Sorry about the newbie question.

Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?

thanks in advance
bruno

Dude,

There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you did,
it's all SMT (surface mount technology).

The radio has output for that in the menu.  It's C-Ch out.  You would need some
kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio.  I have not
researched what type analog output form the radio provides.  There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.

Many others will comment about this on the group.

Sounds interesting what your doing.

Best of skill...



On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:

> Sorry about the newbie question.
>
> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
>
> thanks in advance
> bruno
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

C-Ch out is an interpreted (text) output. It does not provide "sliced" data. I'm
not too familiar with AIS, but it might be possible to decode it from the audio
output rather than a disc tap. It all depends on the data format and encoding
method.

 
UPMan


>________________________________
>From: Lance <milcom_chaser@...>
>To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] marine AIS and BCD396XT
>
>Dude,
>
>There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you did,
it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
>
>The radio has output for that in the menu.  It's C-Ch out.  You would need some
kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio.  I have not
researched what type analog output form the radio provides.  There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
>
>Many others will comment about this on the group. 
>
>Sounds interesting what your doing.
>
>Best of skill...
>
>
>
>On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
>
>> Sorry about the newbie question.
>>
>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>> bruno
>>
>>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable to the
data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?

I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have the cable
yet, so I can't test it right now...

--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance <milcom_chaser@...> wrote:
>
> Dude,
>
> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you did,
it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
>
> The radio has output for that in the menu.  It's C-Ch out.  You would need
some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio.  I have
not researched what type analog output form the radio provides.  There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
>
> Many others will comment about this on the group.
>
> Sounds interesting what your doing.
>
> Best of skill...
>
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
>
> > Sorry about the newbie question.
> >
> > Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
> >
> > thanks in advance
> > bruno
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Based on some quick Googling, it looks like a tap is necessary. Here are a
couple of the links I found:
 
http://www.coaa.co.uk/shipplotter.htm
http://rl.se/ais_eng

UPMan

From: brunovianna <brunovianna.listas.0@...>
>To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:21 PM
>Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT
>
>
> 
>
>So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable to the
data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
>
>I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have the cable
yet, so I can't test it right now...
>
>--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance <milcom_chaser@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dude,
>>
>> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you
did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
>>
>> The radio has output for that in the menu. It's C-Ch out. You would need some
kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio. I have not
researched what type analog output form the radio provides. There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
>>
>> Many others will comment about this on the group.
>>
>> Sounds interesting what your doing.
>>
>> Best of skill...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry about the newbie question.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
>> >
>> > thanks in advance
>> > bruno
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I don't think it would work out too well for you.  First AIS is only on
two frequencies and there quick bursts of data so you would have to keep
the 396xt on those two frequencies and only those two frequencies,
that's a lot of scanner to tie up just for that.  Best to get an old
scanner off ebay or pawn shop an do the discriminator hook up and use it
just for AIS stuff. Best way is to buy an AIS recever and software and
do it that way.

Mel

On 4/13/2011 1:21 PM, brunovianna wrote:
> So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable to the
data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
>
> I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have the cable
yet, so I can't test it right now...
>
> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance<milcom_chaser@...>  wrote:
>
>> Dude,
>>
>> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you
did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
>>
>> The radio has output for that in the menu.  It's C-Ch out.  You would need
some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio.  I have
not researched what type analog output form the radio provides.  There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
>>
>> Many others will comment about this on the group.
>>
>> Sounds interesting what your doing.
>>
>> Best of skill...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry about the newbie question.
>>>
>>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
>>>
>>> thanks in advance
>>> bruno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't  look so
difficult, so I gave it a try. Guess what? It works already!

I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and I'm
getting data from the ships around already.

Thanks guys
Bruno


--- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Mel <wasagamel@...> wrote:
>
> I don't think it would work out too well for you.  First AIS is only on
> two frequencies and there quick bursts of data so you would have to keep
> the 396xt on those two frequencies and only those two frequencies,
> that's a lot of scanner to tie up just for that.  Best to get an old
> scanner off ebay or pawn shop an do the discriminator hook up and use it
> just for AIS stuff. Best way is to buy an AIS recever and software and
> do it that way.
>
> Mel
>
> On 4/13/2011 1:21 PM, brunovianna wrote:
> > So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable to
the data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
> >
> > I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have the
cable yet, so I can't test it right now...
> >
> > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance<milcom_chaser@>  wrote:
> >
> >> Dude,
> >>
> >> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you
did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
> >>
> >> The radio has output for that in the menu.  It's C-Ch out.  You would need
some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio.  I have
not researched what type analog output form the radio provides.  There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
> >>
> >> Many others will comment about this on the group.
> >>
> >> Sounds interesting what your doing.
> >>
> >> Best of skill...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sorry about the newbie question.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
> >>>
> >>> thanks in advance
> >>> bruno
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

you did this on the 396XT?


