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#59045 From: Robin Colleen Moore <robin@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Early Tudor Costume
robintmp
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Not only is _The Tudor Tailor_ a fascinating book, but the authors have since
put out two more books that might be of more help to the original poster--_The
King's Servants_ and _The Queen's Servants_, both of which cover early Tudor
period clothing (1485-1520) as worn by, well, servants to Their Majesties during
that time.  (Overall, the men's clothing runs a bit lower in terms of social
class than the women's, as while virtually all the ladies waiting on the queens
were gentlewomen if not actually noble, the same wasn't necessarily true of the
men; it's not at all hard, though, to figure out what a gentleman or nobleman
would have worn using the book.)   They're much shorter books than TTT, and
rather pricey (IIRC, my copy of _The Queen's Servants_ ran me around $42 on
Amazon), but IMO are very much worth it if you're interested in this particular
time period.  You can buy the books both on Amazon and at tudortailor.com; it
took my book about 5-6 weeks to get here.

Hope this helps,

Robin de la Pesterye


-----Original Message-----

From: Susanne Hibbert

Sent: Jun 1, 2012 11:12 PM

To: "Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com"

Subject: Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume



       My bad......that is the correct title. I've over forty-five years of
collecting costuming book in different languages.

Thanks,

Susana

________________________________

  From: Cynthia Ley <cley56@...>

To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Susanne Hibbert <thl.susana@...>

Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 2:02 PM

Subject: Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume



I may be disremembering the exact title, but I believe there is a book

out called "The Tudor Tailor" which covers the earlier Henrican stuff.

It got good reviews, as I recall.



Arlys

>

> Both of these sources are perfect for "early Tudor". Much simpler than

> later Tudor. I think a headdress is so important to carry off the

> impression....there are other headdresses besides a gable. A beginner

> might have problems with fitting. The patterns available are of little

> help, getting in some millinery time is useful. The Tudors Apprentice

> has references that are better than most and show how to manage the

> hair that keeps the gable in place.  You might get a look at that as a

> start.

> Susana

>

> ________________________________

> From: Isabella D'Angelo <isabelladangelo@...

> <mailto:isabelladangelo%40gmail.com>>

> To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:Authentic_SCA%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:26 AM

> Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume



> Hello!

>

> I would suggest the Period Pattern No. 51.

>

> http://stores.renstore.com/-strse-283/Early-Tudor-Patterns-for/Detail.bok

>

> However,t here are several other patterns out there that are easy to

> tailor or work well as is for the early Tudor dress.

>

> http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/index.html

>

> The website above should help you with documentation. She has provided

> a lot of illuminations and portraits from that era.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Isabella

>

> --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:Authentic_SCA%40yahoogroups.com>, "ssd0231" <sstoval3@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello all,

> > My mother has decided (finally) on a time period unfortunately its

> pretty narrow and not one I'm at all familiar with. Its 1480s-1510s,

> so basically Henry VII's rein. She likes the early style gable hood

> and dress style Elizabeth of York is portrayed in. Can anyone help me

> with documentation? Its not for a competition or anything but I want

> to get it right.

> >

> > Thanks, Sarah

> >

>



Coach Bob was right: you've got to get obsessed and stay obsessed.  You've got
to keep passing the open windows. -- John Irving, <i>The Hotel New Hampshire</i>

#59046 From: Heather English <theiadora@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nifty day-shade
theiadora
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Yes I have patterns for the bench as well.

Theia
--- On Fri, 6/1/12, karen_isaacson <kareni@...> wrote:

> From: karen_isaacson <kareni@...>
> Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Nifty day-shade
> To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 7:06       --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com,
> "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...> wrote
>
>
>
> Would your friend perhaps also have an idea where to get
> plans for that very comfortable bench under the shade?
>
>
>
> Eydís Gunnarsdóttir
>
> An Tir
>

#59047 From: Karen <karen_larsdatter@...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2012 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: use of applique in period banners
Karen_Larsda...
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Elizabeth asked:
> Does anyone know of a good source of information on the use of
> appliqué in period banners?

