYs AM
> 141.3000 CCAFS RSO; Cape Leader; VARIETY 1; KINGs; JOLLYs. AM
> 145.1300 HAM Rptr - Vero Beach rexmsn of NASA Select. FM
> 146.9400 HAM Rptr - Melbourne rexmsn of NASA Select. FM
> 147.2700 HAM Rptr - Daytona Beach rexmsn of NASA Comms FM
> 148.0350 CCAFS TV Net FM
> 148.4850 KSC Photo (Net G). FM
> 156.8000 Marine Ch 16 CG Range ctrl. FM
> 157.0750 Marine Ch 81A prelaunch comms CG cutters FM
> 157.1000 Marine Ch 22 prelaunch comms: cutters. FM
> 157.1500 Marine 23A prelaunch comms: cutters. FM
> 157.1750 Marine 83A prelaunch comms. FM
> 162.6125 Launch Sppt FM
> 163.0000 CCAFS Security; JOLLYs. AM
> 163.4625 KSC/CCAFS Security. FM
> 163.5125 CCAFS Disaster Ops. FM
> 163.5375 KSC PR. FM
> 165.1875 KSC Safety. FM
> 165.4125 Launch Pad Ops FM
> 165.6125 NASA Twr Rptr . FM
> 170.1500 KSC Base Ops FM
> 171.0000 KSC Utilities FM
> 171.2625 KSC Media Coord. FM
> 173.1750 KSC Security. FM
> 173.4375 Cape Medical (Net 117) FM
> 173.6625 KSC Safety . FM
> 239.2750 Daytona Beach Appr/Dep AM
> 259.7000 STS A-G Comms dur ascent/descent. AM
> 261.7500 Cape Osbourne KINGs Dod-Cape Satcom FM
> 261.9500 STS SATCOM NFM Downlink: Cape Osbourne KINGs. FM
> 263.6250 STS SATCOM NFM Downlink: DoD Cape. FM
> 264.8000 CCAS Sr RSO Thinker 1 Charlie. AM
> 269.3750 Patrick Twr AM
> 281.4250 Daytona Beach Appr/Dep AM
> 284.0000 KSC SLF Twr. AM
> 291.8000 CCAFS STS Support. AM
> 294.6000 CCAFS STS Support; RSO; KINGs; JOLLYs; Cape Leader AM
> 297.2250 STS SATCOM NFM Uplink: DoD Cape. FM
> 393.0000 CCAFS Twr AM
> 407.3250 Convoy Cmd Net (UHF-1) FM
> 407.5250 Boeing for Delta Launches. FM
> 409.1750 Convoy Cooling Net (UHF-8) FM
> 416.5000 ETR Cmd Destruct Signal (Carrier heard) FM
> 173.6875 Security TAC1 FM
> 170.4000 Base Supply FM
> 173.5375 Loan Pool FM
> 173.5625 Fire Rescue Crash Dispatch FM
> 171.1500 Utilites FM
> 173.4625 Pad-B Safety Net FM
> 170.1750 Base Transportation FM
> 173.7875 Fire Rescue Crash Tactical FM
> 170.3500 Base Paging FM
> 121.7500 NASA Ground Control AM
> 167.9250 Department of Energy FM
> 413.2500 Industral Area FM
> 32.6500 Range Safety FM
> 46.6500 Range Safety FM
> 138.4500 DOD Cape AM
> 142.1250 Range Safety FM
> 148.5150 Titan Operations FM
> 163.4375 Launch Support FM
> 163.4625 Security Police FM
> 163.5625 Fire Rescue Crash FM
> 163.5875 FCA Net - Radio Maintenance FM
> 164.2000 Security FM
> 164.5000 Environmental Health FM
> 165.0125 Paging FM
> 165.0375 Weather Base FM
> 165.0625 Emergency Operations Center EOC FM
> 165.0875 Cape Dispatch FM
> 170.1250 Cape Security FM
> 321.0000 Rescue Operations AM
> 349.6000 Range Safety AM
> 173.7875 Fire/Rescue/Crash FM
> 270.0000 Air-Air AM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nader" <dougdorpat@...>
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:35 AM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Cape Canaveral frequencies
>
>
> > Going to see the Space Shuttle launch Monday. Does anyone know which would
> > be good frequencies to use for the Bearcat BCD396XT or other scanners?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Was up at the Amgen Bike Race from Lake Tahoe to SoCal.

The media flying over head was transmitting digital within the 450.0-450.975
band.