On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, brunovianna wrote:

>
> Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't look so
difficult, so I gave it a try. Guess what? It works already!
>
> I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and I'm
getting data from the ships around already.
>
> Thanks guys
> Bruno
>
> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Mel <wasagamel@...> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it would work out too well for you. First AIS is only on
> > two frequencies and there quick bursts of data so you would have to keep
> > the 396xt on those two frequencies and only those two frequencies,
> > that's a lot of scanner to tie up just for that. Best to get an old
> > scanner off ebay or pawn shop an do the discriminator hook up and use it
> > just for AIS stuff. Best way is to buy an AIS recever and software and
> > do it that way.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > On 4/13/2011 1:21 PM, brunovianna wrote:
> > > So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable to
the data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
> > >
> > > I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have the
cable yet, so I can't test it right now...
> > >
> > > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance<milcom_chaser@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dude,
> > >>
> > >> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you
did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
> > >>
> > >> The radio has output for that in the menu. It's C-Ch out. You would need
some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio. I have
not researched what type analog output form the radio provides. There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
> > >>
> > >> Many others will comment about this on the group.
> > >>
> > >> Sounds interesting what your doing.
> > >>
> > >> Best of skill...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Sorry about the newbie question.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks in advance
> > >>> bruno
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes! The place to solder is clearly marked "DISC" and "GROUND". It was
really just opening and soldering. I had to pull the cable through the
battery compartment, where there's an opening. I'll try to get a small jack
so it looks better than having this P2 cable as a tail...

Bruno

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Lance <milcom_chaser@...> wrote:

> you did this on the 396XT?
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:58 PM, brunovianna wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't
> look so difficult, so I gave it a try. Guess what? It works already!
> >
> > I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and
> I'm getting data from the ships around already.
> >
> > Thanks guys
> > Bruno
> >
> > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Mel <wasagamel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think it would work out too well for you. First AIS is only on
> > > two frequencies and there quick bursts of data so you would have to
> keep
> > > the 396xt on those two frequencies and only those two frequencies,
> > > that's a lot of scanner to tie up just for that. Best to get an old
> > > scanner off ebay or pawn shop an do the discriminator hook up and use
> it
> > > just for AIS stuff. Best way is to buy an AIS recever and software and
> > > do it that way.
> > >
> > > Mel
> > >
> > > On 4/13/2011 1:21 PM, brunovianna wrote:
> > > > So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB
> cable to the data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
> > > >
> > > > I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have
> the cable yet, so I can't test it right now...
> > > >
> > > > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance<milcom_chaser@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dude,
> > > >>
> > > >> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and
> if you did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
> > > >>
> > > >> The radio has output for that in the menu. It's C-Ch out. You would
> need some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the
> radio. I have not researched what type analog output form the radio
> provides. There may be a distinction between what you see on a discriminator
> tap and what Uniden has labeled C-Ch output.
> > > >>
> > > >> Many others will comment about this on the group.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sounds interesting what your doing.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best of skill...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Sorry about the newbie question.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
> http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder
> the discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output
> port could decode it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> thanks in advance
> > > >>> bruno
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bruno,
   Would you mind explaining the process. I deleted a couple emails by mistake. I
am on the Gulf of Mexico and would love to give that a shot. I am planning to
use the BCT15X or the BCD996XT not my 396, since I use the BCT15X, BCD996XT for
base units. If it is a distraction to the group, you may email me directly, or
here in the group if no one objects?

Thanks,
Walter


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: brunovianna
   To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:58 PM
   Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT




   Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't look so
difficult, so I gave it a try. Guess what? It works already!

   I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and I'm
getting data from the ships around already.

   Thanks guys
   Bruno

   --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Mel <wasagamel@...> wrote:
   >
   > I don't think it would work out too well for you. First AIS is only on
   > two frequencies and there quick bursts of data so you would have to keep
   > the 396xt on those two frequencies and only those two frequencies,
   > that's a lot of scanner to tie up just for that. Best to get an old
   > scanner off ebay or pawn shop an do the discriminator hook up and use it
   > just for AIS stuff. Best way is to buy an AIS recever and software and
   > do it that way.
   >
   > Mel
   >
   > On 4/13/2011 1:21 PM, brunovianna wrote:
   > > So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable to
the data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
   > >
   > > I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have the
cable yet, so I can't test it right now...
   > >
   > > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance<milcom_chaser@> wrote:
   > >
   > >> Dude,
   > >>
   > >> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if you
did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
   > >>
   > >> The radio has output for that in the menu. It's C-Ch out. You would need
some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the radio. I have
not researched what type analog output form the radio provides. There may be a
distinction between what you see on a discriminator tap and what Uniden has
labeled C-Ch output.
   > >>
   > >> Many others will comment about this on the group.
   > >>
   > >> Sounds interesting what your doing.
   > >>
   > >> Best of skill...
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>> Sorry about the newbie question.
   > >>>
   > >>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder the
discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output port
could decode it?
   > >>>
   > >>> thanks in advance
   > >>> bruno
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   > >>
   > >>
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > ------------------------------------
   > >
   > > Yahoo! Groups Links
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Just buy a AIS receiver and have it upload to MarineTraffic.com :)
Use the 396XT for other stuff ;)