Sure -- check out
http://larsdatter.com/applique.htm
There aren't many appliquéd banners, but there are a few (as well as other
heraldic bits done as appliqué).

The modern type of resist-painted silk is not the same technique as was used on
western European painted banners, anyway. ;-)  See
http://destrier.net/astonhall/article_medieval_painted_flags.20070501.pdf for
more information on painted banners (as well as other techniques used on
medieval banners).

For that particular heraldry, I'd recommend doing each element as a separate
embroidered element (so you can get the details right without having to piece
together all those little waves) and then applying it to a solid-colored ground
(that is, of course, split between two backgrounds really, the yellow and the
blue) -- assuming, of course, that you have a few embroiderers who might be
willing to work together on this.


Karen Larsdatter
www.larsdatter.com

#59048 From: Catherine Olanich Raymond <cathy@...>
Date: Fri Jun 1, 2012 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Early Tudor Costume
cathyr19355
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On 06/01/2012 04:02 PM, Cynthia Ley wrote:
> I may be disremembering the exact title, but I believe there is a book
> out called "The Tudor Tailor" which covers the earlier Henrican stuff.
> It got good reviews, as I recall.

There's even more information in "The Queen's Servants," newly published
by the same people as "The Tudor Tailor."  It's pricey for the size (56
pages and an average price of about $35 USD) but I got to look through
it and it's packed with useful information, including a few pattern
sketches--including headdress sketches.

The cheapest source for "The Queen's Servants" that I know of is
Potboiler Press (Googling will get you the URL quickly).  Good luck!


--
Cathy Raymond
cathy@...
(610) 805-9542

"Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state."
--Thomas de Quincey

#59049 From: "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:52 am
Subject: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
wodeford
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As the SCA ages, RV camping has become more prevalent. Some folks have medical
needs or just plain shouldn't be sleeping on pallets in tents under adverse
conditions.

At the camping events I attend, motor vehicles of any kind are only allowed into
camp for unloading and unloading and should otherwise be kept in the designated
parking area. At larger events, there's usually an area designated for RVs to
pitch camp.

Before you go to the trouble/time/expense of upholstering the exterior of your
RV, what are the rules for RVs at the events you're likely to attend? I suspect
your time, skills and hobby money would be better spent on other things.

Two sen worth,
Saionji no Hana, West Kingdom

#59050 From: Susanne Hibbert <thl.susana@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:09 am
Subject: Re: Re: Early Tudor Costume
thl.susana
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Thank you for posting the new books!

Susana



________________________________
  From: Robin Colleen Moore <robin@...>
To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume


 
Not only is _The Tudor Tailor_ a fascinating book, but the authors have since
put out two more books that might be of more help to the original poster--_The
King's Servants_ and _The Queen's Servants_, both of which cover early Tudor
period clothing (1485-1520) as worn by, well, servants to Their Majesties during
that time.  (Overall, the men's clothing runs a bit lower in terms of social
class than the women's, as while virtually all the ladies waiting on the queens
were gentlewomen if not actually noble, the same wasn't necessarily true of the
men; it's not at all hard, though, to figure out what a gentleman or nobleman
would have worn using the book.)   They're much shorter books than TTT, and
rather pricey (IIRC, my copy of _The Queen's Servants_ ran me around $42 on
Amazon), but IMO are very much worth it if you're interested in this particular
time period.  You can buy the books both on Amazon and at tudortailor.com; it
took my book about 5-6 weeks
  to get here.

Hope this helps,

Robin de la Pesterye

-----Original Message-----

From: Susanne Hibbert

Sent: Jun 1, 2012 11:12 PM

To: "Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com"

Subject: Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume

My bad......that is the correct title. I've over forty-five years of collecting
costuming book in different languages.

Thanks,

Susana

________________________________

From: Cynthia Ley <cley56@...>

To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Susanne Hibbert <thl.susana@...>

Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 2:02 PM

Subject: Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume

I may be disremembering the exact title, but I believe there is a book

out called "The Tudor Tailor" which covers the earlier Henrican stuff.

It got good reviews, as I recall.