When I found these freqs in close call.  I changed them to Digital only mode. 
The radio did not
decode the audio.  I then set up a custom search using the above mentioned band.
I set it to C-ch only.
I did not know how to set a MOT. Band plan in this case.  Still not decoding. 
P-25 time set to zero.

Looks like the radios I saw where from this rental company:
http://www.seiwirelesssolutions.com/specials.htm

Any ideas about this?  Interesting to note the media using digital.

Thanks group.

-Lance

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I was looking at the specs for this radio:
http://www.seiwirelesssolutions.com/downloads/mototrbo/MOTOTRBO_Portable_Spec_Sh\
eet.pdf

Looks like the digital vocoder is AMBE+2T  with this protocol: ETSI TS 102
361-1, -2, -3

Perhaps this is why?




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The signal was probably not a APCO 25 digital but a MotoTrbo.

Clark


At 02:59 PM 5/16/2011, you wrote:

>Was up at the Amgen Bike Race from Lake Tahoe to SoCal.
>
>The media flying over head was transmitting digital within the
>450.0-450.975 band.
>
>When I found these freqs in close call.  I changed them to Digital only
>mode.  The radio did not
>decode the audio.  I then set up a custom search using the above mentioned
>band.  I set it to C-ch only.
>I did not know how to set a MOT. Band plan in this case.  Still not
>decoding.  P-25 time set to zero.
>
>Looks like the radios I saw where from this rental company:
>http://www.seiwirelesssolutions.com/specials.htm
>
>Any ideas about this?  Interesting to note the media using digital.
>
>Thanks group.
>
>-Lance

Those are Mototrbo. Not licensed for scanners.




________________________________
From: Lance <milcom_chaser@...>
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 4:59:17 PM
Subject: [BCD396XT] Won't decode digital?

 
Was up at the Amgen Bike Race from Lake Tahoe to SoCal.

The media flying over head was transmitting digital within the 450.0-450.975
band.

When I found these freqs in close call. I changed them to Digital only mode. The
radio did not
decode the audio. I then set up a custom search using the above mentioned band.
I set it to C-ch only.
I did not know how to set a MOT. Band plan in this case. Still not decoding.
P-25 time set to zero.

Looks like the radios I saw where from this rental company:
http://www.seiwirelesssolutions.com/specials.htm

Any ideas about this? Interesting to note the media using digital.

Thanks group.

-Lance

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That's kinda what I suspected since they are not P-25 after reflecting on this.

Oh well, would have been cool to listen to the live broadcast from the Copter...

Here's the link for the race if you care
http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/homepage#2

Thanks Paul.



On May 16, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Paul Opitz wrote:

> Those are Mototrbo. Not licensed for scanners.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lance <milcom_chaser@...>
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 4:59:17 PM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Won't decode digital?
>
>
> Was up at the Amgen Bike Race from Lake Tahoe to SoCal.
>
> The media flying over head was transmitting digital within the 450.0-450.975
> band.
>
> When I found these freqs in close call. I changed them to Digital only mode.
The
> radio did not
> decode the audio. I then set up a custom search using the above mentioned
band.
> I set it to C-ch only.
> I did not know how to set a MOT. Band plan in this case. Still not decoding.
> P-25 time set to zero.
>
> Looks like the radios I saw where from this rental company:
> http://www.seiwirelesssolutions.com/specials.htm
>
> Any ideas about this? Interesting to note the media using digital.
>
> Thanks group.
>
> -Lance
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There is a way to decode MOTOTRBO. On RR look at the thread on DSD. I forget
ecatly what sections of the forums it's in but I think it's computer control
or software decoding or something like that.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Lance" <milcom_chaser@...>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:59 PM
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [BCD396XT] Won't decode digital?

> Was up at the Amgen Bike Race from Lake Tahoe to SoCal.
>
> The media flying over head was transmitting digital within the
> 450.0-450.975 band.
>
> When I found these freqs in close call.  I changed them to Digital only
> mode.  The radio did not
> decode the audio.  I then set up a custom search using the above mentioned
> band.  I set it to C-ch only.
> I did not know how to set a MOT. Band plan in this case.  Still not
> decoding.  P-25 time set to zero.
>
> Looks like the radios I saw where from this rental company:
> http://www.seiwirelesssolutions.com/specials.htm
>
> Any ideas about this?  Interesting to note the media using digital.
>
> Thanks group.
>
> -Lance
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>