AIS-1 - Marine AIS Receiver
Aimed at Marine enthusiasts, the unit will feature a full marine band radio and,
at the same time,
full on-board multi channel AIS decoding with Ethernet and USB connectivity.
<http://www.kinetic.co.uk/ais-1.php> (Coming soon).
<http://www.kinetic.co.uk/estore/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=17>


AISnet is a new AIS receiver for use as an AIS base station at home or in the
office.
<http://www.digitalyacht.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=11659>

<http://www.milltechmarine.com/>  - Your AIS Experts on Receivers.

<http://shiptrackingais.blogspot.com/>

<http://www.aishub.net/>

<http://forum.shipais.com/>



-----Original Message-----
From: brunovianna
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:59 PM
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT


Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't  look so
difficult, so I gave
it a try. Guess what? It works already!

I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and I'm
getting data from the
ships around already.

Thanks guys
Bruno

Brian, Thanks for those links and info. I already follow ACARS (Commercial /
Civilian Aircraft), APRS, POCSAG, MCT/MDT (CAD Monitoring), just starting to
tinker with Mode-S Military Aircraft, Digital Encryption Decoders, and
UniTrunker (found a bit boring). But I had only heard something once before
about AIS. I remember when Pop Comm had the article about HF phasing out for
Maritime use years ago (I am almost 40 and been using scanners since I was maybe
7 or 8, started with an old Bearcat 8 channel VHF Hi/Low - UHF crystal
controlled (The big black metal scanner with the big speaker and 8 red LEDs that
would "chase" across the front, with a lock-out / hold switch at each LED). My
Grandfather gave me when I was 7 I believe. Then a few years later, he gave me
one of the first portable 4 channel crystal controlled scanners, which I
actually found the 159.150 MHz crystal for that one when I was cleaning my
garage last year, (the old Escambia County, FL Sheriff Channel).
   Wow, has radio technology come a LOOONG way since then! I never cease to be
amazed at the ever changing technology, but a bit frustrated when they started
using systems with ProVoice, etc... at least until that handy, very tiny bit of
code was written to decode most of it ;-) But then again, there seems to be a
new type of encryption every time one is broken :-(
   Anyway, thanks again for the links, I will have to check out AIS, as VHF
carries very well here on the Gulf of Mexico. I can hear ship voice channels for
hundreds of miles, and aircraft all the way out over the Atlantic Ocean for most
of the year, I guess it is the ducting or inversion layers over the warm water
here on the Gulf Coast?

Have a great night,
Walter J. - In The Middle of; Pensacola NAS, KPNS, NAS Whiting NSE & NDZ, 2R4,
and Eglin AFB / Hurlburt Field




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Brian
   To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:50 PM
   Subject: RE: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT



   Just buy a AIS receiver and have it upload to MarineTraffic.com :)
   Use the 396XT for other stuff ;)

   AIS-1 - Marine AIS Receiver
   Aimed at Marine enthusiasts, the unit will feature a full marine band radio
and, at the same time,
   full on-board multi channel AIS decoding with Ethernet and USB connectivity.
   <http://www.kinetic.co.uk/ais-1.php> (Coming soon).
   <http://www.kinetic.co.uk/estore/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=17>

   AISnet is a new AIS receiver for use as an AIS base station at home or in the
office.
   <http://www.digitalyacht.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=11659>

   <http://www.milltechmarine.com/> - Your AIS Experts on Receivers.

   <http://shiptrackingais.blogspot.com/>

   <http://www.aishub.net/>

   <http://forum.shipais.com/>

   -----Original Message-----
   From: brunovianna
   Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:59 PM
   To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT

   Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't look so
difficult, so I gave
   it a try. Guess what? It works already!

   I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and I'm
getting data from the
   ships around already.

   Thanks guys
   Bruno





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Walter Jinright wrote:
>
>
> Brian, Thanks for those links and info. I already follow ACARS
> (Commercial / Civilian Aircraft), APRS, POCSAG, MCT/MDT (CAD
> Monitoring), just starting to tinker with Mode-S Military Aircraft,
> Digital Encryption Decoders, and UniTrunker (found a bit boring).
>
Walter,

Have you tried TRUNK88 for monitoring trunked radio systems?
Personally, I find it to be a little more user-friendly than UniTrunker,
and perhaps not as boring.

P.S. -  I actually have one of those old Bearcat IV scanners in my shack!