Arlys

>

> Both of these sources are perfect for "early Tudor". Much simpler than

> later Tudor. I think a headdress is so important to carry off the

> impression....there are other headdresses besides a gable. A beginner

> might have problems with fitting. The patterns available are of little

> help, getting in some millinery time is useful. The Tudors Apprentice

> has references that are better than most and show how to manage the

> hair that keeps the gable in place.  You might get a look at that as a

> start.

> Susana

>

> ________________________________

> From: Isabella D'Angelo <isabelladangelo@...

> <mailto:isabelladangelo%40gmail.com>>

> To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:Authentic_SCA%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:26 AM

> Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Early Tudor Costume

> Hello!

>

> I would suggest the Period Pattern No. 51.

>

> http://stores.renstore.com/-strse-283/Early-Tudor-Patterns-for/Detail.bok

>

> However,t here are several other patterns out there that are easy to

> tailor or work well as is for the early Tudor dress.

>

> http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/index.html

>

> The website above should help you with documentation. She has provided

> a lot of illuminations and portraits from that era.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Isabella

>

> --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:Authentic_SCA%40yahoogroups.com>, "ssd0231" <sstoval3@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello all,

> > My mother has decided (finally) on a time period unfortunately its

> pretty narrow and not one I'm at all familiar with. Its 1480s-1510s,

> so basically Henry VII's rein. She likes the early style gable hood

> and dress style Elizabeth of York is portrayed in. Can anyone help me

> with documentation? Its not for a competition or anything but I want

> to get it right.

> >

> > Thanks, Sarah

> >

>

Coach Bob was right: you've got to get obsessed and stay obsessed.  You've got
to keep passing the open windows. -- John Irving, <i>The Hotel New Hampshire</i>



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#59051 From: Kareina Talvi Tytär <kareina.sca@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:41 am
Subject: OT: any of you have the correct science background to analyze the Staffordshire Hoard?
kareinatt
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The below message was posted to an academic email list I am on--it
sounds like a fun job, but, sadly, I don't have the experience with
the correct equipment, so I thought I would check to see if any other
SCA folk do...

--Kareina
(apologies to those of you who will see this more than once, as I will
post it in a couple of places...)

From: Arch-Metals Group [ARCH-METALS@...] on behalf of
Susan La Niece [SLANIECE@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:55 PM
To: ARCH-METALS@...
Subject: 1 year post at the British Musem

We are currently recruiting for a Scientist to work within the
department of Conservation and Scientific Research. This post will
involve responsibility for analysis and research of both material in
the British Museum collection and the Anglo-Saxon Staffordshire Hoard
which forms part of the contract work being delivered by the British
Museum on behalf of the Staffordshire Hoard owners. The post is to
undertake scientific examination, analysis and X-radiography of
archaeological and museum materials for their identification,
provenance or technological investigation and to understand their
deterioration and conservation. Further to this, the post will involve
responsibility for the management, archiving and reporting of all data
as part of the contract research.

A strong and relevant science background with experience in a research
and/or analytical laboratory environment is essential as well as
experience in the application and use of a range of analytical
techniques including XRF. Also experience in some of the following:
SEM-EDX, specific gravity measurements, X-radiography, XRD, Raman or
FTIR spectroscopy, microscopy techniques.

The Museum is looking to appoint a candidate who, ideally, is able to
start as soon as possible.

Fixed Term Contract; 12 months in duration (Full time)
Salary: GBP 26,820 per annum


For further information or to apply for this role, please go to

    <URL: http://www.britishmuseum.org/about_us/jobs.aspx>

Closing date: 12 noon, Thursday 21st June 2012


Susan La Niece
Department of Conservation and Scientific Research
The British Museum
London WC1B 3DG
UK

slaniece@...

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#59052 From: JL Badgley <tatsushu@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:32 am
Subject: Re: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
tatsushu
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I am usually familiar with Pennsic rules, where trailers are accepted if
they are disguised. I've seen some nice houses done on trailers that make
me think it is doable, but you have to consider your materials.  I have a
dream of doing a house trailer at some point.  Since it doesn't have its
own engine, these trailers don't count as "motor" vehicles, so that may
fall outside of what you are considering.