John

Hi Walter, absolutely no problem.

Here are the steps:

1) Remove 6 black screws from the back of the scanner (2 are in the battery
compartment)
2) Remove the casing
3) Remove 6 silver screws that hold the board to the other side of the
casing. Again, 2 of the screws were under a black tape next to the speaker.
4) Remove carefully the board from the casing - two wires will be connected
to the speakers, you will need to watch that.
5) On the top part, there will be actually two boards connected through a
header. Pull them apart.
6) Look at the inner side of the top board. You'll see a few solder discs
marked GROUND, DISC, RSSI and another one I can't remember. You need to
solder an audio cable to DISC and GROUND.
7) Now you have to find a way to get the cable out of the casing, and also
solder a mono p2 jack (or whatever you want) to the other end. This will be
your unfiltered audio out. The DISC will be the tip of the p2, GROUND will
be the ring.

I passed the cable through the hole in battery compartment. I'd prefer to
make a new plug next to the power jack, like this:
http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-scanners/108388-396t-usb-port-discrimina\
tor-bluetooth-mod.html
But I couldn't find the USB jacks.

8) Now just put everything back together, plug the audio cable to your
computer, and use either shipplotter or AISmon to decode the data.

Have fun
Bruno

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Walter Jinright <ipnfla124@...>wrote:

>
>
>
> Bruno,
> Would you mind explaining the process. I deleted a couple emails by
> mistake. I am on the Gulf of Mexico and would love to give that a shot. I am
> planning to use the BCT15X or the BCD996XT not my 396, since I use the
> BCT15X, BCD996XT for base units. If it is a distraction to the group, you
> may email me directly, or here in the group if no one objects?
>
> Thanks,
> Walter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: brunovianna
> To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:58 PM
> Subject: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT
>
> Yeah, I figured it wouldn't... and adding the discriminator tap didn't look
> so difficult, so I gave it a try. Guess what? It works already!
>
> I connected the tap connected to the mic in, installed shipplotter... and
> I'm getting data from the ships around already.
>
> Thanks guys
> Bruno
>
> --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Mel <wasagamel@...> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it would work out too well for you. First AIS is only on
> > two frequencies and there quick bursts of data so you would have to keep
> > the 396xt on those two frequencies and only those two frequencies,
> > that's a lot of scanner to tie up just for that. Best to get an old
> > scanner off ebay or pawn shop an do the discriminator hook up and use it
> > just for AIS stuff. Best way is to buy an AIS recever and software and
> > do it that way.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > On 4/13/2011 1:21 PM, brunovianna wrote:
> > > So, is it just like manually entering the frequency, hook the USB cable
> to the data port and wait for the data on a terminal program in my PC?
> > >
> > > I thought there'd be some kind of configuration needed. I don't have
> the cable yet, so I can't test it right now...
> > >
> > > --- In BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com, Lance<milcom_chaser@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dude,
> > >>
> > >> There is no reason to break out the soldering iron on a 396XT, and if
> you did, it's all SMT (surface mount technology).
> > >>
> > >> The radio has output for that in the menu. It's C-Ch out. You would
> need some kind of software to interpret the raw data coming out of the
> radio. I have not researched what type analog output form the radio
> provides. There may be a distinction between what you see on a discriminator
> tap and what Uniden has labeled C-Ch output.
> > >>
> > >> Many others will comment about this on the group.
> > >>
> > >> Sounds interesting what your doing.
> > >>
> > >> Best of skill...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:30 AM, brunovianna wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Sorry about the newbie question.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there anyway I can decode AIS info - such as used by
> http://www.marinetraffic.com/ - with the bcd396xt without having to solder
> the discriminator tap? any program that could be used with the data output
> port could decode it?
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks in advance
> > >>> bruno
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

This product was just released this week.

Nice to see more lower cost AIS receivers on the market!

USB-Dongle AIS Receiver - Size of an USB-Stick
---------------------------------

MarineGadget Radar - AIS Receiver

New! The lowest priced and most portable AIS receiver in the world!

<http://www.radargadgets.com/>


Just £99 (UK) or €120(EU)!
Includes Post&Packing

A complete Marine AIS receiver in a tiny USB dongle.

* USB connection appears as a simple serial com port compatible with most
plotting software
* Output NMEA 0183 VDM messages
* Decodes messages 1,2,3,4,5,9,18,19,21,24
* USB powered (no power cables/supplies to carry or install) *Capable of
listening on Channel A(161.975Mhz) or Channel B(162.025Mhz), or alternating
between the two.
* USB virtual serial port baud rate 38400
* Antenna input SMA or BNC through supplied adaptor (50R)
* USB extender cable supplied
* Sensitivity -110dBm
* Dimensions only 75x23x8mm

Whether used for shipspotting on the coast or on board a boat the
MarineGadget-Radar provides an extremely portable, simple to install (powered
over USB and no USB to serial adaptors) and low cost AIS receiver.

Requires a marine/VHF antenna with BNC or SMA connection and a PC with USB.

Range is limited by line of sight (except during troposphere ducting
conditions), the relatively low power of ship transponders and the height and
gain of your antenna. Typical range on on the coast with a low level antenna
12Nm, on an elevated antenna position 20-50Nm. 250Nm+ under the right ducting
conditions.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
DPD Productions AIS antennas available:
<http://www.dpdproductions.com/page_marine.html>

Walter, what program and how do you follow MDT CAD Monitoring.
Many years ago I used (for Los Angeles City fire )a Windows program (I
think it was MDT Mon) but it doesn't work with the format now used by many
agencies.

Clark



At 09:04 PM 4/13/2011, you wrote:

>   Brian, Thanks for those links and info. I already follow ACARS
> (Commercial / Civilian Aircraft), APRS, POCSAG, MCT/MDT (CAD Monitoring),
> just starting to tinker with Mode-S Military Aircraft, Digital Encryption
> Decoders, and UniTrunker (found a bit boring). But I had only heard
> something once before about AIS. I remember when Pop Comm had the article
> about HF phasing out for Maritime use years ago (I am almost 40 and been
> using scanners since I was maybe 7 or 8, started with an old Bearcat 8
> channel VHF Hi/Low - UHF crystal controlled (The big black metal scanner
> with the big speaker and 8 red LEDs that would "chase" across the front,
> with a lock-out / hold switch at each LED). My Grandfather gave me when I
> was 7 I believe. Then a few years later, he gave me one of the first
> portable 4 channel crystal controlled scanners, which I actually found
> the 159.150 MHz crystal for that one when I was cleaning my garage last
> year, (the old Escambia County, FL Sheriff Channel).
>   Wow, has radio technology come a LOOONG way since then! I never cease
> to be amazed at the ever changing technology, but a bit frustrated when
> they started using systems with ProVoice, etc... at least until that
> handy, very tiny bit of code was written to decode most of it ;-) But
> then again, there seems to be a new type of encryption every time one is
> broken :-(
>   Anyway, thanks again for the links, I will have to check out AIS, as
> VHF carries very well here on the Gulf of Mexico. I can hear ship voice
> channels for hundreds of miles, and aircraft all the way out over the
> Atlantic Ocean for most of the year, I guess it is the ducting or
> inversion layers over the warm water here on the Gulf Coast?
>
>Have a great night,
>Walter J. - In The Middle of; Pensacola NAS, KPNS, NAS Whiting NSE & NDZ,
>2R4, and Eglin AFB / Hurlburt Field

Several local counties simulcast / multicast the CAD info on a one way paging
protocol system also. So using POC32 V 2.07 (Pocsag Protocol monitor), I am able
to use an old Radio Shack "Legacy" scanner (the kind where you actually
programmed by the set number of channels). And I put the 3 Pocsag frequencies in
and ONLY, scan those frequencies with all delays turned off, and get a real-time
/ very near real-time scrolling view of the MDT in the Cars/EMS units/Fire
Units, as well as special announcements, notes, instant messages from car to
car, etc....
   It can also be done using Smart CAD (locally know as Smart Cop, written by a
software company right here in Pensacola, FL), and a radio that will follow the
800 MHz data stream. As long as you set the software to a demo mode, or just
open receive, it does not need to acknowledge the system (transmit back any data
packets). And there you have it ;-) Even get to see all the juicy comments
between male and female Public Servants (married or not!), so you know who is
making those midnight rendezvous, who is actually sitting behind the local
hardware store just running random tags they wrote down before going to "sit
out" a few hours on the shift (yes, that really happens). Also got the scoop
right "from the horse's mouth", of racial slurs, both from white and black
officers (thinking no one is seeing the "private messages they send each
other!). And you can save the data too! So if one wanted to totally break a
department up and cause the largest scandals since Watergate, it could be done!
   Hope you enjoyed learning about that. It is really simple to do, give it a try
if those methods are used in your area.

Happy Scanning!
Walter J. - In The Middle of; Pensacola NAS, KPNS, NAS Whiting KNSE & KNDZ, 2R4,
and Eglin AFB / Hurlburt Field



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Clark Rennie
   To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:57 PM
   Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT



   Walter, what program and how do you follow MDT CAD Monitoring.
   Many years ago I used (for Los Angeles City fire )a Windows program (I
   think it was MDT Mon) but it doesn't work with the format now used by many
   agencies.