It takes a lot of work, and it has almost always been a case of building a
new structure on a flat trailer rather than hiding an existing RV.  I also
don't know how many events it might be or not be feasible for.

-Ii
On Jun 2, 2012 8:52 PM, "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> As the SCA ages, RV camping has become more prevalent. Some folks have
> medical needs or just plain shouldn't be sleeping on pallets in tents under
> adverse conditions.
>
> At the camping events I attend, motor vehicles of any kind are only
> allowed into camp for unloading and unloading and should otherwise be kept
> in the designated parking area. At larger events, there's usually an area
> designated for RVs to pitch camp.
>
> Before you go to the trouble/time/expense of upholstering the exterior of
> your RV, what are the rules for RVs at the events you're likely to attend?
> I suspect your time, skills and hobby money would be better spent on other
> things.
>
> Two sen worth,
> Saionji no Hana, West Kingdom
>
>
>


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#59053 From: "karen_isaacson" <kareni@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: Nifty day-shade
karen_isaacson
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--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Heather English <theiadora@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes I have patterns for the bench as well.
>
> Theia


Another lady who lives in An Tir in the barony to the north and I would both be
interested in purchasing these plans if possible (and within range of our
purses).

Eydís Gunnarsdóttir
An Tir

#59054 From: Daniel Brizendine <norseceltbear@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 3:41 am
Subject: Paging any tent laurels lillies or anyone
norseceltbear
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Please contact me off list

--
*Zsigmond Szekely*
*Kingdom of Calontir*
*Barony of Three Rivers
*
Thor Odinson... you have betrayed the express command of your king. Through
your arrogance and stupidity, you've opened these peaceful realms and
innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! You are unworthy of
these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you are unworthy... of the
love of those you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the
name of my father and his father before me, I, Odin Allfather, cast you
out!


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#59055 From: "cheenya" <katrina@...>
Date: Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:00 pm
Subject: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
cheenya
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I will admit that I didn't read the entire original thread, so this may have
been mentioned, but in case it wasn't, there are two yahoo groups you may wish
to join to explore this idea.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vardoshavora/
and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pennsic_homes
They both have people who have done lots of research and who are happy to share
ideas and experience.

YIS
-katrina

#59056 From: "annakaiara" <gakaiaraan@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:02 pm
Subject: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
annakaiara
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Thanks, these look like fun.  I appreciate the direction. I think I may end up
simply packing a nice pavilion to set up with my Shire and wander back to the
parking lot for a night in comfort.

I wish I could turn my van into a gypsy wagon and drape something over the cab.
:)

But the RV is too big for that.  Not that I will be showing up at any events
with my big cloud anytime soon, very nearly the entire interior needs to be
gutted.  We bought it because the transmission alone is worth what we paid.  The
engine is good and the chasis is excellent.  But there are issues with the rest
of it such as: the bathroom needs IMO to be gutted and redone completely, the
entire cooking apparatus is a microwave and there are FIVE desks and no beds. 
This is a dream project and the interior is mine to imagine.

It is a huge rectangular shape on wheels, plain white and rather ugly but the
possibilities, ah, yes, the possibilities. :)

--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "cheenya" <katrina@...> wrote:
> ...two yahoo groups you may wish to join to explore this idea.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vardoshavora/
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pennsic_homes
>

#59057 From: Katherine Throckmorton <katherine.throckmorton@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2012 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
katherine_th...
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In that case, it might be better to focus on interior, rather than exterior
accuracy.  As other posters pointed out, its likely that you'd need to park
your RV in the parking lot, or in RV parking, so even if you made a cover
for it, the ambiance outside of the RV would be lacking.  But if you're
already looking at doing a gut-remodel, it might be worthwhile to do the
inside in as period a style as possible, so that once you go inside, you
seem to be inside a snug medieval house.  Sort of like how we often have
events at modern churches and schools, but do our best to decorate the
interiors to be less glaringly modern.

-Katherine


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#59058 From: "annakaiara" <gakaiaraan@...>
Date: Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
annakaiara
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OH, that is an awesome idea!  Constantinople, 1000AD, Rule of Basil II,
Byzantium.  I would need to figure out how to do this and still have the
interior so that hubby is happy with it too.  A challenge--neat!