   Clark

   At 09:04 PM 4/13/2011, you wrote:

   > Brian, Thanks for those links and info. I already follow ACARS
   > (Commercial / Civilian Aircraft), APRS, POCSAG, MCT/MDT (CAD Monitoring),
   > just starting to tinker with Mode-S Military Aircraft, Digital Encryption
   > Decoders, and UniTrunker (found a bit boring). But I had only heard
   > something once before about AIS. I remember when Pop Comm had the article
   > about HF phasing out for Maritime use years ago (I am almost 40 and been
   > using scanners since I was maybe 7 or 8, started with an old Bearcat 8
   > channel VHF Hi/Low - UHF crystal controlled (The big black metal scanner
   > with the big speaker and 8 red LEDs that would "chase" across the front,
   > with a lock-out / hold switch at each LED). My Grandfather gave me when I
   > was 7 I believe. Then a few years later, he gave me one of the first
   > portable 4 channel crystal controlled scanners, which I actually found
   > the 159.150 MHz crystal for that one when I was cleaning my garage last
   > year, (the old Escambia County, FL Sheriff Channel).
   > Wow, has radio technology come a LOOONG way since then! I never cease
   > to be amazed at the ever changing technology, but a bit frustrated when
   > they started using systems with ProVoice, etc... at least until that
   > handy, very tiny bit of code was written to decode most of it ;-) But
   > then again, there seems to be a new type of encryption every time one is
   > broken :-(
   > Anyway, thanks again for the links, I will have to check out AIS, as
   > VHF carries very well here on the Gulf of Mexico. I can hear ship voice
   > channels for hundreds of miles, and aircraft all the way out over the
   > Atlantic Ocean for most of the year, I guess it is the ducting or
   > inversion layers over the warm water here on the Gulf Coast?
   >
   >Have a great night,
   >Walter J. - In The Middle of; Pensacola NAS, KPNS, NAS Whiting NSE & NDZ,
   >2R4, and Eglin AFB / Hurlburt Field





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I love the MarineGadget Radar - "AIS Receiver New! The lowest priced and most
portable AIS receiver in the world!". That is the best type of receiver /
decoder / dongle, all-in-one I have seen. I wonder what the  £99 (UK) or
€120(EU) would actually be after conversion to US Dollars and Shipping from
the UK or Europe?
   I would much prefer to pay it though, that to open my still under warranty
scanner(s) and risk killing a $500 radio!

I appreciate all the info, Bruno and Brian. You guys have been awesome help! So
I will be able to "watch", ACARS, Mode-S, and AIS before long with just the 2
base scanners and the MarineGadget Radar dongle.

Thanks a bunch again!
Walter J. - In The Middle of; Pensacola NAS, KPNS, NAS Whiting KNSE & KNDZ, 2R4,
and Eglin AFB / Hurlburt Field



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Brian
   To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:00 PM
   Subject: RE: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT



   This product was just released this week.

   Nice to see more lower cost AIS receivers on the market!

   USB-Dongle AIS Receiver - Size of an USB-Stick
   ---------------------------------

   MarineGadget Radar - AIS Receiver

   New! The lowest priced and most portable AIS receiver in the world!

   <http://www.radargadgets.com/>

   Just £99 (UK) or €120(EU)!
   Includes Post&Packing

   A complete Marine AIS receiver in a tiny USB dongle.

   * USB connection appears as a simple serial com port compatible with most
   plotting software
   * Output NMEA 0183 VDM messages
   * Decodes messages 1,2,3,4,5,9,18,19,21,24
   * USB powered (no power cables/supplies to carry or install) *Capable of
   listening on Channel A(161.975Mhz) or Channel B(162.025Mhz), or alternating
   between the two.
   * USB virtual serial port baud rate 38400
   * Antenna input SMA or BNC through supplied adaptor (50R)
   * USB extender cable supplied
   * Sensitivity -110dBm
   * Dimensions only 75x23x8mm

   Whether used for shipspotting on the coast or on board a boat the
   MarineGadget-Radar provides an extremely portable, simple to install (powered
   over USB and no USB to serial adaptors) and low cost AIS receiver.

   Requires a marine/VHF antenna with BNC or SMA connection and a PC with USB.

   Range is limited by line of sight (except during troposphere ducting
   conditions), the relatively low power of ship transponders and the height and
   gain of your antenna. Typical range on on the coast with a low level antenna
   12Nm, on an elevated antenna position 20-50Nm. 250Nm+ under the right ducting
   conditions.

   ----------------------------------------------------------
   DPD Productions AIS antennas available:
   <http://www.dpdproductions.com/page_marine.html>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Not to be a kill-joy or anything, but I'm pretty sure it's technically illegal
to intercept pager and/or MDT traffic.  Just beware.....

Ken

Sent from my whiz-bang iPhone.

On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:23, "Walter Jinright" <ipnfla124@...> wrote:

>  Several local counties simulcast / multicast the CAD info on a one way paging
protocol system also. So using POC32 V 2.07 (Pocsag Protocol monitor), I am able
to use an old Radio Shack "Legacy" scanner (the
<SNIP>

hello want to buy this modelode 396xt Uniden, but I wonder if there is any
program to extend the frequency range to a frequency or continuously, without
breaks,thanks! a greeting from Spain.