Ann of Wellborn,called forgetful

--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Katherine Throckmorton
<katherine.throckmorton@...> wrote:
>
> In that case, it might be better to focus on interior, rather than
> exterior accuracy.... if you're already looking at doing a
> gut-remodel, it might be worthwhile to do the inside in as period
> a style as possible, so that once you go inside, you seem to be
> inside a snug medieval house.
>

#59059 From: "MITCHELL J BARTON" <rondoval@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
russianarabs
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Oh now that could be so much fun!  The one we use belongs to my brother so we
cant make those kind of changes but I will have to think of things that could be
done to make it more period inside that can be removed like bedding and window
coverings.  Thanks for the ideas
Ratiri in Atenveldt

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#59060 From: "annakaiara" <gakaiaraan@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:51 pm
Subject: On RV camping, was Re: Authenticity good-- so how to hide the RV?
annakaiara
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Hubby and I have been discussing and he wants to keep a large portion simply
open.  I think I could use a trunk of fabrics to drape inside to help with
period, I also think a lot of it will end up "rustic" which will fit right into
my own persona.  One of the cool things about Byzantine era is that they wore
their wealth more than lived with it.  Fabrics were everywhere, but the
furniture even in the Emperor's palaces was generally simple in design.  The
wealth showed more in the fabrics used in decorating so the simple trunk would
be more richly draped by the wealthy and more simply draped or not draped at all
by the average joe.

So just by hauling into the RV chairs and trunks like I'd put in a tent when
doing period, I'll get a quick transformation.

Ratiri, be sure to share what you find works well! :)

Ann of Wellborn, called forgetful


--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "MITCHELL J BARTON" <rondoval@...> wrote:
I will have to think of things that could be done to make it more period inside
that can be removed like bedding and window coverings.  Thanks for the ideas
> Ratiri in Atenveldt
>
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>

#59061 From: H D <hillofbees@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:40 am
Subject: Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online
hillofbees
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Dear
all,
 
I’m
pleased to announce that the knitted 16th century cap collection of
the Museum of
London is now online. The
73 caps, coifs, cap fragments, linings and earpieces have been newly
photographed, with captions containing contextual and technical information. All
the pieces will have their full captions in the next two weeks.
 
The
caps and their parts are of a large group of material excavated from sites
around London by
workmen in the early 20th century. They represent an insight into
everyday urban clothing and a high level of technical skill in their knitted,
fulled and napped construction. Caps of this style are in collections across
Europe and North America and are the focus of a
lot of research interest, so we are pleased to make a large group available to
the wider research community.
 
To
browse the caps, please go to the Collections
Online site and enter ‘cap’ in the Keyword field with the date range
1500-1600 in the search fields.
 
Many
thanks to all the researchers who have contributed to this project, especially
Jane Malcolm-Davies of The Tudor Tailor.
 
Do
please pass this on to anyone who may be interested, and feel free to contact me
if you have any questions.
 
With
best wishes,
 
Hilary

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#59062 From: Brad Moore <mamluk@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online
mamluk
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Thank you for posting this.  It's very exciting stuff!  I have cross posted it
with the German Ren Costuming Group, the Elizabethan Costuming Group, and the
Historic Knit Group, as well. 
 
Je Reste,
 
Nicolas

Brad Moore 

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a
merrier world."
- J.R.R. Tolkien

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#59063 From: "karen_isaacson" <kareni@...>
Date: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:39 am
Subject: Re: Nifty day-shade
karen_isaacson
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--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Heather English <theiadora@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes I have patterns for the bench as well.
>
> Theia

Would it be possible to post the patterns for all to see, or are they
commercial?

Eydís Gunnarsdóttir

An Tir

#59064 From: "theiadora@..." <theiadora@...>
Date: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:07 am
Subject: Re: Re: Nifty day-shade
theiadora
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I dug through my computer files and it seems that those were among the ones lost
in a drive failure. So i am having to remeasure it and recreate the directions.
But they are free to those that ask, and give me inspired by credit...
Im currently working on doing land for west Antir war, so might not get them
redone before then.
For those going, drop by the Vinlig/Danelaw encampment and I'll give you a tour.
(I might be next door with Camp Trouble) follow the laughter.