No, the frequency bands are hard coded into the radio's CPU.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:57 AM, soniaahora wrote:

     hello want to buy this modelode 396xt Uniden, but I wonder if there
is any program to extend the frequency range to a frequency or
continuously, without breaks,thanks! a greeting from Spain.

   <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There was a UBC396t made which is the unblocked version of the older BCD396T or
little brother of the BCD396XT



Mike



From: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dmccorm@...
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:37 AM
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BCD396XT] software to extend the frequency range of Uniden 396xt






No, the frequency bands are hard coded into the radio's CPU.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:57 AM, soniaahora wrote:

hello want to buy this modelode 396xt Uniden, but I wonder if there
is any program to extend the frequency range to a frequency or
continuously, without breaks,thanks! a greeting from Spain.

<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I thought so, but I also worked with one of the local agencies for many years,
I was a Major over Communications. When I showed our Chief of Communications
(Over all County Radio Systems), his exact words were, "We put it out on the
air, it becomes public information just like when we receive an email from a
citizen asking an official question". So he knows it is done, I also had made
him aware that there was a local scanner club (in the late 90's - around 2001),
that was actually posting the decoded text on a BBS system. The only change the
Chief of Comms made, was he had everyone stop putting passwords, alarm, door,
gate, and other codes as to prevent someone from using the info to burglarize a
building where fire or deputies are dispatched, they give the address and key
location, alarm code,etc.. Other than that, he pretty much does not care.
   I know I have sent my share of "private" pages and messages over the system
many times, even for a year or so before I knew it was so easy to decode! So I
am sure one of those "boys" has an old CD-ROM or floppy still out there
somewhere with my dirty laundry on it too ;-)
   Also, I know many of the people on the system, they know it is also watched at
the source by their Captains (because of harsh, cursing pages, racial pages, etc
that have been sent to people in the past, so if they even drop the "F Bomb" on
the message system or over the Zetron Paging system, they will be called into an
office that day/night and get their rear handed to them!
   Anyway, it is no secret, at least here, even deputies, fire fighters, emts,
even county road guys are know to open the ole poc32 and monitor, so I do care
that anyone know I do check out the system on a basis of several times a week.
But I do not go tell "Bob" that "Jim" is talking smack about him behind his
back, etc... I use discretion, as do most of the users on the system, as it is
also a tool for the job too.

Thanks for the tip and Happy Scanning!
Walter J. - In The Middle of; Pensacola NAS, KPNS, NAS Whiting KNSE & KNDZ, 2R4,
and Eglin AFB / Hurlburt Field



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ken Bandy
   To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:32 AM
   Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT



   Not to be a kill-joy or anything, but I'm pretty sure it's technically illegal
to intercept pager and/or MDT traffic. Just beware.....

   Ken

   Sent from my whiz-bang iPhone.

   On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:23, "Walter Jinright" <ipnfla124@...> wrote:

   > Several local counties simulcast / multicast the CAD info on a one way
paging protocol system also. So using POC32 V 2.07 (Pocsag Protocol monitor), I
am able to use an old Radio Shack "Legacy" scanner (the
   <SNIP>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The UBC396T  version sold in England and Austrailia is unblocked. Don't
think they released an XT version though.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "soniaahora" <soniaahora@...>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:57 AM
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [BCD396XT] software to extend the frequency range of Uniden 396xt

> hello want to buy this modelode 396xt Uniden, but I wonder if there is any
> program to extend the frequency range to a frequency or continuously,
> without breaks,thanks! a greeting from Spain.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

. . . at West Coast Mall -
http://www.westcoastmall.net/larsen-nmo150-450-800-tri-band-nmo-antenna-p-5485.h\
tml.  Ham Radio Outlet - http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-005891 –
matched the price.

Not just technically illegal, but literally
illegal in the USA per the ECPA as amended in 1994.

Joe M.

Ken Bandy wrote:
> Not to be a kill-joy or anything, but I'm pretty sure it's technically illegal
to intercept pager and/or MDT traffic.  Just beware.....
>
> Ken
>
> Sent from my whiz-bang iPhone.
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:23, "Walter Jinright" <ipnfla124@...> wrote:
>
>>  Several local counties simulcast / multicast the CAD info on a one way
paging protocol system also. So using POC32 V 2.07 (Pocsag Protocol monitor), I
am able to use an old Radio Shack "Legacy" scanner (the
> <SNIP>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
03:33:00
>

That's not the FCC's view. In 1986 they passed the ECPA which made
Cellular illegal to receive. In 1994, they expanded the ECPA to include
Cordless, paging, STL, and some other frequency types.

So, despite the fact they are transmitted over
public airwaves, they are not legal to receive.

Joe M.

Walter Jinright wrote:
>   I thought so, but I also worked with one of the local agencies for many
years, I was a Major over Communications. When I showed our Chief of
Communications (Over all County Radio Systems), his exact words were, "We put it
out on the air, it becomes public information<snip>

To rephrase this a bit, it's not illegal to receive it, it is however
illegal to decode pagers, MDT's and so forth. It is illegal to monitor
things like cordless phones even though they are in the clear. I'm still at
a loss why the OP openly admits in a public forum
to decoding this stuff, that's Federal Time! There are however provisions
for law enforcement to be able to monitor these transmissions for
investigations but that's the ONLY exception to the law.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "MCH" <mch@...>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:20 PM
To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT

> That's not the FCC's view. In 1986 they passed the ECPA which made
> Cellular illegal to receive. In 1994, they expanded the ECPA to include
> Cordless, paging, STL, and some other frequency types.
>
> So, despite the fact they are transmitted over
> public airwaves, they are not legal to receive.
>
> Joe M.
>
> Walter Jinright wrote:
>>   I thought so, but I also worked with one of the local agencies for many
>> years, I was a Major over Communications. When I showed our Chief of
>> Communications (Over all County Radio Systems), his exact words were, "We
>> put it out on the air, it becomes public information<snip>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Well, it doesn't say it's illegal to decode, either, if we are going to
pick nits. It says it's illegal to "intentionally intercept" it.

For all practical purposes, that means receive in the case of audible
communications or decode in the case of data communications.

And there are a ton of exceptions in addition to Law Enforcement. Most
people do not qualify under any exemption unless their job involves
communications services.

Basically, the ECPA makes everything illegal to intercept, then exempts
some services such as Business, Industrial, Public Safety, Ham, and some
others.

Joe M.

johnstark wrote:
> To rephrase this a bit, it's not illegal to receive it, it is however
> illegal to decode pagers, MDT's and so forth. It is illegal to monitor
> things like cordless phones even though they are in the clear. I'm still at
> a loss why the OP openly admits in a public forum
> to decoding this stuff, that's Federal Time! There are however provisions
> for law enforcement to be able to monitor these transmissions for
> investigations but that's the ONLY exception to the law.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "MCH" <mch@...>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:20 PM
> To: <BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT
>
>> That's not the FCC's view. In 1986 they passed the ECPA which made
>> Cellular illegal to receive. In 1994, they expanded the ECPA to include
>> Cordless, paging, STL, and some other frequency types.
>>
>> So, despite the fact they are transmitted over
>> public airwaves, they are not legal to receive.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Walter Jinright wrote:
>>>   I thought so, but I also worked with one of the local agencies for many
>>> years, I was a Major over Communications. When I showed our Chief of
>>> Communications (Over all County Radio Systems), his exact words were, "We
>>> put it out on the air, it becomes public information<snip>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10
03:33:00
>

Any politician will tell you "it's not illegal unless you get caught".



/\/\|k.e



From: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of MCH
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:24 PM
To: BCD396XT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT





Well, it doesn't say it's illegal to decode, either, if we are going to
pick nits. It says it's illegal to "intentionally intercept" it.

For all practical purposes, that means receive in the case of audible
communications or decode in the case of data communications.

And there are a ton of exceptions in addition to Law Enforcement. Most
people do not qualify under any exemption unless their job involves
communications services.

Basically, the ECPA makes everything illegal to intercept, then exempts
some services such as Business, Industrial, Public Safety, Ham, and some
others.

Joe M.

johnstark wrote:
> To rephrase this a bit, it's not illegal to receive it, it is however
> illegal to decode pagers, MDT's and so forth. It is illegal to monitor
> things like cordless phones even though they are in the clear. I'm still
at
> a loss why the OP openly admits in a public forum
> to decoding this stuff, that's Federal Time! There are however provisions
> for law enforcement to be able to monitor these transmissions for
> investigations but that's the ONLY exception to the law.
>
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> From: "MCH" <mch@... <mailto:mch%40nb.net> >
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> Subject: Re: [BCD396XT] Re: marine AIS and BCD396XT
>
>> That's not the FCC's view. In 1986 they passed the ECPA which made
>> Cellular illegal to receive. In 1994, they expanded the ECPA to include
>> Cordless, paging, STL, and some other frequency types.
>>
>> So, despite the fact they are transmitted over
>> public airwaves, they are not legal to receive.
>>
>> Joe M.
>>
>> Walter Jinright wrote:
>>> I thought so, but I also worked with one of the local agencies for many
>>> years, I was a Major over Communications. When I showed our Chief of
>>> Communications (Over all County Radio Systems), his exact words were,
"We
>>> put it out on the air, it becomes public information<snip>
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