Theia.

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: karen_isaacson <kareni@...>
To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 02:39:49 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Nifty day-shade

--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Heather English <theiadora@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes I have patterns for the bench as well.
>
> Theia

Would it be possible to post the patterns for all to see, or are they
commercial?

Eydís Gunnarsdóttir

An Tir



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#59065 From: "Alasdair" <talmoor@...>
Date: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Nifty day-shade
talmoor
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That bench design is everywhere lately. I even saw a shortened version as a
personal chair at ursalmas. Carved to the 9'sidea and with wheels on the back to
tow it with you. Plan to make a couple myself here not to long from now.

Alasdair
Blatha An Oir



--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "karen_isaacson" <kareni@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Heather English <theiadora@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes I have patterns for the bench as well.
> >
> > Theia
>
>
> Another lady who lives in An Tir in the barony to the north and I would both
be interested in purchasing these plans if possible (and within range of our
purses).
>
> Eydís Gunnarsdóttir
> An Tir
>

#59066 From: "Scott Carledge" <Scat@...>
Date: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:00 pm
Subject: RE: Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online
thlcolmdubh
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How does one “go†to “Collections Online�

Colm

From: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of H D
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 7:40 AM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online





Dear
all,

I’m
pleased to announce that the knitted 16th century cap collection of
the Museum of
London is now online. The
73 caps, coifs, cap fragments, linings and earpieces have been newly
photographed, with captions containing contextual and technical information. All
the pieces will have their full captions in the next two weeks.

The
caps and their parts are of a large group of material excavated from sites
around London by
workmen in the early 20th century. They represent an insight into
everyday urban clothing and a high level of technical skill in their knitted,
fulled and napped construction. Caps of this style are in collections across
Europe and North America and are the focus of a
lot of research interest, so we are pleased to make a large group available to
the wider research community.

To
browse the caps, please go to the Collections
Online site and enter ‘cap’ in the Keyword field with the date range
1500-1600 in the search fields.

Many
thanks to all the researchers who have contributed to this project, especially
Jane Malcolm-Davies of The Tudor Tailor.

Do
please pass this on to anyone who may be interested, and feel free to contact me
if you have any questions.

With
best wishes,

Hilary

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#59067 From: "Asha" <jayzucat@...>
Date: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:01 pm
Subject: Sample Personas
jayzucat
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Greetings to the list!

   I am currently undertaking a "Sample Persona" project for the Gold Key office
of the COB. I request your help in this endeavor. All too often I have newbies
who ask me, "Soo..persona/name..how do I start?".  I then try to figure out
their interests, and go from there.  But in a world as wide, both in time frame
and continent, not to mention religion or class status, I feel I can never give
any newbie any accurate details. Hence where you, the glorious populace comes
into play! I am asking that you please offer info about your personas.  I.E. 
What you are. Perhaps an 11th century viking male.  What is your name?  What
clothing did you wear?  What were your interests (this is all in persona mind
you}.  This information will all be compiled into a large binder in which i
would present to our newbies. {Of course they would not be taking your exact
persona, but your persona research would help them to grow} Of course I request
that the information be as accurate as possible {and as much as you all rock, I
know it will be}.  Be as detailed  as you wish!  All credit will be given to the
information provider (unless you wish to remain anonymous, just let me know} 
Feel free to respond to my regular e-mail jayzucat@....  Thanks to you all
in advance!  Always in service to the newbies {and who ever else needs it)
-asha-

feel free to cross post

#59068 From: Corvus <felixcorvii@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:27 am
Subject: Re: Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online
felix_barbus...
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Here's a link~
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Collections-Research/Collections-online/SearchR\
esults.aspx?description=Cap&idNumber=&makerString=&dateMadeEarliest=1500&dateMad\
eLatest=1600&objectType=Both&include=Objects&newSearch=true

On Jun 20, 2012, at 12:00 PM, "Scott Carledge" <Scat@...> wrote:

> How does one “go†to “Collections Online�
>
> Colm
>
> From: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of H D
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 7:40 AM
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online
>
> Dear
> all,
>
> I’m
> pleased to announce that the knitted 16th century cap collection of
> the Museum of
> London is now online. The
> 73 caps, coifs, cap fragments, linings and earpieces have been newly
> photographed, with captions containing contextual and technical information.
All
> the pieces will have their full captions in the next two weeks.
>
> The
> caps and their parts are of a large group of material excavated from sites
> around London by
> workmen in the early 20th century. They represent an insight into
> everyday urban clothing and a high level of technical skill in their knitted,
> fulled and napped construction. Caps of this style are in collections across
> Europe and North America and are the focus of a
> lot of research interest, so we are pleased to make a large group available to
> the wider research community.
>
> To
> browse the caps, please go to the Collections
> Online site and enter ‘cap’ in the Keyword field with the date range
> 1500-1600 in the search fields.
>
> Many
> thanks to all the researchers who have contributed to this project, especially
> Jane Malcolm-Davies of The Tudor Tailor.
>
> Do
> please pass this on to anyone who may be interested, and feel free to contact
me
> if you have any questions.
>
> With
> best wishes,
>
> Hilary
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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#59069 From: Jamie Sue Bennett <jayzucat@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: Sample Personas
jayzucat
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Greetings to all,
  
  First of all, thank you so much to those who have already offered
their information to this project, you all are amazing.  Below is a
questionnaire that will help to better explain the information we are
looking for.  You are all amazing. Thanks so much!

    1}What is your persona's name?
    2}What time period is your persona from?
    3}What land/continent?
    4} What did your persona do on a day-to-day basis? His/her interests?
    5}What is her/his social standing?
    6}Family?
    7}what clothing did he/she wear and what materials where they made out of?

Deepest appreciation. ~asha~

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#59070 From: "LJonthebay" <wodeford@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Sample Personas
wodeford
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--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "Asha" <jayzucat@...> wrote:
>   I am currently undertaking a "Sample Persona" project for the Gold Key
office of the COB.

Dear Asha-hime,

For those of us not from your area, what does "COB" stand for?

Many thanks,

Saionji no Hana
West Kingdom

#59071 From: "Salli Weston, Scott Theisen" <vlad.petranella@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Sample Personas
westo006
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There is a section of the Armour Archive called "I want to be". It is
focuseed on armour but there is great info there for non armour things too:
http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=54cca0de8bdf4fd7dd\
8b7b6fb84129ee

Petranella

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Asha <jayzucat@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Greetings to the list!
>
> I am currently undertaking a "Sample Persona" project for the Gold Key
> office of the COB. I request your help in this endeavor. All too often I
> have newbies who ask me, "Soo..persona/name..how do I start?".feel free to
> cross post
>
>


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#59072 From: Dee Cadoret <kitaye@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sample Personas - Kaolin of Harrowgate Heath
kitaye
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On 21/06/2012 11:59 AM, Jamie Sue Bennett wrote:
>      1}What is your persona's name?
Kaðlín of Harrowgate Heathh, though through recent scribal error I and
also known as Kaolin of Harrowsheath.
>      2}What time period is your persona from?
I was born in 467 and am of course 45 years old.

>      3}What land/continent?
Born 467 on the Isle of Jurra. The Isle of Jurra is part of the inner
Hibrides island. Much of the population is made up of settlers
(Scandanavian, Scots, Irish, and Pict) as as well a few survivors from
passing trade ships.
>      4} What did your persona do on a day-to-day basis? His/her interests?

Born to a landholder, Kaðlín was raised to take over the position when
her mother died. She was taught the arts of women by her mother, and the
craft of men by her father. She found herself less and less interested
in taking over the household, preferring the freedom of the sea and
land, so at the age of 16 Kaðlín set out on her own.

She begged, borrowed, and worked her way across the islands, dressed as
a man, until she reached the Islands of the Dal Riata. From there she
managed to find a position on a vessel headed for the mainland. During
the crossing a storm blew the ship off course, coming ashore in the
western lands of the Britons of Northumbria.

In a new land with little to her name, Kaðlín kept the guise of a man
and found work in local settlements using the skills she had learned
from her parents. She learned the language of the people and adopted
their manners and clothing. In time she worked her way to a small
village where she set herself up as a merchant, a craftsman, joined the
local militia, and became accepted as a free member of society.

*Enjoys:* Woodcarving, sewing, nalbinding, tablet weaving, cooking,
baking, woodworking, embroidery, animal husbandry, archery, fighting.
>      5}What is her/his social standing?

Merchant/ craftsman
>      6}Family?
Father - Konáll of Jurra
Mother - Ǽsa Bjőrnsdőttir
>      7}what clothing did he/she wear and what materials where they made out
of?
The tunic style of her mother, loose, long sleeves, with extra gores
added to the lower portion to make a flared skirt. Loose Braes like her
father that tie around the hips. Shoes are basic leather bog style
shoes. Clothing is made from linen and wool depending on the season.
Basic clothing in unadorned except for different colour trim of lnen.
Adorned clothing includes embroidery around the neckline, cuffs, and
hem. The pattern are mostly cultural patterns from her homeland/
mother's land.

Her mother's people wore a small seax to indicate freeborn status. Her
father people work the golden torq and bracelet. Kaolin wears them both
as a blending of her parents cultures.

#59073 From: jeff gedney <gedney1@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sample Personas - Elias Gedney
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    1}What is your persona's name?

Elias Gedney

    2}What time period is your persona from?
1590's 

    3}What land/continent?
14 South Quay, Greater Yarmouth, Norfolk, East Anglia, England

    4} What did your persona do on a day-to-day basis? His/her interests?


Captain of a "coaster" or small local shipper, principally moving cargo (mainly
bales of Anglian worsteds and quite a LOT of salt herring) along the east coast
of England and the Low countries, with occasional forays into France to pick up
soap, salt and dyestuffs.
Ship is a 47 tonne Leeboard lugger of Dutch make purchased from the town as
salvage after it went badly aground in 1590 on the sandy shoals in the south of
the harbor. (the town was raising money to dredge the harbor, so they thought it
just)


Personally Elias enjoys Fairs, watching and wagering on wrestling and bear
baiting, and some Archery as every patriotic Englishman ought. 
... and making money off the Scots who come every October/November for the
Yarmouth Herring Fair. 
Also enjoys drinking and reminiscing with other veterans of Gravelines from
Seymour's squadron from the Spanish Armada fight.   

    5}What is her/his social standing?
Freeman of the town, one of the "town fathers" and have served two terms in the
Town council. 
Squarely middle class. was somewhat over leveraged and owing money, but married
into enough money to put the debt collectors behind him. 
Still works with them to finance his own occasional ventures and has a good
reputation, but most of his business is per contract. 

    6}Family?
Second son in a family of Liveried Drapers in Norwich, married late in life to a
Norse woman, daughter of a factor and business contact in the "Steelyard"  
Several daughters in several foreign ports from a dissolute youth working as a
factor for Father's Wool business. 
Probably the reason that he is  no longer working for my Father. This was long
before he started his own business as a Coasterman.  

    7}what clothing did he/she wear and what materials where they made out of?
ashore, Doublets and Venetians and linen shirts and other Middle Class
Elizabethan clothing. 
a sea, Canvas doublets linen shirts, and canvas slops. Tightly woven Worsted
cloak against the weather.

Capt Elias

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#59074 From: lilinah@...
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: Museum of London Tudor knitted caps available online
urtatim_alqu...
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>How does one “go†to “Collections Online�
>
>Colm

Alternately, if you are not searching just for those knit caps, you can search
from the front page of the site:
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/
Click on the "Search Collections On-line" button and type what you're looking
for into the search box in upper right hand corner of the page.

Or, alternately, click on "Site Map" at the bottom of the page. Then on the Site
Map Page, click on "Collections On-line", which is in the third Red box down on
the left.

Either of these will allow you to look for things other than those knit caps.

Urtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM)
the persona formerly known as Anahita

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